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you think that the world will get tired of supporting ukraine? the support will only get stronger. you think that ukraine will eventually tire of defending itself more the more and the longer you will keep attacking ukraine. the more resolve is weapons. just as a fire fighter needs water to extinguish a fire, the fire that is destroying your home and killing innocent people the sooner and the more they get, the sooner the fire will be extinguished. army good country defends itself from the aggression is absolutely legitimate and is an act of defending the un charter. on the contrary, helping an aggressor is it a crime? in the short term ukraine needs to restore its sovereignty into the auto integrity within its internationally recognized borders. and in the long run, justice must be served. the nuremberg international military tribunals verdict was
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crystal clear. war of aggression is not only a war crime. it is the supreme international crime, distinguishing itself from other war crimes only in that it contains the accumulated eval, either of the whole. this is why we call for the establishment of the special tribunal with specific jurisdiction over the crime of aggression against ukraine. and the ability to deal with personal immunities of principal perpetrators of this crime. the yoga feel fresh and crimes against international peace and security goes far beyond the borders of ukraine and reaches africa, asia, and the middle east. russian not only insides conflicts, but also systemically obstructs un security council decisions needed to resolve them. today, russia argued to the discount,
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so is overly focused on the ukraine and ignore the problems of the rest of the world. let us see the wards member states can attack or the member states and their will and of quote, i don't see the words violating borders is allowed. and furthermore, and most importantly, i did not see the words the russian federation in the un charter on the list of permanent security council members. in 1991, russia reserved the us ceasar seat of the permanent security council member and turned it into the throne of impunity. the future of russia in the united nations should be determined in the context of the illegitimate change of plates from usaa sorry to russia in 1991 and responsibility for crimes committed on the territory of ukraine built and at the diplomatic tables. finally,
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on this tragic day, when we mourn life and destiny is broken by russia, i kindly ask everyone to observe a minutes of silence in memory of the victims of the aggression. i think. all right, so let's talk about what we've just had this asked from the un secretary general, who said very clearly pieces had no chance. war has ruled the day. and then we heard from the ukrainian foreign minister, de maitre could labour, who was also very clear. and what he said about russia's invasion of ukraine. joining me in the studio as d, w senior political analyst melinda crane. and we're drilling from during those 1st statements that we just had there. yeah, i mean,
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both are speakers. explain why russia is not only a problem for ukraine. why the war in ukraine is not only horrible and terrible of for the ukrainian people by. but why this war matters to the whole world to we heard a both of them speaking about the situation on the ground for the ukrainian people . how many people are a heavy i are having fled to left to the city of the country. sorry m. we heard about children who are over and over again that russia has to be hold accountable. and that's kind of what we also talked about earlier, that the ukrainian position here is clear. they want a 14, and i'm so sorry i'm gonna have to, i'm gonna have to interrupt you again because i believe that the ukranian of
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president, the lord amir zelinski, has just started speaking. he's giving a series of addresses throughout the day in teeth and will be crossing to him now. natalie, no longer with us. with him on his head, you know them because they died in ukraine. we have yet to buy me a minute of silence. image of silence to those that we'll remember some so as little emotional, some quarter to us, i think it's important to everyone is that with now i think with though order to still got it, we can, we can start with what we can start talking with. yes. this week,
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don't forget to raise your tablets loud and introduce yourselves when the most. so kristen pleased cnn. okay, mr. president, thank you for taking this question. can we get him to miss brazil? i'm interested in the timeline today on the anniversary you spoke to your own forces and you called for victory. within this year. you have heard the western friends, your partners talk about as long as it takes. you know that the russian leader believes that time is on his side. why do you think that is possible by the end of the year and how do you assess the meaning of as long as it takes from your every single partner? everyone then will remains trauma. global will remain just a 2nd, me as a fish. if all of our partners are united for the sake of our victory, because that's a victory of value,
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whose if all of them will remain committed to the words, to the time frames yelling. and that's not, that's not going to be just talking to children. we've already on the border guard, has done nothing so as if we'll fulfill our tusks than will definitely have this victory. i'm confident that we'll have this victory. ok, so when i submit it, and what did i hope this will happen? this? here we have everything to have it this. here we have france, we have to take long diplomacy. we have you, we have to combine everything against this way. even over vague does i think not a single country in the world can stand alone it so something gains this we're of the for i think we'll need like a states would be capable to do that. but fortunately that don't have labels like that. there's just a couple of countries i like that in the world and ukraine is facing this war and
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not alone. we have friends that we make sure this aggression this war would not continue any anywhere else. so we clearly understand what the putting once, what crumbling once we understand what they are military political leadership born to us. so it's, it's important for everyone to focus, but to stay working at them and the battlefield around the battlefield 1000000000, dan, but they russians, they, they have countless of victims and casualties. that's their choice. now i ctv oksana. nobody ever showed up on the president that afternoon. mister president, 1st thank you for your example of resilience invincibility and i have to believe we all believe in the victory. but now a lot of international experts are, are you telling me that we have a war of exhaustion and not
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a single party would have a resources to have an emergency, but a more than a victory. clear victory. and then that will be a negotiation. so how did this negotiations look like? what's the ultimate victory for ukraine? looks like i'm not thinking theoretically bad how those negotiations could take legs. we make very specific stops ukraine. how does not do 20 pros? okay, so we've breathed to everyone on the piece for the long how we see that. yeah, and then there's the outcome of what washer has done here. and how it has an impact, not only on our security, because there are different crisis is caused by rushes aggressive stab. as you know, the occupation of the nuclear power plant in the south put asia. and then the blocking of the sea and all the chains of supply, that last part of the full security, you know, all of those aspects so much along gonna. so what else can i tell you?
