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tv   The Day  Deutsche Welle  February 23, 2023 9:30pm-9:46pm CET

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innovation, oh, transform work, and health and living conditions in their country and inspiring the world with their ideas. kind of valley africa watch. now on the w documentary, we do know that he is putting in place that we do know that he is putting in place the capacity to do so. on short order, should he so decide i'm to conflict and bloodshed to absolutely not what we would choose. we do not want such a scenario. the risk is real, the risk is high. russia has mast considerable forces on your friends border when, when is your we are not threatening anyone that we hear threats directed out. we have reasonably, the russian forces are planning to attend to attack ukraine. in the coming week.
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the coming days, we believe that there will target ukraine's capital key. a city of 2800000 innocent people also coming up, the name is butcher, a suburb of the ukrainian capital. keep in the past year it became the scene and synonym for alleged russian war crops. bed of the rita, my wife, shout me let's terry around. we didn't have managed to get away you sim, that other parts of their shooting begun and my car caught fire with lisa. like inches stood emily. this is the end of history. the story of my life and my children, ah, are to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the days on the eve of the one year mark, one year of the russian invasion of ukraine. for the past 12 months,
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russian forces have waged a brutal campaign to take territory in eastern ukraine and it has not gone. will ukrainian troops have reclaimed key areas only to sometimes discover the horror left behind. consider the key suburb of boucher where the occupying russian troops allegedly committed war crimes, human rights lawyers point to evidence of summary executions, torture and it enforced disappearances. he w. special correspondent, i an uber, he met one butcher resident on a quest to find justice for his family. all that alexander cheque mary of ever wanted was to keep his family safe. he brought them to boucher after russian backed forces attacked their hometown in eastern ukraine in 2014 the check mary of spot a house and made it how much than we lydia. so it was said that we could
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escape that war ahead of me, but we did not put in found us even in butcher was telling us, see, you couldn't full scale war and ukraine. february 2022 brought russian troops. they cigna that other parts of their shooting, begun at my car, caught fire with the audience. so alexander was wounded, but when he looked back, his wife and children were dead. the queen so stood emily. this is the end of history, the story of my life and my children. the sidewalk is still charged from when alexander's car caught fire, marking the exact spot where he last saw his family alive. alexander story, sadly that of so many here in boucher, their reports of torture, rape and extra judicial killings were i'm standing right now. this actually used to be the sight of a mass grave of civilians. they all had to be exempt,
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identified and re buried when ukrainian forces retook the town. almost a year on. the question on everyone's mind is, where is justice and can it ever be delivered? ukraine's prosecutor general has set up a web page where anyone can report a legit war crimes committed by russian forces. authorities have received almost 70000 cases. a number that goes up every day in the key of region alone, which includes boucher, that number is $10000.00. a prosecutor for the jurisdiction tells me really low liquid with the we are identifying the names of persons soldiers investigating preparing charges and bring them to coach was upon approaching a oh no one hug through the foot of william's statute. limitations does not apply to will. crumbs or working non stop principle. so far, nationwide,
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25 russian troops have been convicted for war crimes. the international criminal court and the un have also opened up their own investigations. but justice can be slow, often taking years to examine crimes committed in minutes, minutes. that will stay with alexander forever. he spoken to both ukrainian and international investigators, hoping it might help with the pain i'm sure on. i will feel much better law when there are results and not just legal procedures for the floods. people who have been given a shock. he to knew the booklet i. for now, he kept his family home exactly as it was. the children's toys are still in their drawers. the bet sheets are fresh and their pictures are everywhere. it's not always easy being surrounded by reminders of the life he's lost. but until alexandre finds justice for his family,
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that is all he's got. their report by our corresponded i an uber him earlier we asked her about alexander and whether he will ever find justice for his family. well, we did try to speak to the keith prosecutor to get some details about alexander's case. he could really give us any details, but we know i know by speaking to him that he has quite a bit of evidence. there are the images that we showed in the report, their eye witness accounts because he was joined by his neighbor holly, who was in the car right behind them. and his children, their initial resting place was actually that mass grave site where i was and their bodies have been examined. and so there is the potential for forensic evidence to be collected there as well. with that being said, we are talking about just such a massive volume of cases that it's unclear what the timeline for his particular case is. but the general prosecutor of ukraine has vowed that every single case will be prosecuted no matter how long it takes. there are no statute of limitations
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on war crimes and that's why public, for example, there are still nazis being prosecuted for war crimes that be committed during the 3rd right till this day. but then of course, there is that question of what about the leaders? russian leaders, laker vladimir putin in, for example, that is a little bit more complicated. the international criminal court has opened a case. russia does not recognize the i c c. so that might be challenged to ever bring him to justice there. there's also a suggestion, for example, by the european permit for an international war tribunal were russian war leaders could eventually a, you know, faced justice, but that the timelines on that are very, very long. and i'm something that people here in boucher know, well they can't wait for justice, but they're aware of the situation. my impression here walking around the town is that it's a town on the men. there's a lot of reconstruction. people are picking up their lives again, and i'm joined here by the deputy mayor of butcher someone who knows a lot about this miss. melina scorecard. and i just want to ask you in this you
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know, almost one year mark of the strategy here in boucher of russian troops walking the streets. how are you feeling today? how are you in all that 2 days ago, a general prosecutor some prosecute of your friend who was inside the church, together with the families who offense for last. now we can an che, go and are the chiefs in kremlin? and that's um, that's why we are new helping families and the investigators teams here as of which acetic on so and also i'm happy to day because we have sunny day we have which is of the conflict the which is of the conflict. they've provided a constant reminder of the human cost of this war on and off the battlefield.
