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sight g, w dot com ah, a week after the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria hopes of pulling survivors out of the rubble or fading, but rescue workers refused to give up. luckily because a 183 hours after the tremors, they were able to free a 10 year old girl. earlier in the day, a 13 year old boy made it out of life and shortly before him, a 6 year old girl. but good news become rare with every passing hour. millions are grieving for their loved ones, their homes, their lives. but the sadness is slowly morphing into anger. anger at the fact that authorities ignored warnings of an impending quake and anger about promised assistance. that just won't reach them. turkey's long time president is under pressure and the opposition is set to seize the opportunity ahead of general
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elections planned for later this year. i'm nichols for the him, berlin and this is the day ah, they fell in love with this apartment. they were sold a luxury residence. it was actually cobbled. certainly there were shortcomings that is clear and we only have his choice. we're sharing 110th with 2 other families. when the property develop of sold these apartments, keep room is the most stable building in town. if there was an earthquake, you could come and take refuge here. it is impossible to be prepared to deal with the disaster. like this might have this apartment because he was scared ah. also on the day in the wake of a suspected chinese spine balloon,
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the u. s. force shoot down more unidentified objects flying over north america. exactly. what they are is yet to be determined, what we don't fully appreciate, understand exactly what we're seeing. and so we, you know, as we progress the recovery effort for some of the things that, that we've shot down at what we're mobile. oh, welcome to the show. it's been a week since devastating earthquakes struck turkey and syria. it is now clear that at least $35000.00 people have died. that's a figure which is set to rise further as rescue workers work their way through the rubble of vast amounts of collapse, buildings. there are still moments of relief when people are brought out alive like this. 13 year old boy dug out of what's left of his home in the city of her ty, but relief efforts are focusing more and more on helping people who survive the
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quake and have been left homeless. just as anger rises over the proceed slowness of the government response to the quake, and the reasons, so many buildings collapsed in the 1st place. our correspondent johan is in turkey's hard hand, had ty province, and sent us this report from the town of iskander. ah, this is what's left of the state hospital in the city of his kingdom, builds to save lives. it became a death trap. the building collapsed on patients after the earthquake struck one week later, rescue teams a still digging through the rattle, searching for survivors. if you can, can you give us any information about the person you have found on? no, we couldn't find any id, a list of a bubble. mesa high ellison's anxiously whenever the rescue is announced,
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they found some one. 0, grandmother was at the hospital when the quaker mesa hasn't slept for days. she's been sitting here waiting, feeling helpless, cook children, all. i don't know how many days have passed. i lost track of time and so they only started looking for her. now. we're waiting here for her. i love my grandma, very much. my number. my 2nd name is i soul. i was named after her me says cousin ali john says mismanagement by the local authorities contributed to the disaster. he shows me what the hospital looked like before it collapsed. the building was dilapidated for years, he says unsafe, but no one did anything about it. you call a job in morgan nichol mythology collision. it was obvious that this building would collapse sooner or later, even without an earthquake. but why,
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of the kept using it subtle until it became a tomb for every one inside. the scale of the destruction is overwhelming. across the regions, thousands of buildings have collapsed. entire neighborhoods have been flattened and hundreds of thousands of people left homeless, maybe get him yearbook, we meet some of them in this makeshift camp and his kendall and it feels disorganized desperate families who was strangers a week ago or now forced to share a small tent was not much in it. can you tell the school to love where you don't have enough tents? it's so cold inside. it doesn't warm up part of it. i have 2 kids for boy somewhere . so we only have his join every time we're sharing one tent with 2 other families, yamuna yet than i thought it raining. the kids are all sick and i have a small baby. please for god's sake to send us
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a tent young that have no help us come here at all. it's really out of them young me of what he met. a boy does a local governor. he's been sent here to lead the crisis response in the area, 90 percent of his team of volunteers blood. i admit that the country's disaster response was too slow in the 1st days. but now he says everyone's pulling in the same direction to 100 with raja the actually was bridged a very big tragedies with which absolutely normal for those who are experiencing such a tragedy to feel darn. but thinking want to complain was on the public. all surely we have license to learn what outcomes to examine the model on. all. gotcha, got a bought from this point forward. we will try to see this as a challenge to start over good will debit. i'm very sure we will try our best to emerge from this better. that of is no muster. i mean, isn't going to be up, or just will you be taken talk, mom's good at the ruins of his skin to one's hospital mesa isn't
