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tv   Made in Germany  Deutsche Welle  February 8, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm CET

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excess, of course ukraine will probably dominate the german chancellor, of course, was under a lot of pressure, wasn't here head of his decision to deliver german leopard tanks to ukraine. has this wave of criticism subsidized now? i mean, especially a sorry subsided now, especially given, but we've just heard that more tags will be, will be delivered to, to ukraine. is interesting, isn't it all i've sold? did his typical all i've shots thing he kept quiet for weeks and was working to forge a coalition of willing partners that wanted to send tanks to ukraine. but he wouldn't comment on their steel until he had all the specific details. and so he received a lot of criticism because he left people wondering, will he give the green light to countries sending the leper to tanks, those modern tanks that ukraine says in need so desperately on the ground to counter that offensive that everybody is expecting from russia or will he not do
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that? and then eventually when he had forced this coalition, he did. and then germany became the very 1st country to actually make a very specific concrete announcement of sending 14 of such modern leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. others have said that they will also follow suit, but they have yet to spell out the details to say when those tanks will arrive, germany has in the meantime, started training as well. so germany is suddenly in the lead again and the criticism. yes it has. it sided and also a barrister stories. the new german defense minister traveled to ukraine this week and had even more in his suit case for ukraine and announced that germany has also given the green light to up to a 178. a slightly less modern, but still very useful leopard one tanks that ukraine could get hold of m i the beginning of next year. so the 1st such tanks will go to ukraine within the next few months. forest astoria said, and that is, of course, also changing the narrative that germany is suddenly becoming the one country that
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is delivering, and others now have to also put their money where their mouth was and follow suit. yeah, i wanted to ask you about that. changing the narrative because the delay that some people described as dithering others, other people were sort of saying, well it's, it's a thoughtful process because this is in a tank delivery is a big thing for germany. and is that something that is now changing because of the fact that as you say, germany does seem to be stepping up, it really does seem to be delivering. but this is image that shots had of, of sort of being terribly careful and, and did the re, you know, might that take a longer time to, to sort of, to, to change i think what happened was very poor political communication of germany strategies on the one hand olaf shots is not i tried to describe that earlier is not the kind of person who will comment on things that he's not a 100 percent sure of. if he is working on something,
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he will present the results. he won't comment on the process. and that is of course, very tricky in a situation where many people are faced with a lot of unknowns and they need, they need ideas, they need to hear visions and will have shorts. a didn't deliver those when he didn't feel that was necessary. then he had a defense minister in the job who was also not a very good political coming or communicate. so she was chosen as defense, minister before rushes aggression against ukraine and went in into this full scale mode. and this is also something where she didn't help transmit germany's ideas, germany's military strategy. now that has been changed. birth to stories is the new man in the job. and many people are saying, even from the opposition, that he's making a very good impression. he knows the vocabulary, he knows the troops, he likes the military. he actually understands of the differences between all the weapons models. so in terms of communication, a lot has changed, but also,
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and you mustn't neglect that. there is a very, a big factor when it comes to domestic policies. the issue of weapons deliveries to ukraine has been very contested here in germany and especially with all of shows his own party, the social democrats. for years, they believed that they had to build a stronger europe together with russia that was completely thrown overboard. this idea that that was possible on the 24th of february, last year when russia invaded ukraine. so the s b d, the. so to democrats, the chancellor parties having to reinvent itself, and there are still a lot of people here who come from the more traditional and the peace movement within and some of the, the, the, the, well, the, the older generations who believed that russia needs to be a strong partner who really just want to get back to the negotiating table. and that is of course, also something that all of shows has to recognise. and by the way,
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it's not just the speed is also a very big part of the general population, which i was just about to ask. i mean, there's a very strong still anti war sense in the german population, very against getting involved in any, any things that are militaristic, how does the german public feel about a, the german chancellor's performance in the direction that he's, he's taking the country and in terms of a sort of involvement in ukraine. in general, the general population support at chancellor, when it comes to his overall approach, that of course, you train must be helped and that germany must stand by ukraine side and that everything must be done so that this infringement days, terrible violation of international law by russia cannot be tolerated because of course, it will also have immediate implications here in germany. berlin is not very far
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away from keith. so this is something where you really need to draw the line for vladimir putin. this is a message that will, are, shots, has been sending to the german population and people do understand and they are willing, what it, what they're not willing to accept. some people is that you do need weapons to defend yourself and to keep peace. this is something that many germans did away with after the end of the 2nd world war and they thought, ok, this is the end. this was the last brutal war. no more wars. we will have to negotiate everything at the diplomatic tables. and this is something where now, especially the green party, has had a tremendous transformation of a recent decades where they also came from the peace movement. but they acknowledged that sometimes you just really need to show that you are strong as well. and that are in an international context, can best be demonstrated if you've got a functioning military that can then confront the aggressor. so that the aggressor stops. but there are a couple of people still here who say, no,
