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produced dozens of heads including walk on by, i say, a little prayer, and wayne jobs keep falling on my head knobs. keep all and own law here. and just like the gathers be got too big bold is bed. and with that, now you're up to date on d. w. news coming up. next we have a documentary film on afro germans and what it means to be black in germany. i'm sarah kelly and berlin. thank you so much for watching. do stay with us if you can for that. take care. ah ah, linda, blue, what people have to say matters to us. and that's why we listen to their stories. reporter every
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weekend on d. w. ah, ah museum deutsch sir. i see we see being german as something defined by skin color, bison being german means being white. and those who aren't white are essentially new commerce and don't have the same right to be part of society as white people advisor mention ah, my daughter, i was born in germany. i'm a german native speaker. i've been to africa once in my life as part of a package to her. it doesn't get more german than that. mm hm. mm. ah, british people will, of course, as me,
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where i come from finish and i say from corpus or the and your mother. all st. and also from cop us. does that answer your question or do you still need that little piece of the puzzle that explains why look the way i do this in a catfish onasia? ah, and britain, they say we are here because you were there. i think is where you here because you were there. yeah, i think that's a very important part of the answer. i'm society here must take responsibility for what happened in its history. when was the does bus in the ability to proceed with the siskin now devilish to commend. this is exactly the right moment to look at black german history of easy and how it's always been a part of german history and tylenol, quotes and pot reached. he got tied or targeted. ah hm.
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ah, ah. lou abena demarco's family is in its 5th generation in germany. oh, these lovely old photos the fact what you see here, a typical old german household. i do it with wood paneling and fabric wallpaper stuff to appear to as of if you can't get a snapshot of jim and mike than that i am in 1896, her great grandfather mondanca deek became the 1st african to acquire german
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citizenship and humbug. london, amazing kaiser, that was ride on nato cuz he was known to be very loyal to the emperor and very german though it is. however, i know my family for me has a long history and the longest on its back as it were in pick. so to saddle, m d c, unless we do, it means having experiences all having survived a lot is so and the survival pot is especially important. oh, as is the fact that even back then they fought for their humanity to be recognized . tequila has owen her this alpha stay at hob ah, and what became known as the berlin west africa conference in 1884. the european powers carved up the continent among themselves without african participation. germany then also became a colonial power ruling over togo, cameroon, german, east,
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africa, and germany, south west africa. even before the 19th century germans had been profiting from the slave trade. now, colonists seized entire territories, culminating in a genocide in namibia in 19 o 4. meanwhile, growing numbers of africans were arriving in germany. ah, robbie akin is a british historian who researches the history of black europeans. o. d. clooney outside is mystic for the standing colonial period. is important for the emergence of a black community. asked him because it was the 1st time that hundreds, if not thousands of black people were able to come to germany afterwards on con, con, when he's in us feel a sheena that came for many different reasons. the some i and several 100 people, for instance, were brought over for the human zoos that turn germany or across europe and thought
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on one small cannon financial from their 1st appearance in the 18 seventy's. these ethnic logical expositions proved extremely popular with the european public. at the hanover's, who, in 1913 ethiopians were hired as contract workers, they were put on display, often with their families. visitors paid an entrance fee to see them. as colonists were committing genocide and africa back home in germany, the middle class were being one over to the so called colonial adventure dd and dessert exhausted size ation. romanticize ation. this idea of, ha, let's take the family to the soon, like we know to day nought father. instead of looking at animals, say, we get to see exotic people as a king out, meet my dog home, except these people went representing their own culture, all communities. so called o copeland, dog ashburn, hobbin zonen, and it was
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a staged spectacle in and had nothing to do with who they actually went and fast the dog stead voss and he got, he threw in and vicky gotten mm. the 1st state organized colonial exhibition in germany took place in 1896 in berlin, 106 men, women and children were brought in from german colonies. photographs show how people were racially degraded and forced to be exhibited thus builds dusty dodge antonia colonial authorities. wanted to portray africans as less civilized, as primitive civil as the of those mit onto zigler. one of them wanted to use this image to legitimize germany's colonial project as well. yeah, there civilizing mission ya, kazi, does a civilizing mission, dodson playing the germans,
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bringing kosher and civilization to african student. awfully khana berlin was the capital of an overseas empire. the colonial administration needed craftsman, translators, and other specialized personnel. young africans were brought over to germany for training, most of the men and drawn from the african elite. some were still just school children. their parents paid considerable sums for their education. the new arrivals called one another compatriots, but they were not foreseen as a permanent part of german society with an 1891 monday, that deep traveled to humble up from de walla cameroon. he came from a wealthy family and could already speak german. he then completed an apprenticeship as a shoemaker blue alloy to her
