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she has been an unknown housewife. and has become the leader of democratic, beller, with the best of peace and year old girls with real freedom. india is so painful to see your loved in this small prison. you understand that he is absolutely innocent, that he didn't do anything wrong. to face lucas shanker, the longest ruling dictates renewal. she lost her old life and started a new one. your city. and you can be a great mother taking care of thousands of different things at the same time. travel can you can governor country emotionally strong. okay. how can you turn into a politician when you never meant to become one?
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in the you say again, i know that the slats who might not reach you as they are withholding letters from political prisoners. but still, i am writing so that those who put you in prison can see that you are not alone in yourself. my name is chanda. i'm a turkish jordan is living in exile in germany. i was sentenced to 27 years in prison because of a story i wrote. after serving some time in prison and surviving an armed attack, i had to leave my country. ah, i met your wife's with bennett for a few more words the last couple of months,
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many times giving hope to the people of belarus who are forced to lead in exile. ah, the, i'm sorry. what if i was there not only as a journalist, but someone who lived through the same experience? that's why it was important to gain her support to get into her inner world. but i must admit, it was not easy to move. i remember me for most look. yes this emily? yes, avery, that we're following you both each of them. oh, oh no. pro slower will come to the wife elizabeth 100 the for you here with she was this than, than maybe test to the with the fact that i am a foreigner, man. and that's
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a woman's story. the story of swift and latino scarce thoughts with her husband, sergey fiowski, him one at blogger and businessman. but he'll see outdoor forces ragna, luxuries in again, traveled the country, interviewed people, and chose serious problems of fellows that nobody did to talk about room like you would be for sure. stay your google neo stroke goc was the shuttle or will it go? okay, at this deal, marshall lives in the dictates of lucas shanker declared him and any meals to state but for many people in the country, he's a hero of us the most with felix went from your home and we should be human that will log on loza wishing yes it's done that. yeah,
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the you enjoy was was supposed to grow more than others believe bonnie war. it's why you do not with your brother machine, but like everyone else. i thought for a long time that it wasn't worth getting involved in politics. kristen divided them, i felt the people who did just got arrested or murdered. they just disappear. but my husband has a strong character. if he decides to do something, he does a good deal. yeah, she'll get to cromwell scoobie levels. keep repeating you, martin. you boerger. they will ask for your money in, you will shaft the words, but his ideals kick on plenty of gracious. we can do but of what is the deal with cuz they're all people with us for since the 1st time he was arrested, i was really a trainer, but not in the shop to that he was followed constantly of the they really hounded him. was she stopping his car repeatedly? i can remember he was live streaming a tool in his car. one time when he was stopped by the police and taken some with
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he asked the child up a dollar the community. i wanted to submit my husband's documents for him, but when i arrived at the central election commission, they just laughed at me and wouldn't take them he knew pertaining to the command. ah, isn't that a good deal then in one night i put together the documents for my own candidacy thing in the last, i never thought they'd register me for the election. but it was important to me to show sergey that everything he had done was important to me. i was just on d o as his wife, i one to suppose him in everything was from got to her budget that was the turning point force with la, incredible story, hugh, she is a wife of an upcoming politician in a dictatorship. and then in a moment where she tries to stand up for her husband's her destiny changes and she
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herself becomes a politician. ah . when was the last time you talked to your husband after his detention, i had the opportunity to talk to him once. it was in 2020 and they like allowed him to o phone me. i think that maybe they wanted through him to get some information and i don't know, but of course i knew that he's not alone. that there are people around him. i just ship. yeah, it is hard for those preserves your schools in the home. it's a nicer should with more of nevada sophistic me personally. he wanted me to be like him, but sir,
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i can't change myself immediately. menu the with the atlanta people know form. you can do that. open you, bentley, and as for me he b. 7 0, when you follow twitter, latino scare, and europe today, you see wanting she got a lot tougher, and she's at presenting bellows in the highest level with agent. so the president's the prime ministers, the word media are inviting her and talking to her,
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listening to what she has to say, and she's not shy to speak out for her country. boys. oh see, brother, how's it when it was either his own walk affected chiffon sir, in no small this international, this issue from them. there he is even less energy. she never declared herself as the president of bellows. but part of the world receives her as such. madam president of fellows, as soon as we each gets la for interviews like 15 minutes,