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we've also de stamps this ago, and it has supported our piece initiative at the general assembly. so the next step would be to engage as much as possible states for the 1st of in the summit. and i want really this summit to be as much fruitful as possible so that we would have this summit conducted it in place in a country that would be able to host as much countries of the world as possible. i'm working with our partners with the team in order to make sure that you know, not only of the strategic partners that are supporting us from the for 1st day to be there at the peace formula summit when that's in. and we're working hard to have representatives from different continents. we're working hard to have letting america represented at this level piece from the formula summit. and so that,
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that would be representative of the african continent. so they would be engaged in the summit as well. were also like, frankly speaking, i would like to have india. i would like to have china participating done that's, that's truth. our task is to his guy engage as much as possible to show the whole world that here is the respect to the territorial integrity. do you and chance at 2 of the i just maybe one's right to leave and did more countries will engage the more support will will have and we'll do. we have developed a piece formula in a way that they could support to a nuclear safety. the in for mental safety and you know, how many minds, how meet them with that are, are there around the territory. again, that's why there is a lot of steps that we fulford and there is also kind of a staff that means the that the bringing of beast cuz we need the security
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guarantees. but they may buy, and this is something when we looked at like a security package for ukraine for ukrainians. and already we can see that this is the war that has a very significant impact. so security guarantees pole the whole europe. so land, there is the fulfillment and that there is this respect to the international law and to the ordinary people, to the people of ukraine. so if that would be fulfilled, then we'll get to look at diplomatic stats. he could have it set up and this war, but until that moment, we need to fulfill old. i'm sorry, mister president. you were mentioning the resolution, the united nations there more than a 140 countries, the boat, it demanding that russia forces leave ukraine immediately. and without conditions, what do you say to the countries, the minority that didn't support that resolution that voted with russia against it or that i decided to ignore it.
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ah, was that enough of them show them as the you know? no, not in order to understand the ward, the consequences and the losses as the result of the work is, can we not only losing the territory, but you are losing people leaving people bad. and if you are not at war, if you haven't ever lost anyone, then it's hard for you to understand what's happening, what, what, what sort of pain is that for, for every one around you. and it's hard to have the to, to spread this information. and this is why we are working every day in order for anyone to understand the consequences of the war, not through having this war because it's painful, it's a weak position because you're somewhere there might. and you say that we're not
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sure that in this way, but in how ya, in what way to june? definitely have a war was torturing with rags. should you have it? and should you need to have it in free house of the worst so that the people would finally understand the consequences of this bloody war? and then this a big is it simply the, the way you're saying leadership a vote they so the russian federation gotten, it loses then there is this journalism to have this information been spread. and it's hard to get this information to those countries that are low to against it. but still that we, we are working there is 141 countries who voted in favor that there is this support to territorial integrity. and so for in the to so there's the nam sir how these countries are, what sort of attitude do they like towards the african countries? i think we worked with mom nodded a sufficient level. we didn't pay boil sufficient attention to the african
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countries. that is why we have a special program initiated by ukraine. we are increasing the number of embassies in the region. look at the grain from his grade initiatives and other initiatives on form. so vote security. so this is what you need to do on a daily investments in fi us. i think we winsted that time for many years. he's at the beginning of our independence, and that is why currently we are fighting for our independent school. and that means it's not a coincidence, we didn't have a strong face to force as before, the war in that's right. but now we have it. we still lacking in number info to be an individual cit, this festival of common support. so, and i'm talking about the african continent, the latin america, it's also very important and i would really like to have a conference and a meeting or are there is somebody with the letting american countries and chic
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crane. and it's very difficult for me to leave outside of ukraine, but i would go, i would go to this may take to tell their media to tell their society like i'm ready to get to stop for our diplomats are are making the stand for us. we're ready to work round the clock. if we'll get cooking more hours in the daytime, we'll, we'll do that. so this is how you would need to work 30 years. unfortunately, was the wars that made us work at the probably so effectively. but nobody him, he would v expected something like that out of neighboring country over russia, that she would have something like that from russia. this is just willingness to destroy us, completely. totally. but what's her name and a home? that's why it's not that direction of mistakes and i'd like to say that i don't have any questions to anyone. i don't want me to in
