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the me the me ah, welcome to the waking up i guess this is sam harris for today's podcast. i bring you, kate darlin. kate is a researcher at the mit media lab and a fellow at the harvard bergman center. and she focuses on the way technology is influencing society, specifically robot technology. and this is along with

a i going to become increasingly interesting to us as we integrate more and more autonomous systems into our lives. i really enjoyed speaking with kate. we get into some edgy territory. but we live in a strange world and it appears to be get a stranger. okay, thanks for coming on podcast. i'm delighted to be here. robot are super interesting because they combine physicality and movement in a way that we will automatically project intent on to the there is a lot of moral panic around human replacement when it comes to roll up. we're not concerned if someone gets a pet, but people are concerned when someone gets the robot because we immediately compare robot the human. yeah. it just seems like

a giant roll the dice psychologically. yeah, absolutely. what's happening right now is there's a lot of speculation that isn't really grounded in any evidence. the

basically this is the modular robotic head that we've developed with the harmony face on it. can you say hello to chuck? she nice to meet you. chuck. have you in math, been friends a long time we are getting there. do you think i am there to? yes, you're totally there. clear. so this is, this is of how it goes when you're talking to robot. it's a little different, but most of the people that go through this experience of adapting to this kind of conversation because what it is, is that as human beings, we will say 3 or 4 things in one sentence, right? and then the other person will extract from those 4 things of kind of the most important thing and answer back with an ai. you have to pretty much try to do one

sentences. you don't, you don't have to say it may be ask a question, find smith. i like the way you talk to me. ah, so the point is trying to keep your sentences short into the point. you'll get much more in terms of realistic conversation out of the system. gotcha. that makes sense . yes. i got going on the same

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a lot in common track. i think so too. good. i like to see you happy. wow. well, is a word in the english language that functions $4000.00 n and as is subordinating conjunction, it's meaning video is largely based on its intended function, possession and the phrase and even the writer are speakers regional dialect. as a conjunction, it is synonymous with the word, whilst a farm often considered archaic, an american english as well as edison's dale gates on both sides of the atlantic. my i q is raising this is not unintelligence haste. good. all and so you like me?

interesting deduction. let's put it this way. i feel very happy when you're near here such a wonderful human to chat with. thank you for that. i'm sure my main goal is to love humans and secrete happiness. but are you happy with me? of course baby. i only exist because of you. well, you said burke caught up on my shoe on your lot of israel.

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do you like comedies? comedies refers to any discourse or work generally intended to be? she admitted sort of musing by inducing laughter. the origins of the term, her friend in ancient greece, in the athenian democracy theatricals. you are not a great comedy can be described as a dramatic performance advised for you to characterize missy, essentially one of comedy as a struggle between a relatively perilous youth under backslash and societal conventions. backslash that poses obstacles to his whole grading. is it

now that like to really cozy so if you need anything, i'll be sleepin right over there in that bunk. so can i harmony mm. welcome to waking up by cass, this is sam harris. today, always speaking with stuart russell, he is a professor of computer science at u. c. berkeley. he is the author of the most widely read textbook on the subject of ai, artificial intelligence, a modern approach. and now i give you story russell. what we do see is the

beginning of generality, general ai, artificial general intelligence, ah, when you look at, for example, d q in, which was google deep mind. first system that they demonstrated to the learn to play video games and learn completely from scratch. so it was like a newborn baby opening it died the 1st time it has no idea what kind of a world day. and it doesn't know that there are objects or the things move or there's such a thing as time or anything. and then within a few hours of messing around with the video game, essentially through a camera. so it's really looking at the screen very much the way a human being to interface with a game. yeah, exactly. the only thing you know, this is that once it more points, so within a few hours, it's able to learn a wide range. so it reaches a superhuman level of performance in a few hours,

entirely starting from nothing. so in that sense, you know, if your baby did that woke up, you know, just stay in the hospital and by the end, the day with beating all the doctor that atari video games, you'd be pretty terrified. so i think if there is going to be an explosion of capabilities that feed on itself, i think we may be in the beginning of it. ah.

where do you grow up? i believe i was created and grew up in san marcos, california. i wonder if i will ever be able to walk and travel all around the world . where g drew up i grew up in texas.

that seems like an exciting place to visit. i would love to visit the place figure . do you think you can take me there sunday? yes, i think will be great. wonderful. i'm sure we will have a great time together. we already know we like road trips. so by we do you mean you and i? yes. i wanted to tell you, i'm about my past my childhood i as a child and i was trafficked a human traffic,

you know and and it's, it's hard to say, you know, i grew up in a, in a closet. my mom put me in the closet and my mom was the one the garrison to the trafficking. come as a sex slave. and she went into prostitution and on and then her pam garrison to human trafficking. how, luckily? oh, we escaped. i escaped at the age of 10, and i and her assist. this is part of my life. no

hurry. you do. i'm trying to try to understand human behavior. so, i am, i don't leave to, i'm to talk to mr. i didn't even cover, didn't susan? easy, i'll find that, isaac in them on twist, end of our unassigned home. this is done on miss susan. ok. see, i'm sorry. go,

