responsible for the future follow country for the people who are behind the guardians of truth starts february 18th on d. w ah ah, this is dw, use live from berlin. world leaders are gathering here in germany for the 2nd day of the munich security conference. european commission, president of the founder lions stress is the use commitment to ukraine and condemns what she calls russian imperialism. also coming up. another attack on police in pakistan, bye is no mist extremists officers in karachi say they have regained control of

their headquarters. after with stormed by taliban gun, the attack comes just weeks after a bomb blast killed more than 80 officers at a pennies. the humanitarian crisis in turkey and syria escalates the united nations appeals for $1000000000.00 us dollars to help those affected by the earthquakes as some desperate syrian refugees return to the war torn countries a flat. ah i'm pablo fo lillius. welcome to the program. global leaders are meeting here in germany for a 2nd day of talks at the munich security conference, widely considered the world's most important to international defense event. the conference heard today from european commission president ursula funder line,

who made clear the use position on the motives behind brushes, invasion of ukraine. it is about fourteen's imperialistic plans. and this is something where all of us and mainly the global cells have a very clear idea. it is completely unacceptable. and countries in on the other side of the mediterranean, have a bitter and longstanding experience. first, you send the negotiators in, then you send them, they see that the experts are sending us and being sent in and then at the mercenaries that are being sending. so what we have to do is not only explain that we will never, ever accept this imperialistic war. we will never, ever accept that voting is trampling on the international law that protects all of us. that the un charter that is also in the interest. i mean it's in the interest

of every single country is being treated so disrespectful and that we will never accept that today. you can send tangs just across the board or to invade a country commission president chair, or so fonder line there. well, finland's prime minister, santa marines, addressed to the conference, had been keenly anticipated. she talked about her country's aim to join nato at the same time as neighbouring sweden, with that preserving sovereignty top of the agenda. the most important thing for finance finnish people is to make sure that we are independent. we are secure, we have a southern country, we can make our own decisions. number one issue for finished people. and when russia, our neighbor, i talked a not the neighbor ukraine, it was obvious that philip will join nato because that's the line. that's the only line, but russia wouldn't cross. so it's to do with our security. it's to do with peace. it's the act of peace for finland to join nato. we have sent

a very clear message. we want to join to get their wits weed. and at the same time, it's not only because we are neighbors, think it partners. it's all also to do with very concrete matters at the security planning of nato in the whole north. it's in interest of us, but it's also in the interest of nato that finland and sweden will join simultaneously. and we have sent very clear signal and very clear message to turkey, and also the hungry that huffman ratified yet, that we want enter nato together. and this is in the interest of everyone. all right, well joining me now for more on the security conferences correspondent terry schultz, who's standing by for us in munich. terry, great to see you. so plenty of topics covered there. let's say that ukraine dominated a lot of the discussion nato to, but what stood out for you i would actually say that russia dominated the conversation more than ukraine, of course,

flip side of the same coin. but it was remarkable to see how laser focused both of these leaders were on talking about punishment for russia. how unacceptable to russian behavior was and how every effort, both of the european commission and of finland itself would be focused on supporting ukraine for as long as it takes and on reinforcing nato as well as we just heard from, from the finish, pri ministry. now, a year ago, just before the invasion, i was also here at munich. if you had had san marin sitting on the stage, she would not have been saying most of the things she said today. so it's been remarkable as a nato watcher, as a finland watcher to see what a change in the rhetoric from finland and in the actions finland is taken on the ground in the last year. hello. this is what is standing in the way actually for finland, joining nato on sweden as well. well, those are 2 different questions actually very little. if anything is standing in

the way of finland joining nato. turkey has made that clear that it's real beef is with sweden. we've seen these incidents in sweden where someone burned a qur'an where there was an effigy of turkish presidents air to one swinging and downtown stockholm, in finland. turkey makes, makes clear that it doesn't really have a lot of issues. they've sort of massage some policies it to, to make turkey feel more secure. that if it needs weapons from finland they would be sent. and, and this kind of thing. but what's holding up finland at the moment is that the 2 applications have been tied together and this is something that we may see change. in fact, just in the last week to nato defense ministerial secretary journal stolberg sort of opened the door to nato being. okay. with finland going ahead 1st. if turkey ratifies, so yep, finland actually has a pretty clear path to getting in by the time there's a nato summit this summer. terry, what does a victory of the war in ukraine look like for both speakers and how do they wanted

to be achieved? or both of them said that there should be no concessions. i mean, this is, this is the standard policy that they would stand by ukraine and his and sonia martin said it should be up to ukraine to ask europe for what it needs. now i don't think we didn't discuss in, in this panel. you didn't hear them talking about all what the situation would be on the battlefield, for example, but the standard position in, in europe, and in nato. it, it is that it is up to ukraine to decide what the terms are of when it seeks to discuss peace with russia. and i haven't heard anyone say they believed those conditions from moscow side are in place right now. now, terry, today we're going to be hearing from a comedy harris and also from china to and what are you going to be having your ears pricked for i think from the vice president of the united