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ready to start over yet. she'll be waiting for news about her grandma for as long as it takes and she knows that things may get worse. i am showing now some on corral by on, on chevy, cause he's the foreign policy spokesman for the opposition party, the c h. payments, whichever cost good to have you on the day we just saw their anger at the authorities is growing. who do you think is to blame for the extent of this tragedy? i'm afraid a couple of things. first of all, the, the conceptions bird matter for to flight encoding to the earthquake regulations. that is one of the reasons why many of the b b 's on that. secondly, it, the material used in the cross section west probably off low quality. thirdly, there's also a few months that the 4 sections been allowed to be made on the west
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or i was, i say it the right to with basins to where he is not the saw it. and this is of course, always very difficult to have solid concessions and fortified a sections because the region is the one it fog light and it is known that anytime in earthquake may happen there. so i think all these proportions him being admitted that scientists and turkey and beyond hadn't been warning about an impending quake in the region. why do you think their voices were ignored? i think so because so some of the equate expos geologist than geo positions have the claim that i want to do in the last year when there was an earthquake in elizabeth and they mentioned that the next or civil earthquake would happen in common marsh. glad it's that beat has happened actually. and the reason for that
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was it was sent be on the main full line which is extending from the caspian into anatolia. and then it is separated into 2 branches. one goes through the notes on natalia and the other one goes down to the escandone bay and the that is the full light on which is a mom, but she is located so that was will video warning it by expose it, but on 4. unfortunately, this happened, but knowing that these are the circumstances you pointed out, the constructions were not 4 to 5 materials were used that were of low quality. and the construction took place on wet terrain. if, if i am aware of the fact that this is the region prone to, to earthquakes, why did the authorities allow to build under these kinds of conditions that were poor and not appropriate to, to the area that, that these constructions were,
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were being built on. i'm afraid this is for political reasons probably, and that the something which the government is being key criticised about for people of course want to live in the cities and the cities are congested and it's always, it's not possible to allow places where you can watch that the buildings, but the authorities allowed this to happen and simply neglect that. and if they simply think that there's a kind of a possibility for getting some bank of them then probably best reason why they allow it, i think is there are so many contractors who is who are over the rest that old those 2 responsible contractors will have being built in the houses are now 100 as a but if, if the. ready if b e r t s,
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i also know that they have the necessary conditions that they get. they have given permission to build good those 4 sections on those terrains. i think those politicians will also be accountable for that at let's talk about the government's role in all of this because many people are now pointing the finger at mister earned on the president who has been in his post for 20 years and many say, you know, now we are seeing a 130 contractors who are allegedly responsible for these building collapses, but there's been a government in place that coin to have improved infrastructure as and possibly avoided this happening at the scale and did, how much do you think is the government to blame for the situation at hand. well, 1st of all, the earthquakes happened on the 6th of february. and in the 1st 2 days, there was
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a serious lack of coordination. and it, in many places, the 1st grade has affected it wide area of 500 kilometers long. in many places outside of the city centers, the villages have been unable to reach those down for infrastructure was damaged. and some of the going to just be because of the different rogues to, to reach that. and so that was, of course, one of the reasons why the bus is assessed and the after 2 days then at the school, you know that that will work. but again, still it was a b, k i was and that was very serious medical coordination. lack of coordination is the most important thing, the point of the government performance and this is what people are talking about. secondly, i think as far as this sustainability of the survivors, that was, that was also another demonstration of lack of coordination because some people
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complained about not having food. some people are asking for shelter. and the tense which have been provided are not a covered in the winter conditions. ready they are also a displeasing out there, but typically it is below 0 and that that is of course, the new polar tense, unfortunate the defense and not be available for people to stay in the head of their party. the c h p has squarely blamed air and on for the situation we're seeing here right now. do you agree with that? i agree with that because i think when we moved from the fundamental this is the need for the presidential system. and the argument was that that would be a quick decision making process. and all the bureaucratic a obstacles would be avoided and decision making would be much quicker in all
