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ah ah ah ah, this is dw news, live it from berlin tonight, a rallying call from vladimir putin to russians to back the war in ukraine almost one year into his invasion of ukraine. foods is praising frontline russian troops, calling them defenders of the fatherland. while you, as president biden, is wrapping up a diplomatic mission to ukraine in poland, with a promise of solidarity and security with nato's eastern plank and nearly 8000000
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ukrainians have fled their homeland since the russian invasion began. tonight we look at where they are now, and we ask, what are the chances that they will ever be able to go home again? ah, i'm break off is good to have you. with this on this wednesday to night, a leader rallied his people on the eve of the 1st anniversary of a war, which is not going his way at all. russian president vladimir putin to day urged russians to get behind the war in ukraine. of course, he's not calling it. we're who to address crowns at a sports stadium in central moscow in the run up anniversary of the invasion, which is this coming friday. hooton's said that russia is proud of its forces fighting in ukraine, and he claimed that the whole country supports them. he called russian troops,
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defenders of the fatherland. what did you say saying moscow is fighting for whites which he calls it's historical lance. what he's gay in ukraine, la, you say it or i want to go now to our mosque, albert, or achieve your rash? shudder. he is knelt based in the laughing and capital riga. you may recall, russian authorities shut down the w's moscow office. last year. yury prudent addressing crowds at moscow's stadium. again. what did he say this time? while brand put his spoke for 3 and a half minutes only he emphasized in his short, pathetic speech of the importance of the russian army that is, in his opinion. defending you mentioned that defending russia and is supported by the whole country. so each of the russians is in some way, the defender of the fatherland, his aunt and many of those waving russia flags during this opulent propaganda van
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to was the so called to pigeon. nikki: so teachers, officials, employees of state companies who wore bro bye buses from moscow suburbs and inch instructed to join his concert among them where there was supposedly some paid spectators on social media as well as information circulating about the money people will paid for the participation and am mobile anti craft defense system was reported? the protecting, the crowds installed close to the stadium. that was a sign of a new reality mask. in perhaps the biggest story is what happened before this rally today. and that is when vladimir putin met at china's top diplomat, wong ye, at the kremlin. do we know what these 2 gentlemen are? what they talked about, and what are the objectives of these 2 powers? well, put in is a keen to a show that he isn't isolated brands, so i think for him, the importance of this meeting was much greater than for a, he's a chinese gast,
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china's importance to russia has been constantly growing since the 2014 annexation of crimea. by russia and the introduction of western sanctions against russia, the russian government has been turning or shifting the whole russian economy from west to east to china. and as were china's interests in moscow, we see that as senior chinese diplomat has been traveling to russia to talk we let me putin about the arguably most important political issue, the war in ukraine that china caused by the way ukraine crisis, though. however, china wants to mediate and show, especially to the united states, to president biden, that it remains a reliable international partner and to reject the accusations back. beijing would support russia with weapons. and i want to ask you to another major story happening today in moscow with that, it's the suspension of the new start nuclear treaty between russia in the united
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states that suspension today approved by both chambers of parliament in russia. what happens next? well, what is clear, brent is that the russians and the americans have lost one of the last opportunities for dialogue. as for the anticipated arms race, experts believe that after the suspension suspending over the treaty, the policies will no longer control each other. but these won't immediately start and nuclear arms race. they say, what is likely to happen is that over time, the threat will become increasingly elusive. and the idea of how many own nuclear weapons will be needed to more exaggerate at the same time. and other experts assure that there will definitely not be a situation where one of the party suddenly decides that it needs twice as many be south. both conscious already has so many nuclear warheads that they're further built up, has only symbolic meaning. they say, however,
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the threat of an atomic war would is supposedly increase. d. w wants go bureau chief, you should are joining us tonight from reagan. that's always your thank you as president joe biden to de, wrapped up a diplomatic mission to ukraine and poland, by meeting with leaders from the so called bucharest 9. now, those are the countries which include nations from nato's eastern flank. they came together in response to russia's invasion of ukraine, one year ago. the country's worry that moscow could threaten their sovereignty if it's war in ukraine succeeds. biden reaffirmed washington's commitment to defend every inch of native territory. artless bringing our brussels bureau chief alexander phenomena. she is in warsaw. she has been travelling with the u. s. president this week. alexandra, what is the feeling in warsaw now that biden has come?
