tv The Great Meat Debate Deutsche Welle February 15, 2023 6:30pm-7:01pm CET
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ah, the status quo part one of our documentary series, the great meek debate on d. w. ah. what secrets lie behind these walls discover new adventures in 360 degrees and explore fascinating world heritage sites. d w world heritage 360. get the app now with ah, eating animals eating animal products is one of the biggest, if not the biggest moral problem of our time. 9 out of 10 people in europe eat meat. i call it
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a wonderful problem. the wonderful problem because this problem has in itself the solution to many other problems to satisfy the world's appetite for meat. we have created a gigantic global industry. we kill and eat more animals in a year than the number of human beings who ever lived on the planet from whenever we crawled out of the swamps with devastating consequences for the earth's ecosystem and for billions of living beings. thus light must be the suffering that we inflict on animals. we can't even imagine it, not in our worst fantasies, not in the most horrific horror movies often. and it's not as if we're unaware of it. 73 percent of germans, and as many as 82 percent of french people reject the modern form of animal husbandry. so why do we live with a system that no one actually wants? this series searches for an answer. we tend to assume that only vegans and vegetarians follow a belief system, but the, the reason we may learn to pigs,
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but not dogs, for example, because we do follow a belief system the we must confront the ethical questions that concern the core of our humanity. to be all moral beings comes from having been trained millennium through hunting. the co operative the new and to take social relationship seriously danced on in. where does the suffering come from? when was the 1st time a living being felt something? the story starts out a little over a half a 1000000000 years ago with see scott high, the ocean floor. it's called my cro. beyond that, our search takes us from the origins of the earth to a future in which meat is created without animals. media is being prepared in one tag, and then it feeds these 2 huge vessels. they can produce 500 kilograms of me.
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this is essentially a cower day in a room that is more or less the same. most people is living. it ends with the question with our children and grandchildren grow up in a beacon world. if we don't destroy ourselves, we could do here literally and could be around 410000 hundreds of 1000 millions of years longer. so can you, can you imagine that all this time we will continue to keep teaching animals to know at some point is going to stop and if it's not to century, which will be the next i use
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our journey begins in present day beau holt. in the german region of vestments, talent, jack lean, house is a factory farmer. thus, equally until i learned animal husbandry was socially accepted at the time. all of a sudden that's wrong. one of emerson's fudge squan his farm, $6500.00 pigs are born, fattened and sent to slaughter every year. or if it is a mustang. and this here is the fattening stable. this is the last station for our pigs with you in terms of animal welfare. this corresponds to a level 2 bond tickets, which is now a standard requirement. we have no point 854 square meters per pig. i'm it on all the number of the bond seems very full when they are lying down, but now they can move around to the they have this nicely back there. you can see the manure area right. this here is the eating area, right? there's the drinking area that so the pigs also structure the pan themselves of the
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animals like 99 percent of their peers spend their entire lives in doors and gain about 850 grams every day. the most valuable and for that are fattening pig lives around a $180.00 days. and the pigs in nature have a life expectancy of 15 to 16 years. so it is still a very early stage falling on. a deaf custodian, a full grown pig weighs about 250 kilograms, but fattening the animal for that long is not worth it. we integrated foot on every day, the pig needs through to lift just like we humans to see the longer an animal stays in the stable and all you spend on maintenance alone, the ratio of kilograms of free lose to kilograms of me gains is still ok up to weight of a 120 kilograms. okay. after that the ratio becomes negativity, right? modern fattening is a highly engineered process. there is a pre fattening mid fattening and finishing feed. they differ in protein and an energy content. at any given time,
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the computer knows how many pigs are in each pen, how old they are and which feed mixture they require lids. and with this, i can choose the amount of how much of the feed goes into the soil out on the on the truck will come with the feed tomorrow. the latest on the feed enters the barn automatically through a pipe system. theses are collected under the slotted floor and transported away. as i found out is about everything that goes in and out of the animal runs automatically. and all that was necessary to be able to continue to be a farmer to continue to keep animals. yeah, the price pressure in recent years has been the we is a farm. now have to have $3.00 to $4000.00 pigs to generate an income. and i'm come, service of margins in the industry are minimal, and the fluctuating prices are mainly determined by the large slaughter companies. there is a certain dependence because we don't have much of a choice. i can no longer choose between 10 different slaughterhouses,