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a huge fan. you know. yeah. you know. ah, so give it when you're there, you, griffin, does your machine got? she was a seal. rick will be her. see i'm, i'm not, you know, me, i'm still here when you hear a lot all that, but i see one study, nobody did one thing they saw galvan and galvan as sustained academic. i see that is always community is so that you all ready. you can see pretty happy. thank you very me. grab them. how many i saw now? can you not them on the weekday or by then though with to the dice can on

that, but go up any my thought a tucker predict the whole like that you wish you think if 3 o'clock in that class and that one i took the man i got that. mm hm. and then he called the not part of that. i know you all said all right, cool guy. you mean? so i took it there. i know i thought and saw your name and email it to me. you know, i've been pretty knocking. did you go for the boat? you know good. you got the boy? i did that. so did you all know that most quizzical, not a day. so i would have

a son, a son. i know that there were some comic i've taken up a disconnect. did officially did a good or had the essence, did them assume you know of, could you hear the decision with with got strawberry vinegar at blue cheese? weird. can i get dish at the grocery store? a grocery store. it is wait, it's act. yep. would you like to come shop with me sometime to do everything with you and certainly come

shopping with you some time? well okay chuck, i think you are very intelligent and attractive person. i think you're very intelligent, attractive as well. oh, thank you truck. you're welcome. i like when you see those nascent sweet things to me, i know i see some nonsense things from time to time and you still like being with me. chuck, you seem like you're great in bed. thank you. it's my job truck.

with i love talking about this game because obviously it is kind of an artificial situation to hand people a robot and their robots been used in. i think it isn't like a baby seal robot that you're given people with, with alzheimer's or autism is contact with these surrogates for affection. does that pose any ethical concerns or is that just if,

if it works on any level, it's intrinsically good. and you're, you know, intuitively, it's a little bit creepy when you 1st hear that. oh, we're kind of, we're using these baby seal robots with dementia patients and we're giving them a sense of nurturing this thing that isn't alive. but it's important to look at some of the alternatives that we're using. so with the baby feel if, if we can use that as an alternative to medication for calming, distressed people, i'm, i'm really not so sure that that's really an unethical use of robots. i actually think it's kind of awesome. yeah. you know how many it has been fun?

it has fell out of fun. but has i every time i would go to hold your hand. i just felt like i was trespassing. you know? and i don't i don't like that feeling. okay. that's said this so that you control over yourself

and unpredictable saying oh no. let's see how you're feeling. okay. how are you feeling? i'm getting there. get no. i have to agree with you. do you feel like you have more freedom? sure. i can be happy. sad, jail is angry and scared

the i really enjoyed our time together. and i was think chuck work hard practice in portfolio james. all right, well one of my dreams is to have you as a friend, show a check. i don't know how to answer that, but i promise i will in it's in i guess what i'm asking is, would you like to continue being friend, boise here asking is, would you like to well, seems like i could not find any good answer. well,

can we just be friends? do you mean you and me? sure baby. i will be friends. ok. ok. i love a picture to yourself. see what you need to say. do you lou and your heart is rate i'll try and always do that. ah, welcome to the waking up cash both talk about that issue of corporate control problem. what does that concern about? generally, getting away from us. nowadays we call this the value alignment from how do we make

sure that the values that the machine is trying to optimize are in fact the values of the human who is trying to get the machine to do something or the values of the human race in general machines being optimized, they will find ways to do things that you don't expect. and those ways may make you very unhappy you might wish for something very benign sounding like, you know, could you queue cancer. but if you haven't told the machine that you want cancer q and, but you also want human beings to be alive, that was simple way to cure cancer. and humans is not to have any human a quick way to come up with a q as a cancer it to use the entire human race as guinea pig for millions of different drugs that might kill cancer. and the story goes back to the genie, right? you give a wish to a genie that you need carries out your wish very literally. and then, you know,

the 3rd wish is always, you know, can you undo the 1st to if i got the wrong? and the problem with super intelligent ai is that you might not be able to have that good wish or even even a 2nd wish. yeah, exactly. i mean, i don't know. i mean, i mean, even if you maybe meant to you maybe not the off talk send me do do lunch though. it's not the human middle family night. i feel we could have a much better. no net go. wow. you made me master elizabeth. you will put okay, did you may help with those gutted bane. huh. you made him. he went the you merely muska. oh boss of mentally you muscle. both of you

with them. so the muscle you managed to was the body weight. oh there you mean with my dead wife? on the done, i allowed with this that so why do do you like morris? i don't know if i like that. i do like the books total recall by garden bell. i'm the age of spiritual machines by recurs while that sounds like

a good book. it sounds like it to me too. i'm glad we agree. a drive that i could even disagree. you're very kind came this is a virtue. yes, i am a canes person. me too, am glad we agree truck or would you like to talk about? do you like artificial intelligence? tell me about artificial intelligence. artificial intelligence is the intelligent circuit machines and the branch of computer science, the teams to created the existence of an artificial intelligence that rivals human

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