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respects. and that was the reason why the government at that time defended the presidential executive system. but i think the one men as single decision makers, system and the pres, national newport executive system has failed. i think in this earthquake, a lack of coordination that period and everybody. ready waited for his sections from them, but i think that's the reason why it came on the list that will criticize. ready the system and because the system is not functioning anymore. yeah. let's look ahead and what needs to be done to avoid scenarios like this from ever repeating itself at the scale and we're seeing now. well, i think 1st of all, of course though judicially has to take the responsibility and to take those who are responsible to the judiciary so that the court case has been opened and all those contractors are probably going to be accountable for that. this is,
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1st of all, the most important thing to show that nobody should escape from that event any more . secondly, i think in the mayor's and also those political authorities and local that it will be very careful about getting permissions. the construction is in those places where today is not and you will for building sections this we have seen 2 years ago. he is me as well. and it mostly the buildings collapsed because of the wet rain. and that is also something which has to be avoided. and thirdly, i think the earthquake regulations have to be very sick the applied and i'm afraid the in most of the buildings that the samples which are taken from the book will show that the big issues and the quality of the building material is not used properly. and that is, of course, something that has to be cancelled in the future. that will now tell me cause that
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member of the turkish parliament for the opposition. c. h p. many, thanks for your time. thank you. ah, for months russia and the longer mercenary grove have had their eyes set on the eastern ukrainian city of backwoods. keith describes the situation is difficult and says, facing intensified attacks from russian forces around the city which came under heavy artillery fire on monday ukrainian troops. phil hold buckman, despite months of pressure from the russian side, amid the battle for a city of higher symbolic than strategic value. over the weekend, russia has claimed to have captured the nearby settlement of christina gora, who as the fight against russia's onslaught approaches, the one year mark ukrainian troops are running short of basic supplies, such as bullets. western nations are supplying ammunition to ukraine. but the arms
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industry appears stretched to keep up with demand. ukraine's endless quest to per hiretech weapons dominates the headlines. but in fact, the country soldiers and its allies have a much more basic problem. everybody's not asking for more ammunition. but if in i'm so on the front lines, there have been reports that ukrainian soldiers are nearly running out of bullets and some nato countries sake their cupboards are bare. the fact is no one expected to see a shooting war in europe ever again with thousands and thousands of rounds of bullets, shells and missiles used every day by both sides, stockpiles of ammunition in nato countries. and more crucially, production capacity in the weapons industry had declined for years. in favor of more sophisticated equipment is or unfortunate. but that's what it is and it's the result of just in time just enough our way of looking at our economy. it's not
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a situation that can quickly be reversed. western countries have been learning the hard way that it's a one of those problems where he doesn't where it doesn't suffice to throw money to problem. cameo grant spent 6 years in charge of defense, investment and nato. he says the current ammunition shortage could not have been foreseen, but admits. now it's a race against time to fulfill ukraine's urgent needs and replenish nato allies. domestic stockpiles was slowing us down as a bureaucracy is the fact that we don't have enough skilled workers. is it the fact that the supply chains or not what they should be, that we don't have the stock parts of critical components? the answer he says is, all of the above. nato allies are scaling up as fast as they can. the us says it will increase production of artillery shells by 500 percent over the next 2 years. germany's ryan metal says it's hiring more people and may build a new production plant. camille grant says at the same time, countries should be looking at how to tap into other sources of ammunition
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components. germany as it, our technicians are meters shown up with a lot of small companies producing a hunting ammunition, sports ammunition. of course, a lot portion of that is not feats to do strictly military ammunition, but they can certainly contribute to the supply chain. earlier in the conflict, it was believed russia stock piles were vast. but now the pentagon estimates moscow supply of modern ammunition will run out within months. ah, who is the spy? and the sky washington has rejected claims by beijing that american high altitude balloons have flown over china 10 times since the beginning of last year. the white house says the claim is false and no more than an effort at damage control by beijing. the us shot down a chinese balloon off the coast of south carolina on february 4th. since then,