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instructor. there are ultimately 2 big ones for me. i goes in, there are a few small ones, i know, but most of them are already a capacity. so for now they've been, i'm dependent on these to, to pick up my pamphlet. in the past, almost every municipality had its own slaughter house. but today the 10 largest farms slaughter 80 percent of the pigs across the country. they dictate the precise standards with which livestock must comply is trying to once much prevent power from the pigs measured by alter phone, which means the dead slaughtered animal is pulled through. a probe full with a whole caucus is measured by ultrasound degree. but when we then receive a certain number of points per kilogram of cutlet for kilogram a fillet per kilogram of ham. and the points and then converted into money is an ultimately you could say we are basically suppliers of cutlets that fit into the all the packaging on those campuses are. the animals must be neither too small nor too large for the slaughter house standards. if a ham weighs more than 21.49 kilograms, there are deductions, and we did ethical see the one that's running away, that one is ready to go,
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so he will leave my life before shipping. the animals ready for slaughter have to be carefully selected. and i that i think i because the home is one of the decisive factor is that you might, i always have to stand behind the pig to inspect it. usually i listen to music while i'm doing it because you really have to concentrate on the animal when i'm going to see which one has it and which one doesn't happen. and when i have one, he gets a line on the back and then knows what's going on with it. okay. he doesn't know what's happening. but we know this takes a lot of time if it takes me about half an hour to make a selection. because that ultimately, this is going to sound really bad. yeah. but it's like a harvest. it's what we've spent whole for year cultivating and nurturing with us. and if i were to sell it at the wrong time, any off, i would have much lower proceed along because of all the factors i have to take into account, it could. so that's why you need a lot of time for it. that's the way it is. is as i go for the know the entire life of the animal is designed around putting the right amount of fat and muscle on the
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right part of the body is getting closer. look, i thought correct this, this classic term species appropriate. and the little we can never achieve that has a wild boar lives in the forest of the ellipse, freely lives in small groups. that would be species appropriate to what we can't offer that here. high stuff. when you're with the pigs every day, then you can sense if the animals are doing well, considering the situation, they not taking anything away from the animal because it doesn't know any different . if an animal lived outside on the pasture, and i looked it up after a year on it than it may miss, will have this relationship to the outside with what they don't know that with us once they we grew up here in the country. i couldn't imagine living in the city. most of the city child is used to the cities. it's the same game. it's a very extreme comparison, of course. but i think that's kind of how you have to look at it.
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but it's misty, one that chick fil a. no one is born, an animal abuser or an animal exploiter. you grow into it, you adapt, you get none. that's why, even though such people are my opponents in the fight to end animal exploitation, which i don't feel hatred time, 1 o'clock at night, somewhere in southern germany, the animal rights group. so co 2 shots is on a mission fleet which moon and his team have set out to uncover the scandalous conditions in factory farming. widely light, we want to show people that it's not just the exception. it's the true face of an industry which does not show people it's ugly side to side to night. they're on their way to a church farm to find out if the animal welfare laws are being violated. when the animals are transported to the slaughter house. if they don't slam, the door shall not
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and so forth. so, so call signs up banana, apple lemon. let's do a test one, test the toner. feel now that he couldn't the look for clues as to when the next transport will take place lemon to banana or clear. tens of thousands of turkeys are kept in sheds. the law allows $58.00 kilos per square meter. that's about 3 males or 5 females. if we keep to the left, there's a motion detector. life in the barn follows the rhythm of the machines. the ventilation and feeding system are deafening lout. the smell is accurate. no frantic movements or noises i sent you this. marvin smith, who tom,
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every time i see a turkey farm, i find it touching because i know what great intelligent animals turkeys annoy. totally curious, they have social behavior. and here they crammed together in a shed like this. i just feel sorry, 4 nights. newborn chicks weigh less than 100 grams. within a few weeks they'll weigh 15 to 20 kilograms. somebody lot lives in the cellphone or by the time they're ready for slaughter, that's also such a horrible term and they still baby animals and as we eat, well i don't but people eat baby animals. sonia a turkey can live 15 years and we kill them at 5 months. they're actually bloated, chiclare, to cooper, the toner, vista to him. despite the young slaughter age, 110th of turkeys die before they reached the slaughter wait. from the consequences of extreme breeding and husbandry. cat o'connor cadaver bin.