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is too little to reach the real woman behind her political image. i will be here in so you were in also the day before and often the yesterday and they vienna and but slower in the afternoon. so i mean so should unbelievable schedule. are you tired of it? of course i am tired, i am tired, physically untied. morally, i don't see my children. the lord only may be on the weekends and but i am so exhausted. and during this weekend that, you know, i have my children and we watch a movie together with them. i hope that strong leaders will see that be attired, but we are not stop in the end. they will not stop as well. politics is,
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is it shouldn't be comfortable, it should be always like her overcome challenges. i really relies it and it's too much on my shoulders, but i have to hold this weight because i, i'm a l side with all the reasons are responsible for the future of our country for the people who are behind the boss with me here at the so we arrived at the border at around 3 in the morning. did you manage for me the children didn't asked me where we were going go down by. we said good bye to those
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who had brought us at sharing a border official registered our names on them. and we continued on fulton greenwich, new washing dishes. ah. able to now to our new. yes. and then even you said grandma, is it true that mama's in prison motion, but maybe we had mentioned to us or talked about while he was around him. we thought he was too young to understand when you might be under estimated him. so i said, yes, a little vanya mama's in prison, and then he told his sister, nice joe. then you said the nice jim, look good with web, which on that my daughter was an activist and an associate at 3 atlanta chino sky. she was collecting signatures for tune of skies candidacy. that's why she was convicted and she's been imprison ever since
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you. she loves us ally file of papa sent more. i better mama, i am what you wish for for mamma and papa to get out of prison for mamma and papa to get out of prison. and for lucas, she got to die and put into ha, ha ha. yang it as any particular toasters. i've never regretted telling the children the truth guttenberg here. i don't know how i could have carried on line. the children know that their mama and papa heroes tomorrow and that they're imprison, still more my pop of jamia. ah, it is totally unbelievable. being
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a kids. and knowing that your parents are in prison without having done anything wrong. when you make yourself a target for a dictator, your whole life, whole family's being taken hostage. that's the unfair thing. you know, it will effect your whole family and still you have to do it. ah . with theodore store for talked i think there just wanted to make fun of me when they approved my candidacy on the moist stall. they thought no normal society would collect signatures for a candidates like me just for new or elect
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a housewife for president. and he said, but i support the single slides of the maharishi. i knew you'd be shouting. jimmy shouted stacy, me a possibility to a poseidon. huh. i thought i knew by due to me it was been i to forgive peter. oh, gotcha. i wasn't one moment. yeah. not a problem. want to stay with us. you know that's we all star teams to leave asthma, 3, marsha, veronica and myself. so we could speak confidentially financial. yeah. i told them very honestly and clearly that i didn't see myself in the role of you to president musical guided goes to like music. but together we decided to put me for it as
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a candidate anyway or school or plan was that if i should, when i would immediately cool fresh election with zach official. within 15 minutes we were agreed on our plan. he then, we began our campaign just traveling throughout the yellow race for got on with steve woman from different kobe crowns joined forces, and started to awaken the country. ah, showing that these for a summer long that political changes are possible as a democratic country in a life and freedom ah, with thunder herself transformed completely together with her country. ah. email yes, carolyn mitchell. i remember our 1st rally luncheon. it was in
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a small town you. i was standing on the stage for the 1st time in my life and i was nervous. trashner. he says i took the microphone this 1st time they'd written a speech for me because i didn't know what to say anymore. i knew our basic principles and i knew what i felt when i saw the wide spreading justice in our country. but i didn't know how to talk to people or how they would receive me while i need to stay. i grew with the people of galleries, levels and most can shoot to trinity. but jim sham wellness office. 24 villa. well north bridge. jim really tra bumpers. a jim bullard dollar global struct push love all abolish procedure low. you push law this, the humiliation or for women is awful. who question come. he realizes that bill or ross is change and there some people i change and,
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and of course it threatens him a lot because he, for 27 years he built. but across in our conference he was sure that nobody will dare to how to say to live to the head up. yeah. will starla mall jack? yeah. was bella by? yes, son. oh, a with oh,
