[000:00:00;00] ah, to day you as president joe biden paid an unannounced visit to ukraine, and he offered the ukranian president the following a big hug. another $500000000.00 in military aid and a promise to help ukraine fight the russian invasion for as long as it takes. in the meantime, the fighting rage is all this week. this war here in the middle of europe will enter. it's a 2nd year and an end is nowhere in sight. i'm burnt off in berlin. this is the day, [000:00:00;00] ah, food and thought ukraine was weak. in the west was divided is just plain wrong.

she a little but that in the whole of europe and the democratic well must support the clearing of all ukrainian land from russian occupation. that freedom is price. it's worse party for, for as long as it take the only one we can and must make this year 2023. the victory applied in america, stand with you and the world stands with you. also coming up china and russia. there's is a friendship with no limits. could that mean chinese weapons to help russian soldiers attack ukraine? the, are concerned that a china is considering us supporting russia's war effort in ukraine with lethal assistance. something that we're watching very,

very close. but i think china understands what's a, what's at risk. we're to proceed with providing material support of that kind to, to russia. ah, to our viewers watching or pbf in the united states. ain't you all of you around the world? welcome. we begin the day with symbolism intended to stick and sting. to day you as president biden paid a visit to cave and stood side by side with ukrainian president zalinski, a u. s. president. inside an active war zone, an unprecedented image that was meant for 2 very different audiences. first, the ukranian people biden to de promised american solidarity and he backed up his pledge with another half a $1000000000.00 in military aid for ukraine. in today's symbolic photo op was also meant for the eyes of russian president vladimir putin. and in your face show of defiance which the kremlin dismissed as a political sta. a gesture of

solidarity, and a vital reminder of unity between the u. s. in ukraine against russian aggression air raid sirens blared across the ukrainian capital during u. s. president joe biden surprise visit. there were no reports of russian air strikes, but the sound is still a clear reminder that ukraine is under constant attack. making support from the u. s. more important now than ever, i'm here sure. and we're very supportive from the national french sovereignty and, and territorial integrity. and today i hope we have a chance to discuss our united states and our allies are keeping constant contact group on our partners can most effectively support you and your current. your cause to present ukrainian president followed amir soleski voice his gratitude to the

huge moment, supporting lee gray. and ah, what can i say? i really appreciate that president water america, society being from the where we've, you know, all this tragedy on the world. you know, this poor kid war on being together with god feels full of supportive was from. why now to you, graham? and thank you for your leadership. thanks by boxes or thanks, congress. i think that is historical moment for all, for all concert the 2 presidents paid tribute at the wall of remembrance to the thousands of ukrainian soldiers who have lost their lives since 2014 biden's visit comes at

a crucial moment in the war. as the us needs to keep allies unified in their support for ukraine is ukraine is to send off russian offensives in the spring. an important day, an important week for you, chris, to talk about that. i'm joined now by alexander chevrolet. he is a former ambassador to austria from ukraine. he's also the author of ukraine versus darkness, a collection of essays based on the 2 and a half decades that he spent as a career diplomat in speech writer for ukrainian leaders better. it's good to have you back on the program. when i'd start by asking you about what we saw today and keep you as president biden visiting keith, it's been a long time coming. what does it mean to the people of ukraine to the military of ukraine, that the u. s. president actually set foot there today? well, it's a great just, it's a very encouraging gesture for ukraine ukrainians for those fighting on the front

line. quite frankly, american and american presidents were usually very reluctant to the ukraine last long. the last one visiting was the jury. w bush and a lot of your friends and all of them had this, you know, hero, very tasting russia and joe biden. finally show american president has courage, has the ability to not only to be called the leader free world, but at the leader of the free world. because what the date was exactly our american president, the leader of the world, should be behaving made of the major assault against the democracy and freedom that brought me almost a year already. you as president biden, he has been called the consoler in chief. and that title struck me today when we

saw him lay a wreath at a monument to fallen ukrainian soldiers. what went through your mind watching that he was a powerful moment i saw lead to the source, the days of this full blown war around. my president biden was among those leaders in the west who didn't believe in ukraine, didn't give my chance to crane. i'm quite frank and nobody did we, everybody was giving us 0 chance of, you know, someone in 15 days or in the month yet. here we are. and i think her hold her in a way you frame whoa hood world and the made the world around the more courageous, including the united fate. there was a military aid on the agenda. again today we understand that the u. s. president

announced a further $500000000.00 us dollars in military aid for ukraine. it take us if you could, based on what you've experienced inside the room, what, what would president to live? he and his advisors. what will they have said to president biden today? while they are, i suppose they were discussing very frankly what is needed to things a to so the ongoing offensive rather trying to be on the offensive. the le mom the even had some tutorial gains on the wrong line. we are very confident that the western support will. busy stop it, but we will need exactly that. what, what's wrong today more? i'm a nation more anti tank systems miss. so at some point

