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ever thought about how strange it was that i had my dog with one hand while i ate a pork chop with the other. what is the alternative and how does it taste? it's like the real thing, yes. will we all be beginning 50 years? as a new very, she was strong arguments to keep hunting animals, a documentary series about the future of food. the great debate this week on t w that is the dublin years asia coming up to date the philippines as china challenge. manila is accused beijing of violating its sovereignty. after the chinese ship flashed elisa to filipino ship in a disputed part of the south china sea. the philippines, foreign secretary tells d. w why such incidents are troubling to really explain it to them. our only
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hope is that they would refrain what if they're going to eat, at least sometime to, to do it in a more friendly way rather than in a laser. ah, irish manage. you're welcome to did up your news asia. glad you could join us, philippines president fed man marco's junior, has bowed not to lose one inch of territory. days after the face off between a chinese and philippines coast guard ship in the south china sea. manila sees the chinese coast guards ship pointed a military grade lisa, at the crew of the filipino ship, blinding them temporarily the confrontation, docker the other sprightly islands that the philippines games is part of its territory. china disputes the came along with similar themes from other countries
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over islands in the south china sea d w. generic do. milan has been speaking to the philippines, foreign secretary, enrique him, and low about the growing tensions she began by asking him what the philippine is doing to prevent what is now a regular harassment by china of its vessels. there is nothing renews on dyes with the harassment. i mean it's not new vessels. it's also fishermen. we of course, have approached china almost regularly every time we learn of a situation and really when we explain it to them, our only hope is that they would refrain. but if they're going to impede at least sometimes they should do it in a more friendly way. rather than pointing a laser, what's a more friendly way? well, they can at least ask us not to proceed to this certain to this area, but it doesn't mean that we would necessarily agree,
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but unfortunately that's the situation. now, in certain parts of the south china sea, which are actually part of our exclusive economic zone, where we actually have the right to take advantage of whatever resources are there . and not the that se prevented from doing so. actually it's, it will sound to, to them preventing us from using parts of our exclusive economic zone. the problem is they deny that they actually have prevented us from doing it. sometimes i say that they did not really prevent us. they were just guiding us away from certain area. so it's, it's, it's one of those things. now, it's been quite a few years since the philippines, one, it's arbitration case in the hague. china, of course, still seems determined to ignore it. how has this ruling really helped the philippines then? well, it has confirmed at least the fact that the, the chinese claim, or the so called 9 dash line,
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does not hold water and is inconsistent with the un convention on the sea. and because of this, we have garnered support from various countries on the interpretation about ruling . of course, china does not recognize the rulings. all we can really do at this stage is, is continue to distress the rule of law. and if there any differences or disputes, they should be settled in accordance with the rule of law. now you've spoken of support. of course, this week when official has said that washington and manila are exploring joint coast guard patrols, washington is also increasing its military presence in the philippines. how would you describe the philippine position now in terms of balancing us in china ties? well, you know, as of every country in the region, we're faced with the growing us china rivalry. actually, what is these arrangements we have with united states that are really part of our
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existing treaty, the mutual defense 3 d, and more specifically the visiting forces agreements and but many of these operations are really aimed that improving our humanitarian disasters or natural disasters. aside from perhaps also serving if necessary, trading in case we run any security threats. president marcus has articulated that the philippines will be a friend to all and an enemy to non. this will clearly not always be possible, especially given that the u. s. and the philippines or treaty allies, what sort of red lines does the philippines have? that would make it invoke the mutual defense treaty, that it has with a u. s. being friends to all or friends, it doesn't necessarily mean you don't have any problems with your friends or any issues. but we as friends, the, the whole idea is if we have differences, we should try and resolve them peacefully, or at least
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a friendly way. that's what we're trying to say. and in the case of china, we do have extensive relations with china, especially on the economic front. and there's always been this understanding, at least for the past few years, that the differences we have in the westfield, b, c, or south trying to see or not the sum total of our relationship. nevertheless, we do have differences there. so while we wish to, let's say enhance our economic ties. and we also need to address the challenges we face in the south china sea. all right, let's get more context on the phone and secretaries remarks from richard head area . and he's also a columnist and political scientist and an expert in philippines, china type richard from the foreign secretary saying, do you get the impression that the philippines has a new way to tackle an old challenge from china in the south china sea?
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well, it's hard to say that, oh, there's a new way here, or we're dealing with the old challenge because on the one hand, the challenge from chinese and evolving challenge as far as the philippines is concerned, we're not only facing fritz in the south china sea area where we hop dirt, or least we china, but now the invasion of taiwan is increasing probability, right. and there even discussions of that happening within the coming years if not come decades. so now the philippines is also worried about the potential ramifications of a chinese invasion or any kind of serious minutes. our operations against taiwan, which by to weight is separated from the philippines by a very narrow straight. so the threat from chinese not as not evolving and at the same time, the philippines strategies also adjusting accordingly. so the market junior administration policy is on like any of the previous administration, is your administration precise because it's friendly or to china than previous liberal reforms administration, but definitely tougher also in china than the previous deterred administration.
