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that bands abortions in all cases. so i feel a human rights organizations take advantage of women's lack of education and through forced propaganda and wise, they make them murderers of their unborn daughters and sons. it's a cruel act. it's a barbaric act. ah. as i said, i mean it was the 13th of july,
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2007. you hadn't yet name it. i was 9 months pregnant as that i was working in central san salvador in la and the pain was unbearable. again, my thing is when i started making calls, the me that they are on the saddle, my baby is about to be born. i said, let it be, i can stand the pain. come help me off and put a family of the police said they would come, i need. but they never did know you that needed to look at my baby was born there and then germany, i fainted for it because when i woke up and i tried to get help
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news gentlemen, why did you kill her? a man asked me to come along. i haven't killed any one. i said the applicant, you said yes, you killed your daughter. now you have to pay them and i kept passing out and got it. okay, i just remember waking up and then fainting again. i would be at my bathroom when i was almost dead it and thought i've been imprisoned of her side of the meadow they hadn't 1st, they said it was an abortion. it. what did they changed it to aggravated homicide. they sentenced me to 30 years. ah. when the summer, when the door opened,
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i didn't want to look inside to look at any event at an end. not acadia. i didn't want to talk to anyone. okay, i can, i didn't want any one talking to me. that he had an enemy with me. i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her that i was so excited. they're me sitting missy women sleep on the floor at 1st in our office and slept on the floor for 7 months. and i used to lie there crying. now i left by staring at the wall wondering would i be able to leave? quinton, when the truth would come out you're the head decker, but in again i was afraid that i would never get out again. i thought i won't survive. i'm going to die year money.
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enamel, mental, odious. yep. awfully good. at the hearing in january, 2008. i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. my parents had given a lawyer, $700.00 to take my case because nobody i me but he demanded that they give him land cadel, a house and a car my limit here or my been on that army. my parents asked me if they should give him the house, but i couldn't leave them on the street. nobody had a headline. okay, so i decided not to have a lawyer. this is yana can mother and i will that i preferred to stay in prison longer. if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, you can me by that is needed to be an adult living. i don't know how the years went by. and my son grew up without me. me were going to
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sandra, saw me by this, but my parents were always worried because they didn't have money to visit me. i was 20 when anela was born. when dad, when he was 3 years old, i got pregnant again. in may, must when i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children. and okay, my kiddo is that well, what i want most just to be with anal gabrielle element, but i missed the best of his childhood. no. am i love him more than ever makin okay . i loved him from the day he was born and will love him until the day i die. i don't get back. they miss a better having
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an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instinct against their own interests. after an abortion women suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is abhorrent. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live on. the other one might jimmy moorhead more than 3000 women live in the prison and they are gonna, they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under. and i yeah, there is no running water to the fact that the food is terrible. so i mean, there are only 6 toilets for all these women. do they
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am, would you go by? yeah, i met many other inmates and never realized they were in prison on similar charges . i thought i was alone pakistanis one. but i wasn't they don't know if you know the mom we realized there were many women accused of the same crime in 88 and we'll have we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases damage political to fasten fund them. anyhow. i think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not really not gonna buy something. i mean, i've lost everything yet, but i've been a fellow innocent. i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here. but the thing was that i, i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing doing . i was young. i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter, and i mean, she was 9 years old man and woman. i was 4 months pregnant with what they hit me and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me bleeding less than that. i just remember that i was given
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an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed that but that's all that i must. when i said that i woke up around 7 in the evening, i was handcuffed minnie and they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was. and i was alone in a room by indiana on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness and a dna test and up went out in who was the witness? my daughters father, who did you? yes it and you couldn't go no battle since the prosecutor was on their side. they didn't allow my lawyer to speak in minneapolis. i'm. they didn't allow my father to speak rather man in a i don't. he was my only witness. and i mean, it's like that on up a lot of me, but i've been here for almost 11 years and they sentenced me to 30 but what happened to you? mapquest?