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some of the dead animals have terrible injuries. to hang the that animal has its guts hanging out the back. their feet are infected from walking on excrement. their feathers are torn off and their bodies are littered with wounds. is it ma, here you can also see that the beak is much shorter at the top than the bottom. that's mutilation young, a town with unable to forage for food on the ground, like their wild ancestors fattened turkeys exhibit massive behavioral disorders such as mutual feather, pecking, or cannibalism. almost every chicks life begins with the removal of part of the upper beak. the procedure does not eliminate the disturbed behavior, but with the shorter beaks, the birds do less damage. does this i think guns club a fish dorski. this is actually a clear violation of the animal welfare act which prohibits mutilation. is
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a specific paragraph that states this clearly, you're not allowed to cut off testicles cut off, tails cut off ears. live grind of teeth shall cut off the beak yet it's done again . and again, there are millions of exemption our na mccadney mccullen, recovery form for free dish moon. this is just an example of how the financial interests of the industry override animal welfare concerns with muffin to our little this is a factory farm. if i had the chance to go through it, i'd find many more violations. this footage was captured at a different turkey farm. and wish telephone diflucan leading to the show and i found animals lying on their backs unable to turn around and being suffocated by their own pictorial muscles. i found animals with bad injuries. this turkeys with picked out eyes a common i've seen that all too often vanish. i simply cannot fathom how such a thing can be allowed. there are thousands of launch bombs in germany glitch
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hundreds of thousands worldwide 100. in principle, they all looked the same. dempsey of cindy, alec ly, shows fortunate the animal rights activists have accomplished their mission. they now know when they can film the animals being transported to the slaughter house, which will try so. so it's likely that the transporter will come on monday or tuesday because they are pretty much ready. but even if they find evidence of animal welfare violations, they won't be able to change the animals living conditions quickly. this is the theme essence. why, but i shall get tired. i am a claw. the criminalists talk to them. the system is divided into 2 areas. short. on the one hand, there are a clear criminal structures claim which are in violation of the law must and, and on the other, there is legalized crime at all whether in peak fattening, fuel turkey, farming, my chicken farming. good. actually, if you read the animal welfare act, we'd find that none of these is permissible to booked,
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but it was legalized under pressure, from the lobby, it's tolerated. and it's our job to keep putting our finger in the wound and say, what we have here. yeah, keeping a pig and 0.75 square meters, vot routinely cutting the peak of turkeys, what he putting a sao in a narrow cage where she can't even turn around and can't training a cow. it's all forbidden. cool. and so kitten, i english is thus alice for born tissue because that the animal welfare act also states for example, that that animals should be kept in species appropriate conditional. clearly a p kept in less than one square meter. meet on a slash law is not a b, she's appropriate when it's so bad that if the animal welfare act, we're really enforced by mass animal husbandry would end at once. the other, the mustn't you hold on with irish luck, a lead it the numbers produced by the global factory farming industry are so large. they are difficult to comprehend. just since you to in
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9200 cattle have been killed on the planet. every 2nd 9 more are added in the same amount of time. 19400 turkeys, 33300 sheep and goats. 42200 pigs. 105000 ducks, and 2300000 chickens had been slaughtered all in the last 16 minutes and 41 seconds . if we stacked on top of one another, all the animals we kill and eat in a year. we would reach the moon and back 40 times, fish die in such large numbers that we only measure them in tons. ah, let's get out. you go, girls, time for milking. i didn't, of course i do like grazing in the lower odor valley national park. these cows lived the way marketing would have us believe is the norm. any ellie, come rona mara, that's it. yes line. on your udette's key. who knows?
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each of her 170 cows by name calls herself a cow whisperer. and if he ask, he did i just enmity flagger? many people ask me, isn't it much too cold for the cows or when it rains, shouldn't they have a stable inch? no, that's what we humans think. because we have such the thin skin and always have to put on our rain jacket. jack and cattle have leather jacket and in winter it is also well lined with fat. yeah, i think and yes, i think it's good for animals to be exposed to the elements and that we don't over protect that sheet and ah, each cow here has 10000 square meters on conventional farms. they get 2.5. in fact, on your red ski does almost everything differently. nicole, the cow doesn't want to walk on concrete. if it has the choice between the road and a grass trip next to it, it will walk on the grass strap it wants to run on the grass and not on the concrete where one can pile the craft together. nice lady can in the dairy industry,
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there's an unchangeable law of nature to get milk. you need a pregnant cow. cows need to give birth every year in order to continually produce milk. they are separated from their caps. ringback shortly after birth, often the mothers call for their young for days i live on kensington. every parent can empathize either. how cool would it be to be told in the hospital? okay, we have to take your baby away now, but please don't forget to keep pumping. your melvin is down to units of a mention. i don't mean to humanize the animals, but these are mammals like us. and we think we have the right to take their babies away so we can have their milk damage hadn't been here though. calves are allowed to stay with the cows, isn't as commonly clean their 1st in line and get as much milk as they want directly. and then we humans take the rest to finish. i think that's the right way of doing it. this attitude is the absolute exception. a knish within, in each,
