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[000:00:00;00] ah, would you know how to operate? one of these now, no reason to feel bad instruction on a leper to tank usually takes trained military personnel months. this week, ukrainian soldiers, many of whom had never even held a gun before russia's invasion a year ago, started their crash course on the heavy weaponry pledged by the west. they only have a couple of weeks to get the hang of it as a feared russian offensive may be imminent. we're already underway. the tanks haven't yet arrived at the front lines, but nato is already weighing. it's next steps at a meeting in brussels. the alliance's defense ministers are discussing more military aid, including fighter jets to beef up ukraine's defense capabilities. because they are convinced the kremlin is only preparing for further escalation um, nickel,
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further him, berlin, and this is the day ah, nato. and his girlish and has never been strand roshan is now a global brian on receive and all sorts of stuff. the president with prepaid for peace and the world remains inspired by ukrainian bravery and resilience. we don't need to motivate the soldiers. it's all. in fact, we have to hold them back a bit from and still betting that it can wait us out and they are paying an enormous price on the battlefield. we heard that these modern weapons will help them strike back against russia stronger than before. in short, russia has lost. ah, also on the day check, footballer jak of yankee comes out as gay. europe's 1st active top tier player to
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open up about almost sexuality hopes to pave the way for a more inclusive sport. like everybody else. i also want to lose my life in freedom with fears. with bridge and wireless overlap. i'm almost social, and i no longer want to hide myself. the welcome to the show. for months there had been speculation about russia preparing a fresh offensive in eastern ukraine. now it seems like the renewed onslaught is already underway. as a green face is intensified attacks, its allies are meeting again to coordinate further support for keith natal members and other allies of ukraine are gathered and brussels for talks aimed at providing more weapons to the war torn country. at the moment, ukraine is on the back foot on parts of the eastern front, at least with russia, claiming success around the city of most of the experts say
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a russian victory and by the moon would not have a strategic impact on the war. he has fought tooth and nail to keep it. the battle for the city has become an example of why ukraine means newer, better weapons ticks are among the weapons key campaigned for most heavily. on tuesday, norway pledged another aid, adding to dozens, already pledged by the west of the conflict approaches would may well become a critical phase of the war. those tanks are getting closer to making an appearance on the battlefield. it will be used. alexander phenomena reports from poland where ukrainians are training on the german, made leper to leverage to tanks in action showing what they are capable of at a military site. in western poland. the 1st ukranian soldiers have started to train here fish of shadowed ski. it's one of their instructors, she's only a her. we don't need to motivate the soldiers at all. in fact,
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we have to hold them back a bit to let them learn a bit by bit. i'm over to the book. they are highly motivated and want to learn everything with motor needed to operate or the tanks over my gun upon yet much deviated. normally the training takes 2 months, but instructors here say they can cut it in half. the polish government has been one of the staunchest supporters of ukraine calling time and again for deliveries of more advanced weapons. president angie, daughter himself has come from war. so to visit the training center level just now, we hope that these modern weapons will help them strike back against russia. stronger than before the people considered one of the best tanks in the west arsenal. the leopard, too, is also one of the most widely. yes. that makes him such a good fit for keith. experts say tanks and known wouldn't be a game change on the battlefield,
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but they could help ukraine to go on the offensive again. only days ago, major varden hot dog and his tank brigade were fighting on the front lines in donnette screeching. now they are here in poland. were yet the girls emir sure. i think these tanks will be a great helicopter and great support for our army reserve would at the game were the 3 manion luxury army. when we learn how to operate them and begin using them in battle, but among them were your way home. this will have a big will handler her. yet we should, they were the dues of villages. factories to ukraine has been waiting for western tanks for months. now. the 1st ones are expected to arrive on the front lines at the end of march of more on the military situation. let's bring and justin chrome. he's a military analyst and ceo of the intelligence consultancy sibley. welcome to the devil you. i'd like to talk about the tanks heading for ukraine in a minute. but 1st,
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what is your understanding of the situation in and around tonight? obviously the, the city is increasingly coming under pressure. otherwise, you've been saying that a weeks, if not months, the russians oversee have launched their overall offensive. it's kind of slow, but steady. that progress is. it's slow, but they are closing on that city and they've been taking villages north and south of it. it's not fully cut off, but oversee that carrying on, focusing on the area i'm and the aim throughout, i think has been to try and get ukraine to bring more reserves into the fight around back in as much as that town has any strategic value. but that's anything the russians can really do is bring the ukranian, then trying cause and casualties. but as we've seen, ukraine's not had to commit all its reserves. they have people training in poland, bad people training in the u. k. still. so the russians haven't succeeded in the objective of stopping the crane army from being able to generate forces. so none