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he spent some time there as he delivered sufficient guarantees for nato's eastern most members. well brand, i think that the feeling here is that he has to deliver to what they wanted him to deliver. the polish president duda described to biden's visits to war so and to keep as a very powerful signal as a powerful message. i also had a chance to speak with the estonian president, and he told me that he was happy to hear biden reaffirm america's ironclad commitment to nato's mutual defense tact. because of course, we have to understand why it is so important for the leaders of central and eastern european countries that are met a here with biden, all offered their country were dominated by moscow during the cold war. some of
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them, sure, a border with russia. they fear that the conflict could spill over, so they were very happy to hear what biden had to say. however, you also have to say that they would have liked to see more concrete commitments, concrete announcements, they want to, you asked to strengthen their position to beef up their numbers of their troops in the region. and they probably talked about that behind closed doors. but there were no public announcements on that. yeah, eligible. let me ask you a little bit more about the book arrest 9 countries. these, these members of nato that are on nato's eastern flank. me. they are on the front line, if you will, against possible russian aggression. how has their role the nato changed since the invasion of ukraine begin? i think that they role has become more relevant and the fact that bite and visited
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poland for the 2nd time within one year and effect that he met with those leaders a demonstrate that fact. and of course, we also have to say that there is a discussion under way that that could be therefore a shift and a center of gravity. however, when it comes to shaping decisions within nato, some, a western european countries still have a big se. and we also have to had to add to that. those are bucharest, 9 states. they are not always on the same page. let's take hungry fines. since hunger has not delivered any weapons to ukraine, they are at times trying to block sanctions against russia. so at the booker as to 9, they are not always on the same page. and we know the country where you are right now . poland. poland has been very, very clear, and it's positioned,
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it's defiance against russian aggression. and has there been any reaction there in warsaw to this nuclear saber rattling that we've been seeing this week from one of your boot? well, know cecil reactions here from the polish government. however, joe biden was asked about putting decision to says pans. then you start treaty and he described his decision as a bit big mistake. and of course and leaders are concerned what that could mean for the future. because of course, this was the last a very important nuclear arms control treaty. and however many experts he also say that, you know, saber rattling is, was as putting das and they think that say he would not go so far as using an nuclear weapons. alexander phenomena the last night for morsel, holden, a vendor. thank you all. as we've heard
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a number of eastern european nations previously part of the communist east block, they now fear that their sovereignty is once again threatened by russian power. nato has ramped up security on its eastern flank to help reassure those countries. the alliance has deployed extra troops to the baltic states of estonia, lafayette and lithuania, as well as poland, slovakia, romania and non nato member. moldova are also nervous about moscow's intentions. increasing defense spending ramping up ammunition production, putting hundreds of thousands of troops on high hello nato is not the warring party in ukraine, but the company has led to a dramatic change in its strategy. the alliance is going back to its roots assess defense expert e in lesser. it's reinforced
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a shift in the nato strategy away from thinking about expeditionary warfare, which has been in crisis management, which has been dominating for the last decades prior to thinking again about territorial defense in a very serious way. nuclear strategy is discussed in a very serious way again. so all of these things that we hadn't really focused on for decades are now at the core of debates inside native since the start of russia's invasion, need to allies have continuously increased our support for ukraine, starting with simple anti tank weapons and missiles. and then gradually deploying more advanced weapons, but with ukraine burning through artillery shells and other ammunition much faster than the west can produce them. it is becoming difficult for nato countries to match the war time demand. these problems are not surprising, says richard sheriff, a retired british army general and natal for my deputy supreme allied commander,
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you rob choices in the end of the day. if you want to fight, protect yourself, protect your country, protect ground and sees ground back. you need the heavy metal of alma forces including time, solid infantry on out after it on the light. and there's been lack of investment in that, as there has been a complete and frankly scandalous, lack of investment in the sinews of war. the ammunition logistic sustainability require nato has already doubled its forces on the eastern flank. in addition to 4 already existing battle groups in the baltic states and in poland, the alliance has established for more in south eastern europe. the plan is to strengthen air and missile defense systems and to feather of beef up the number of troops there. i think we should be talking about divisions not brigade. insignificant rail is significant numbers. a band of steel along nato's eastern flank to demonstrate on the equivalent to russia nature is ready and prepared to
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defend itself. so far, allies have reminded united in their commitment to support ukraine and with the former neutral countries of sweden and finland now poised to join the alliance. nato has become even more relevant, says unders folk rasmussen, former nato secretary general and now adviser to the government in keith. it's very clear that pu chin has achieved the opposite of what he wanted. he wanted less nato. he has got more ne show, but the longer the war drinks on the gray to the risk of an uncontrollable escalation for all its new found strength and purpose. the conflict in ukraine remains a balancing act for nato. of the united nation says that since the invasion last february, more than 8000000 ukrainians have left their homeland. so where are they now?
