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tv   The Day  Deutsche Welle  February 8, 2023 6:02am-6:31am CET

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ah, on it this 2nd night since the devastating earthquake in turkey and syria, the death toll have surpassed 6000 against the dark and freezing cold, they search for survivors rescue teams and equip bitter arriving every hour. but in syria. they can only hope for help. we understand that the quake took out the few border crossings that somehow survived at 10 years of civil war. a crisis of mother nature on top of a crisis made by man. i broke off in berlin. this is the day, ah, the situation was so intense, it felt like judgment day,
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although it's cold. and destruction is severe, gentle comes though every 5 minutes we burned the bodies of 4 or 5 people who died in the earthquake. this will take many hours and days. many hospitals can't take anymore patience, really lands food, water. we fled with just her clothes, look at us. we have no shoes. that we need, heavy equipment, ambulances, and fire fighting vehicles. we don't have heavy machinery to conduct rescue operations. we believe that live kids with faith field in the time clock. also coming up a state of the art facility in the u. s. the city of atlanta is supposed to help police do their jobs better. will it police have been reformed for years and decades? and you know that, that the police department in memphis that killed tyree nichols had adopted a bunch of, you know, these popular reforms were living the reform. and it's,
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it's not working for the 2 hour viewers watching on tv as to the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day at a race against time to save lives. rescue workers along the border between turkey and syria. are spending their 2nd night searching for survivors of the strongest earthquakes to hit in more than a century. more than 7000 people are now confirmed dead and it is feared that thousands more are buried in the rubble scenes of devastation in some towns in southern turkey. as far as the i can see, and across the border and syria, eye witnesses say, what was left standing after 10 years of civil war was brought crashing down. in a matter of seconds by the tremors, the aftermath of the quake is quickly becoming a tale of 2 countries. some 16000 rescue workers for round the world are now on their way to turkey. yes, turkey not serious. even if the border crossing into syria was not damaged,
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an attempt to bring people and equip it into rebel held areas would be dangerous and best. people turning up in drugs to help hundreds of wall entails or to stumble apples, trying to get to southern turkey with a devastating earthquake have killed thousands of people. countries around the world have dispatched rescue teams equipment as well as humanitarian 8 among them, mexico, indian, and israel. our goal is to save life and we believe that life could be saved steel in this time slot. the conditions and the circumstances are difficult. the weather is cold and the destruction is severe. others like new zealand and australia have pledged support. the condolences from
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the people of new zealand to those and i, turkey and in syria. we, we know little bit about earthquakes and new zealand and the significant effect with it can have on people. so our hearts are with him on the zealand will also be contributing to the international effort. some international rescue teams have already started to arrive. the task ahead of them is daunting. rescue workers and turkey have been digging through the night to find survivors with chicken chicken and giggling. an effort made no easier by the biting cold and rain. workers of rushing to find as many people as possible as it has already been a day since the initial earthquake and time may be running out for many who lie beneath the debris. either one of russia is
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a key supporter of syria in the regime of boucher allison will. the russian military allow people in aid to enter the country from turkey. can the international community expect safe passage? he w news asked germany's foreign minister about that. i'm a lena bear book, dragon. allah, lawton, why all international actors, including russia, you should use their influence on the syrian regime to ensure that humanitarian aid can get there, and that there are no additional hurdles. over more now i'm joined by kristin hill berg. she is the syria analyst with the mercantile institute. she's also a familiar face to our viewers. you may remember christa was the 1st western journalist great of the credit nation by damascus. it's good to see you again. we've talked many times. we've talked many times about the, the, the war in syria. now we're talking about a, a natural disaster the, an unprecedented earthquake to earthquakes. we know that getting rescue teams and equipment into northern syria requires safe passage through a very,
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very small area from turkey. it also requires assistance and cooperation from the russians and from the syrian military. how plausible, how widely is that? well the natural entry point to reach the province of it lip is the border crossing of bob and hollow, which is the only cross border checkpoint that allows humanitarian 8 without permission of damascus. this cross border 8 had just been renewed at the beginning of january. it from the by the security council with the allowance of russia. so this would be the entry point. the problem is that this border crossing was closed on monday. so no 8 has reached nathan celia sofa, not even the usual human interior. 8 that more than 4000000 people inside it live are depending on the other checkpoint that needs to be opened. is bob salami further north? this check point was closed by
