[000:00:00;00] ah, to day you as president joe biden paid an unannounced visit to ukraine, and he offered the ukranian president, the following a big hug. another $500000000.00 in military aid and a promise to help ukraine fight the russian invasion for as long as it takes. in the meantime, the fighting rages all this week. this war here in the middle of europe will enter . it's a 2nd year and an end is nowhere in sight. i'm burnt off in berlin. this is the day . ah, boone thought ukraine was weak in the west was divided resistant plain wrong. she, you know, but that in the whole of europe,

in the democratic world must support the clearing of old ukrainian land from russian occupation. that freedom is price. it's worse party for, for as long as it takes the only we can and must make this year 2023, the year victory applied in america. stand with you and the world stands with you also coming up china and russia. there's is a friendship with no limits. could that mean chinese weapons to help russian soldiers attack ukraine? they are concerned that a china is considering us supporting rushes war effort in ukraine with lethal assistance. something that we're watching a very, very close. but i think china understands what's,

what's at risk. we're to proceed with providing material support of that kind to, to russia, ah, to our viewers watching or pbf in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with symbolism intended to stick and sting to day you as president biden paid a visit to keep and stood side by side with ukrainian president zalinski, a u. s. president. inside an active war zone, an unprecedented image that was meant for 2 very different audiences. first, the ukrainian people biden to de promised american solidarity and he backed up his pledge with another half a $1000000000.00 in military aid for ukraine. in today's symbolic photo op was also meant for the eyes of russian president vladimir putin. and in your face show of defiance which the kremlin dismissed as a political sta. a gesture of solidarity, and

a vital reminder of unity between the u. s. and ukraine against russian aggression air raid sirens blared across the ukrainian capital during u. s. president joe biden surprise visit. there were no reports of russian air strikes, but the found is still a clear reminder that ukraine is under constant attack. making support from the us more important now than ever on here. sure. and we're very supportive from the emissions of the french sovereignty, hannah and territorial integrity. and today, i hope we have a chance to discuss our united states and our allies are keep in constant contact group on our partners can most effectively support you and your credit and your cause to present ukrainian president full autumn ears to lensky voice, his gratitude to the huge, monumental subordinate, the agree and, ah, what can i say,

i really appreciate that president water america society being from the word week. you know, this tragedy on the learn. you know, this poor you war on being together with us. feels full of support. it was from why now to you train and thank you for your leadership, thanks by boxes or thanks, congress. i think that is historical moment for all, for all cause. the 2 presidents paid tribute at the wall of remembrance to the thousands of ukrainian soldiers who have lost their lives since 2014 biden's visit comes at a crucial moment in the war as the us needs to keep allied unified in their support

for ukraine. if ukraine is to send off russian offensives in the spring, an important day an important week for you, chris, to talk about that. i'm drawing up by alexander chevrolet. he is a former ambassador to austria from ukraine. he's also the author of ukraine versus darkness. a collection of essays based on the 2 and a half decades that he spent as a career diplomat in speech writer for ukrainian leaders better. it's good to have you back on the program when i'd start by asking you about what we saw today and keep you as president biden visiting keith, it's been a long time coming. what does it mean to the people of ukraine to the military of ukraine that the u. s. president actually set foot there today? well, it's a great just, it's a very encouraging gesture for ukraine ukrainians for those viking on the front line. quite frankly,

american and american presidents were usually very reluctant to leave the ukraine last. the last one visiting was the jury. w bush and a lot of your friends and all of them had this. you know, here are very taping, russia and joe biden. finally show american president has courage, has the ability to not only to be called the leader free world, but at the leader of the free world. because what the date was exactly our american president of the world should be behaving made of the major assault against the democracy and freedom that brought him almost a year. ready? you as president biden, he has been called the consoler in chief. and that title struck me today when we saw him lay a wreath at

a monument to fallen ukrainian soldiers. what went through your mind watching that it was a powerful moment. i so lead to the source, the days of this full blown war around my president biden was among those leaders in the west who didn't believe in ukraine and didn't give my chance to crane. i'm quite frank and nobody did we. everybody was giving us 0 chance of surviving 15 or days or in the month. yet, here we are. and i think her old her in a way you frame will hook world up and made the world around the more courageous and losing the night of faith. there was a military aid on the agenda again today we understand that the u. s. president announced

a further $500000000.00 us dollars in military aid for ukraine. it take us if you could, based on what you've experienced inside the room, what, what would president to live? he and his advisors, what will they have said to president biden, today? it, while they are, i suppose they were discussing very frankly what is needed? 2 things a to so the ongoing offensive record trying to be on the offensive, the la mom, the even had some my territorial games on the wrong line. we are very confident that the western support will. busy stop it, but we will need exactly that. what was promised today, more of a nation, more anti bank at some point you in