you in the next month. so more tanks and so, but more tanks and by the just this is what we need. first of all, for the 2nd thing for the upcoming ukrainian, we would think, well, grade the course of this war in favor of ukraine and will bring the rectory during the course of this year. and there's more than just military aid that you ukraine, the, i'm thinking about energy, infrastructure, humanitarian support. i mean, those needs are still dire as well. warranty. what's very important is the direct and then direct, but budgetary, because the, the government to function partly the economy is done. so

we depend on the outside help for, you know, pain pensions, or waiting our soldiers on the brand line. so the peninsula report is very important and it's very urgent that our western partners understand that one is being given to crated up. busy small price to pay. busy more than hitler who has no intention of coming in ukraine will discuss with them to get the tv shows every day, a little goal, where they are on towards berlin. why? so london? i want to ask you about china for a moment, over the weekend at the munich security conference, we heard from the chinese top diplomat, beijing plans to announce a a peace plan if you will, for this war. what do you craniums, what did they make of this possible chinese proposal?

well, china has been acting very broad magic racial so far in the way that they have been confirming this support for your brain. so are in warranty for the integrity of the brain. that's one thing that, you know, certainly they haven't been fairly involved supporting russia. definitely russia was counting. and i think this is because nobody would be back and forth to say, rasa is anything about winning this war. so for shy to come, how making bad the russia would be, winning wouldn't be right. and the whole whole plan would be in the

upcoming days would be once again irrational step and not something insane. like entering this war and decided russian. and that's, let me just ask before we run out of time, what about there are reports that the united states has reason to be concerned that china may be sending lethal aid to russia that could be used against your country. if that's the case, that doesn't sound like a country that's being very pragmatic at all. yeah, no. doesn't, doesn't mean that. so, china is making just the beginning of the year ago, and the china didn't learn anything from russian mistakes during this year. i hope it will be the case. alexander shivered, joining us tonight from keith as always, whichever we appreciate your time and your valuable insights. thank you. thank you . with china, despite its no limits, friendship with russia, it's largely been seen as

a bystander in russia's invasion of ukraine. but as we have said, that may be about to change your secretary of state anthony blake and says that china may start providing lethal support, arms and ammunition to russia. and as this conflict drags on china seems to have it sites on reshaping the global order. rushes, frontline and ukraine has advanced, retreated an inch to fool it since its invasion a year ago. but one thing has stayed constant. european hopes that russia's biggest ally could push it to end the destruction, but av beaker she should get. that is important for us that china does not choose russia side. chavez. i said to president, she, that it's important for china to exert its influence on russia. china has often called for peace negotiations, da da,

da honda. we have both talked about the current ukraine crisis. we, she and the 2 sides both hoped that this crisis could be ended. as soon as possible . the situation can be eased and it really must not be escalated. but beijing looks reluctant to clip russian wings before russia are invaded to ukraine. president, she and who sinned declared a no limits partnership between their countries to zillow and they've met in person since then. and more face to face meetings, i'll plan more am because m putin didn't win the war quickly sought to rethink its relationship while keeping this very strong alliance intact. so china's main focus is to make sure that it continues to trade heavily with the west, while also maintaining its close friendship with, with russia local. so some one limit on this, no limits. partnership may be russians, threats to use nuclear weapons in the conflict. in

a statement president, she called on the international community to jointly oppose such a move. but china may be offering russia material support in the war, despite threats of more sanctions from the u. s. government u. s. based security research is c for a d. s alleged that chinese companies are exporting equipment to sanctioned russian defense firms. but paging says its exports to russia are in line with its laws. china is already benefiting from the war in ukraine in other ways. russia now needs china more than china, needs russia, and em, i think china is always prepared to, to use this leverage that it has to its own advantage. i'm on, i think it's hoping it's already taking advantage of cheap energy. it's also looking at the invasion of ukraine to see what it could mean for its own ambitions

and in taiwan and in the south china sea. as moscow's trip struggle on in ukraine, shiner is working towards its long term goal of expanding its board as an influence on the global stage. ah, well, more than 7000 kilometers away from the battlefields and eastern ukraine. cambodia is providing valuable de mining training to ukrainian troops. now this comes after cambodian prime minister who's said offered the help to ukranian president voldemort zalinski in a telephone conversation last november. my advice i seen the day tinker is being taught how to carry out to control it explosion yet he is part of a team of 15 ukrainian soldiers who are in cambodia for a week to be trained in d mining techniques. voice lori helpful training. it was so interesting for us

because because if sir grown penetration, rob darcy, alice, it's maria, it's very important or how to know how to provide the mining how to operate. and it will be very helpful for a clean our territory from russian mines. only our loaner from the expert cambodia is one of the most minor affected countries in the world. after decades of what an internal conflict that ended in 1998, there are still up to 6000000 unexploded devices lifting the country. organizations like the cambodian mine action center are working to clear them. now a country faced with an ongoing conflict is benefiting from that expertise since russia in reading ukraine last february, the country has been working on creating thousands of mines left across its territory. but the training had in cambodia is only the 1st step. the following