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in germany there are only about $100.00 dairy farms where calves and mothers are kept together. that's just 2 percent of organic farms and all organic farms together produce only about 3.5 percent of the country's milk. woom anya's convinced it is possible to farm animals in species appropriate conditions. but the basic rule of animal husbandry also applies to her. keeping an animal alive is only worth while, as long as it performs for him. so some of before it's shot, there is always a moment of a total stillness as if everyone were waiting. and in that moment, i think at the animal gun and let it go with gratitude, understeer and so that the soul can also gum disease elkin. and it's spiritual to day. it's maria's turn. she will not die in the slaughter house,
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but where she lived, the thing is, is of in, it's definitely more pleasant to shoot her in the pastures as if she were a dear. i hear that the grass is nice here you have chosen the tastiest spot. each animal slaughtered this way in the pasture, must be individually registered and approved by the authorities, and official veterinarian inspects each animal what cost to large slaughterhouse, but a few cents costs anya, around 40 euros per animal. death should come as suddenly as possible, surprisingly and without fear. the specially commissioned hunter shoots maria at close range between the eyes. when when we think about where our meet comes from,
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we like to imagine that the animals lived and died the way noreah did. but the truth is, unless we've made a very conscious decision to do so, we've probably never eaten such meat ah, 600 kilometers to the south animal rights activist lead. which moon also believes that any genuine change has to start with the demand. when the hulking doesn't cause a maintenance comenity to throw a call from, didn't cannot to my main opponents of the consumers who are buying the stuff who are pushing the button that sparks this whole chain reaction to resubmit. but in order to reach them, i have to deal with all kinds of lackeys in this industry where the suffering is happening in order to show my main opponent the people. hey, this is what you're causing this suffering thus was 2 foot was us. does the style life lead? which moon has been researching the meat and food industry for almost 30 years? he and his team have long since professionalized their operations. when the us with
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nothing yet, and i got my 1st night vision device from my father when i was 13, of course it wasn't as high quality as this one. feel, this is the standard night vision device of the u. s. army i'm, i'm sure you've seen it in action. movies was in the so co tear should server is full of horrific footage of animals in the food industry. thousands of broiled, or chickens, for example, are loaded and driven around the country for hours. was each of you, you can see how carelessly they grab them by the feet and throw them in that wretch at the door shut no matter if there is a head or a wing sticking out a little aging cows or carelessly disposed of sometimes illegally slaughtered when they no longer produce milk. male calves are worthless from the start. turkeys are over bred to such an extent that they barely last until they are ready for slaughter. the carpet ext passenger body grows rapidly,
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literally vegetated and bones and joints just can't keep her. before being slaughtered, pigs are stunned with c o. 2 in gas chambers, while they panic and fight for their lives. that's not a scandalous exception. but the norm eat up, you know, goodbyes. must see oats by every biologist knows that c o 2 causes pain in the mucous membrane, but the big corporations have pushed this through. have made it possible. i'm as it's the only way you can slaughter 25000 pigs a day by non toxic. that one's still not stand back there. the same patterns are evident everywhere. a system designed around profits and only as much animal welfare as the law requires. it has been taught stim, optimistic. i'm an optimistic animal rights activist here. that makes me very different from the majority of people who call themselves animal rights activist,
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because they say everything's getting more and more horrible. and yes, i believe that we and i will live to see the end of mass animal husbandry. how little? because i'm watching very closely how this industry is developing, what problems it has, where it's already crumbling, where the 1st parts are already collapsing will shortly, and that's in full swing right now. we have the most extreme human animal relationship dynamic in the history of humanity. if a has like a, she stood a man child. sometimes he can't even stanch documenting the conditions. just as the su, sustainable hope, the obvious, that was the sweetest thing ever. i was rescuing a duck from a farm. i found it and i just couldn't leave it. this is connie, this is elder, the duck dog. she's such an enthusiastic bird. and she immediately started to clean herself and she was so dirty. what unfeigned, so guiding them as lieut the wreckage enough by the food resolved well after that the bird was clean and the whole bathroom dirty with now when we turn on the flush,
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the bird goes absolutely crazy. and this is the 1st time that this water bird gets to swimming water buffer swim, because so that was one of the most beautiful moments i've ever experienced. any of you? i mean, sometimes it's like we have 2 pairs of glasses. for one, we see animals as food through the other as individuals. how would the world change if we wore the 2nd pair more often? ah ah, ah ah ah
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