the next month. so more tanks and so but more tanks and by the just this is what we need. first of all, for the 2nd thing for the upcoming ukrainian, we would think will rate the course of this war in favor of ukraine. and so we'll bring the rectory during the course of this year. and there's more than just military aid that you ukraine needs. i'm thinking about energy, infrastructure, humanitarian support, i mean, those needs are still dire as well, aren't they? what's very important is the direct and then direct, but budgetary help, because the, the government to function partly gone is done. so we depend on the outside help for, you know, pain pensions or waiting our soldiers on the line. so the

financial support is very important and it's very urgent that our western partners understand that once it's been given to bring that up small price to pay. busy more than hitler who has no intention of coping in ukraine will discuss with them to get the tv shows every day, a little goal, where they are on towards berlin. why? so london? i want to ask you about china for a moment, over the weekend at the munich security conference, we heard from the chinese top diplomat, beijing plans to announce a a peace plan if you will, for this more what ukrainians. what did they make of this possible chinese proposal?

well, china has been acting very pragmatic, racial so far in the way that they have been confirming this support for ukraine. so really sorry for the integrity of your brain. that's one thing. you know? certainly they haven't been terribly involved supporting russia. definitely. russia was counting. i think this is because nobody will be back when i losing to say anything about winning this war. so for china to come, how make bad the pressure will be and the winning wouldn't be right. and the whole whole plan would be in the upcoming days would be

once again irrational step and not something in say like entering this war and decided russian. and that's, let me just ask before you run out of time, what about there are reports that the united states has reason to be concerned that china may be sending lethal aid to russia that can be used against your country. if that's the case, that doesn't sound like a country that's being very pragmatic at all. you're not in doesn't, doesn't mean that china is making just as big mistake as recipes a year ago. and the china didn't learn anything from russian mistakes during this year. i hope it will be the case. alexander shivered, joining us tonight from keith as always, whichever we appreciate your time and your valuable insights. thank you. thank you . with china, despite its no limits, friendship with russia, it's largely been seen as a bystander in russia's invasion of ukraine. but as we just said,

that may be about to change your secretary of state anthony, blinking says the china may start providing lethal support, arms and ammunition to russia. and as this conflict drags on china seems to have it . sites on reshaping the global order. rushes frontline in ukraine has advanced, retreated an inch to fool it since its invasion a year ago. but one thing has stayed constant. european hopes that russia's biggest ally could push it to end the destruction of beakers. he shook kit that is important for us that china does not choose rushes side. chavez. i said to president she, that it's important for china to exert its influence on russia. china has often called for peace negotiations, da da da, honda. we've both talked about the current ukraine crisis. we,

she and the 2 sides both hoped that this crisis could be ended as soon as possible . the situation can be eased and it really must not be escalated. but beijing looks reluctant to clip russian wings before russia are invaded to ukraine. president, she and who sinned declared a no limits partnership between their countries to 0 and they've met in person since then. and more face to face meetings, i'll plan more am because m putin didn't win the war quickly taught to rethink its relationship while keeping this very strong alliance intact. so china's main focus is to make sure that it continues to trade heavily with the west, while also maintaining its close friendship with, with russia local. so some one limit on this, no limits. partnership may be russians, threats to use nuclear weapons in the conflict. in a statement president,

she called on the international community to jointly oppose such a move. but china may be offering russia material support in the war, despite threats of more sanctions from the u. s. government u. s. based security research is c for a d. s alleged that chinese companies are exporting equipment to sanctioned russian defense firms. but paging says its exports to russia are in line with its laws. china is already benefiting from the war in ukraine in other ways. russia now needs china more than china, needs russia, and em, i think china is always prepared to, to use this leverage that it has to its own advantage. i'm on, i think it's hoping it's already taking advantage of cheap energy. it's also looking at the invasion of ukraine to see what it could mean for its own ambitions and in taiwan and in the south china sea. as moscow's troops struggle on in ukraine, shine are, is working towards its long term go live,

expanding its board as an influence on the global stage. ah, well, more than 7000 kilometers away from the battlefields and eastern ukraine. cambodia is providing valuable de mining training to ukrainian troops. now this comes after cambodian prime minister who's said offered the help to ukrainian president vladimir zalinski in a telephone conversation last november. my advice, i seen the ditching gun is being taught how to carry out to control it explosion yet he is part of a team of 15 ukrainian soldiers who are in cambodia for a week to be trained in d mining techniques. voice lori helpful training. it was so interesting for us because because if sir ground penetration rod darcy, alice, it's maria,

it's very important or how to know how to provide the mining how to operate. and it will be very helpful for a clean our territory from russian mines. the, our loaner from the expert cambodia is one of the most might affected countries in the world. after decades of what an internal conflict that ended in 1998. there are still up to 6000000 unexploded devices lifting the country. organizations like the cambodian mind action center are working to clear them. now a country faced with an ongoing conflict is benefiting from that expertise since russia in reading ukraine last february, the country has been working on gaining thousands of mines left across its territory. but the training had in cambodia is only the 1st step, the bologna, nicky. but we will send our experts to pull into train ukrainians using the same equipment and