will be center experts to pull into train ukrainians using the same equipment and a p a but will train them according to the situation in europe. because now we're only training them here in cambodia it other than one must see the situation. there's different companies. so that's why we'll continue this training in europe where they can apply the equipment at technology to a real situation in the clinical thought. mahatma exec collaboration that will hopefully help to save thousands of life. ah, some republicans want. so security, sunset, i'm not say this majority o, as we all apparently agree. so security, medicare's often off the books now in his state of the union address earlier this month,

you as president by mentioned america's senior citizens. at least we counted at least 9 times and that wasn't by chance. america's population is getting greater every day, more than 11000 people hit retirement age. the baby boomer generation is leaving the workforce the working world, just as they entered it. in unprecedented numbers from 1946 to 964, the u. s. population exploded by $76000000.00 a generation so large, it define not only the united states, but also much of the post war global order. but that is no longer the case. in his book, the aftermath, the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america, phillip bump poses the question, what will happen to us when the boomers are gone in fil a bumpy joints. vi now it's good to have you on the program. let me ask you, mr. bump is america, is the world prepared for a post boomer future?

well, i think the world and american particularly need to prepare for the we know the roman dumb, and one of the patterns that we've seen with the baby boom. since the onset was, is match. the surgeon people forced the concrete and frank deal with them. right. and one of the things that we're seeing right in this moment is we have not been prepared if you, with this surge retirees, to the point that by making his speech. so 1st that at this moment, are we prepared to deal with what follows? well, it depends to rating stay what the boomers do, while they still retain power, which they do still do a disproportionate level. i'm wondering how wide would you say the generation gap between boomers and millennials? is what even asked about genetics genetics? we, we get ignored a lot, but the grammy's earlier this month you write that?

no one over 30 recognizes the grammy winners and no one under 30 watches. the grammy's talk to me about that. yeah, the grammys are sort of this interesting microcosm in that, hey, there this cultural for dealing with culture in particular, but be, they're broadcast on television and therefore not the medium that young people see . obviously they're still going to see them on, you know, tick, tock, segments on so forth. but it's really a good encapsulation of that. and by who older americans do tend to watch tv more younger people who get their news elsewhere. and the ways in which that manifests in other ways when it comes to things like young people being able to make talking to an oil or people getting their faces in a way that wasn't possible that years ago. it's sort of this microcosm of the ways in which the media environment itself overlaps on generational mind. and if we go expand this beyond a pop culture, is the definition of the united states?

is that definition? is it changing as the baby boomers exit the stage? yeah, absolutely. one of the things about that is that it began at a real low and american immigration, or a new restrictions on immigration placed in the united states that weren't lifted until the baby boom. baby boom is a much wider generation than generations that following particularly the millennials, etc. and so we see that the actual composition, the nature of america itself, is different between older and younger, and a lot of other things to where people are better educated. their last long political parties are less religious. there are these other devices as well, but the composition of the united states itself is different now than it was when the baby boom became and very tangible way. you describe the exit of the boomers in your book here. we wanna, we want to pull that up. you right. we've seen generational tensions before, but we're now living through something exceptional, a decline,

not of the spartan civilization, but of the roman one we are living through. they historic disruption of the american empire. i mean, that's quite a statement decline of the roman empire and need to me that implies gigantic disruption in the u. s. into the u. s. and also to the entire world. well, yeah, i mean, that is true. i mean, i mentioned more from the standpoint of this very defining thing, overarching superstructure for a lot of what united states is, is now big, right? yes, we believe that there are fairly quickly nation class. but when you go back to like this, it took some time and we're seeing that sort of dismantling of the baby boomer. well, it's not still going to be wrong. it's still going to be looking for that different stuff. and there will be an error i period in which things are pretty shaky out, i think is what we're seeing right now. you, you also right in this book,

this caught my eye that you don't know whether or not we will still have a constituted united states in 40 years. are the baby boomers, are they the glue that has a old america together? i want to say the baby boomers are lived together beyond the back of the day or so, so many americans. right. i mean, it's a heart isn't tangled, but yeah, me, the question is, will there be such a reaction from older americans in this moment to what younger americans believing what they look like the way in which they act? will there be such a reaction that we're actually going to see democracy? so obviously we've seen the specimens on that to that january 6th. we've seen test it in 2020 to a luncheon with more favorable results for democracy. but that's the real question . will there be will america, which is now much more diverse than it was back in a group or even prior will america be able to successfully move forward as

a multicultural democracy? i think. but this is a moment which that's being tested. yeah, and i think a lot of people around the world, especially here in europe, are hoping that you are right mister bob, phil above author of the aftermath, the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america. we appreciate your time, appreciate you taking the time to talk about your new book. it's a great read. thank you. thank but the day's almost done the conversation that continues online. you'll find it on twitter, either a d w, do. you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see that everybody

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