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ah, we take it back and into the future. in slowing in february d w. ah, ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin hooton's as fans, russia's participation in its last major arms control treaty with the u. s. president vladimir putin announces the move during a state of the union aggress attempting to justify for war in ukraine. in response
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to the west and ukraine present a united front against content. nato urge as the crime went to reverse its decision . also coming up on me in the last month my friends would contact the police kept saying that my time had come to make a run for it. why hundreds of thousands of russians have left their homeland since the invasion of ukraine boss. new earthquakes in southern turkey strike another blow to recovery efforts. at least 6 people are killed in a region already devastated by natural disaster. ah. hello, i'm richardson. thank you so much for joining us. russia is suspending its last major nuclear disarmament treaty with united states. president vladimir putin
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announced the move during an address to the nation. the new start treaty commits russia and the united states to limiting their stock pile of nuclear warheads. it came into force in 2011 and was due to expire in 2026 foot, and also warned washington that if the us presumed nuclear tests, russia will do the same. his audience of lawmakers agreed at the statement with applause. ah well for you, i repeat what russia is, you don't withdrawing from the treaty. no, no, but even ladies suspending his participation. but before returning to the discussion of this issue, we should understand for ourselves what such countries of the north atlantic treaty alliance like france and great britain claim years ago. from and high, we will take into account their strategic arsenals. that is the alliances combined strike potential, which through our company would bear only but them so alliance. earlier,
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our correspondent year aver shadow enrica told me what russia suspension of the new start treaty nice. well, as the purpose of this treated clear is to reduce nuclear weapons, it's the only remaining element of the nuclear arms control treaties system between the united states and russia. and the 2 countries hold together about 90 percent of the world's nuclear warheads, which is pretty much so we should be pretty worried about this suspension or the treaty provides for mutual inspections on nuclear facilities on each other's territory. so that each side can make sure that the other side doesn't deploy more nuclear well warheads than agreed a month ago with united states already used to rush of refusing to assist you, asked those inspections mosque or threatened to withdraw from the treat in 2026 completely and now this suspension comes put in explained to step by saying that united states and united states would be developing allegedly new types of nuclear
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weapons. and russia should be ready to conduct nuclear tests. now, tell us your a more broadly about putin's speech. this is his annual state of the union, but obviously this year taking place under exceptional circumstances. what were some of the other major themes? well, the more arms west and ukraine is supplied by the rest. he sat to defer the russian push those arms back away for with the russian border. that was probably an indication that russia might try to annex more ukrainian territories in his speech . and any case in any case that this was a warning to ukraine and have warning to the west, 1st of all, to the united states. by the way, just in our after put in speech, the russian foreign ministry us among you as a monte. what? yes, massa to moscow and expressed a diplomatic protest because of the growing involvement of the united states. it still, it is on the site of ukraine. if a sate in a statement, basically it's the old fashioned way to reverse all accusations made against russia
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and to accused the rest of the same of the same. and put in speech was an attempt to convince the goal to that, that the danger doesn't come from russia, but from the west for russia. now, he is speaking to a domestic audience there. what kind of support does he have almost a year since russia's invasion of ukraine quote many, or maybe it, most people in russia have long since given up the attitude to protest. most say it doesn't matter what's happening in ukraine was going on there unless the mobilization, the effects of them personally let it be put in north of that. and that's why the 2nd part of his speech are the, the larger one was about as his social policy of his government. also, he said that that presidential elections will be held in 2024. so next year in accordance with russian law. so is his speech today earlier, as a russian president clearly wanted to be seen, not only as the president of war, but rather as the president of bees, which is logical if you keep in mind he's ambitious to run for the president's and
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next year, one more time thank you so much for that update that dw uria re shadow, enrica lafayette. really appreciate it. well, nato secretary general yen stilton burke is urging russia to reconsider suspending its participation in the new start treaty. suttonberg has been meeting ukraine's foreign minister to metro caliber and the you foreign policy chief justice brow at nato headquarters in brussels. and sultan burger gave a start warning over the possible consequences of the gremlins. no more nuclear weapons and law had less arms control makes the world more dangerous. and thus, the reason why innate to we are worth so hard earned to engage russia on issues rated to arms control and wanted while i so supported the new start. and also why i'm calling on russia today to reconsider it's a decision to suspend his participation the new,