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we need to stop. and the most important thing is that people get back to the negotiating table, but the military experts, security analysts, they all agree at that would essentially mean that ukraine would have to give up some of their territories. ok, now of course things aren't made easier for the german chancellor because of the fact that he governs as part of a 3 party coalition, doesn't he? and in recent weeks, there's been a lot of criticism about the co peroration within that color coalition. can you give us a sense what the current state of affairs is there? well, when you talk about affairs, let me just say it's not a marriage of love still not. and it never was. it is something where for the very 1st time, germans had to form a coalition of 3 parties instead of 2 from different political fields. and so they set out to be this coalition of progress. they wanted to modernize the country
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and implement some more liberal policies here, but then of course, 3 months into their jobs. the 24th of february changed everything last year and they had to completely go into action mode into emergency mode. they had to find compromises. and, and when you talk about support for ukraine, they're all on the same page, essentially in that ukraine needs to be supported. there are a lot of differences when it comes to just how many weapons and how fast those should be delivered to ukraine. as i just said. the social democrats are in a, in crisis mode essentially. and that, that trying to reinvent themselves, they're writing their new foreign policy paper as we speak. and they're trying to discuss that at the end of the year at the big party convention. but the f, d p, the smaller party and the greens and the other 2 coalition partners, they've always try to push the s p d to go further and sent more weapons more quickly. so that is one big debate that
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they're having. and then there are a couple of domestic issues as well, where they have different differences because the m, the fight against the climate crisis is something that this government also wants to push forward. and there are completely different ideas when you ask members of the s f d p or the greens em how to fight the climate crisis, whether with new technologies only or with and also incentives so that people reduce mobility. for example. all right, nina, i, we're going to stop there because all our fillets is about to start addressing the german fun. well president and the colleague and i'm colleague, president, i'm colleagues ladies and gentlemen shall kinda bid out knocking, knocking images in the news. have been reaching us and of since monday morning from the earthquake region in turkey and syria. i am very grateful to the president for the words that she has just found. and i believe i speak for us all when i say that
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we are shocked in the face of the many deceased and injured. we are shocked in the face of so much suffering and destruction. oh, hearts and thoughts are with the relatives who have lost their loved ones, the injured and those who are standing in front of the rebels of their homes and their existence. the federal government has immediately and promised support to the turkish government. i spoke on the telephone with president arden on yesterday. search and rescue teams and technical experts are already on site or are about to fly. their humanitarian aid is also provided and we are in close contact with the united nations in order to bring humanitarian aid to the earthquake region in syria as well worth the suffering is a menace. once again, we see 100 vital border crossing axis is for which we had
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a stood in for many years. and here in germany as well, and we experience a wave of empathy compassion and help. i am very grateful to our citizens for that it's, i can of do the boys of the live in that way. they demonstrate how closely our society is linked to the citizens here in germany, who have relatives and friends over there in the affected regions. i am also grateful to our friends and partners in the region. the recent phone call between the president and the turkish president of state, underlines clearly that in the face of a disaster like this, we have to get closer and are from your child support. libya polygonal, colleen dear colleagues, is a dance under a disaster of
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a different kind. a human made a man made disaster is what ukraine has been experience and for almost a year. it will be a year and only a few days for the people in ukraine. it means that for 12 disastrous months, they have been long suffering fear in the face of russian attacks. they had to mourn their loved ones and fear for their own lives. thousands of men, women, and children already how fallen victim to the russian war, millions of ukrainians are fleeing the country. they are trying to get away from bombs and destruction. 4000000 have found refugee in the european union. it is the largest wave of migration on our continent since the end of the 2nd world war golden ukraine under attack, it's brave citizens are where our hearts are,
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and we stand in firm solidarity with them. with with more than 12000000 euros, germany alone has offered support to ukraine and its citizens in the past year. and this important support will continue for this year. steve, we help in reconstruction, reconstructing destroyed cities and infrastructure. we stabilize the ukrainian budget, help the ukranian industry and offer a humanitarian aid and when it's and when it comes to the supply with weapons and ammunition, we are at the forefront in continental europe, from the very 1st day of the war. one thing has been true lea cohesion within our alliance is our highest good. and this is at asian as something that we foster in preparing decisions behind closed doors and then communicate them