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sensual. she was expected to demonstrate his shoemaking skills in the big shop window portrait to yolanda anna avo sidon. and that made him feel like he too was on display, the name of which made him feel very uncomfortable. approval madam. so in the end he changed his profession and became a merchant ascend loaner vehicle. for while traveling on business, deacon met a woman called emilia. interracial marriages were banned in the colonies for reasons rooted in racist ideology. but in get danced than danzig and prussia. the couple married and had 2 daughters, africa and toys, highly respected, afro german family. they ran a store selling tobacco and other colonial goods. ah, the lives of black people in germany would have little interest to most historians until katerina. oh, good toy. as work appeared, she was the 1st to research the stories of afro germans,
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including that of mondanca deek. ah, is this astounding? i was astonished to discover that he was granted citizenship. i'm hoping to come up and elbows. it was so early on that there weren't yet objections from the colonial administration. oh said colon. yeah, i have i from house. uh, most people who applied later were rejected it would it, us them for, via got after the 1st world war, german imperialist expansion was brought to an end, at least for the time being. the treaty of versailles resulted in germany seating its colonies. mm. at the same time, french troops occupied the rhineland. among their ranks were african soldiers, which german nationalist saw as a humiliation. they launched a racist smear campaign, calling it the black shame that propaganda in turn fueled racism against all black
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people across germany into a far more dangerous form. but from the very start, there was resistance. in 1919, germany's 1st black train driver, martine de bova and other people of african descent, listed their demands in a historic petition. when at vos, san tyre davis part of the anti colonial resistance, which had always been, they're not as if god, i was never a time when black people didn't fight back out or stand up for their right was the few years after, i guess it's tom with natasha a kelly is a scholar and activist who has documented the lives of people who brought about change and german history. ah, though martine de bova had sworn allegiance to the weimar republic,
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he wanted to achieve something new with the petition. equal rights for black people . 18 africans living in germany signed the petition to the german parliament. oh, divorce. eula, africa wanted jo africans to have the opportunity to attend university or college hortshoi. they wanted deval it probably for personal reasons to the recognition men, and legitimize ation marriages between black men and white women. ah, and i, kent's wooden on leg a team von or devoted. i also want a determinant representative in the parliament. i thought martin to bobo to be precise to martin, to move as on the petition failed. but it marked the dawn of the 1st black movement in germany. mondanca deek was one of the men who signed his name
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to day. those events are remembered on a commemorative pillar in downtown berlin. thus, man, that's my great grandad. it's in the us. i think it's fantastic historical. yeah, historic as much as good. it's such a good feeling to know that my great grandfather was also part of the fight. you're kind of tucked. ah, as the roaring twenties hit germany black american dancer josephine baker became a celebrated figure on the stages of berlin. ah, extended us emma, the bus, i always call it, the grass skirt to ears, and short black man had to walk around wearing a grass skirt. not a suit, licked with them, and so ah, lookin had borne in berlin in 1925
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t a door. vanya mikhail was one of the few surviving black witnesses of the nazi era until his death in 2019. as a child, he was put to work in the circus, and in the so called human zoos. he hated being docked at, or when complete strangers would run their fingers through his hair. things got even worse with the introduction of the notorious nuremberg race laws. in 1935 colonial migrants were stripped of their citizenship. theodore vanya mikhail was issued an aliens passport and was rendered stateless. he lost his job at a hotel. ah, finding work became nearly impossible. one of the few exceptions was a niche market. the movies ah,
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the most expensive film of the nazi era. munchausen required many black extras to play servants in a turkish palace. ah, the rules conforms to the grading stereotypes that further the nazis racist ideology. oh, the young theodore vanya me sheil played the sultan's fanning. boy, only later did he realize he'd been exploited the dams in a sneak, exploited in the sense that i never played a positive role, though, shows pussy t for a though, i was only ever decoration decor, i'd say needed exotic people. i'm how did the ex, or they needed us? and today we know we were exploited. chrisman misquote got the notion of white supremacy was celebrated in many nazi colonial films. the
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regime had plans to reconquer former overseas colonies. clocks in africa was one of many films to degrade black people and use overtly racist dialogue with the blue yodi. kenny, i don't have anybody not o, as in any event in this clip. the protagonist gestures to the people approaching and says he seen them before. quote, at the berlin zoo, afro german actors were routinely cast and such roles. the medicine man was played by louis brody, the grandfather of a bene, auto mako, plaintiff amune, and my family and a large number of african people here only survived the nazi era because they were needed for these german colonial films from ah, from 1939 onwards daily life became increasingly dangerous for black people. the dks were among many families who lost their home and had their passports revoked.
