i currently more people than in worldwide in such a better life. i submitted in time for dental to honey. that's the level of care battling a limited i find out that daily story in for my green, reliable news for migrant. wherever they may be. tick tock, tick, tock, time seems to be running out for video sharing, a tick tock or at least for the more than $100000000.00, tick tock us in the us. the app is owned by a chinese company and law enforcement experts say the app not only could, but it's likely to be used by beijing to spy on us citizen citizens and worse on

government officials. that is why earlier this week for us had over the band, the use of take talk on government mobile phones, canada, the european parliament. and the commission announced similar bands on their employees. i'm gab alphas in berlin, and this is the day ah, we firmly opposed the u. s. sides wrong approach of overreaching and national security, abusing national power and unreasonably suppressing the companies of other countries . this is an issue of our time that needs to be discussed, needs literally, the united states, the world's number one superpower, is so afraid of a mobile phone application that young people like so much that they completely lack

any self confidence. i think that will look back in a number of years. i don't know how many, maybe decades look back at this time and say, well that was a really naive time where people just let their data go all over the place. also on the day the battlefield back moved, enters the decisive face, ukrainian forces face relentless attacks as russian troops close in on the besieged city. i think the want to big picture some sort of victor, any victory that that, that they can get. i don't think it's a strategic victory. i think they're, they want to show something, some progress on the ground. ah, to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. now the how us house of for foreign affairs committee has voted to give president joe biden new

pass for an outright ban of tick tock and other social media apps. lawmakers vote it's $26.00 to $16.00, to approve the measure. republican committee chair michael mccaul sponsored it democrats on the committee, oppose the bill. tick tock is used by more than 100000000 americans. the measure would need to be passed by the full house and he was senate before it can go to biden. tick tock has come on to increase throat scrutiny on both sides of the atlantic. as western countries take a critical look at the chinese companies reach and the security risks, my pose candidates, electronic spy agency, for instance, is now watching for security threats from tick tock. canada has been tick tock from government phones saying the chinese app carries an unacceptable risk to privacy and security. ottawa will also buck federal employees from downloading the app in

future. we are making the decision that up for government of employees for government equipment. and it is better to not have them access kicked off because of the concerns that other people have in terms of safety. or this may be a 1st step. it may be the only step we need to take, but every step of the way we're going to be making sure we're keeping canadians safe. in the u. s. federal agencies have 30 days to remove the chinese owned video platform from all government issued devices. contractors must comply with in 90 days, the white house set on monday. the decisions further strain sino western relations which have been troubled in recent years. most recently over western accusations that china could use data to threaten cyber security. now let's alecia the united states, the world's number one, superpower, is so afraid of a mobile phone application that young people like so much that they completely lack

any self confidence. gang, we firmly oppose the u. s. sides wrong approach of overreaching in national security, abusing national power and unreasonably suppressing the companies of other countries . in 2022, tick tock generated $6000000000.00 through advertising in the u. s. alone. the company is afraid of losing the lucrative u. s. market. the same could happen in the european union. last week, the european commission told both members of parliament and employees that they must remove the app from any private devices on which apps of the commission are used. i'll take talk as issued, it's response to you as lawmakers, advancing the bill on banning the social media giant and posted a tweet say a u. s. ban on take talk is a ban on the export of american culture and values to the 1000000000 plus people who use our service worldwide. we are disappointed to see this rushed piece of

legislation move forward despite its considerable negative impact on the free speech rights of millions of americans who use and love to talk of a more am thou joined by susan arial allen. so she's a digital expert at the elliott school of international affairs and joins us from washington. d. c. susan woke up the d. w. western governments are cracking down on tick tock. now, is it really that dangerous? well, data is power and data is economic growth. and so while i think they're doing this is not surprising, right? more the, the united states has been innovative using ai and so has china. and in order to do that, these days, you need huge datasets, right? chat g p t and there are new generator models of a i will wire tons of data trolls,