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the less, while they might take the city, they probably failed and the main objective it was to destroy the ukrainians there and delete combat power from them. if that area and exception are ukrainian forces on the back foot across the eastern front at this point to varying degrees of on the back. so i think that's it. a negative way of putting was a slow loss of ground. ukraine is losing ground and then making the russians pay for the territory that taking that's very much ukrainian strategy at this point. i think it's make the rush and lead out for every mile. they take hope to absorb this . russian offensive limit the losses and territory made, but the rail, a match by both sides. this point is try me, write down what their abas re has they want to cause casualties on each other to a high extent. they want to destroy me equipment on both sides. the aim really of fighting one thought of the other to
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a standstill. so ukraine applying that as well by falling back trade space and get russian casualties effectively in return, every field would line building ukraine loses it was russia to believe that until it reaches the point that the russians could no longer be on the offensive anywhere . and that's when this new equipment the ukraine is looking at. that's when they won't match when to the fight in a month or 2, given the opportunity strike back retake that church. he quickly like. we've seen ukraine during the past is what we're seeing right now. what the russians are doing in and around by mood already this large scale offensive because we always talk about how the value of the mood is really questionable. so is this really what international analysts and the ukranian government have been warning about? that could be more to come. i mean, i think what we were never going to see in this offensive was the checkered flag, drop and tanks go speeding into the distance and the russian side. the capability
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of the russian military is very much less than it was a year ago in terms of individual competence. they might have more people, navigation ukraine, but the average standard is lower. they were able to train the units and these time before they've now had to re equip them retrain them in more time. they haven't reached the standard they were at a year ago. and that's all gonna limit what russia can do in terms of more ambitious offenses. this time, they could still generate some surprises and we're looking towards sol, keith potentially as never were rushes, gathering more equipment. but overall, i think what we're seeing is the sort of a tight of offensive, if you like a steady pressure increasing from russia, but fundamentally that capabilities remain small and it's focused on capturing, as we said, the field at a time a would a time. i think what we're not going to see is tanks from the russian side of bouncing 1020 kilometers and capturing large sways of territory. at the moment i didn't know limited to this,
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the steamroller pressure. and you had what we see now. today in brussels, we saw western allies talk about ukraine's spring counter offensive. now we are a little way from spring still, and presumably they're talking about once those tank tanks arrive that they have pledged and that the ukrainians are now training on, but of russia intensifies its attacks. now ukraine might be in for a dramatic losses. isn't there too much of a time lag between the western promises of weapons and ukraine actually receiving them? i think anyone in ukraine would say that they needed these months ago? i did that too late. i think of course, he credit of light the sooner like much more that they've received sooner than they've got it. i, i think they should be able to absorb what the russians are throwing them again. if you look the, the russian strategy in as much as that has the one round. what was to try and draw tens of thousands more people from the ukranian military in to the end of the town
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. and you cry never quite had to resort to that again. they spared people trading that you just heard in the previous segment, a tank crews are on the front line just a week or 2 ago now imposed and training and re equipping. if ukraine was in ready to last rates to cope with russian pressure at the moment, that wouldn't be happening. so the fact that they're able to still rotate their units back to the front line. yes, is desperate fighting. it's extremely hard. but ukraine is still under such pressure that it can't prepare for its next move at this time. so i don't think it is too late. i think for someone on the front line right now and, but they might say it was, but it's all a matter of perception where we're sitting. and certainly at the moment, the anticipation that we have is that ukraine should be able to roll with the russian offensive. they will almost certainly lose territory. it's a matter of how much they pay. russia pay each bit of that church, they lose. and then when russia has exhausted itself, that is the time for ukraine to push back hard and they should in theory, achieve much better results that way. now they have to hold this offensive. when
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that's the question, what we all have at the moment is precisely, you know, how bad will this get? yeah. your a tank commander and herself. how are these western tangs like the german leopards or the british challenger is going to make a difference. you know, i've operated both i'm, i'm fond of both they are much better vehicle for with will than the russian equivalent. so the, the average russian times at the moment that facing russia does have a smaller number of better vehicles, but the majority are old ones and the western tanks leopard to and the challenge to, especially with designed specifically to be better than the russian peers by a significant margin and we've seen that in complex round the world. they are better protected, they're better engineered. they have better fall control systems. they're more lethal in admin, the myriad of other things to do to make them better vehicles. they are more technically complex ones. ukrainians have been operating, but again, as you had in the segments before this,
