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much more on our website, g, w dot com ah, a week after the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria hopes of pulling survivors out of the rubble or fading, but rescue workers refused to give up. luckily because a 183 hours after the tremors, they were able to free a 10 year old girl. earlier in the day, a 13 year old boy made it out a life and shortly before him, a 6 year old girl. but good news become rare with every passing hour. millions are grieving for their loved ones, their homes, their lives. but the sadness is slowly morphing into anger. anger at the fact that authorities ignored warnings of an impending quake and anger about promised assistance. that just won't reach them. turkey's long time president is under pressure and the opposition is set to seize the opportunity ahead of general elections planned for later this year. i'm nicole for the him,
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berlin and this is the day. ah, they fall in love with this apartment. they was sold a luxury residence. it was touched, cobbled. certainly there were shortcomings that is clear and we only have a story. we're sharing one tent with 2 other families. when the property develop of sold these apartments, keep room is the most stable building in town. if there was an earthquake, you could come and take refuge here. it is impossible to be prepared to deal with a disaster like this might have built this apartment because he was scared of quakes. ah, also on the day in the wake of a suspected chinese spying balloon,
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the u. s. air force shoot down more on identifying objects, flying over north america. exactly what they are, is yet to be determined. but we don't fully appreciate understand exactly what we're seeing. and so we, you know, as we progress the recovery efforts for some of the things that, that we've shot down at what will mobile oh, welcome to the show. it's been a week since devastating earthquakes struck turkey and syria. it is now clear that at least $35000.00 people have died. that's a figure which is set to rise further as rescue workers worked their way through the rubble of vast amounts of collapse, buildings. there are still moments of relief when people are brought out alive like this. 13 year old boy dug out of what's left of his home in the city of her tie. but relief efforts are focusing more and more on helping people who survive the quake and have been left homeless. just as anger rises over the perceived slowness
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of the government response to the quake, and the reasons so many buildings collapsed in the 1st place. our correspondent johan is in turkey's hard hand, had ty province, and sent us this report from the town of escandone. ah, this is what's left of the state hospital in the city of his kindred fields. to save lives, it became a death trap. the building collapsed on patients after the use quick stroke. one week later rescue teams are still digging so the rattle, searching for survival vision. can you give us any information about the person you have found? one? no, we couldn't find any id. a list of available mesa hi ellison's anxiously. whenever the rescue is announced, they found some one. her grandmother was at the hospital when the quaker mesa
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hasn't slept for days. she's been sitting here waiting, feeling helpless, catching all. i don't know how many days have passed. i lost track of time and so they only started looking for her. now. we're waiting here for her. i love my grandma very much. my number. my 2nd name is i sal. i was named after her mazes cousin ali john says mismanagement by the local authorities contributed to the disaster. he shows me what the hospital looked like before it collapsed. the building was dilapidated for years he says unsafe, but no one did anything about it. you college robin logan nichol mythology collision. it was obvious that this building would collapse sooner or later even without an earthquake. but why, of the kept using it subtle until it became
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a tomb for every one inside. the scale of the destruction is overwhelming. across the regions, thousands of buildings have collapsed and tie a neighborhoods have been flattened and hundreds of thousands of people left homeless. maybe give them your quote. we meet some of them in this makeshift camp and his candid on it feels disorganized desperate families who was strangers a week ago or now forced to share a small tent was not much in it. so this is a very, don't have enough tenths of law. it's so cold in sight, it doesn't warm up like that. i have 2 kids for boy somewhere. so we only have his join every time we're sharing one tent with 2 other families, yamuna. yet another thought and raining the kids are all sick and i have a small baby. please for god's sake to send us a tent young that have no help us come here at all. yes,
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video to them get me of what he up. mid february was a local governor, he's been sent here to lead the crisis response in the area, 90 percent of his team of volunteers blood. i admit that the country's disaster response was too slow in the 1st days. but now he says everyone's pulling in the same direction to 100 to roger the actually experienced a very big tragedy with which absolutely normal for those who are experiencing such a tragedy to feel darn but think you'd want to complain. good on the public. all surely we have license to learn what outcomes to examine the model all got a bought from this point forward. we will try to see this as a challenge to start over. good will differ. i'm the you shall, we will try our best to emerge from this better that of is normal. and then get in the upper just will you be taken talk. mom's good at the ruins of his skin dawns, hospital mesa isn't ready to stange over yet. she'll be waiting for news about her