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mondanca dx business went bankrupt. interracial couples faced persecution. around 400 children fathered by black french occupying troops were for simply sterilized. many black people were forced to go into hiding. at least 2000 were killed in concentration camps. the afro german community was being eradicated by the nazis or does zeal is vote pushed us as kind of young was to ensure that there wouldn't be another generation of black people in germany on cuba, soil, and more importantly, mia that there would be no black europeans auto pia gaden saw it. ah, in the wake of the 2nd world war, the allied occupation forces in germany included a number of black troops from the united states. oh. after 1945,
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about 5000 children were born to black american soldiers and german women in west germany into the 1950s. the children were still the subject of anthropological research that spanish had all can speech teacher firsthand of thesis is very important to understand that this idea of so called races being unable to mix stems from earlier german colonial times. eligible sco born var on the bit was an idea that prevailed well beyond the 2nd world war and even be killed off suddenly it was the children of the allies that now pose this problem. again, da, state vida, i might, i know gleam dash o i of a sudden there a drop her beard or did i talk? i don't know. and seeking miss linger in this archival sound from 1950 to a west. german parliamentarian uses a racist slower in reference to more than 3000 biracial children. she says they
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quote, present a special type of human and racial problem. even our country's climactic conditions are unsuitable for them and quote, hundreds of children were given up for adoption, mostly to families in the united states. this west german television report from 1957 featured a single mother because of it because of my group would be much going before my son, the phillip and very the here cute girl found that we can cheerful scheme of the granted as an illusion. his friends in the for the most you to this is alicia with a single shuffle. here on the i'm seen me. thank you. thank. we help you to them or of the theater losses. i'm mostly thank you. now, a little me look at them as we can, i can. ah, lou in costa was one of these children
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born after the war. ah, he would go on to become the 1st black man to play for a german national team. his father was an american g. i have been here long. i was born here to enjoy freedom. my mother is german. i feel german, honestly to me for us, for me playing for the german national team was the greatest. i'm out of georgia muslims for nationwide. evian coasted, i was born in munster, in 1946. his 6 older siblings were all white. he never got to know his father. on his way to school, people would routinely give him the nazi salute. with countless racist remarks still haunt him today. it
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was hell, absolute hell disruption which do you hello that fall numbers from even women? and when i go into a shawn woman and maybe misbehave a little. hm. what they'd say come on, black kid, how do i go back to africa? awfully god. that was how it was day in day out at lake jones. i mean, i was meant to be put in a home, but my mother refused to send me away, was can honestly, she had got 6 white children, 6 and then a black one comes along, wanted on. yeah. and people pointed you larger tongue, a thing on of, on football offered a chance to escape the humiliation because ab in costa was good, extremely good. he played center forward and germany's top division. the bond is legal and scored the goal of the season in 1974 for kickers opened by
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later that year he played for west germany's national team in a european championship qualifier of of, of us better. but back home fans of rival teams continued their races to chance unabated. the miracle there have always been nasty remarks. trust me. look, you need to be pretty tough in germany. sometimes on to there was a section which always shouted $110.00 gazed and one. i hung a claim for a little under the media celebrated him, but always as an outsider, the owner of the brown bomber. they could have written the bomber gazelle, i'm not a brown bomber. there always had to be something i've also, we all came to me. in 1990 castaneda was wrongly accused of robbing an arcade. a football fan claimed to have recognized him from his skin color. there was no actual evidence to support the case. custody was