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i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dying and i was at the hospital a felon. there, but i also lawyer was handcuffed tab on the deal. they said i was charged with murder telling me that i had killed my own dorsal mickey as i was shortly. no, no, no, no, you want. i fell down. it was an accident. i had been a long, long, i honest about my daughter, a living me ha, they didn't let me see her a moment at the same thing and i said on the day, maybe you don't get they all see why i did it. but anyway, i didn't understand what was happening in event because i hadn't been there instead, but i did at the doctors blame, you know, doctors called the police law the thought i but okay,
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i am not on my lap than there. i didn't understand jane. they didn't give me an explanation. they took me to the police station, and i was there for about 8 days, almost. then they brought me here. name if i had them back and then when i'm in and one of my daughters is 15 years old than the other is 12 20 am. but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men and i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me, my wife, after my mother died, i lost my baby 20 days later i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i'm in the indiana. yeah. yeah. whether one or a policeman were standing at the door of the church? i asked them, why are you looking for me? and they said my name am and i said yes, that's me. sandra, they said you're under arrest for murder. i asked why gay and i didn't kill anyone
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. they took my baby's body out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to now and i know i left my 2 daughters behind me. my. my parents were no longer there to take care of them, and i didn't want to leave them with my brother. the one who had hurt me. my brother, his friends, have their families. while my daughters are suffering from media and sam, me and they're having a hard time on their own and i'm suffering without them. he also is now life has been really hard on me in that regard. what i mean, like all in the blue. yes he has, he sort of, i thought, so if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong. drawn it. maybe they just made
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a mistake. try to thank god it was to find the again, when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry, think it would be, have wayne. and because it means that el salvador sees women as property, handled at m y 2nd. because that stand up dilemma, that is sam bed been and said it had these laws allow them to rule over us. and the last young getting on their next sunday the put out. but we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies. it helps to not do anything about this situation. we're in that i began to help with them will be, man you seem has we've heard strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves as a mentor to get better. but lawyers with the citizens group for the d criminalization of abortion came in 2012 democratic abernathy, called us like a 17 sunday family where we agreed that they would take on our cases. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means quoted, it would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside the prison, yet on
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a special family and eventually at the moment. okay. the ambassadors told us they needed a spokes person to represent us. when the girls chose me cafe william. but that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison. thought we had our spiritual freedom. see dear albert, by the end of that as he delora and she said about the order said go ahead. yes, we started with 17 women. now there are more of the since 2009. we have identified a 129 cases, gamble hand difficult the
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3rd, but then in addition to political lobbying mobilization and campaigning, know the citizens group has a legal team that follows up on cases. tamia dash is dockers cases on, not just one in the courtroom. they are one in the streets in the number again. is the ballard that the f m l and party presented a penal code reform to decriminalize abortion inevitable because to save their lives, so they don't dine these conditions on as well. i'm president of the legislative assembly lorena pena presented the bill alongside women's groups of wisdom, glenda, sal palazzo. they're one of your last you, when as a result of race, when the mother's life is at risk, when it's a result of human trafficking and when the case involves a minor candle, castle said that they may not as they are though i bring that up and all of this seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution enshrining the right to
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life of every person. you know that a jewelry, the i believe, but as young as they faced with pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion. the catholic church objected to these measures of the archbishop called on the legislature not to change the penal code while long as does while the because you in this i'll go the go with. that is, the, some of them won't get out because if we are democratic, look at the percentages for them, that quint, that the members of the legislator will see that if they vote to legalize abortion, they would be going against a vast majority of the population as young which christians also on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide alone. i'll come down what they did. he got from the changing the church as violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia. lasagna, blah harris, the glass in the middle, or upper class women who have more money. you have 2 options, and in dob, either they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion,
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or they go abroad for the procedure. what i think by isa don de larry, elise hung out of cars will begin with that. are murder is now considered a human right and it will not a mother's right. i'll allow that. this is an ideological relativism, that for me, as a politician, it is an ideological up front to the west america and its citizens. they're gone for america on darcy. this is the largest genocide in human history, much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war one back on the other. but again, if you will, cannot arizona harker states, he has not reviewed cases of miscarriages that have led to women's imprisonment by men and casala when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage older platform. daniel known woman should go to jail for having an abortion
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for contact on what i understand, unless enough res i was contacted by amnesty international about taking this case will bundle solomon and al, exclusively handle cases like this since you are left, but i believe it is essential for justice, going to sierra way on the charge against her. dora was aggravated homicide. yahoo! see major contradictions. her selected fella went off at so another thing of the killing of a new born st. the 30 to 40 weeks gestation shemelle m a n. who was born alive, but died of para natal? yes. fix you. there you go and i'll fix up late enough done. he signs of a 6 year by drowning were found. see a lot of it. you born died of parent a to las fix year. not that she could not have died by drowning matter. things are mutually exclusive. so paranoid to las, fix it as a natural cause of death, not what it cannot be one on the other at the same time goes on him with yeah, i don't think the judges even read the autopsy yet. are left. ok.