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a veto of russia in the security council in the summer of 2020. if you open these 2 checkpoints, and if russia allowed a big international 8 reaching these areas that really the big that the heavy machinery and all that, what is needed and it could be, could reach the people inside. and based on what we've seen in the past, do you see russia standing in the way? i mean, basically, as i understand it, at least one of these crossings, it was damaged by the quake, but it could be repaired, it could be made passable. if that's the case, it was this week, is russia going to say ok, you can come through safely. you don't need the allowance of russia unique turkey to open this checkpoint again, it was closed yesterday to hinder syrian and injured people to reach target hospitals. so it's turkey who has to re open this checkpoint. it is open for
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syrians who have residents permits within turkey. which includes a lot of members of n g o z who can pass back and forth, but it is close to all of you, 2 minutes here in a delivery. so this is the problem. this has nothing to do with russia. we don't need russia here. we only need to a kid to, we open up how we need to russia to reopen by the salami, which goes to the north to kill us and to get the antenna, which is the huge international hop for 8 that goes to syria over 10 years. now, this creek is a crisis within a crisis for northern syria. talk to me, christian about the living conditions in it live province and how dire they were before this quake struck. you know, this earthquake really hit the people that had already suffered the most from more than 10 years of war in syria, there are more than 2000000 internally displaced people who had flat the bomb being
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off the sand regime and the russian air force during the last few years from their home countries from their home cities around damascus, around toms, they had seeking refuge close to the border to turkey, which was now the area that was most affected by the effect. these people state is huge. camps along the border, intense without heating, without the ability to work without medical care, the situation was really dramatic. even before this week. they were seeking shelter as well in very cheap and primitive refugees helped us. they all collapsed over them. they very much rely on the white helmets, which is the sewer and civil defense that is now trying to pull the people from under the rubble with their hands on with whatever they have. and they lack the material. they are quite experienced in doing this because we have seen a lot of attacks by russia and by suitor this in the gene. but in this dimension
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they have, they are not been, they are not able to deal with this disaster. so it's the same people who are already hit before they are now suffering the most in. what do you see in terms of geopolitical tremors, resulting from the wake of this earthquake and term rebel controlled it look, do you see a move by people who were still there to all migrate into turkey? do you see turkey being willing to accept them? will it be able to do you see the assad regime of seeing this as an opportunity to, to attack and make a final attack on the rebel held province and finally destroyed? i think that the assignment regime will try to use this natural disaster to try to lift international sanctions. western sanctions is not international sanctions. they will try to normalize their relations. we had here already the cause for lifting sanctions. but these sanctions are not targeting the sea and people they
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are targeting several 100 persons and organizations that are close to the regime and that have some responsibility for the crimes committed within syria. so this is not the moment to list sanctions. it's not the moment to normalize with the regime . i think what is very important to you to understand is that we can reach the people in need inside syria, by using the already existing channels that are there. we have international organizations like care, like safe the children, like the student, american medical society who work with local partners on the ground. so this is the way to deliver it into sera right now. it's not the c and machine should coordinate this. it's not the international community should open up now with the us hydrogen, because we know that for more than 10 years the us has him, uses the humanitarian aid for his own grip on power by delivering this 8 only to loyalists and supporters and not to the people a neat so this is important to understand. we can reach the people for international organizations who have their contacts already on the grant. not
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normalizing and reaching out to the c, v. 3 analysts grouping holberg excellent analysis of the situation to in helping people to understand the geopolitical or dimensions to this natural disaster. kristen, thank you. ah, the ral, between washington dc and beijing, over the chinese spine. balloon some call it balloon gait. as it relations between the 2 countries into a tail spent the balloon and spent 5 days crossing the united states before it was shot down off the coast of south carolina. near myrtle beach by a u. s. air force jet. now ahead of the balloon incident. china had been attempting to improve ties with the u. s. u s. navy has retrieved some of the wreckage of the balloon from the ocean off the coast of south carolina. beijing says however,