much of which is personal data. and so since data is so hard to protect and so easy to steal through cyber soft, i understand you ask concerns. there's another play here too, which is chinese law require that chinese companies and by dance is an interesting company because it is globally held. but it is a subsidiary or a large chinese company which is required by law to share data with the government . when the government asked for that data, and that is the concern, will then all the state of young people in the united states in germany, in canada. will it be next to make predictions about where the united states or canada or germany might be going in the future? and that is the fair. so, united states is now being slightly critical and joining other nations that band specific apps or band specific technologies. and that is a former censorship,

inconsistent with long standing us is that the internet and associated services should be open because they will yield more democracy and more economic progress. now the privacy and data protection, one side of the coin if you will. but the republican sure of the committee of michael nicole said today that anyone using tick tock had a chinese bio balloon on the phone. is that would you? would you share that view? no, i do not share that view because i'm about 2020. i wrote a paper which exams how all this started and there's lots of other technologies. they don't, they are not chinese owned, but there's lots of other technologies where personal data could be stolen and misused by other governments. for example, you may recall when i don't know if you're familiar with the abstract,

but lots of runners and bikers use this app. and you can follow where a person is training and it revealed secret military base, afghanistan and syria. when someone took all this information from strive and made a heat map. and so this is the 1st time that data and data collection has become a national security issue. what is new here is that it is a chinese ai company that is producing a recommendation algorithm that is so great and so popular in the united states. and in other countries, it really is a fabulous app. and it shows the prowess of chinese ai. and that in itself is inherently good for the united states because we need other companies to keep us on our toes. but that said, there is a potential. so i'm not disagreeing that this is the potential don't think the

solution that has been posed is the correct solution. but what about the concerns that talk would be able through this algorithm that actually decides which videos are being shown to which user to sway public opinion on certain matters because it could, right, but the united states now has 1st of all, we had a meeting today with the you, where are the united states, the you are trying to find common ground on the governance of ai, right? and to do that through assessing risk, and the united states is likely to require companies to be transparent about how they use data. and then to prepare a risk management approach to that data. so it doesn't exist yet. but i do think we're going to come up with strategies to address the problems posed by misuse of data. whether it yields discrimination or yields dis information,

or yields propaganda, right? we, we are in the early phases of learning how to govern these things and we're, we're blaming china for our own homes in governance. and we're also blaming china for our own failure to adequately protected. and by our own, i mean the united states, i'm sorry i wasn't, we are now the how much of the concern you think about tick? tock is based on fact and all much about politics. b, recently increasing us rivalry with b j. i really don't see it that way myself, but i think that president, i'm very thoughtful man is trying very hard to find common ground with the republican party in washington. and one area of common ground is that we need a new approach to dealing with a huge authoritarian regime that doesn't play by the same roles that most

countries have accepted since the 2nd world war. and so the united states, i think, is experimenting and warming in some mistakes and we've got some good policies in place. we need to find common ground with our allies. and that has been a tortuous process, but we're working on it. so please bear with us. but do i think this is the right strategy? no, but i think it's part of a process till we evolve the right strategy of how do you deal with a country which, you know, we can't of course ourselves from this is the largest man. country in the world is the most populous country in the world. and we need, in some ways to keep innovation going in the united states. we need competition. we should have learned that with the auto sector in the 1980s. but i guess we'd, so it's good to have a country another country keep you on your toes, but the fear is that in contrast with japan, germany, you know,

china is 1200000 people. and it is increasingly authoritarian. we thought that trade would yield greater of commitment to the rule of law. and it did seem true until the past couple years when you saw the chinese government cracking down ever more on re speech rise of tech companies that threaten the communist party and political stability in china. and the us response to the site i fear has not been is created. it could be, but i also understand why it is we are hernon time of war. and countries are being force guides and china seems to be choosing the russian side. thank you very much. susan, earl aaronson, there, thank you for your expertise you ah,