states, europe is always keen to hear reassurance that the united states is not backing away from any of its commitments in nato. those are always repeated, but always eagerly awaited none the less. and now you have a situation in the united states where you're moving into the presidential elections and where the republican party typically a stalwart nato defender, is talking about pulling back on support for ukraine. you hear republican club members of congress. 7 saying they don't believe that they should be sending billions to ukraine. what's, what's that worth to the american people? so this is something that makes europeans very nervous. i think with china, that's an open book. i, i don't know what we're expecting from them. something interesting that we've learned is that a taiwanese representative is here at the conference for the 1st time in, in years. so there are a lot of a lot of nuances behind the scenes here at munich as always. thanks. terry dw correspondent terry schultz with the munich security conference moving on

and police in pakistan's largest city of karachi say they've regained control of their headquarters after was attacked by taliban government. for people including 2 police officers, were killed in the attack. officials say, well, all 3 taliban fighters died. the incident comes just weeks after a bomb blast killed more than 80 officers at a police mosque. was an explosion at police headquarters in karachi. oh, yes, i've been, jo. the blast came after several hours of intense gum far between police and the 3 taliban militants. dozens of offices were hold up inside the compound. after the militant storm, the building reportedly wearing police uniforms and a late police unit paramilitary ranges and army snipe as quickly surrounded the 4 story building. officials said the operation ended when one of the taliban fighters

blew himself up. the out, the 2 died from gunshot wounds in there. it is being done and himself, everything will be clear and isn't a blessing of her love. the opportunity successfully and teachers have been can officials say 3 security force members and a civilian were killed in the attack. and other 18 security officers were wounded. the taliban issued a short statement, claiming responsibility. it comes just weeks after a taliban suicide bomber blew himself up, had a mosque inside the police headquarters in the north western city of per shower, which killed at least $84.00 people. the attacks indicate the pakistani taliban as stepping up their efforts to overthrow the government was hope fades of finding people alive. the world's attention is turning to those who survived the massive earthquakes that had turkey and syria. the united nations is appealing for

$1000000000.00 us dollars to address the growing humanitarian crisis. nearly 2 weeks on millions in both countries remained displaced. people are sleeping outdoors and living without food, water, or toilets raised fears of further disaster from disease. many syrian refugees, or even choosing to return to the war torn country, a flat lining up, a border crossings with whatever belongings they managed to salvage, or chris and hel berg is a journalist and an expert on syria. and i asked her whether there will be enough aid flowing from turkey to syria after more crossings have been opened. it is by far not enough. what we're hearing from northern syria, as the clinics. and hospitals are really running out of medical supplies. there's a leg of baby baby powder in the region. what we've seen so far are 114 trucks by the go and crossing into northern syria for population of almost 4000000 in need.

so this is not enough. and we having a via hearing some assessment reports that are saying that 88 percent of the syrian earthquake victims live in the opposition. her territories by 12 percent live in the regime her territories. but on the other hand, it is 90 percent off the international aid that is going to the regime. so it's a quite unfair distribution of 8. anger is growing in northern syria over the late arrival of 8 following the earthquake in the critical days after the quite many, when many survivors could have been rescued, the area was largely cold or from the outside world. even now residence complain of a lack of help. the united nations is also under fire for failing to act in the midst of serious complex divisions. what 12 years of civil war left standing has now fallen victim to the earthquake. large parts of it live province have been reduced to rubble. this area is controlled by a jer hottest alliance that the un classes as

a terrorist organization. the syrian government controls 2 thirds of the country. the north east shown here in dark blue is under kurdish control. but it's the north west. that's been hardest hit by the quake. the area around it live under that you had is rebels. and the area in light blue that's controlled by pro turkish forces. the un normally use is just one border crossing to get aid from turkey to syria. but it was initially rendered impossible by the quake. the white helmets rescue group that operates in serious rebel held areas appealed for heavy machinery to rescue survivors. but to no avail. you and aid is now flowing from turkey. after the syrian regime of basha alice sod agreed to open additional border crossings. but critics say the un shouldn't have waited for approval from damascus given the government doesn't control the area anyway. government controlled areas like

here in the city of a leper, have receive more aid, much of it from other arab countries that long shunned assad. critic say the earthquake could even work in assad's favor and strengthen his hand. those left in the ruins in rebel held areas just want help, but find themselves caught in a political tug of war for which they're paying a high price. or here are some other stories making headlines around the world. in the u. s. state of tennessee 5 former memphis police officers have pleaded not guilty to 2nd degree murder in connection with the violent death of tyree nichols. the 29 year old died in hospital 3 days after he was savagely beaten by the officers following a traffic stop for the record here. the pentagon says an explosion killed a leader of the so called islamic state and wounded for american soldiers during a rate. in ne syria. many remaining ice fighters have retreated into desert heights

in speech hottest were defeated in syria, in 2910. gonna have more information on that report and certainly, and here's a reminder off the top story we're following for you. european commission president ursula funder line has stressed the use commitment to ukraine at the me, me security conference. she said a block would never accept what she called, brush and imperialism. and that's here in used for, and i will be following that unit security conference to rec, today. so do stay tuned for that. for me. take care with justin. joanne a don't. but a good push to me today was yes but see if this is the consequence. what photos and flips under.