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if you fight for democracy you or do you mean places going might important places old. ah. especially european institutions like to do the deluxe and the out prices or consolation or support. but i wonder if they really stand up. will you take action for democratic writes, you up their comfort for freedom? and if those awards will help with that? well, sometimes yes. corporate mission, ions, offices provide democratic christ decala the belief that it is at least possible to cooperate to some degree even with
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dictators like lucas jenko may perhaps have made us too slow to access with respect to the bella russian regime. honda this gentleman tries millines not to me, and not to our trio. it belongs to all miller cents. daniel, watching the bill. i don't really like the microphone before you totally in the spotlight with everyone standing round you. darling. i understand that you have to communicate what you want to say to people and everyone has to be able to hear. but to me it feels unnaturally. ang, he's just soon think
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these are you remember that they need to be 7 year old girls, but the real freedom in bureaus? there were 2 piece and year lease fees for ukraine. ear flat union going through internal to know you're busy and i love being among people and talking to them. i'm just giving someone a hug crying with another or reminiscing with people. i like to be surrounded by people rather than talking before them and you know, for sure. oh, a
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with your husband's pictures always. then during the interviews is the political act or something personal for you? it is mostly personal, of course, because i have to feel my husband beside me all the time. and i, you know, when i hear some times that says something can not be done. you know, the situation is difficult. i always look here and i have to be persistent in my request because he is life his freedom and in the same as for them i, the 1000 people depend maybe on this conversation with the politician who must be missing him. look, i missed him. a lot of course, and he spent already 2 years in jail in sole true cell and her okie. of course it's awful. you know i
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but, but he's biased me to continue. and children who are asking me, where was they did and overall in our apartment, they leave portrait of my husband. is that or where and where, which and you deal with they did it for them and told them not to forget because my daughter was on the for when shes social for the last time, what was yours through and diaz credited this i my children know that sir, they did, isn't you? my older son is 12 and he realizes that his father is hero and he is suffering because so for question can the regime my younger daughter, she's 6, she knows that her dad is in jail, but she handly understands what jail is strong to your language. so key that the course to run they chose tours of trust me, me, she was more sinister, was that i need to reach the supplies still to resume the quiz. interesting. i bar
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bush, colleen, fortune door crew, the scene great here one pattern for this versus visual design. so much in this is seen that it as lou badly nash this, by so moon i saw the letter, your wife and children go to your, your birth date. and i remembered my joy and said this when i read the letters from my wife and son in prison, sorrow caused by oppression passes from country to country from hand to hand as if you burn there lay race. so does that determination to struggle? mm hm. just the other is that looking back, i realize i lived in fear every day,
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but some people were being arrested just for collecting signatures. i felt it was only a matter of time before they would come for me to restore the nurse that be looked at the boy. ah mam. ah, gushing alexander would choose a new burglar, several. it should be the miller warner thought. it is sad to hear the chippy just advance it. did you either wish him to shoot in what he did? he saw the broad santa ah
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somehow they forgot the people, especially women, took the streets and getting him warm in politics and then risking they free them a life to fight for democracy. would have to shut the which sla where on the morning of august 10th, we drove down to the central election commission still there. but that document that we wanted to make it clear that we did not accept the results because they were rigged. sit on the north as i entered the building, 2 people were already waiting. liam emilia started bradshaw area. mm hm. they told me what awaited me in prison when you cock camire. that was my children were case discussion occurs torturous they claimed i had been lied to monroe that marcia lesley cover
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was a secret agent. and that i was being use of an issue with a mr. from a psychological point of view. it was very clever allegation. and i was alone, neither marcia nor veronica were there, but it was no one to support motion. you got a new king. ciocca taught him what's up until i told them i was going to drive to lithuania to see my children's school. they said i 1st had to record a video of such video. i lost the news from digital. yes. haven't oscar bungalow vazo chest general belle grove. lucas. now below c g o sliver for the balance due to blood. we and that's how they force you to leave your country by using psychological pressure by telling lies by threatening you and your family the for a regime that is the freight of its opponents. forcing switzerland and many others out of the country or putting them into jail. the only way to stay in power.