the founder of russia's wagner, mercenary group, says ukrainian forces are putting up fish resistance defending backward. russian troops are attempting to encircle the strategic city unclaimed. the 1st major prize in months of fighting since august last year, russian and ukrainian forces have been embroiled in a fierce and bloody battle for battled. city has come under relentless attack as russia seeks to expand the territory controls in the east of ukraine. but the battle for bach mood has taken on in importance, far greater than the strategic and military value of the city itself. burned to ruins. that's how ukrainian president flow to me as a lensky described back loot in december for months, the small city in eastern ukraine has been the center of the most protracted battle of russia's gear long war. both sides of port troops and other resources into a savage fight. the exact number of casualties is unknown,

but western officials say hundreds of russian and ukrainian forces were killed and wounded. on the worse days. military analysts say its capture would have little strategic value. so why have russia and ukraine been so invested in winning the battle for back? moot for russia became a political imperative to show some success on the battlefield after ukraine were captured large parts of the car here, region and the port city of has san opera. we good, i think the wanton big picture some sort of victor, any victory that, that, that they can get. i don't think it's a strategic victory. i think they're, they want to show something, some progress on the ground. the capture of boss moot, would be ukraine's biggest military loss and months. it could also set up russian

forces for a sold some bigger cities that they would still have to get passed to heavily fortified ukrainian defense of line the full of back moot, would also be a success for the paramilitary russian wagner group and its leader. you have gained pre, goshen, potentially strengthening his position, compared to rivals within the russian military. in ukraine, the slogan, hold back. loot has become a national rallying cry. zalinski visited the front lines in the city just before his trip to washington in december, nevada. know that this is not just buck moot, it's a symbol, the buck, mood fortress. we do not want russian flags on the ruins of fortresses. you remember? the loss of bach moot would be a serious symbolic and psychological blow that ukraine could have made a grim calculation by forcing russia to expand enormous resources in the battle for

the city. meaning a russian victory will be hollow, considering the manpower and equipment lost. oh, from all the battlefield bought mood last spring, and john spencer, chair of urban wolfish studies at madison policy. for a john, why is bach mood so important for both sides? i mean, i think it's so important because like many urban battles of the past to include the greatest or in battle of history, the battle of stalingrad is at once fighting begin. they end up taking on a political importance. the president lensky has visited back movie. like you said, buckman hold as become a national rally. chi impudent hasn't had a win in 6 months. so like major urban battles of a past history, it's take on a political value for both sides. it has no chief value as in, it won't help the chivas cheesy goal for it is side no operational value and very

little tactical value. other than a stepping stone to like crime, a torso civilian ask, but it really has no value for either sides. but people have to remember, war is a human endeavor in war is just politics by other means. it has immense political value for both sides. now ukrainian forces are coming on the relentless attacks. how much longer can they hold old haul? how much longer are they willing to hold it? is some variables are we just don't know? we know there are, there's a great danger of the remaining defenders being encircled, but this is, this is not the battle of mary opal. they, i have not been encircled yet. although the north in the easter are under daily attacks like 80 attacks a day, but as long i, i believe the ukrainians are to assuming some risk. and as long as the russians won a thorough, just waves of untrained manpower at the defenders and they can continue to keep

a door out of back loot for those defenders. then there's a saying, don't interrupt your enemy wise, making a mistake. and if, if russian wants to commit 30000 dead, 40000 dead to take this piece of ground that doesn't have any real military value. i think that they're going to continue do that. and to the last moment. now we're talking about urban warfare. them in general, who do you think has the upper hands when it comes to urban warfare and ukrainian towns and city, the defenders, all the russian attackers? that's a hard one. again, every city is different, right? so, but usually the offender has an advantage, but there's a time component. a defender has an advantage for a certain amount of time. and in this situation, i mean, look how long ukraine has held that piece of ground that urban drowned. and using you the concrete in all the unique features of the city to hold it for so long afters, you know, against such greater numbers. so usually the defender has an advantage. now i think

in this case they do, but that's only for a certain amount of time, and that time is unfortunately running down. now what's then is, is the ultimate goal for ukraine in baltimore to hold the city actually, or did just to tie down russian forces? i think it's, it's, it's really neither. i think it's hold it in kill as many russian soldiers that once advanced across open area as possible until it's no longer feasible. me, if you could get the russian force like they did a few months ago to culminate when had initial wagner, prisoners, and rapists were sent against bach lute they culminated and couldn't advance any more. there is a slight chance ukraine could do that, but it's probably more likely they'll hold it for a certain your longer and then eventually pull back the ukranian forces to those defensive lines. really that are, that are not far from the city in russia would be near ruling the rubble as they