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grandma for as long as it takes and she knows the themes may get worse before they get better. and i'm showing now from anchor by own all jerry, cause he's the foreign policy spokesman for the opposition party of a c h p with re jericho's. good to have you on the day we just saw their anger at the authorities is growing. who do you think is to blame for the extent of this tragedy? i said a couple of things. first of all, of the construction spirit matter, fortified, according to the earthquake regulations. that is one of the reasons why many of the buildings are left. secondly, the material used in the cross section was probably off low quality. thirdly, there's also a few months that the 4 sections allowed to be made on the west,
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or i was, i say it rides with basins to where it's not very solid. and this is of course always very difficult. so. ready we'll have solid conceptions and fortified on sections because the region is the one at fort line and it is known that anytime in earthquake may happen there. so i think all these precautions have been emitted that scientists, internally and beyond, hadn't been warning about an impending quake in the region. why do you think their voices were ignored? i think so, because so some of the equate expos geologist, thank you. physicians have the claim that i want to do last year when there was an earthquake in elizabeth and they mentioned that the next possible earthquake would happen in cotton. i'm on my rush. where did that beat has happened actually?
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and the reason for that was it was sent be on the main full line which is extending from the caspian into anatolia. and then it is separated into 2 branches . one goes through the knowledge of anatolia and the other one goes down to the, the skin bay. and the, that is the full lead on which is a mom, but she is located. so that was will video warning it by the experts. it went on for unfortunately this happened, but knowing that these are the circumstances you pointed out, the constructions were not for to fi materials that were used, that were of low quality. and the construction took place on wet terrain. if, if i am aware of the fact that this is a region prone to, to earthquakes, why did the authorities allow to build under these kinds of conditions that were poor and not appropriate to, to the area that, that these constructions were,
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were being built on. i'm afraid this is for political reasons probably, and that the something which the government is being key criticised about for people of course want to live in the cities and the cities are from justice and it's always, it's not possible to allow places where you can watch that buildings, but the authorities allowed this to happen and simply neglect that. and if they seem to think that there's a kind of a possibility for getting some bank of them, then probably best reason why they allow it, i think is there are so many contractors who is who are over the rest that old those 2 responsible contractors will have being built in the houses are now under as a but if it the. ready if the your i t s i also. ready know
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that they have neglected the necessary conditions that they get. they have given permission to be a good goes or sessions on those to rains. i think those but additions will also be accountable for that at let's talk about the government's role in all of this because many people are now pointing the finger at mister earned on the president who has been in his post for 20 years and many say you know now we are seeing a 130 contractors are allegedly responsible for these building collapses, but there's been a government in place that coin to have improved infrastructure is and possibly avoided this happening at the scale and did, how much do you think is the government to blame for the situation at hand. well, 1st of all, the earthquake happened on the 6th of february. and in the 1st 2 days, there was a serious lack of coordination. and it in many places before the upgrade has
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affected it wide area of 500 kilometers long, in many places outside of the city center. there's the villages have been unable to reach those down for interest that it was damaged. and some of the really just the because of the different no ropes to reach that and for that because of course one of the reasons why the bus is asked and the after 2 days then at the rescue tina start the work. but again, still it was a b, k o z and that was very serious medical coordination. lack of coordination is the most important thing, the point of the government performance and this is what people are talking about. and secondly, i think as far as the sustainability of the survivors. and that was also another demonstration of lack of coordination because some people complained about not
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having food. some people are asking for shelter. and the tense, which have been provided are not a covered in the winter conditions. are also a decreasing out there. but typically it is below 0. and that is of course, the be polar, tense, unfortunate that depends on the leg work for people to stay in the head of your party, the c h p has squarely blamed and on for the situation we're seeing here right now . do you agree with that? i agree with that because i think when we moved from the parliamentary assistant to the presidential system and the argument was that that will be a quick decision making process. and. busy the bureaucratic, a obstacles would be avoided and decision making would be much quicker in all