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i begin with, ah, where dutch premium oller, my daughter tonya, who brought in every protest after the election is from vision unable i did. on september 6th 2020. she was arrested. did she what's up on that? she was followed to marsh. her car was start at 20 and she was taken into custody and your machine was on black. you know, when you're in the mail, i just told them with
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my mush tottenville or my husband stayed in belarus to help our daughter and her husband would she do much more in this position? you tony, look to you good. she's lost more weight, but otherwise she seemed relatively pittman cheerful ruler on that garage. she would have put on a brave face that said that you don't lose hospital one time, she almost started crying cuz i asked her if something was wrong. but she said, no, no, everything's okay. miss jenkins, this is all the women right. that they don't have enough food in the penal colony. really. that's why they're losing weight to you since they have to work, but don't have food. so just some porridge and fermented, travis couples took last and let you know granpa, i love you. i so much in member know i can credit these. come for my birthday,
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a shall come and mine lucy. oh my dear little ones, i'd love to i miss you so much, but at the moment grandpa can't come. can you at least send something? okay, but tell us what it's like in belarus now. sure. it's all over the fires gone out there. sure, everything's getting worse with jobs, wages living standards. sure. the deal at nist. i am here. what can we do? we can't leave the switch. okay. talk to you soon. we love and miss you. huh? yes, my bye. good bye. music, ireland and meeting all the people who had collected signatures from my candidacy in various cities. that's when i 1st met tanya.
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ah, city situated. she's such a good person or she is cool, very model. she slows along with them just until she someone with a pure heart move. it was a heavy blow glass when tony was arrested, a phone you ok, so d ah, after i got 20 hours when she was sentenced to 5 and a half years, i told my grandson. he asked me 5 years was a long time to like i said, yes, vanya, it's a very long time. how many days is it? he asked, i said it's very many days, but why he allister long and there was so much pain in his voice mail rebecca boldenow ah
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young, exquisite little in yet i have to say ever since that election day i have not stopped feeling guilty for even one human generally, if i could dollar cause the rask of that every time when someone is detained, charlotte has their houses or gets beaten in prison like that. i feel personally guilty manually. not the almost that because we didn't finish something that we started 1st on what to what a 1000000 that dylan. mm. where you end up in exile is a personal story. for me, it was barely in that that time or so with donna, it is been use the capital fleet van. yeah. less than an hour away from the border of bellows wanting. that sticks
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out. there's a huge sal dirty for billers and ukraine. people here just seemed to realize that the war on ukraine and dictatorship is very close. mm hm. it's whitland, eyes protected by the lithuanian states and security in the headquarters is high. ah, they're only allowed to film in the entrance hall and in the conference room with learners or other offices arrested or we can call it exiled government. we can call it center of democratic forces, whatever. in fact, this is the political heart of for democratic movement of belo stripe. al here are movement of the political idea. the narrative star been born.
