i have become part of daily life in south africa. now locals are looking to the sun for a solution. and india knight as ambitious plans to boost its defense exports will get announces from our correspondence in delhi. this is dw business i'm k, ferguson. welcome. how green is hydrogen? that's the question. the european commission needs to resolve as a resume talks on renewable energy targets to day out. issue is whether or not hydrogen to riot from nuclear power, it can be just designated as a renewable france heavily reliant on atomic energy has been lobbying hard in favor of bath. but germany, i'm spain oppose it. the french government is especially angry about this because it says it approved plans for a hydrogen pipeline between spain and france on the basis that it's hydrogen would get that renewable label. it's important because classifications of its kind to con effect. the eligibility for state 8 nat european

commission has issued a proposal to solve the problem to find out what it is and who's happy about it. let's bring in detail to report her louise and louise, welcome along. thank you for calling. before we get into the details, maybe you can explain to us why is this issue of how to designate hydrogen. so important, a hydrogen is seen as the clean energy for the future in europe. and it is something that can be burned and the only by product that's left behind is water. so this would be great with regards to combating climate change. the issue with it is that it's quite energy intensive to me. so obviously, if the electricity being used to make it comes from renewable, it's green, it's great. you know, we can use it. if it is coming from fossil fuels, then it makes the, the hydrogen less, less clean actually. but there is also another option and that is nuclear. and that is what france wants to look out for the future or to bring in to the energy mix

yet. so tell us a little bit about why this is so controversial. i know france and germany are on different sides of this question. what's going on there? so basically, germany has spent the last decade trying to move itself away from nuclear, shutting down. it's nuclear plants actually this year. that's the plan for france, however, release quite heavily on nuclear energy. so 70 percent of its energy mixed comes from nuclear or its electricity mix. this means at that a, b, the hydrogen at that at the front would like to be making. they want you clear to be included in that. and this is something that they are pushing for, whereas germany is, is pushing against it. and germany, it once, you know, makes nuclear a little bit, i'm sorry, germany has had to nuclear. they are moving away from it because of the issue with regards to things like fukushima and should opal and the issue of nuclear disasters

. but also, you know, because nuclear actually, while it's green in some ways and that, you know, it's not as common intensive as, as fossil fuels, for example. it also has the issue of nuclear waste being left behind. okay, sure. so the european commission has actually come up by the proposal. now, what is it and what is it saying? and is it a bit of a fudge? what would you say? so the european commission doesn't actually want to designate nuclear derived hydrogen as green. but, but they are willing to say that it would be a little bit low carbon hydrogen. this would open it up to the possibility of france being allowed to, to use state subsidies and things like that. and it is, you know, great for france given the fact that it has such high nuclear energy in its mix. huh. so this is kind of the compromise that they are reaching and france sees it as a bit of a when actually and the european union has incredibly ambitious climate. targets

wants to be as climate neutral by 2050. would you say it is on track to achieve that goal? well, the problem that it's had is actually that in, like you said, it wants to be climate neutral by 2050 gas. was a huge pot of moving in that direction with the war in ukraine and russia, having cut off gas to europe, that has caused a lot of problems for the, for the continent. the u then has been looking for other options and hydrogen is a big part of that. so they want to move in that direction so that they can get back on track to making sure that they can meet the paras agreement goals to reach copy neutrality by 2050. ok, so there is an awful lot at stake there. louise osborne. thank you. so much for breaking all down for us now let's say with the issue of energy and had to south africa where millions of people are struggling amid what the government calls a state of disaster over its crumbling power infrastructure. now,

severe flooding has added to the crisis in the country. for many south africans, rolling blackouts have become part of daily life. that this has prompted cold for a switch away from coal fired power plants. but the vested interest in the business make the push for change, very difficult. ah, south africa's economy is powered by coal, but critics say, this comes out of massive cost. defense is dead and put into the killer, and therefore government needs to add and we need to gently 80 percent of the country's energy is produced by 12 coal fired power stations. in the south african cold belt in 2019, greenpeace declared the area to be one of the most polluted on earth. ever dcsf by you car suffering every day we can't breathe. would you even ask yourself whether you're going to wake up alive? he, lemme better it will only become a reality if less, coal is burnt,

but the industry employes almost a $100000.00 people, weaning itself off coal will have dramatic consequences. promised masula, however, believes that a transition to green energy is vital. she runs will carnie. a local environmental n g o. v county is based on the outskirts of immolate cleaning. the angio installed a solar system on its own roof to show that power production can be taken into the hands of the community. solar can be an opportunity for local job creation and healthier environments according to vio county. well, that's a vision that my beula propagates with the communities you hutton persevere lemme changes, because for us we are speaking of community 3 that to one. and any that will be a community lead, where it will give space, especially for the young people to create a to manufacture for themselves. to make sure they put their desolate peavey in the