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respects. and that was the reason why the government at that time defended the presidential executive system. but i think the one men, a single decision makers, system and the press, national or newport executive system has failed, particularly in this way, or the lack of coordination that period. and everybody. ready waited for his sessions for that. i think that's the reason why it came on the list that all the criticizes the system and because the system is not functioning anymore. yeah. let's look ahead and what needs to be done to avoid scenarios like this. been ever repeating itself at the scale and we're seeing it now. what i think, 1st of all, of course though, judicially has to take the responsibility and to take those who are responsible to the judiciary. so that the court cases been opened and both of those contractors are probably going to be accountable for that. this is, 1st of all,
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the most important thing to show that nobody should escape from that event any more . secondly, i think in the mayor's and also those political authorities and local that the state will be very careful about giving permission to construction in those places . where do today is not the end you will for building conceptions this we have seen 2 years ago. he is me as well, and it mostly the buildings collapse because of the wet terrain. and that is also something which has to be avoided. and 3rd, the, i think the earthquake regulations have to be very sick the applied. and i'm afraid the in most of the buildings with the samples which are taken from the book, will show that there are big regulations and the quality of the building material is not used properly. and that is, of course, something that has to be cancelled in the future. that will now tell me cause that
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member of the turkish parliament for the opposition. c. h p. many, thanks for your time. thank you. ah, for months russia and the longer mercenary grove have had their eyes set on the eastern ukrainian city of backwoods. keith describes the situation is difficult and says it's facing intensified attacks from russian forces around the city which came under heavy artillery fire on monday. ukrainian troops still hold buckling despite months of pressure from the russian side, amid the battle for a city of higher symbolic than strategic value over the weekend, russia has claimed to have captured the nearby settlement of christina gora, who as the fight against russia's onslaught approaches, the one year mark ukrainian troops are running short of basic supplies, such as bullets, western nations are supplying ammunition to ukraine, but the arms industry appears stretched to keep up with demand. ukraine's endless
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quest to per hiretech weapons dominates the headlines. but in fact, the country soldiers and its allies have a much more basic problem. everybody's not asking for more ammunition. in i'm so on the front lines, there have been reports that ukrainian soldiers are nearly running out of bullets and some nato countries sake their cupboards are bare. the fact is no one expected to see a shooting war in europe ever again with thousands and thousands of rounds of bullets, shelves and missiles used every day by both sides, stockpiles of ammunition in nato countries. and more crucially, production capacity in the weapons industry had declined for years in favor of more sophisticated equipment. it's all unfortunate, but that's what it is, and it's the result of just in time just enough our way of looking at our economy. it's not
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a situation that can quickly be reversed. western countries have been learning the hard way that it's a the one of those problems where he doesn't where it doesn't suffice to throw money to problem. camille grant spent 6 years in charge of defense investment at nato. he says the current ammunition shortage could not have been foreseen, but admits. now it's a race against time to fulfill ukraine's urgent needs and replenish nato allies. domestic stockpiles. what is slowing us down as a bureaucracy? is the fact that we don't have enough skilled workers, is it the fact that the supply chains or not, what they should be, that we don't have the stock bards of critical components? the answer he says is, all of the above. nato allies are scaling up as fast as they can. the u. s. says it will increase production of artillery shells by 500 percent over the next 2 years. germany's rine metal says it's hiring more people and may build a new production plant. camille grants says at the same time, country should be looking at how to tap into other sources of ammunition components
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. germany as it, our technicians are metered, shunned with a lot of small companies producing a hunting ammunition sports ammunition. of course, a lot portion of that is not feats to do strictly military ammunition, but they can certainly contribute to the supply chain. earlier in the conflict, it was believed russia stockpiles were vast. but now the pentagon estimates moscow supply of modern ammunition will run out within months. oh, who is this spy in the sky. washington has rejected claims by beijing that american high altitude balloons have flown over china 10 times since the beginning of last year. the white house says the claim is false and no more than an effort at damage control by beijing. the us shot down a chinese balloon off the coast of south carolina on february 4th. since then,