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let's take a look at the map. it may surprise you top of the list, believe it or not, russia, it has taken in 2850000 ukrainians. beth the number that across the border since last february, after russia, poland. it's a very supportive neighbor of ukraine, which we've reported on numerous times. it has seen an influx of more than one and a half 1000000 ukrainians in the past year. and then right here in germany, more than 1000000 ukrainians have arrived here since the war began. the capital berlin, where we are, has registered more than a 100000 ukrainians. and then there is the check republic which has taken n as you see right there, 500000 ukrainians. they've sought refuge there. that is the equivalent of about 5 percent of that country's population. these are big numbers. big movements of people to talk about that i'm joined now by mister gerald. now he is
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a migration analyst and director of the european stability initiative. think tank. mr. klaus. it's good to see you again, you're one of the go to men, if you will, here in germany, in berlin for the government when it comes to migration. so let me ask you put this into a historical context for us. have we seen a migration of this magnitude in europe before? well, good evening. the historical context is very clear. there has not been such a movement of for refugees in europe since the late 19 forties. germany has never given protection to as many people as it did last year. and the numbers that you have quoted for the tech republic, poland, but also the baltic states, slovakia, bulgaria, and others are historic. these are extraordinary numbers, and this is the biggest refugee movement in just the year. since the late fourties
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and out would you say that this forced ukrainian diaspora, if you will. how has it changed the both political landscape of europe? well, i think there are many ways in which this has brought the war, the reality of this war home to millions of households and millions of people who become neighbors. and in many cases, friends of these ukrainian refugees. as you know, most of them are women and children. men of military age are not normally allowed to leave. many of them have gone to countries where slavic languages are spoken. and so what has traveled with these ukrainians have been deaf stories, and i think a lot. busy of the broad support in many countries in europe for the ukrainian cause has been reinforced by this very large movement. the ukrainian
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refugees, they've been taken in. they've been welcomed by many countries. the focus has really been on poland though and thus because before the invasion, poland had seemed reluctant to take in refugees. this, this change of heart, if you will. how do you explain? i don't think it's very hard to explain was we what we have seen with the ukrainians festival is that they all arrived regularly. none of them require dangerous crossings of borders with smugglers, for one very simple and very important reason they ukrainians had visa, free travel to the european union to almost all countries of europe except the united kingdom already before the war. so they could just the rife. secondly pulls checks, slovaks, germans are aware of why they are fleeing, so there is no alternative place to which they can turn people have gone to moldova,
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but otherwise, it's just the european union. and of course, a lot of countries in eastern europe or central europe in particular, identify with this because they see this russian aggression in light of their all history. and they remember that they were one this place. let me ask you to about the a more than 2000000 ukrainians who have fled into russia. i'm wondering, do we know how they are coping with being inside russia? we assume that most of them can speak russian does. does that maybe make things easier for them? and what does it do to their ukrainian identity, fleeing brush and aggression by going into russia? that is a very complicated picture. and while we know and can of cause research a lot about the ukrainians who've gone west. ah, we actually don't know nearly enough about those who have arrived in russia. i don't even know if the number is is right. um we don't know how many have been
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forced. we know they have been many cases of people being told, for example, in matthew part late last year, when maria pull fell, that they can be taking abbas to ukraine, the territory controlled by ukrainian government. but in fact, they were brought to russia. we know about the children again, different numbers have been given about children being forced and, and basically kidnapped, which will be a war crime to russia. so i cannot tell you, and i don't, i don't, i have not seen i've looked, but i have not seen any really reliable research on how many of them have been glad to flee to russia, forced to flee to russia, have been seen that documents taken away and, and, and what their, what their faith is, i don't even know if the number is, is to be believed. i went to ask if you could, maybe to look into your christabel based on what you have seen in other migration movements when this war is over and when ukrainians decide to go home,
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what kind of country will they be returning to? can we already maybe give them an inkling of what home will be like? well, i mean, 2 things are important. first, there are millions of ukrainians who have also looked, been expelled from their homes, have also been displaced, who stay inside ukraine. so we see a very strong will of, of millions of displaced ukrainians not to leave their country. we've also seen millions of ukrainians have gone to the european union and have gone back between may last year and september 300000 more ukrainians went back to ukraine. then came to the european union, the all of this shows us a very strong will of people to return, but of course they must have a country that is safe to return to. so it will very much depend on the outcome of the war. and the last thing one should say is that depending on how the war continues, we could also see many more millions forced to flee. so if we want to address the