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the start agreement. we have to remember this is a one of the last major arms control agreements. we have officer rashaw started to violate the agreement that the bound the older into media drange weapons the i and if treated that lead to the my so got her treated a few years ago or now there are. so suspending the older big nuclear arms control treaty or the new start which regulates put limits on the total number of long range strategic weapons. and i'm very pleased to welcome john j sullivan. until last september, he served as us ambassador to russia and was previously he was deputy deputy secretary of state. welcome sir. thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us. we had this major announcement in that speech that putin is suspending rushes participation in the new start treaty in your view. how worried should we be here? well, thank you sir. it's great,
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great to be with you. this is so regrettable and irresponsible moved by the russian government, but it's something that they'd already signal they had already in effect suspended, participating in the treaty some time ago. by declining request that the u. s. made for inspections, which we, which the united states is entitled to have under the treaty. it's not something that russia gives us. it's something we're entitled to under the treaty. they've also refused to meet in this group called a bilateral consultative established by the treaty. we're both sides are supposed to talk about issues under the tree. they've declined to allow inspections or to meet and discuss the treaty. they'd already suspended participation. what i think significant, clear is proven went further than that. he said he wants to know what great britain and france are doing before he resumes participation in the treaty. this is a signal that he is going to withdraw, in my opinion, because the,
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this new start treaty is a treaty between the united states and russia. only under the an era for arms control in that sense potentially it's what he signally and why is he signaling this? because his warn you crane is going so disastrously wrong for him. this is more nuclear blackmail, nuclear saber rattling by the russian government by president. he's done it before . this is he's not taking the final step now and withdrawn from the treaty, what he's signaling that he's going to do it. now lincoln has left the door open to restarting negotiations at any time to think there's anything the u. s. could have done differently to keep this treaty alive, or is this a reduced reason for the u. s. to change its nuclear posture? well, clear. we've been, we've been engaged with the russians to try to get this treaty reinvigorated to get inspections under way to meet in the treaty established process.
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to discuss issues that may arise under the treaty. and the russians have simply refused, and their excuse has nothing to do with the treaty itself. with the deputy foreign minister said some weeks ago was because the united states is so hostile to russia, in connection with ukraine. russia is going to participate in the new start tree. what does that say about their attitude, even at the depths of the cold war? the united states and the soviet union continued to have discussions on arms control agreements when potent saying now is given what's happened in ukraine to my special military operation. if this continues to go downhill, the new start treaty and maybe others, you know, other actions by me, you're going to be going to be coming. now. you stayed in moscow after the invasion of ukraine and all the way up until september 2022. what changes did you observe in
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russian society since the invasion of ukraine? well, there was a certain amount of fatalism among the russians that i engaged with. many were afraid to discuss their true feelings about what was happening because the russian government has been engaged in an enormous crack down on independent media and g o z and so forth. i think a lot of people are afraid to speak their minds, but clear, i'm afraid to say there are a lot of russians who over years being fed russian dis, information are prepared to believe the absolutely untrue statements by booting today. that somehow the word that he launched in ukraine was actually a war, a war launched by the united states and our allies and partners loose on its head. it would make george orwell lush, the, you know, the types of misstatements that he's, he's making. but unfortunately, the russian government has been gazed at this information campaign directed at its
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own people, such that they are prepared to believe. many russians are prepared to believe the untruth that president is speaking today. and i also want to ask you as we look at the prospect of a grinding war of attrition in ukraine. what is your view on how and when negotiations between ukraine and russia might be possible? is there a scenario in which they could be productive? i clear, given my experience before the war started i in my involvement with the u. s. government and our efforts to negotiate with the russians to stop the war before it started. i can tell you from my experience and all i've seen since it began, the russian government has no interest in good faith negotiations with anyone over ukraine. president of guten, is dead set on achieving the goals of his special military operation. he doesn't want to offer him, he doesn't want a good faith negotiations. she wants to render by ukraine,
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which is what they say would be the cost of negotiation. so i don't see a willing interlocutor on the other side player who would engage in negotiations at this point. only when hooton's thought that he could not achieve the goals of the special military operation which are where they repeated very often to de, not certify and demilitarize ukraine, which i interpret as removing the democratically elected government and subjugating the people of ukraine. only when he really believes he can accomplish that. would he engage in negotiations and he believes he can accomplish those close today. thank this. thank you sir. so much for sharing your insight. i'm afraid we're running out of time and have to leave it there by want to thank you again for taking the time to speak with us on tito by as former u, as in boston to russia at john j sullivan. hundreds of thousands of russians have fled their home when since the invasion of ukraine,