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it wants it's balloon back. that washington says it plans to have it examined by the secret service and predictably, the route between washington, a beijing over the balloon has spilled over into domestic politics in the u. s. capital take a las i applaud president biden for his leadership. i applaud that he listened to the military and national security experts, and i think as we go forward in time, everyone's going to see what he did was the right thing. we hope our republican colleagues will avoid the politics. a balloon flies over the united states, collecting data over every military base and american. the president just sits by says he gave the order on wednesday to shoot it down, but it didn't get shot down on saturday. did he send it through the mail service? i'm doing now by kelly rico. she's a senior fellow at the simpson center think tank where she is an expert on u. s. foreign and defense policy. it's good to have you on the program. so let me
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get your grade on relations between the us and china. now post shooting down of this balloon. yes. well, thank you for having me. this is certainly a very unfortunate incident, particularly the timing as it happened right before secondary blinking was to travel to beijing board discussions that would have hopefully, hopefully helped to calm down sort of spiraling tensions between in the united states and china. that's obviously not happening now. the trips been canceled, and i think there is a real danger that this incident will crystallize for many people. ah, the threat that china for the pose is and we'll use this a band as were, are another reason to sort of adopt a much more hawkish approach. senator schumer says that president biden is looking at other actions that either he could take after shooting down this ballooned.
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what were those actions been? yes, it's hard to imagine what they would be. quite frankly, i, you know, i, i would imagine they're probably not military actions as much as they might be. some kind of, you know, financial or economic sanctions or some, something of that type. i think the real danger here is overreaction. of course, what china did is outrageous and clearly the united states needed to respond and i think shooting the balloon down was the appropriate thing to do. but these kinds of incidents are likely to happen when you are competing against another great power. and that's explicitly your approach is, you know, what we call here in washington. great par competition. early in the old war, we saw these kinds of incidents happen. i'm, you know, for example, the, you to plane that was shot down over the soviet union. and one of the dangers i think for you asked china relations today is that we're in an early period in the relationship from the competition. and that we don't really have
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a lot of rules of the road and the kinds of communication between the capitals to help to really stabilize relations. do we need something like a hotline between a busy and washington? and i know this is a, it's not really in comparable to the soviet union in the u. s. on, because we're talking about the world's 2 largest economies. now that are intertwined with each other at the same time, there are 2 military powers that appear to be headed towards a possible conflict. yes, i think that's absolutely the case. i, you know, we need better communications more regular communications. and i think we also need what is called confidence building measures and you know, some type of high level discussions where we actually talk about the things that we are going to consider appropriate military activities. and those that are not and will kind of limits to place sort of things that we would want or mutually agree would be things that we don't want either party to dale just to try to stabilize
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this because there is a real danger that you know, either an accident or some kind of, you know, inadvertent escalation, like bess could lead to a really serious crisis and spiral, spiral very quickly out of control in terms of china's motivation for sending a balloon over the united states. be, why would it do that? you pointed out on twitter that this bears a resemblance to russia's tactic of trying to gain air superiority over ukraine by using relatively inexpensive methods such as drums and missiles. do you think beijing is trying the same tactic? you? yes, so i think one of the things has been so lost in this conversation is to me that one of the warnings of this incident and that the united states, we tend to focus on trying to control the aerospace between about 15000 feet and 60000 feet where high and fighters and bombers operate in using, you know, traditional aircraft, their pilot. it that way. what we see here is sort of similar to the way rushes
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using the loitering, munitions, and missiles and that kind of going around if you will, out flanking the sort of blue skies that, that air space i talked about. and using the really high altitude air space to actually transit and perhaps not be detected, it's all much harder to tax. and even if they are detected, then you know, in order they're engaging our radars. in the cost exchange ratio was really favorable for a balloon compared to an air defense pencil aren't air to air missile like the one that we used to shoot this down very good port to make it into. as we saw this past week, if you do shoot it down over land, you know, you could have people on the ground, kelly rico from the steps in the center. we appreciate your time and your excellent analysis life. thank. thanks very nice. ah. last week, tyree nichols was buried in memphis,