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acquitted after spending 6 months in custody. bmw shy club at us, i think i was the 1st black child to start school and caught bus. and cutlass had a population of probably $40000.00. at the time lou shut it off. i don't remember seeing a black person before i was 10. didn't any in shots meant causing? i said, i didn't even know there was such a thing. so at ascii, ah, daddy, unavailable, was born in communist east germany in 1962. her father,
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a student from gonna left the ged are. she was raised by determined women, her mother, and 2 grandmothers. she was a very good student and was selected to be a school crossing guard. this is amateur footage of the proud family. ah, yeah. islam, it was, there was something different about me if on. but i learned that from others by ago, it wasn't anything i felt myself. when i saw was they all play like me. i do math in gymnastics the same way they do yet something was different about me from yoga. and as it was not something that was discussed at home yet, but just wasn't important. and you could see it as yoga, z, middle yawning, auto. oh, isn't on no, no, i'm a mia finish. massive or was i was the alabama angela davis to this is endeavor to live with happy angela davis became the face of black power in east germany. and the american scholar,
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civil rights activists and communist was wrongfully imprisoned in the u. s. until her acquittal in 1972. all right. angela davis is angela davis had a huge impact on my life. i've been here when i look at the photos now the, the afro luck was all the rage back then. and of course i had an afro and i wore glasses. and austin and wherever i went in the east somehow i was always angela davis. there was a political struggle taken up by the g d r. that was good for me to retype them. who taught in the late 19 seventy's east, germany recruited a growing number of workers from vietnam and gola mozambique, and other fellow com destinations. more than $200000.00 people total by the time of german reunification. but they were obliged to go back home after a few years and the authorities did not envision their broader social integration.
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gabrielle available world remained a largely white one esla information east focus. i love the weren't supposed to assimilate into not until the ball, the foreign workers were housed separately from the rest of the population as a this one is so it wasn't like you were suddenly seeing a black person in the supermarket or the swimming pool. a lot artist that comes with what's in the 4. ah, gabriella veal bold studied medicine and was already a qualified doctor when this footage was taken in the early 1990 s. she always wanted to be a gynecologist, but the local authorities stipulated that she specialize in hi, janet care, despite the country shortage of gynecologists at the time. vailable protested, does if a move to this was of course i selected it was because of my skin color was he owns over at school being a gynecologist means close physical contact with people. and while as
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a hygiene specialist, i'd be sitting in an office and basically out of sight me, i said i could see absolutely no reason to not be working in my chosen field. so it her she took the issue to the next level, threatening to send a complaint to the east german head of state and he shaneka. busy yar fox, he brought us ish, the upshot was 2 or 3 weeks later i received a letter informing me that they were happy to comply with my request because the city really did need more gynecologists all on. so i became one yom specifics that im of all ah avena auto mako, grew up at the same time as gabrielle of his bold. but in the other germany, in west berlin. after jobs in paris and london, she started working for an international and geo as
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a young woman in the 1980s. she wanted to become an optician and asked a friend for help in finding an apprenticeship. and then comes is that sucks. no, she was very embarrassed when i asked again whether she could find someone to take me on as an apprentice. leave a name hold on this afternoon. she said, no, we're still unfortunately, they told me, yeah, we know you, but people aren't ready for black hands to be poking around in a white person's face in an embarrassing position. on full moon, on this one or 2, it was a big shock finish. look who's easy and very awkward for her to about us. wazell they asked. it was the 1st time i've realised it wouldn't be easy to do the job. i wanted them. but oh, super din ish. mahan merged her. a bene, under marco, wanted to stop feeling like a stranger in her own country and went looking for people who felt the same way.