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a little deal with that part of the past when i'm looking at it and i did that in the future. we need the total support of the work of the war, and we will be even if a k can of the european countries, us and that east this the only the u member nations, but other countries to countries with different status with neutral status. and we've worked in order to change this neutrality came to the non neutral status to war. this is also very porter. we worked on bests doing this every day in a lot of but you have worked on that and the armed forces have worked on that because the victory is on the battlefield. they gave us confidence. nobody yet. law likes losers. however hard it, might you sound bad that the true everyone wants to be with torres and everyone has to work like inside the country and outside the country. that the only way, the only way to victory things a lot. they can pull it,
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has the deer colleagues say yell to european strategists? are jeffrey nice. do you have a question? maybe at 1st row, do i need a microphone? yes, yes. not just high ground from which you can make requests or demands of the western world, whose methods of accountability for war crimes are unsatisfactory, incomplete, and very, very slow. will you for yourselves. and also for us push for reform of those systems or additions to them. that will ensure that can be because this is in your cons and where moral wrong is and supplementary to that mister president, will you consider to the extent possible ensuring that
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accountability mechanisms for war crimes are dealt with by ukrainians in ukraine. and in the ukranian language, remembering that the country is supporting you, if they found themselves in your terrible and unhappy situation, would demand nothing less for themselves. thank you deborah, this is diane. thank you for your question. it's a quite complicated to one, but actually it had all the answers in it. it is very profound. and i know there are a lot of risks. but as far as the piece formula is concerned regarding the institutions 1st, like mystic about the tribunal, everything starts with the political unity,
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the united nations plaid for might not necessarily be the universal one, but there is nothing else that would have more countries that could be politically, united as of now compensate whole the damage caused by russia on the territory of our country to our country and to our people. this is a major effort. we're working on in the diplomats julio, but office of the president, mr. austin. mr. yet mike had prosecutor general, the office of the prosecutor general. everybody is working hard every day to make sure it is up and running. this is a very sophisticated mechanism. we and actually i have to say there are other countries they, history you need to political will in unit unification. and un has been very useful in that respect because the,
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any government country leader can receive support and to that process. and we're working on that as well. we are convinced that the resolutions will be supported and voted for. this is actually the netherlands. we're working with mars, i'm arguing to we're working with mr. risha, so not from the u. k, with other countries as well. we are thinking about the compensation mechanism. there has already been few steps already in our baltic, friends, ah, very helpful and bold ticker for trio and paula and they have been supportive along the way. they supported us with everything we asked for. why is it so hard? because as well to address the 1st part of your question, these institutions that you referred to, a west set up
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a long time ago. they haven't been through this type of immense aggression. and this bureaucratic system does not give a clear answer to the question of when, when the justice will be served on the fairness will happen. and for those who lost their homes are of the economy. everything they want just is now, and it makes sense that they want justice and fairness. we have specific examples. we were working on the matter of prisoners of war and the andy in particular and the other colleagues are they were take in a great their condition. ah, are they a hard work in insisting no,
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we were insistent and working hard to we were doing our best pain, immense effort to get our men and women out. but to this day, we do not have access to the prisoners of war. and this year, the year is a year of the full scale war tars that are political prisoners. what is happening to them? now if i remember early into my presidential term a, we returning people back to ukraine, some political prisoners. everybody thought they were held in moscow, but that wasn't the case. they were very, very far in the regions. um and it was only thanks to ukrainian to the ombudsman, it's cetera. and we worked way the always see way back her. when there were attempts at the norman d for image of the always see, i had to verify
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a lot of matters related to the security issues. it was very, very hard. there was a terrorist will in us, we became more proactive with tenisha came to ukraine and we held to organize the corridor to transport grain was helpful if turkey is so persistent, being persistent and being committed to change institutions is what helps actually this war help, sir. hi ally, to weaknesses, weaknesses and ukrainian institutions in the e. u. on the continent in general, and international institutions as well. and we spoke like, ah, how do we change them? a different security infrastructure will emerge after the victor in the war.
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somebody for a very pre ukrainian, china came up with it's a piece plan of this week. however, we see in some mom actions by china not very pre ukrainian. and we also heard some allegations the china might be supporting weapons to of, to work with russia. so what do you think about to china's possess.
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