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they all sending experience crews. they spend experience crews to parlance right frontline. that's any experience who's the u. k. and the train is in both countries . just saying how well motivated and how experience ukrainian crews saw that, as we just happen to hold them back, almost learn from the technical aspects because they're just very keen to use the equipment. they know how to use it to fight. they need to learn a bit more about how to maintain and get the most out of it. but really they're ready to go back with them. so it's a great piece of equipment. it's scott, good crews coming for who know what they're doing. they just have to learn a bit to make it more endurable in the field because the logistic trade in the maintenance trading that comes west and tank normal, complicates and expensive. but overall fantastic pieces of equipment. they're not going to win a battle on their own. they're not designed for that. no, no, the visual weapon will of them and maybe a nuclear weapon, but they are really, really good. what ukrainian army once,
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which is something that can hit hard and push the russians back in a couple of months. i'm just in crump of civil lien. always a pleasure speaking to you. thank you so much for your time. thank you. ah. numbers are staggering. at least 10 entire cities reduced to rubble over 40000 people dead. 26000000. an urgent need of assistance. according to the united nations, the earthquakes and syrian turkey amount to the worst natural disaster in the region in a century. a week after the event, many aid organizations are now starting to shift their focus from search and rescue to caring for the people who have lost it all. but emergency crews haven't given up on the search for survivors and people are still being discovered alive. more than a week trapped under rubble. 17 year old mohammed is pulled out alive and got him on my dash in turkey, nor
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d at the center of the devastating earthquake. he scary to an ambulance who hm. its brother, becky, is rescued soon after. but hopes of finding more survivors are fading fast. rescue teams are scaling back operations to focus in both turkey in syria is shifting instead to helping survivors. first with immediate relief, like food watering shelter, and then assisting them long term. the rescue phase is dragging live people out from the rubble from funding those who died to the rebel that's coming to a close. and now the humanitarian phase. the urgency of providing shelter psycho social care, food, schooling of a sense of the future for these people. that's our obligation ago, syria's infrastructure was already battered from over a decade of civil war. in some areas, the earthquake brought total devastation,
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liking government controlled aleppo. people are waiting for shelter, tents and blankets, but mistrust of the regime runs deep. many fear the 8 coming into the country will not reach them. serious government has so far only allowed 8 to rebel areas through one border crossing public foot, but in an unprecedented move. but it says it's reopening 2 additional land crossings with turkey. syria supported the entry of humanitarian aid into the region through old porcelain cross points with ever from inside syria or across the border. for the period of 3 months is displaced, syrians living in dire conditions and the rebel health northwest can only hope the promises kept sunk own shallow mobile. in turkey,
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the disaster destroyed 10 cities. at least 40000 buildings collapsed or were severely damaged. many now need to be demolished, turkeys government has been accused of a slow response to the quake didn't a relief and long term reconstruction are set to be a major challenge, multiple service along with housing, the millions who are suddenly left homeless. our correspondent jack pack sent the support from got the antenna in southern turkey were thousands, have been left hundreds that he is a municipal park in central, gassy, and tap is a southern turkish city of about 2000000 people in as you can see, a number of tents have been erected here to house refugees who had to flee their homes in the earthquake now many of the homes that they have to, that they had to flee with ones up on this hill just here or in the local area around here. and essentially,
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the authorities haven't been able to tell these people that their homes are safe, yet they haven't been checked or the homes are not safe. but in a lot of cases as well, the people are to traumatize and too worried to return back to their homes. fearing the structural damage that may have taken place during the earthquakes. now, one of the big issues in this camp is accessed, attends this serial family told us just now that they had to wait 2 days in order to get attend. many people have had to wait many, many more days than that. there are quite a lot of syrians here. people that fled the war in the past 5 to 10 years and made a home in this part of turkey and then have had to flee those homes once again, due to the earthquake that hit this area just over a week ago. there are also local turks and kurdish people living here as well. now, while this part might not be an ideal place and certainly wasn't designed to house this kind of 10 city, there are some facilities here that make it
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a relatively good place for them to have sat there thought. for instance, there are toilet blocks already here that people can use as a library just on the way over there that has been turned into a makeshift clinic. now, one of the big concerns for the people that are living in these tens, especially from, for the ones that aren't actually from this part of gas. the an tap is that within 60 days, they will have to return back to the local municipality to register and they don't know what that will be, whether they'll be able to return to these tens afterwards. but the ones with the tensor actually the lucky ones for everyone else hasn't managed to get attend yet that sleeping on the floors in these buildings and the situation that isn't very nice for them as they wait for a slightly more permanent place to live. there are 8 organizations here, providing food and water medicine. but there's a lot of fear for the people here. they just don't know what's gonna happen in the