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some left because they fear being called up to fight. the others simply disagree with the war. any one whose openly protesting against the conflict does risk a long prison sentence. he thought the 0 shadow has spoken to 3 russians. who left home? yeah, graham, his chest. i have been living in what is sorry for 2 and a half months. let me. i came here to dance tango. that was the reason why don bay am lewis my was and still am an opposition politician. i immediately said one year ago on february 24th. yep. that this is a crime one. when we had a normal life, i was a pharmacist and my husband worked at the airport so we wanted to buy an apartment and have children, but all of that is now destroyed. so. so buffalo problem, when yeah, when you deal with it, he is, the guy had always wanted to go abroad. i knew originally to spain, what last year my plans changed the feeling of insecurity that was spreading all over russia. maybe decide to leave the country now to watch the boys of kids. he
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gets his chest. mm. mm. honestly, yes. in the last month, my friends with context to the police kept saying that my time had come to make a run for a new phillip nimble butter leagues. mm yarbrough . as i am a train pharmacist, i was considered eligible for military service, and my husband is under 36. so both of us could have been drafted his us, when this danger became real life in russia was over for us, a lot of go let go until it, ah, will william, could that a certain point? my lectures were cancelled one after the other. when i got a call from the management of the university, and then i received a call from someone else when you this was worrying, so i decided to move away. the red line for me was that one day they might close the border. so m a perspective as a christian grenades, i see as i was in one year,
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it became tougher and tougher in russia and the population became more and more divided into those who don't mind what is going on. uneven support. what's happening there and those who are against it. if we, if i get her with that, if she is 30, we knew a shania for young. all of a sudden my future was completely uncertain. bully, she was there was that peter, that the other was asking a few weeks before my departure, i signed an open letter to the state duma bloom demanding putin's resignation between north because all information in russia is now controlled and it became clear to me that such actions and you are no longer have any impact on when you veto. so the congestion you could clean but fresh it unless lay my parents and i were already fighting before the war started. and now the war has only made it worse in their minds. there is only great russia and crimea is ours now will fly over him at bruno, at a certain point. many people wanted to leave russia. some went to kazakhstan to
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turkey and other different countries. this number of refugees was considerable. me on yesterday was actually i don't have the feeling that russian society overwhelmingly supports this war. yeah, no, but yet right at that, would you rather or it is frustrating that there is no way no plan yet. okay. no possibility to change the situation. thought my uncle, i surround myself with people who do not speak of politics when he gave when you are ready. okay, and of course there's a relatively small group of die hard nazis in russia. folks, these are the people who stick the symbolic letter z on their cars that but i haven't met very many of them please, nor yang justin because it seemed gazelle at 1st. no one thought that it would last long. but when we were about to leave russia, no one had any doubt that it would continue. that only shows up what i just, i feel absolutely free here my lives. and the most important thing for me are the
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people you know, when your eyes meet on the street, they smile at you guys when i go buy it because that i give private lessons in chemistry online. i currently only have one student and that's not enough. so i am living off my savings folks losing your thing. russia will not disappear. yes. yeah, it will remain there with all its nuclear weapons. it's prejudices and a host of problems. you know, unfortunately you have to resolve all of these problems, largely to shreds or, you know, if we return one day, we will do it and continue to help russia develop into a free and strong country. genuinely powerful. not just because it threatens its neighbors. don't go with la branson, you bought this. it him. my dear hope is there, and it remains after making a surprise visit to your crane, u. s. president joe biden is now in warsaw. widen, has met polish president on j duda, along with leaders of other countries on nato's eastern flank. he was president's
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diplomatic mission comes just days before the 1st anniversary of the invasion of ukraine. till these alexander phenomena told me about the meeting between joe biden and the polish president on jail, judah. ah, well, when we speak to the people here who are already gathering, answered the ancient royal pallet at the royal castle in war. so we're president biden. the will hold, he is too much anticipated speech, as you can see behind me, so one to speak to ordinary citizens and also polish office officials. they tell you cannot overrate this visit. poland has been among their own, the strongest supporters of ukraine. they took in 1500000 refugees from that ukraine. they provide $2000000000.00 you asked dollars worth of weapons. and they of course, want to know that you asked if they are biggest and reliable partner. and that is why you as president joe biden reiterated here, describing poland as