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russia invade crane attacking from air, land and sea. within days, millions of people fled the fighting, leaving everything a maternity hospital hit by a missile. for those who stayed behind towns led to waste people brutalized and killed. a steel plant becomes a symbol of resistance, but falls to an overwhelming russian onslaught. moments of pride as ukraine struck back as winter came, a deadly war of attrition set in a year on nowhere in ukraine is truly safe in
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a war that still has no end in sight. ever more nell, i wanna bring in the mathias sacramento, a senior lecturer, insecurity and development at kings college in london. it's good to have you with us one year into this war. think it's safe to say that on you're not truly safe anywhere at the moment in ukraine. but is it true to say that most ukrainians are lot safer than they perhaps expected to be be what have the ukrainians done right in their fight against russian aggression thank you for having so ukrainians have been quite as successful as the north liberating territory, which was occupied by russia, the notes on the north west, on these has been possible also because they have, you know, be very effective out sort of attacking on disrupting, you know,
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russian supply lines on making it very hard sometimes for russians. strickland junior vomiting until we supply their own forces on this is particularly the case, for example, around attempts to keep my chief in particular i think also been very good at exploring weaknesses by russia for example. and there were very thin defense lines around concave on this allowed ukraine and forces to advance in the autumn or so, you know, ukraine is of what quite successful in sort of, in a way sort of trapping russian forces are included, saw in the city of her son by bombing, you know, the, the bridge is that we're making the safety to the russian occupied areas of his son . and then you sort of forcing russians to withdraw because their lines where to extend it. so they've been really good at also adapting sort of new technologies and, you know, developing drugs, for example,
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to hit behind russian and ending the lines. but also in, in, in introducing, you know, utilizing western more advanced technology. this is something that has been constantly highlighted that you know, there's a lot of sort of positive our prize and of how ukrainians were able to manage on learn an you denies more sophisticated, you know, weston technological equipment, which if they hadn't been using pre, if, when if we look back to it at the start of this invasion, a year ago, russia attacked on multiple fronts. and that, of course, initially that push to stall, it ended in embarrassment for vladimir putin or we cleared to day on why and how this happened to me. why the, what, why this disaster occurred in the 1st place. i think that the 1st big problem in the russian space was they had very poor intelligence, very,
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very sort of misinformed. you know, knowledge, army intelligence about how ukrainians would operate if, if they were invaded on, you know, this hope that you know, that ukraine us would receive them in the east and not without an arm some that they were sort of not fight their advances. and i think was a massive miscalculation. so was a serious problem with intelligence which is stupid, so of very strong sort of also retaining regimes where the flow of information from below to the top is also problematic. that was, oh, sorry, i don't have problems around around the way downstairs is were open eyes, how you centralize not have corruption, you know, for training, for improper use of equipment. and also the lack of one thing that sort of a person in command. there was no over on monitor to thinking it was sort of separate and i long says, which are not effectively coordinated. i think,
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as i said, i think i don't have to do with the fact that their lines have been so exchange. and so then you stick support and the supply lines became very horrible. i think overall that the attend to, you know, to occupy kids by traverse in, you know, to rain, which was not easy for them on over of times because it was a forest. i did a forest around here, so the, you know, didn't, it didn't have the russian on hans, you know, we've, we've heard many predictions of when this war could possibly end. we said u. s. military analyst on the program. who said, if given the weapons that they need quickly enough, the ukrainian military could end the conflict of this year? is that the best case scenario in your opinion? well, i think one more point that the russians in this country, it was sort of the western cortetia on supporting ukraine. and i think us, as we mentioned, because one of the key factors which court, hey,
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i think gradients too, you know, to our bonds, to break through russian lines. i think it is a possibility, but i'm not 100 percent. sure. because i think that it would require, you know, very effective training and that takes time for example, to train air force and pilots in more sophisticated aircraft. so ukrainians are getting the support. but i think they also, we need the time to prepare effectively, a force that can really make a big difference on the ground. i think that it would be more important for us to be a cautious and to think that this would not be resolved in the coming months. maybe this year. it might, might take a couple of years, at least. i mean, we extend our way to our line of sort of expectations of when you know your, your play and victory is kind of car. you know, we leave it necessary space sometime from the ukrainians on the ways to train properly to receive the id card equipment. so that, that you know,
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that the waste provides the necessary support for this to happen more security experts. the mathias are from also from king's college london. we appreciate your time and valuable insights tonight. thank you. and the un general assembly has approved a motion calling for a just and lasting peace and ukraine that overwhelmingly back the resolution during an emergency session ahead of the 1st anniversary of russia's invasion, no germany.

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