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he didn't print anything for me. no, no time there with all will. so basic about michael i. so we're meeting to discuss our trip to the united nations in new york. ah, only, it'll be a brief visit. but just for days, much to review this part of the delegation for stat vilegas deadlines with lena taken off, scam franak via shorter car because it's alexander slick was you know, they'll be a bit of time to relax when we arrive. but in the evening, we're going to the clinton's reception, i get on this team from just one reception, or do we have to work through the night to my visit with you that that needs to be really it's being organized by bill and hillary clinton, you for your mac, you are, the 2nd appointment is important. it's with joe biden. thank you for coming in. that's not confirmed yet, but we've asked for a meeting. i'm stuck now after she left the bellows,
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she disappeared from information space. she was here in the villas. some of us were in cave manual forswear southern mince. so i took flight from keith on august, the 13. i so childcare for the 1st time was few weeks after elections. and the next day i started to work here. i think i am helped to form the team we have right now with i was a very young kid who in lucas shameka took bower. and i went to the 1st a year of their school location could became president. so my whole entire life of myself passed a with lucas, younger all my life was in fight against aggression all my life. and when i was in
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school, when i was 11 years old, i was hooton's think cares against lacresha and everywhere in the town, i was detained for the 1st time when i was 13 years old. and i spent a whole night and police so and the whole life and though it was in this fight, but we never had such power such energy and such, such a chance to win as we have right now. awe before she meets some president to premier. so she must understand what he or she can influence because when we go to the room of the meeting, she's the speaker. i am nearby, i am making notes. of course i can say something a few words. what i can not be a speaker. she is a speaker, so the preparation is keen. oh,
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i think next 50 years that will not be present then to police station and bellows. who has such meetings as for atlanta has now it's unique historical period. or she mentioned the very high level of the highest level possible. mm hm. where trying for 27 years, everything and we always lacked something. ah, her inexperience was for a superpower. and she doesn't want to be a politician. she doesn't want to be a president should ask of ambitions, and this is also part of her identity. part of her style, people are tied to for dinner. politicians like myself or other back to leaders. she is exactly what we need is that there was us, if you can be a great mother taken care of thousands of different things at the same time, then you can govern a country. i yes. so if you have competent advisors that you signed,
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almost the legal president is about pursuing common goals, having a sense of the people's moral sensibilities and, and understanding of the country as a whole address. ah, what is impressive for me is. whole ticks is nuts for politicians only. it should be open to every one, so you don't have to get it all to go school or coming from a party background. the one day you are a housewife. and the other day her pulsation. with with your mom. when you are in exile, you don't stop caring about your country. the countries the case, you are more involved in domestic politics and yet it is difficult to change it.
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lucas shanker highlands, his opponents, and many of them in prison. so the only hope is the opposition in exile. now some of those who started out with me in 2020 now accuse me of not letting them join my team. i think that's not true. are you ready to take on your leadership role to accept full responsibility as the newly elected president, with a new cabinet? all honest, i accept full responsibility. it's time if we build something up, then we also need to form a cabinet dining on you. and of course, this cabinet needs to be one that is not in any way comparable with the regime in viet rolly santa houston. sure. if she went up we would have yeah, i would like to know whether in your office and in the new cabinet. if attention
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will finally be paid to ensuring that there is a gender balance with 2 family. just the fact that i've been working like a bulldozer for years now. it is like my oath to the people of the allegories hello song. ah ah, going to billers is for me like going to 30 no difference at all. there is the kind of agreement between those leaders like adeline and to push ankle once you challenge one of them or challenging the other. so this way, they can easily give you to each other. ah,
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ah, 100 meters away. there's in other worlds. so our freedom ends here, and we're to italian regime stars from here on the right here is open the borders and free the hostages means political prisoners must be very sad for switzerland and the others to be so close to her country what's altogether so far away yet my store as carpet that anything distance plays a role in how homesick you feel up or longing to be reunited with your family to be in place as you love is just as strong whether you're 40 minutes away or a 1000 kilometers. if you can't measure it in distance, i didn't put you in
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a moment, but when the time comes, i'll be home much faster than just the my cham. john. what is your imagination? you dream to, to have a family life or struggle for the country? and then with your husband, my dream is to be together with my husband and my children. ah, in oldish circumstances in or i dunno. i may be my husband who will be in politics in the future and i will be just his wife. what is interesting is that you were his wife once upon a time, and now we are talking about him as your husband is changed, the use 30 status right now. actually i still feel as wife of my husbands in all. and then when my husband is released, i will be,