like to do. now, what happens if they do with their all the rubble, if russian troops sees bucking with what's next for them. and they'll have to refit and reorganize, they can't just keep on advancing that ukrainian defensive line and they have shown superior intelligence and superior planning. i'm sure there's a plan in place to pull ukrainian forces back and strengthen ukrainian lines and to stop russia where there acts in you. the only downfall is that russia will claim this your the 6 month 30000 soldier victory over at town. that doesn't mean anything to either side l as in it ukrainian land. and of course, all the land matters. a john briefly please. and lots of discussion about heavy weaponry being delivered by the west wood heavy weaponry. i liked the tanks, the main battle times the german ones. would that make a difference? that yes, yes, they would. and not necessarily the piece of equipment but

a formation armed with that equipment, cuz usually you give tanks and you form a tank brigade or a division. and now it absolutely help and re supplies. a western weapons like the rockets and everything would have an impact. so that time component is here in this battle where the sooner those western weapons can get there, the better in the russia wants to prevent that. john spencer, that at the urban warfare studies at madison policy for thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us. again, i am at home tonight at states now where findings from a poll on anti semitism by the american jewish committee. i've just been released the results indicate 40 percent of jews in the us feel less secure than a year ago. the poll also found that almost 90 percent of respondents said anti semitism is either a very serious problem or somewhat of a problem. the american jewish committee says anti semitism is on the rise in the u

. s. and the biden administration has created a new federal interagency group to develop a national strategy to combat anti semitism. did have you caught up with ted deutsch, c e o of the american jewish committee, and spoke to him about anti semitism in the us. i'm listening diets, the u. s. administration just set up a task force on anti semitism. the us in the past used to give advice to envoys from around the world. now they came to the white house to give advice to the united states. what has changed? well ajax, he just put out american jewish committee, just put out a, a survey of antisemitism. that shows that over 40 percent of jews living in the united states feel less secured now than they did even one year ago. that's a 10 percentage point, increase the number of people who have changed their behavior so as to not be identifiable jewish out of fear for what might happen to them is dramatically

higher than it's been. so there's a need for action. and the biden administration is committed to create a national action plan, and that's what brought us together today from that annual survey you conduct. it's also clear that $99.00 out of 10 americans jewish in general, americans at feel that this is an issue for society as a whole. so what do you do with that information? i well, 090 percent of the american people acknowledge that it's a problem because anti semitism never just stops with the jews. it suggests a greater problem in democracy and that it's why the administration is committed to this. that's why there is an ongoing interagency process to create a national action plan by creating a national action plan. it's not just going to address the needs of the jewish community. it's going to help set in motion the opportunity to strengthen yes. the jewish community, but democracy as a whole, something it's desperately needed right at this moment. so after the conversations

you've had after the consultations with envoys from around the world, what do you want to see in big letters when that action plan comes about here in the us? well, we have to, there are, there are a few things that were clear takeaways today, from the experiences in germany at the you and across europe, a number one, this can be a political exercise. it has to be based on what's actually happening and has to seek the input of the community impacted that is that the jewish community. and number 2, we have to acknowledge that social media companies play a role here that when something is, is posted on social media by someone with a huge following i that's world wide that, that anti semitism doesn't stop at borders. and so we've got to focus on the social media piece and number 3, it has to be a plan for. ready for, for the long haul, it's got to be a plan that includes education and security and opportunities to, to bring communities together. that's how we're going to do this in

a way that will be sustainable. ted toys, the ceo of the american jewish committee, thanks very much. thank you. and as it from me and the team that's been the day, as we saw throughout the compensation continues online, you'll find us on twitter either at dw news or you could follow me at 11, e r s. thank you very much for watching the day. mm. ah, with

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