a p a but will train them according to the situation in europe. because now we're only training them here in cambodia, you know, the monmouth e, the situation, there's different company. so that's why we'll continue this training in europe where that can apply the equipment at technology to a real situation in the clunky of vol mahatma exec collaboration that will hopefully help to save thousands of life. ah, some republicans want so screwed a sunset. i'm not say this majority o, as we all apparently agree. so security, medicare's often off the books now in his state of the union address earlier this month, you as president by mentioned america's senior citizens. at least we counted at

least 9 times and that wasn't by chance. america's population is getting greater every day, more than 11000 people hit retirement age. the baby boomer generation is leaving the workforce the working world, just as they entered it, in unprecedented numbers from 946-2964, the u. s. population exploded by $76000000.00 a generation so large, it define not only the united states, but also much of the post war global order. but that is no longer the case. in his book, the aftermath, the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america, philip bump poses the question. what will happen to us when the boomers are gone and feel a bump, he joins v now. it's good to have you on the program. let me ask you, mr. bump is america, is the world prepared for a post boomer future? well,

i think the world and american particularly need to prepare for the we know the room dumb and one of the patterns that we've seen with the baby boom. since the onset was, is massive surge. people force a concrete and frank yolande. and right. and one of the things that we're seeing right in this moment is we have not been prepared if you, with this surge retirees, to the point that by meeting his speech. so 1st that at this moment, are we prepared to deal with what follows? well, it depends to rating say what the boomers do, while they still retain power, which they do still do a disproportionate love. i'm wondering how wide would you say the generation gap between boomers and millennials is. when even asked about genetics genetics, we get ignored a lot. but the grammy's earlier this month you write that no one over 30 recognizes the grammy winters and no one under 30 watches the grammy's talk to me

about that. yeah, the, the green, me just sort of this interesting microcosm in a, there this cultural for dealing with youth culture in particular. but be, they're broadcast on television and therefore not meet him that young people see. obviously they're still going to see them on, you know, tick, tock, segments on so forth. but it's really a good encapsulation. all that divide. we older americans do tend to watch tv more younger people get their news elsewhere. and the ways in which that manifests in other ways when it comes to things like young people being able to make talking to an oil or people getting their faces in a way that wasn't possible it years ago. it's sort of this microcosm of the ways in which the media environment itself over last on generation, on the line. and if we even go expand this beyond a pop culture, is the definition of the united states? is that definition? is it changing? as the baby boomers exit the stage. yeah, absolutely. well,

one of the things about the baby is that it began at a real low and american immigration. there are new restrictions on immigration place in the united states. right now, the word lifted until the baby and the baby boom is a much wider generation than generations that following particularly the millennials and gently. and so we see that the actual composition, the nature of america cell is different between older and younger and a lot other things to where people are better educated. their last long political parties are less religious or these other divides as well. but the composition of the united states itself is different now than it was when the baby boom became very tangible ways. you describe the exit of the boomers in your book here. we wanna, we want to pull that up. you right. we've seen generational tensions before. but we're now living through something exceptional, a decline, not of the spartan civilization, but of the roman one. we are living through

a historic disruption of the american empire. i mean, that's quite a statement decline of the roman empire. and the, to me, that implies gigantic disruption in the u. s. into the u. s. and also to the entire world. well, yeah, i mean, that is true. i mean, i meant it more from the standpoint of this very defining thing, this thing, overarching, superstructure for a lot of what united states is, is now big, right? yes, we believe that there are fairly quickly issues. but when you go back and look at it, it took some time and we're seeing that sort of dismantling of the baby boomer. well, it's not still going to be wrong and it's still going to be real looking for that difference. and there will be an error i period in which things are pretty shaky out, i think is what we're seeing right now. you, you also right in this book, this caught my eye that you don't know whether or not we will still have

a constituted united states in 40 years. are the baby boomers, are they the glue that has a old america together? i would say the baby boomers are lived together beyond the back of the big awards of so many americans. right. i mean, it's a so it's sort of hard, tangled. but yet me, the question is, will there be such a reaction from older americans in this moment to what younger americans believe in what they look like, the way in which they act? will there be such a reaction that we're actually going to see democracy itself? obviously seems bathrooms on tested on january 6th. we seen the test it in 2020 to a luncheon with more favorable results for democracy. but that's the real question . will there be will america, which is now much more diverse than it was back in the baby boom? era even prior will america be able to successfully move forward as a multicultural democracy?

i think so, but this is a moment which that's being tested. yeah, i think a lot of people around the world, especially here in europe, are hoping that you are right mr. buck phillip bump author of the aftermath the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america. we appreciate your time. appreciate you taking the time to talk about your new book. it's a great read. thank you. thank. but the day's almost done. the conversation continues online, you'll find it on twitter, either dw, do you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see that everybody

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