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are behind him. and he will be the front, the front person in my family and the most may be in the country. and i will not let her like fight with him for a full recognition or for terror. so this is pamela villiers are more important for me. some people might be unsatisfied with what she says. she, as a woman, having the power does not hold on to it. and rather wants to step back when her husband is free. money would do hope that her country will also be free. that day
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when i was in prison for publishing an article, it was my wife, the lake, who did everything she could to get me out and show the injustice to the world. that reminds me of swiftness, fight for her husband, sergey that so whence within it was in berlin. i wanted them to meet also to see direct can do what i couldn't to reach with donna's inner war. hello i again my why fi? do you, how are you? i was on our come thank you for calling. thank you with a pleasure. gen and strickland massage my. oh so jens. arrest as a turning point in turkey here with them. john was a very important public figure after the fact that he was put in prison was the 1st sign that turkey was going off. the rails. it is, i that shannon,
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he cupboards are we, is that so i thought i need to explain in europe and especially before blair of parliament, just how outrageous it was in there. how close knowing that you're standing for what's right gives you such power. suddenly you can express everything just suddenly. you're able to speak out about you begin to speak emotionally. well, get an illusion. it does push back or you have the power to counter it. mm. the gauge. it was around midnight when the prisoners were released. there was so many people crowding around. i couldn't even get near joan blood. but then a corridor suddenly opened up and i got to hamburg, chilled the banyan negative you them for it was
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pure joy with i'm with ah you know, standing here today i feel the weight of history. it's noisy tend to think that on the a couple of steps from where i stand now, nearly 3000 people were executed,
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working through the prison today. i felt so small. my heart began to beat faster. and i thought that my husband's hill gate must have felt something similar when he 1st entered the court yard of joy in the prison he will say, so how did you decide to fight for your husbands and how was it put for example, i remember that in my case, i was that the in. i'm not good in talking with crowds. i was still trembling. i mean, what was your chase thing? how, how it started? oak, everything was the same. i feel absolutely. till now. i feel absolutely uncomfortable in front of the amount of people. i'm really, i did it in a i'm rather modest and shy person. i'm not like talkative,
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but when you have to do something, we are women. we are stronger than we sometimes think about how ourselves i remember in 2020. absolutely. everything was so new for me and it was my 1st speech in european parliament. just imagine i and i remember i, i guess you, i had speech. i didn't know how this reputed parliament look like, and the door opens and i see this massive room and a told no. i may step back. but look what can i deleted it? i went and, and, and showed those features with the, with the beaten people in the prisons. they were tortured. harris and freight. yeah. women usually lose sometimes underestimates our so i believe enormous power and we are much more powerful than men, which was, but still i would like to have better rhetoric. i knew
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i took in simple words. i don't know. this is diplomatically engaged where people say something. so you say say, and you can't understand what he's talking about or you know, but yeah, what your husband knows that you are competing for him all real world little. she knows that i complain not for him channels the time came in for angels. that, of course, you know, was in the lawyer which support, you know, if you're in jail and form as you why campaign for the others and you, there were times when i was so exhausted and you say, look, i can't do this anymore. but you wake up in the morning, the same good. now you can transfer him, you can take a shower while you can, but your husband and 1000 provide the people come to this so we can enroll. ah,
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a time. oh, dear miss tragic. we feel a need to attend all the events link to bella. ruth pierre, the children say, this is our way of helping. mamma and papa condition were fighting for the program . my maid park twitched with climate. thanks to atlanta you can or sky of the world has not forgotten belarus. yeah. she's not going to take up arms and liberate the prisoners of some other from it's to people who must do that.
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yeah, i knew i don't want to live in any other country than pierre. natalie smith? absolutely. i don't even entertain the idea. even. i don't know when we will be able to return visitors, but it will happen up that i'm certain that north austin at the place. i don't the thought ah. ready i firmly believed that one day, this confounding struggles with triumph and our country's wills with cheap democracy. the wife keeps up the hope for that day. i wish you an all political prisoners the strength to endure and salute your boundless determination to struggle. sincerely yours, john did that ah
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it chanted and exposed the story behind the com on your back in 30 minutes on d w. i want my life back. mm tanya escaped from nose my home in 2014 vineyards with the army occupy did to my home town. i lost my home for the 2nd time this month. seem to you because the russian army, i take to, oh, great ah me, 90 minutes on d. w. o . being 40, we'll tie social media and say if it isn't swent in the propaganda
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