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a crucial partner for the you, as they will also talk behind closed doors about you as the troops on the polish soil. there are 10000 of them already there are rotating by turbine and has made clear dad said at the you as wanted, they wanted to establish a permanent basis here. so all of that is on the agenda here today. and it's quite a seen there behind you, alexandra, in this heat from bite. and later today, do you think he's going to respond directly to claims from russian president vladimir putin? well, we can assume dead biden se advisors watched. put in speech, even though i don't think that they are going to rewrite joe biden speech to that he is expected to hold later this afternoon. but of course, this speech is going to be seen as a kind of risk ponds and said by then we'll certainly reviewed the claims that are
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lagging a booty made, for instance, to claim that it was the ukraine and nato that had started this war. it's a lion bite and we'll probably speak it's dee wolf. of course also builds on. he stays on the cave that he made in here, that this is a battle between democracy. i now tell christine and the former has been winning this battle. like he so much we are reporting as dw brussels bureau chief alessandra phenomena reporting from warsaw will 2 more earthquakes have hit the border region between syria and turkey. rescue teams are once again searching for people trapped under the rubble. the tremors struck minutes apart just 2 weeks after earthquakes killed tens of thousands of people in the same ha tie province. the latest tremors were felt as far away as lebanon, and egypt turkeys. interior minister says at least 6 people have been killed and
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hundreds injured, with more anguish and terrill for the people of turkey and syria. the morning afternoon, earthquakes struck rescue while cousin hut, i will back to the difficult woke of digging through rubble and pulling out people some of whom did not survive families of reeling under the trauma of so suddenly losing their loved ones. for what i province in southern toki felt due tremulous on monday and nearly 90 aftershocks over night. buildings are left sliding on to streets oldest just 2 weeks after a devastating old quake killed molden 45000 people and damaged or destroyed hundreds of thousands of homes. on monday night, this dash gun footage caught the new quakes with
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and streets became the safest place to be wine of who i needed to do same feel you the same feeling of unease. we cannot and i inside run. if we do, we cannot stay. we don't know, we don't know what to do. god have mercy on us. there's nothing to say in neighboring city or to the earthquake brought new panic. is it the leonard amazon rehab? i'm is it hello. everyone started screaming when the old quaker code people were panicking and started crying and screaming and bought and shock. when i had that old on our la, it's a sad reality of life. you know right now people living on a precipice from one minute to the next. well, germany's foreign and inter ministers are visiting some of the worst hit areas in turkey and either correspond, julia han is with them. you little more can you tell us?
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are the ministers, the message today was and i believe they've made that very clear. germany will stand by the us quake survive is here in turkey and in syria as they battle the aftermath of this disaster. they have expressed their condolences to all those who have lost a loved one under the rubble and almost everybody here in the quaking region has they have expressed their deeply felt sympathies and their holiday charity. we actually joined the ministers during a visit to one of the tent camps here in the area and pathology in the province of car among marsh. that was one of the rather well organized camp sites set out by the turkish does also management authority office. that is a government agency. the ministers were speaking with residents, with care management, with a team of german metix providing care for people in that particular camp. but that was just a snapshot of the much bigger reality here on the ground, which is
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a very bitter one. tens of thousands of people are still believe to have no or hardly any access to shelter, to seating electricity, toilets to medical care. this is a massive humanitarian crisis. one of the largest turkey has ever seen. and actually, while the ministers were talking to camp residence and to us journalists, we fell the earth shaking again. there have been more than 6200 after shocks since the 1st quakes hit about 2 weeks ago. so this situation is an ongoing nightmare for people here on the ground. and that was a reminder for the ministers as well. of the situation. people are dealing with here right now. and you are experiencing that new earthquake after all you've seen in your reporting on the disasters and the communitarian crisis must have been terrifying. can you tell us about what kind of damage it has caused
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will you know, it is hard to get an overview of the kind of new damage that has been closed because the devastation before the latest quake was already massive. entire cities have been flattened and high and neighborhoods. many cities are hardly recognizable any more and we hear that the latest trauma has caused massive a panic. but of course, the humanitarian need here on the ground continues of the german ministers to day pledged another of $50000000.00 euros in aid, bringing the total amount up to more than a $100000000.00 euros. a pot of that is intended for syria. 70000000 and getting 8 into syria has been, as we, as we know, one of the major, a challenges we're talking about. emergency assistance like tents, generators, camping bads, leaping bags. this kind of aid is being brought into the areas being flown in by the german armed forces. so the focus is on emergency humanitarian assistance. but
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there is also a long term focus. of course it needs to be on, on reconstruction. thank you so much for that update. that's our correspondent, johan reporting. reminder of our top story before we go. russian president vladimir putin has suspended russia's participation in the last leader nuclear disarmament. treated with the last button announced the move in a state of the nation address of the blame to the west. before starting before in quite a state office. our stay tuned for kick off coming up next ah ah, with
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