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as joe biden. and myself have done in the face of the recent decision to supply ukraine with battle tanks. with this lawson legend gigs shoddid, the son of michal verbatim. what does damage to our closed ranks is a public competition in offer. ring fighter jack and bondage plains tanks criticize and partners and allies on an open stage does harm to that. and germany will not play any part in this. the new, the disneyland leaders, because any kind of dissonance, any kind of speculation to online interests serve as hooting and whose propaganda as shop german chancellor. it is my responsibility to avert damage from the german people. and that leads to 3 clear principles that have been guidance,
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our actions since the war broke out. firstly. and we will not allow that. i country damage simply invades and takes over our territories of another country. and in doing so, shakes the order of peace in europe distribute. this is why we support ukraine in defending its sovereignty and its territorial integrity against russia's war on aggression. as long as it takes new sanctions against russia will be continued in the european union and even in hands to serve as a clear signal to president putin, that he will not be successful with his imperialistic schemes. but secondly, unit title, we will not make any decision that turns nato into a party in this war. it is not nato in war against russia. russia has attacked
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ukraine, and the majority of the world population has found clear words and against this, which is, it is up to russia to end this war, the earlier, the better for ukraine, for russia and the entire world. gibbs and it's even begun. i hootin will not achieve his goals and not on the battlefield, and not my dictated but he's, this is clear after one year of this war. thirdly, what we're doing. everything we do, we do in a closed corporation and agreement with our partners and allies. it has been the case for all the important decisions that we have made of the past 12 months. and this is what it will be like in the future. that'll be it. be supply with how with ers or m miss hall defense systems to ukraine,
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or the delivery of our tanks and now our middle tank. before we took any steps, we closely aligned our actions with the united states, friends, the u. k. and others deductible from the beginning, we also considered logistics. we train ukrainian soldiers here in germany, in card a nation with our allies and, and all that. we keep a clear head which is needed in order to come to a balanced decision in this situation. the citizens of our country can trust us in that, and this is what i stand for with my word losing a little business the you, you, especially your career pin councils starting tomorrow, will be used in order to align opposition even closer. shall michelle and ursula found elaine will can give you a report for the diff,
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the conversations they had last week with the ukranian president. this direct exchange with president zalinski is very important for all of us and we will continue it in an intensified manner. the european council will also be used to underlying the promise that the european council gave the ukrainians last year ukraine as a part of europe. the future is in the european union, and this is a promise that we stand by losing coverage loss. dierdre holly, gwen, good when it comes to alignment amongst partners. this also entails our advancement in fields that sometimes have given rise to tension within the european union. a geopolitical european union has to overcome this disagreement. and then even in the
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multi multi polar world of the 21st century, it will be a union with the power to design. i am talking about migration and competitiveness here. those 2 topics will be raised in the european council tomorrow. it has been nearly a year that the a location can regime and belarus has instrumentalist, political prisoners, in order to exert pressure on europe as well. to put some things have changed in the migration policy in germany and in europe, and also for the war refugees from ukraine. we have activated the directive on temporary protection and we did so in a uniform manner. this gave way to justice, but it has made it possible for ukrainian refugees to work on the european union to earn money. and we have created several 1000 social security
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jobs for ukrainians. here in germany, funded by the robinson, his pled said many more and have found partial employment to learn german or receive vocational training more than 1000000 ukrainians have arrived in germany line for our cities and municipalities. that means that our accommodation had to be organized. welcome classes, jobs and support measures had to be taken. i did indeed, i also would like to thank all of those who help in this task. all the voluntary worker is non profit organizations. well coming refugees. those who have just decided to roll up their sleeves and help them with water. this is a sign of humanity. and from the very bottom of my heart, i would like to thank you and i would like to add something. we will not leave you alone. i welcome it,
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that the federal government and all those in charge and the municipalities and regions will meet up. and a summit by the history of the federal government has supported municipalities in registering refugees. and as before, the federal government will support the municipalities with billions, in order to put them in a position to take good care of those who are arriving. linda or in other countries in the european union, there is a huge willingness to help. and it is this common spirit that will be the basis of the european council to morrow when we discuss the support of ukrainian refugees. with many of my colleagues, i have already held intense discussions. after years of a standstill now progression is possible in european asylum policy. and this is a merit of the french,
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the chic and the current swedish presidency. thoughts of the guy with the agreement on your doc and the screening regulation. years of blockade could be overcome. and i am in favor of negotiating it with the european parliament at top speed because we need a clear situation when it comes to who comes to europe and why? because this is the very basis of any kind of reform of our asylum system. the 2nd element is an effective control of our external borders. also, with the help of frantic ourself underlie and already has made important proposals in light of the european council tomorrow, such as a border guards with our neighboring states in the european union. and it was the right thing to do to make sure the, the corporation between the european union and turkey in the realm of refugees is continued. but now we need the u. member states mostly in about 2 years because