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causes of this mass flight, supporting ukraine militarily, financially and politically is actually the best way to ensure that people do not have to flee and can return to their homes. as soon as possible. migration expert gerad canals. mr. canals as always, we appreciate your time and your valuable insights to night. thank you. i thank you . good night. let's take a look now some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. the finished president, ali iniesta says that finland would still join nato if sweden's bid is delayed. he said the 2 countries will proceed quote, hand in hand through the process, but that the final decision was not up to them. turkey has held up sweden's membership due to a diplomatic dispute. the you entire court has ordered either by john to remove a blockade from the only road between armenia and the disputed nagondo caraballo
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region. the international court of justice in the hates as the roadblock has caused shortages of food medicine and other medical supplies. palestinian officials say the israeli military has killed at least 10 people and wounded more than a 100. in a raid in the occupied westbank city of knob loose, israel says its soldiers were fired on while attempting to arrest, allege helen's tinian militants. it says the suspect militants are now dead. germany is expelling to iranian diplomats after t. ron sentenced and iranian german national to death. yas, he'd chmod, was convicted over the bombing of a mosque back in 2008 supporters alleged that he was abducted while abroad and forcibly taken to iran. this is jumps sheet shar mod, during his 1st court hearing at the terran revolutionary court,
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which on tuesday sentenced him to death. iran claims the dual iranian german citizen is the leader of an outlawed pro monarchist group, accused of carrying out the deadly bombing of a mosque in 2008. his family and human rights groups reject the accusations. germany, as government has strongly criticized the verdict in a tweet, chancellor, olive shalt said the iran regime is battling its own people in every imaginable way . and is this regarding human rights, the death sentence against jam sheet? sharman is unacceptable. we condemn it in the strongest terms and call on the wrong regime to overturn the ruling. foreign minister anna lena bear book also expressed her dismay. nakeesha also the news from iran is shocking to sentence somebody to death in a trial that doesn't comply with the rule of law goes against international law. it
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violates human rights dimensionally the german foreign ministry says it's working to provide consular supports to shar mod. iran has so far denied access to him as it doesn't recognize dual nationality for iranians. german opposition leader from lake meds who is sponsoring him as part of a german parliament program called 1st stronger measures. before the bonus we give a call on the german government to tele ron clearly and unambiguously that this ruling must have consequences or consequence. and if it's carried out diplomatic relations with iran must be broken off on, downgraded to a mission with a charge affair. and the iranian ambassador must be expelled from germany. astonishment excavation did most. the verdict can be appealed. shy, much family and the german government still hope that his death sentence can be overturned by the berlin film festival. to day the word premier of 20000
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species of bees, it tells the transgender story of an 8 year old child who explores her identity during a summer vacation in her mother's home town in the basque country. the girl does not like it when people address her by her birth name and so she goes in search of the right one. and a new identity carnival season is drawing to a close in venice and the city is celebrating its oldest tradition. the feast of marys then back to the 10th century, it celebrates the venetian victory over pirates who plan to kidnap 12 young girls. around $3000000.00 visitors come to venice every year for the carnival. one of the most important events is the contest for the most beautiful mask, which is judged by a panel of international costume. and fashion designers you see the right there. this is dw news from berlin. he's a reminder of that top story we're following for you. this,
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our president vladimir putin, of russia, has issued a rallying call to russians to get behind the war in you. great, who did addressed crowds at a sports stadium in central moscow. he said that russia is proud of its forces and he claimed that the whole country supports conflict zone with him, sebastian is up next. i'll be back at the top of the hour with more world news followed by the day i hope to see you then with with
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to conflict. the war in ukraine got a profit international squat life this past week. i level politician message the munich jersey frances to discuss more and foster ac brain. my guest this week is
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a ukrainian empty electric on to ranko who's for that tirelessly to secure promise info, international support. country and more powerful weapons on the line about blue with should we eat oh, do we treat animals and why hasn't anything changed? does this is actually a clear violation of animal protection? why do we love so mass companions while living others? yeah, i never thought about how strange it was that i could pat my dog with one hand while i ate
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a pork chop with the other. what is the alternative and how does it taste? it's like the real thing. yeah. will we all be vegan? in 50 years? i senior very she was strong arguments to keep eating animals. a documentary series about the future of food. with the great debate this week on t w. the war in ukraine got a powerful international spotlight this past week. almost exactly year after it began, i level politicians math at the munich security conference to discuss more and foster aid to ukraine and to try to cement their unity and commitment to the countries victory. my guest this week is a ukrainian mt. alexei gone to ranko whose fort tirelessly to secure promises.

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