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in 1985, she met a group of women connected to the american poet and queer civil rights activist. audrey lord, lord was a guest lecturer at the free university in west berlin, who encouraged black women to discover their communities history and celebrate their heritage. as as harvey, i am a lawyer. it was like an epiphany of relief. ah, we were all there without shyness. our needs our experiences, our desires, sadness owned a swag or it was great shows la m, it enabled us to break out of that isolation or is the last one. so com or that is a lot so and so come on in that sense of community carried us amount of time on site gotten? yeah, you love it comes to us and i, i know it was like we'd been existing in
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a room with no air con creators. and i see well, only met argy lord, the african american poet. and she was simply interested in our lives here when her and suggested that we introduce ourselves to each other for which long and to the world when to have it. it's washed in her as well as quite a big deal for my and me as we were still very young and it's seamless. yeah. of course off garber. ah. and at the 1st meeting, they would be 30 person and they would be very excited her. because for everyone it would be the 1st time being in a group of other africa. humans, people who have the same experience the same. yeah. who could, without talking about it would understand you. i know it makes you smile in la garza. together with activist my i eme katerina ogen toya, wrote
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a book called showing our colors and the project helped them to develop a positive self image. at the same time, audrey lord, urge them to self identify as afro germans or black germans. a says it was important because until then star, we'd always been objectified and societal object stellan. and these are cuz they're shocked how people talked about discovery that the of what we were the subject of various political and academic debate. now put me to show you this and softly had to button on the. and i think the showing our colors project was the 1st time we were leading the narrative using such a political voice to, oh, i know, put me to shem. mm. it was the stark of the 2nd black movement in germany with the founding of the initiative of black people in germany, and later it's sister organization, a defra for black women in germany. lou. 1989
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saw the fall of the berlin wall. and the time when many hoped for a freer and better life, the eastern town of aber wilder made headlines. a mom of more than 50 neo nazis attacked young african contract workers outside a local restaurant. alma dale antonio from angola was beaten into a coma, with one of the attackers stamping on his head. antonio died 2 weeks later, at the age of 28. for your sins, man, to bizarre, do. ducking back there. i just feel really heavy mail. cornersville camille is seeing a colleague and brother who lived with us, tie the mod, saying up just because he was black out a book in enabled. oh, like his friend, i'm a dale, antonio yona mancha,
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stayed in the country after the collapse of the communist regime. they both come to east germany from angola as contract workers in 1987. both had hoped to study antonio wanted to be an aircraft engineer. instead, he ended up working at a meat packing factory. antonio fell in love with a german woman and was looking forward to soon becoming a father and building a family. i'm a day on tonia was the 1st murder victim of right wing violence and re unified germany. more attacks would follow in both the east and the west. yona munger remembers the atmosphere back then. vicinity mia? as your vinnish, what about media as it is can pass that i went out on the street, yet the same thing could happen to me when dismal meant vocalist from that was that
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was a really bad time for us to homozygous the sofa and the kid was like war by owns of a and in war. as of him, you don't know when you're going to die on 2 steps or door. when you lose a leg or an armed up with as or that says 0 v mid to all, we were terrified by then and devolved z a z, a gross. oh oh oh, it was around this uncertain time that convent adam was born in the east german city of gena. today he researches radicalization and is a social worker. and
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he grew up with the feeling that something bad had happened to him at any time to cease feel mischief. do you like to be that meant no detours foolishness. you're not going to the playground or somewhere else after school, but going straight home. lemons. eastman, if you met with friends, cliff then at their homes, if possible, i didn't from one to 10. when you met outside and then only very close to home or in groups. i would also does. you knew that every time you left your home for the i, it was potentially dangerous. is this put in southfield? so as a young boy, he had no idea of the neo nazi. and as you group forming in his neighborhood where future members be at a cheaper and of a month, los attended the youth club on the corner. somehow, adam, since that he was seldom truly safe. ready oh, teen violence of the 19 ninety's may have subsided, but not the racism. in