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coming days and weeks. oh, it's valentine's day and millions of people around the world are celebrating romance and love should this man jakob young to be one of them. this must be a very special one for him because it's the 1st valentine's day after the check football or let the world know he loves men. when the spart, prog midfielder came out as gay on monday he joined just a handful of professional male footballers who've done so before retiring from the game. he's also the 1st active international player to do so. john to made the announcement in an emotional video he published on twitter. let's take a look. i'm going to like everybody else. i've my strengths, my weaknesses. i for my friends. i vigil, which i've been doing it as best i can. for years i would share this
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process and bush and like everybody else. i also on my life and freedom for years with bridge on it would violence over love. i'm almost social and i no longer wants to hide myself for this let's bring in jim doe and he's the founder of pride of iron. that's the official l g b t q i a supporters group at the english premiership club, west him mr. dylan. welcome to the day and tell me how important is jacobi young toes announcement leaving. so you have to me, i think is very important because it's another contributing factors to assure that the tide has truly turned on. this issue. you know, we've seen a number of people around the football industry coming out, you know, if the is referees in the officials, then we had just a value come out. we had jake, the news on to murray. and i think now we're seeing that more and more people feel
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comfortable. i think every person who comes along sets another boundary in terms of creating a safe environment, making people realize that, you know, the other side isn't apps as bad as i 1st thought. and hopefully willing tools, a place where, you know, these announcement won't happen because actually will become accepted. that's where we want to get to. we will want to stop talking about this issue. but i just have to get the 1st kind of couple of hurdles and went on away. exactly what does that tell us about the culture that for says and football that yeah, come young to feel the need to come out the way he did and that we're reporting it as news media. i feel for what he said, because it, it struck a chord with me that i just wondered if my life, you know, any thoughts about being a professionally talked about, you know, not, not having to hide. and as always, part of you, no matter what profession you're in, the if you're not out, if you are hiding that part of yourself, you can't be a 100 percent. you got the 100 percent in your job. you can't give
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a 100 percent of to yourself. it is always hard your energy that's committed to hiding a truth. so i think you know that he had to kind of do that now. so i think a lot people in that position feel that they have to make these announcements because i think they need to prepare the public, you know, give them that heads up before they come out and say, you know, i'm, i'm, they're comfortable myself and i want you to be comfortable with it. and football is the biggest for it in europe and has a very small number of openly gay male players. why is that? i just think it's, this is become such an issue over the years i think is taken, you know, these, these brave people to step forward and make those 1st tentative steps. and hopefully what they show is that actually it's, it's not the problem that people thought perhaps the, you know, the, the reactions, people are getting on the whole, i think more positive. and like, i say, i think is setting a precedent. i think maybe there's the culture of for who is often seen as the culture of society, the through
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a magnifying glass. and i think sometimes some of the social problems we have can seem exaggerated book communities like always when you go to the surface and you start speaking to your average every day, full support. so you find that most people don't care. that's kind of thing. you know, i think it's one of those problems where you know that there's a loud minority perhaps actually majority of people go with, you know, what, what like i said they, you know, just let people in the lives. yeah. you say the time has turned and how entrenched is toxic masculinity and homophobia in today's football culture, from the stands all the way to club owners and organizations like fi fi, for example. i don't know about explicit homophobia. think it's actually almost insidious and soft. so you don't hear as many explicit hung fiber chances you used there, but there are people pushing back on some of the things that you know, people do raised as a chart that's often used about chelsea that people don't agree is homophobic. and
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this become a bit of discourse around that, but i think on the whole it's one of those is one of those things. the often it seems like there's a bigger problem there is because unfortunately is the psychological aspects of where, you know, people start singing the song, other people joined in and if you're a gay player and a song comes out, child that has a, a homophobic, an edge to hear that so the amplifier, the perception of the problem a, do you think it's a hurdle? it's an image problem that for needs to go over by like i say, i think underneath the surface, the culture of football, the culture supposes i don't think is intrinsically homophobic. why do you think we need a culture shift? turned ellen is working for that culture shift as the founder of pride of irons, the official l d v d q i a support group at west am in england. thank you so much for your time. thank you. and that is our time for today. we'll be back tomorrow in the meantime. next door to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch. you can follow our team on
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