community, rooftops. but can solar really replace power plants and how can communities financed their own green power. ready thomas, some new new deals with these questions. he works for groundwork, an organization that advocates for a just energy transition with new and better jobs, social justice and poverty eradication. i think um we part of all confusion price in a perfect balance between a develop men and that i to help. so it's not in either or situation. we can develop the economy at the same time taking care of to fulfill for me, quite noisy, the transition cannot come quick enough. after picking up her daughter from kindergarten, she returns home. her electricity has gone. rolling outages are affecting the neighborhood up to 3 times

a day. a bitter irony that those suffering from the pollution of the ones being cut from power nay to some of the other girl will business stories making these germans are falling out of love with cash with 4 out of 5 payment transactions. now involving cards that according to the euro card system, institution in frank, 1st going appreciation for capital payments was helped along by hygiene concerns during the pandemic and no appears to a field, a longer term change in house. ford has a nice plans to slash 3800 jobs in europe over the next 3 years. the cuts are to be focused in the areas of product development and administration. the automaker sites rising costs on the need for a leaner structure of the pivots to electric vehicles. most of those costs will be in germany, and the u. k. m. japan's economy has returned to growth, expanding 0.6 percent in the 4th quarter. the upward movement was driven by more

inbound tourism on to stronger private consumption. unless however, we're still disappointed they'd been expecting on even stronger revenge. it's to indiana. we're a huge air show is currently underway in the city of bangalore, hosted by the defense ministry, the 5 day ero india event is a month of spectacle, aimed at closing deals and showing off the best of india's aviation industry. the country have long been one of the world's largest in puerto is of defense equipment, but now it's looking to expand exports to with prime minister to rent, or modi pledging to wiffle annual defense exports up to 5 $1000000000.00 over the next 2 years. to find out more about these plans. i've talked to tara cars. okay. in delhi. sorry. this is a very bold goal. how well poised is india to develop a domestic defense industry of the scale?

well, i mean, the potential is definitely there, kate, of it. as you right, you mentioned in guys more commonly known as among the was biggest defense importers, air, but it does exporter horst or smaller defense products and are, according to claims, mainly as defense, ministry. these exports are raising by over 50 percent every year. so there's definitely a potential there for the kind of quotes that prime minister movie has talked about . are these export items that are being sent to many country? these include a protective items, petrol, vessels of light helicopters, and at least 70 percent of this is coming from india's private sector. get that. how are we to live in a very insecure world, obviously, but he's going to buy him. he has a $5000000000.00 worth of defense exports. but you'll be surprised. gate of the defense ministry really claims that there are over 75 countries across the world that are buying from india. these include countries which are much smaller,

defense needs than india, to with the big guns ab, as, as, as it, me, of these countries include smaller ones like more leaves, or even near bol malicious. but these also include countries with big defense budgets of their own, of lake france, lake, russia, lake, israel, lake, even egypt. so there are many countries that are buying, these are smaller products that india is exporting kate said the market does appear to be there at our kite k in delhi. thank you very much. and moving from air to space travel, boeing has announced it's opening a new production area in new orleans. it's our crews will work on new rockets used enough as our to miss program. they'll hold 40 percent more cargo, including observations hot lights and space telescopes in november now for launch the 1st mission of the ottoman it found to launch the 1st woman on the 1st person of color on the left. and the remainder of the top is no story we're following for

you this our, the european commission says hydrogen to ride from nuclear power. it can be considered low carbon are this to be light in the continents energy mix. the e u is planning on producing and importing 10000000 tons of renewable hydrogen by 2034. we have time for, for more you can always check i d, w dot com slash business. we're on the deal. the news youtube channel as well to find is there for me on the team here in berlin. it's the vice ticket with ah, with

ah, for do you like good. do you want it? okay. buckle up, put the pedal to the metal metal. right? ah. read in 30 minutes on d w. a lot in common. can this become love? i don't got book an eye on me.

a 10 artificial intelligence. loneliness high. i love stories from the future. in 75 minutes on d w. oh, hello guys. this is the 77 percent the platform for africa. you beat issues and share ideas. you know, on this channel we're not afraid to talk to young people clearly have the solution . the future belongs to the 77 percent every weekend on d w. d and he's upgraded, getting ahead, using tech as our documentary series founders, valley, it's africa. meet the founders, empowering their continent through digital innovation,

transforming work health and living conditions in their country, and inspiring the world with their ideas. founders valley africa watch now on deducted documentary. ah ah, business, the dublin years live from berlin, ukraine's western allies say they're doing all they can to keep kids supplied with ammunition. data defense ministers, meeting in brussels with ukraine's other international military back us to consider keeps a feel for more heavy weapons, including fighter jet.