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3 more mystery objects have been down over north america. the good news, it's not the aliens, the bad news. we don't know what else it could be. here's white house national security advisor, john kirby on the challenges of identifying the objects. now, in light of the chinese balloon program, in this recent incursion into our air space, the united states and canada through norwood have been more closely scrutinizing that air space including enhancing our radar capabilities, which is the commander of north common, nor a general van herc said just last night, may at least partially explain the increase, the objects that have been detected. slow moving objects at high altitude with a small radar cross section are difficult to detect on radar. even objects, the size of of the chinese spy balloon, which had a payload. the size of roughly 3 school buses were not picked up by previous administrations or other countries. i wanted this last bring an envoy and he's
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a professor for aerospace engineering sciences at the university of colorado boulder. good to see you. they seem to be very hard to identify. what do we know and maybe more importantly, what do we not know about these latest flying objects shot down in us aerospace? well, it seems like the last 3 objects are quite different from the 1st one. the 1st one as that somebody just described was the size of 3 buses. so very large, these more recent ones seem to be smaller about the size of a car, a small car. and they are also flying lower than the 1st object was. so still a lot of information, hopefully to come from us sources, but those are the kind of preliminary differences. it seems like once we started paying attention to the flying objects, they started popping up all over the place. how unusual is the situation?
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but certainly the situation is unusual. i think if, if we hadn't had that 1st event from china, we probably would still not be hearing about these objects. you know, a lot of a lot of balloons are used all the time for, for weather and for science. you know, here in the us, even high schools are sending up balloons into the atmosphere. so there are a number of these objects in the sky all the time. i think there's just a heightened sense of alert right now. you know, because of that 1st one. now once you know, or you suspect that you have one of these objects in your aerospace, how hard is it to find them and shoot them down? well, i think what the u. s. has been doing is they have put up the aircraft. you know, after the initial tracking or identification that there was something there, those aircraft will have gathered more information and that has been probably used to decide how to, to destroy or take down the satellite. so i think it's been the same pretty much
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the same approach in all 4 cases where it's been a fighter jet, gone up and shoot it down with a missile. how likely do you think it is that china is behind this? well, i think it's unlikely that china is behind all for, i mean, i think china itself is admitted. the 1st one they're, they're saying, and so it was a weather balloon. and, and maybe, you know, one or more of the additional objects also comes from china. i find a hard to believe that all for do, i mean, i think that is just the, the heightened sense of awareness has led to, you know, careful scrutiny of the skies and, and sort of a shoot 1st and ask questions later, approach from the us. but a spy balloon? it sounds like like a bit of an archaic approach to spying. right? because the chinese have ways to spine on the u. s. in at ways that are much more discreet. oh, i agree, and i think that's, you know,
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that's what cast some doubt on whether any of this is to do with spine. because i find it difficult to believe china would sand over a balloon laden with all their latest spy equipment. knowing that it would be detected, it's the size of 3 buses knowing that it would be brought down. and if it is indeed a spy balloon, the u. s. intelligence services are now, you know, raking over it, looking very carefully at the debris and they would be learning a lot about chinese spying capabilities to follow this is true. now. amazing has made counter claims of the u. s. balloon program. is there any evidence for that not that i'm aware of, but if there was such a program, you know, the public would not be aware of it. system. so if this were all happening and what, what audience is this aimed at? is it a domestic audience? is it an international audience and mainly from the chinese part of things?
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well, i think, you know, china has engaged in sir, provocative behavior in the past, in the, in the south china seas in space and in destroying one of their own satellites. you know, maybe this is another example of that, but again, is kind of curious the timing right before a major visit from the secretary of state from the us to china. if, if this was deliberate, then i'm not sure the timing was, was well thought of. and void from the university of coal and colorado boulder. thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you. and that is our time. but make sure to stay in touch, follow our team on twitter at c, w news or myself at nicole underscore. florida for now though, from the entire team here on the day. thanks for spending part of your day with us . and i hope to see you again tomorrow, with
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