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it's interesting you mentioned time on because i did want to muse on taiwan and we did asked of audience extra about that that's coming up in a bit. but just staying in the south china sea, china has refused to consider with the philippines. is saying is entropy, it also does not accept the 2016 ruling from the haves. international arbitration cold that essentially room china does not have a claim or the so trying to see what options does the philippines really have. well, actually i would have argued it more forcefully than the philippine foreign secretary. i think the philippine arbitration, the word actually is an extremely useful. first of all, have you not these chinese not using the term 9 dash line anymore because it knows that it's a legal joke that it's a diplomatic liability. so since the word came out, china is coming up with alternative ideas and alternate. adopt trends that have also been struck down and ridiculous and marked by global experts. so actually it's working because chinese itself is rethinking its diplomatic positioning in the language and do this when it comes to the claim number to the philippine arbitration award,
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actually provided the legal pretext for the united states to expand its military prisons in the area, particularly in terms of what you called fried off navigation operations. over the past few years, we have seen dozens of american war ships getting close to the chinese artificially created islands and challenging chinese claims. and now we see even european countries coming in, not as aggressive as the united states, but legal, aggressive, diplomatic, aggressive. and sometimes we see the french, the europeans also passing through with their worships to also send a signal. so to be honest, i think the philippines is not recognizing how effective its policy has been, but that's my argument. it has been effective but not, but we have to leverage its further in prison. markets has been very clear. it's non negotiable. the philippines has no territory, disputes we china, because china claims in the philippine waters are inconsistent with international law. i'm glad talking to you and getting some context out of the foreign secretaries remarks. but as you mentioned, the threat from taiwan and what the, the tensions over that island could also impact the philippines and my colleague,
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janelle did ask for the secretary me, and i know about that is what he said, the valves, the, the plans. but there are plans, but our policy here is really to see that nothing serious happens. i mean, no military conflict occurs and i want because our view is that, well, 1st of all, say from the fact we have 100. 50000 i want is only the southern most steep of taiwan is only about 70 can ometer is from the northern most tip of the philippines in the lusan. so obviously, any, any military conflict there will most likely directly affect the names. richard, is this the rationale, you think behind grunting the u. s. military access to philippine military bases in the north of the country? i mean, 1st of all is keep in mind,
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you cannot choose your neighbors. so our geography with taiwan is something we cannot negotiate. it's there and any major show down there between china and taiwan, united states is going to affect us, which brings us to the number 2 issue. when you already have a treaty or last your brother prepare for that situation than just standing under the on the sidelines. because the philippines cannot be neutral. visa of a u. s. even actual war happens. allies cannot be neutral. not having said that. it's interesting. they say, you know, it takes an nixon to go to china. you could also argue that it takes a marker junior to correct the excesses of a did. there's administration, i think president did there to went a bit too far in use. our strategic flirtation, we china, and also with his animosity towards the west. so marcus junior, who is a suppose it alla of the deter, this is ashley correcting that. my warn is that he might be over correcting that and doing things too fast, because it makes sense for the philippines to solidify its alliance with the united states. but the war we have is that we might get too much involved in the u. s.
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preparations for to tie one war. and we might give soft very creep basis in northern most areas of the philippines, access to the americans to those bases. and that might provoke china and create reactions that we may not be prepared for. so i am glad we're the direction of you'd been foreign was about it. busy of some misgivings about how fasting serve moving the past 67 months. really we have about a minute left to go present. macos was in bridging in january that, that visit helped. remissions. i think that visit was extremely crucial precisely because it showed the limits of diplomacy. you know, we keep on saying friends to all enemy to none, but how can we be friends, the countries that are not acting like france if not like enemies, right. so if you look at his visit to china, it was only 2 days. he brought 200 people with him, but we got barely any breakthrough on the south, china, the disputes and guess what? also barely any breakthrough on all of those on feel. feel chinese promises to the philippines. i called it pledge dropped not dead trapped because my investment came in, but to tear, to gave all sorts of concessions. so marcus learned his lesson,
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and his recalibrating reserve her better known as a pleasure, talking to relieve with her. thanks so much for joining us. of her pleasure, lois and that does it for today. there's more from the region on our website, the deborah dot com, forward slash geisha, and as over as you can follow us on facebook and twitter back tomorrow. at the same time with we're all set to go beyond vs citizenship and we're all live as we take on the we're all about the stories that matter to you.
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