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they need our support to protect their external borders. but also other nations have to accept asylum seekers on a voluntary basis. and here we use the voluntary mechanism of solidarity in the u. s. deal here. we help the external states of the u. n. to help them in registering refugees. and here we are also advancing, which is why i am positive that are we form of the european solemn system will be possible in this european term. if we keep up the speed and the pragmatism of the past 12 months, that i can help with no one has been in the ford. another aspect could play a role that we sometimes neglected in the past till more and more european countries. nude skilled workers, skilled labor to come to europe get offered in conformity with law. and this is
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also true for germany. we need skilled workers in great numbers of taurus. first and foremost, we invest in the vocational training of workers here before we try to make it possible for parents to work by providing them with child care. and we make it possible to earn additional money on top of your pension. but if you take a look at the number of those who will retire in the next years, then you will understand that these measures alone will not eliminate the lack of skilled workers that we experience in germany. but in the past few years, not many of your co workers have come from other european nations to germany due to the freedom of movement in the european union. but this potential also has its limits, which is why our country needs and skilled men and women,
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ours from outside of europe, who help us in our companies, in our hospitals, in our trade and in our industry warner will down as in germany, we want to create a modern at migration law that helps to attract these talents to germany and life. and at the same time, at the same time, it is very clear. if you do not have a residence permit, you'd have to leave germany, which is why we have the le word with illegal barriers. 2 am, return criminals to their country. we have made sure that asylum procedures are spread out so that we know earlier who can stay and who can't. and on our administrative courts, we have also increased the speed of the processes,
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restoring funding, internal border controls, half being expanded at the german austrian and the german check border. and together with switzerland we ado border patrol. and last but not least, with the club, we will combine legal methods of migration with our clear expectation of the countries all are region to accept their citizens if they are not allowed to stay here. this is john last year coming in. we had a migration agreement with india, which is working very well, and several more agreements will follow with yahoo! stunned. we now have a special representative for migration and in parallel, we wanted to establish migration partnerships in the european union. ourself on the land has also made proposals in that regard and we fully support her efforts
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will bring the old login. this is them. this is how we bring this system in order. this is how we give the right incentive and what is maybe even more important. this is how we keep up the acceptance that exists in our country, both for the freedom of movement in the european union and a control migration of skilled labor. i think also to do your colleagues. the 2nd major topic that we will tackle at the european council is european competitiveness . the commission has already hinted in very sensible proposals, and this will be the basis for our consultations. like how we can help our companies to transform in of you all for the climate change and our challenging times. and the aint same time. i do not agree with those who for months have come up with dire prospects regarding the de industrialization
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of europe or the migration of the future technologies. none of these dark scenarios have materialized so far and they will not, because germany and europe set their sales in the correct manner when it comes to the energy transition. the availability of raw materials when it comes to compare, it is nice and the promotion of innovation. the retail prices for energy are not as high as they were. they have sunk down to the pre war level, sometimes even lower thanks to our measures. the inflation in europe is going down . the industrial production is stable. economic growth in the european union has not gone down, but even slightly up in the last quarter. in 2021. it was higher than growth in
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china or the united states. the number of people employed in germany and they are european union, has reached a record high. and when it comes to making our supply chains and sales markets more diverse, we are advancing. philip. it was only last week that i traveled to south america with an economic delegation and the inside of this trip, our new company partnership, new members to the climate club that we have instigated. and at the same time, the clear signal that a free trade agreement with microshore now has to become reality intense ladies and gentlemen, the united states did with their inflation reduction view act that have triggered a discussion about the economic location for climate technologies. it is true that we will see the consequences in europe,
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but i think we should not be too negative when it comes to that was on the one hand, noted i think we should well come at the united states now have embraced the energy transition building and also, secondly, in europe, we do have the economic prerequisites in order to master the transition of the industry. the commission has presented calculation is on that. the facilities that we have created during the cover to pandemic has an amount of 20250000000000 euros for the d. corbin's ation of the european industry. and only a small chair of it has been spent so far. the power you initiative comes with another 20000000000 in terms of funds and a 3 digit just amount going into the billions is also of a.

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