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tennessee. he died 3 days after being beaten by 5 police officers during a traffic stop his death. is it trigger debate over what to do about police brutality in america? we want to go through some numbers for you since 2015 on duty. police officers have shot and killed 8166 people that's according to a report by the washington post. now last year, 1096 people were shot and killed by officers who were on duty. again, that's according to the washing posted. that is the highest number on record. and already this year there have been at least $79.00. they don't police shootings, not this data does not cover deaths in police custody or fatal shootings by off duty officers. and it is against this background that protesters are opposing a new state of the art police training center that is being built in atlanta,
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georgia. bert's eye view of what was until a few weeks ago, a community park activists opposing development of a new atlanta police and fire training facility occupied the site. this is the entry of the campsite for the protesters are off the protesters or what's left of it doesn't look too good. totally mangled. are probably all right there. and you see it's completely deserted because the purchases got really roughed up a few times. she by police bulldozers under police protection, came in and tore the place apart. protesters had to leave in a hurry, leaving a mess behind. local residents, including jenna novick, are now trying to clean up. there's nobody there. i think that they're scared and i think they're regrouping maybe in other ways in different places, in their sympathy for those opposing the new facility. i don't think that building a mock city and,
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and having police dressed in military uniforms. i mean that's basically what they look like ah, with military style weapons. i mean that says to me, a bunch of things militarization, but also policing residents that don't need to be police in the modern high end training facilities urgently needed, according to the atlanta police association. a non profit organization promoting law enforcement claims. the center will completely reform police training. we met with mike her, her skin, one of the organizers of what he claims is a growing movement against the so called cup city that sort of coming back to the campsite and the surrounding woods is not easy for hated. he shows us where venezuela, born activist estie, bronman will priced it on nicknamed torch was shot dead when police rate at the protest. the warranties claim toward shot at police 1st injuring one officer,
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an independent autopsy states that tort was shot, 13 times for shaheen rana, another protest organizer. this comes as no surprise. these are exactly the kind of things we were afraid would happen. the escalation of violence by the police for activists like shaheen and mika, the death of tort. and tyrene nichols and memphis tennessee market turning point. not just in their fight against the training for some of the but against policing as a whole. police have been reformed for years and decades and you know that the police department in memphis that killed tyrene nichols had adopted a bunch of, you know, these popular reforms were living the reforms and it's, it's not working to keep people safe. that is why he says the protest movement is determined to ensure a cup city will never be billed. however, the city of atlanta and says nothing will stop the project. joining me now is chuck wexler,
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he's in washington. he's executive director of the police research for that organization to improve police work. mister works, it's good to have you where there's, let's take the situation there in atlanta. what's to say that this new complex is not all about making the police force more professional? well, you know, i don't know exactly know what the facility i will teach. i can tell you that american police training is outdated ah, antiquated, and not keeping up with what we needed to do. so i think we need to really rethink police training. it is done on that sheet. we should be making a major investment unless we train police differently. we can expect different results. one thing you would change the way police are trained.
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well, i think you know, like what we're doing now de escalation training. the numbers that you presented from the washington post were very familiar with that. a 1000 of those officer involved shooting 60 percent and ball guns. that 60400 pers present situations that don't involve guns in america, we have 400000000 guns. guns are part of our, you know, history. so those situations with guns of very hard to, for police officers to not figure, not use some kind of, you know, force. it's the other 400 that don't involve guns in and other countries. we've learned that it's possible with the right training the right thinking and then to get rid of the outdated thinking to diffuse the escalade, so that both the person you're dealing with than the police officer or both safe. we have, that's called integrating communication, sussman and tactics. it's being implemented in police departments. it's been
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evaluated in peer review studies to reduce overall use of course. so that that's going to require an investment. mr. regular. unfortunately, we are out of time, but please come back and talk with us again. we have more time because i am sure that we will need to talk about this again and again. thank you. thank you. with a day's almost done, the conversation continues online to find us on twitter. either d w news, you can follow me on twitter at rent. gov tv, every member of whatever happens between now and then. tomorrow is another dick will see that ah
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