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2016 conrad adam was racially harassed by a group of drunk people while on his way to the supermarket. he called the police for assistance asking they be removed from the square footage systems as provided got when the officer refused to come and remove them. so clearly i tried to explain again why i thought that was necessary office, that they were racially abusive or might racially abuse other people that day, you can talk to play from columns to swing and plots for was models, least of then the police officer said something like when, as often as seems, you're just making a big deal about the color of your skin. the up was confusing, right? memorial. hopeful. unlike young black people of his generation, in the former west, germany, adam lacked a community and felt his was a lone struggle in the former east. but he changed that in 2018. he found that
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a local branch of germany's oldest civil rights group for black people with only 4 people in the beginning. today he's a member of the executive. the i estie have had annual meetings for the last several decades to convert m 1st attended one in 2019 this will finish cousins. kate was unreal. just going there and seeing so many black people experiencing a completely different atmosphere. it was just incredible and unbelievably enriching. hi, sean defaults mentioned he's a black people, i know now wellness cliff who had already been to these national meetings as children and say it was crucial for their own development. am your agnes will tell you to have the space for retreat and empowerment hub to know you have these awful experiences all year long leap was gone? see all of you. but then there's this one period in the year was grouped. these are where you can recharge your batteries on the wish. coffee, tight immerse yourself in another world. in the,
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in the under the vote and hong kong. the human right to a life free of racism. that's a key political issue that's motivated. the community with suzanne the pocket can thailand of my childhood as being i, full of life. luckily, i never experienced the time in refugee housing as anything bad wanted. i'm like that image. people like to create that for me who was born there. it was completely normal household. i was at home. there were lots of kids and ethan of it. it was only of a time that i realized it wasn't a normal upbringing, polish no malice. oh facts. in 2019, i me not at all, he became the 1st afro german deputy speaker of a regional parliament. 3 years later, she became the 1st black state minister or from the dominant come from an early age. you're reminded of the fact that you
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don't look like every one around you. there's often docile adults, especially make you feel that like there itching to know where you are on the yen distance doors. the mistake was in boy, will my 6 or 7 years old and think i lived here and you don't ask yourself all these questions about identity or ancestry my hair combed. i me not at all. he was born in refugee housing after her parents fled molly in 1992. at the age of 12, she became a german citizen. as a student leader, she showed an early commitment to combating discrimination today as a politician in the chalet, mich holstein state parliament. she tackles structural racism in public institutions and society at seamless about your racist experiences. i'm often asked and usually i have absolutely no desire to do so. for 2 reasons. the hasley because many believe that these experiences are individual. they start to, excuse that and tell me their coincidences,
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coincidences that have been piling up for 26 years, which up through part of go out what we're hated. so awesome, miss julie, you're always talking about racism that you yourself have made it a deputy speaker, double anchor, and i think, but what does that have to do with the fact that at this very moment to pull someone somewhere is probably having problems with immigration authorities are being racially abused on the street, my heart, and order as a socialist would often classroom. little toners were tending that these issues are all fixed just because you have some individual figurehead is very problematic. so problematic to day one, 5th of all germans have migration backgrounds. how me, natalie, encourages minorities to become politically active. escape am cannot release the heart of the issue is the question of who's allowed to be part of society? and what does it actually mean to be german deal from in the words of arrow german
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poet, my a young i who instead of asking questions simply states is about i will still be african, like, even if you want me to be german. and i will be german, even if my blackness does not suit you is about i will go yet another step further to the very edge of my when my sisters and brothers stand, where i freedom begins it that i will go yet another step further and another and will return when i want, how i want borderless and brazen. thank you. ah, the 3rd and 4th generations of an afro german family athena, under marco's mother. beryl was born in good dance in what is now poland. family's european chapter began. even now at 82 years old, she's still sometimes confronted with questions about her roots. yeah, with good, where are you from? don't you speak german?
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what are you doing here anyway? well, what do you then say? i'm german, that it's been dollar chip is what i like them. ah, black and german, the descendants of mundane, the deep show that this was never a contradiction in terms of bene, auto marco's daughter, currently in london, is now the 5th generation of the deep family. it's their history, and it's german history. ah, is harbor the school? does have the feeling that we'll be seeing more progress going forward than we did in the past. presidio for the for kogan, this is law with us. we're not going to let this rare kind of woman lesson vietnam were here with doesn't on and there's no changing that. that will kind and come,
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