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3 more mystery objects have been down over north america. the good news, it's not the aliens, the bad news. we don't know what else it could be. here's white house national security advisor, john kirby on the challenges of identifying the objects. now, in light of the chinese balloon program, in this recent incursion into our airspace. united states and canada through norwood had been more closely scrutinizing that air space including enhancing our radar capabilities, which is the commander of north common nora general van herc said just last night. may at least partially explain the increase the objects that have been detected. slow moving objects at high altitude with a small radar cross section are difficult to detect on radar. even objects, the size of the chinese spy balloon, which had a payload. the size of roughly 3 school buses were not picked up by previous administrations or other countries. one of those, let's bring an invoice. he's
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a professor for aerospace engineering sciences at the university of colorado boulder. good to see you. they seem to be very hard to identify. what do we know and maybe more importantly, what do we not know about these latest flying objects shot down in us aerospace? well, it seems like the last 3 objects are quite different from the 1st one. the 1st one as that somebody just described was the size of 3 buses. so very large, these more recent ones seem to be smaller about the size of a car, a small car. and they are also flying lower than the 1st object was. so still a lot of information, hopefully to come from us sources. but those are the kind of preliminary differences. it seems like once we started paying attention to the fine objects they started popping up all over the place. how unusual is the situation? but certainly the situation is unusual. i think if,
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if we hadn't had that 1st event from china, we probably would still not be hearing about these objects. you know, a lot of a lot of balloons are used all the time for, for weather and for science. you know, here in the us, even high schools are standing up balloons into the atmosphere. so there are a number of these objects in the sky all the time. i think there's just a heightened sense of alert right now. you know, because of that 1st one. now once you know, or you suspect that you have one of these objects in your air space, how hard is it to find them and shoot them down? well, i think what the u. s. has been doing is they have put up the aircraft. you know, after the initial tracking or identification that there was something there, those aircraft will have gathered more information. and that has been probably used to decide how to, to destroy or take down the satellites. i think it's been the same pretty much the
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same approach in all 4 cases where it's been a fighter jet, gone up and shoot it down with a missile. how likely do you think it is that china is behind this? well, i think it's unlikely that china is behind all for, i mean, i think china itself as it matters the 1st one, they're saying it was a weather balloon. and maybe, you know, one or more of the additional objects also comes from china. i find a hard to believe that all for do, i mean, i think it's just the heightened sense of awareness has led to, you know, careful scrutiny of the skies and, and sort of a shoot 1st and ask questions later, approach from the u. s. but as 5 balloon, it sounds like like an a bit of an archaic approach to spying right? because the chinese have ways to spy on the u. s. in ways that are much more discreet. oh, i agree, and i think that's,
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that's what cast some doubt on whether any of this is to do with spine. because i find it difficult to believe china would send over a balloon laden with all their latest spy equipment, knowing that it would be detected. it's the size of 3 buses knowing that it would be brought down. and if it is indeed a spy balloon, the us intelligence services are now, you know, raking over it, looking very carefully at the debris. and they would be learning a lot about chinese spying capabilities to follow this is true. and now basing has made counterclaims of a us balloon program. is there any evidence for that? not that i'm aware of, but if there was such a program, you know, the public would, would not be aware of it. so if this were all happening and what, what audience is this aimed at? is it a domestic audience? is it an international audience? mainly from the chinese part of things. well, i think, you know,
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china has engaged in so provocative behavior in the past, in the, in the south china seas in space and in destroying one of their own satellites. you know, maybe this is another example of that. but again, is kind of curious the timing right before a major visit from the secretary of state from the us to china. if, if this was deliberate, then i'm not sure the timing was, was well thought of invoice from the university of coal and colorado boulder. thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you. and that is our time, but make sure to stay in touch, follow our team on twitter at see the way it is or myself at nicole underscore. 40 for now, though, from the entire team here on the day. thanks for spending part of your day with us and help you again tomorrow. with
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