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well the lea a and that go when i read tale dora's file, which is very extensive, and then i must admit, i thought this woman is guilty to stay the file intentionally leads you to believe that she is guilty, black with the effort of one. but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help? yeah, i believe is for them in that law, he guided the medical evidence is conclusive empathy. she had a pre term bertha placental abrupt sion with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness . the system for medical history is consistent with the information she provided them. and if yes, the same, but i thought i was 9 months pregnant and i was robbed when i was on my way to san salvador. with my sick mother, anthony m we f m. i was robbed on the bus, isn't that on any of the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me,
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landing right on my belly, play enemy style elizabeth, living alone in a blow to the abdomen. and the final trimester can cause placental abrupt sion, which was probably the case with to your dora. because when the baby came, the placenta came with it was on thought because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion to her. but to your dora, like many others was stigmatized and convicted without evidence. look at if you provoke or instigate in abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist her in any way, you're also go to prison and then i for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police. if miscarriages, or still birth, they report any kind of termination of pregnancy, inherently, this is massaging, stigmatization, and persecution for being a woman. no case paper, if a woman has
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a miscarriage, the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional on fed. when a woman becomes pregnant, she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. think on, get all the rights are violated. starting with a right to life, then the little i mean, ah some of which on the prism and we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but a judges go after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case. i don't think i don't that's the current status is just almost like bowman boss or not. i liked it. yeah, that's the we're back on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us to morrow . it's an important day mine. yeah, we need the support of all of you that will be gathering in front of the c double menendez court to support your daughter that her hearing apple yandell. abdul know
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ah, with common for me that what's your family's hope is to position for you? okay. well, what i would like is to her son, to have his mother's love. he has had to live with his grandparents, not his mother desolate, and that we'll pray to god that the case will be resolved and she will get her freedom back. let us down even by she's been oppressed for so long and unable to take care of her son than they possibly hope it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. so much of that that what this is based on your investigation is tail gotta innocent or guilty meadow, atheist, that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence. and i'm just presenting
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evidence to what does it go on as far as when mayor brown, instead of enough to be clear, was the child still born or could it have been killed or last night that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath bitterly. so it was still born what i think it didn't draw breath. i had a meeting with what happened to your baby earlier today? i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came here. i've been in prison ever since 11 years in prison. i how many people are in the same situation
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with emma to 23 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit quite an item from indiana. the foremost, how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent? very difficult. benefee. i faced hard times in prison, jeremy caught them. oh, don't i think i'm paying for a crime. i didn't commit a step i got under. he took enough of mckinney home to let him is, i mean, what is your message to the war world and to countries, lord abortion has still criminalized all question. you may say my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime. similar to mine. seemed like we did not commit this crime. somebody took a knowing look and we need our freedom back because it's our right in the isn't it . we have a right to freedom that they have violated our freedom with that, just not only my freedom but of many women. and as i said about the state did not
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support us but discriminated against us as women battle. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here. but i think you have a channel to live below. what are you asking from the judge's game? like i said, emily went that to give me back my freedom can like i said, i wonder at that because i am innocent. but again, because i have a family to fight for now. family african which i but because i have people who love me and need me to be with them, that's all ah, [000:00:00;00]
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so you like, how can a prosecutor say she killed without evidence? this kind of justice is not justice. you and i will become level spacing. mm ah, let's set up with the situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the world. please support el salvador. we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not paul. we uncovered by the patriarchal capitalist system we
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a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications that lead to miscarriage. they've asked for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years. they were found guilty of aggravated homicide. if you do that, either. this is a distress signal from amnesty international. in el salvador bullshit is prohibited it cases please help the listen with. i don't know that it is a country that has some of the world strictest abortion law just have delayed a rolling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison. after she gave birth to a still born baby, human rights organizations are calling for an end to el salvador total bound plan. and i will got a young lawyer came and gave me a paper and said meet him and you have to stand. look, i read this step with your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent here on dennis had that had this kid i sample for you. i had had a pain on
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a pretending. i took the paper and started reading so as dara. it said that i was absolved enough when it says i thought this can't be true. it's not my sentence was just upheld better now, but i read it again and again a 1000 times to make sure i understood a when i hit her. when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were crying and we love each other in here. ah, how can what we're family. ah, no for that i. the main thing is that we stuck together. one in because together we can break down the walls that surround us. ah, sam, but they know that my leaving here is
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a a i'm the one i didn't recognize anyone, not even my siblings or my nephews or not . i didn't recognize anyone. if you don't be a medical license either in your computer, it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired. i was free, but afraid to face life. so nobody or grey. i couldn't believe that. he called me mamma. call it. oh cindy ford. lincoln. lucille, hello young matthew, i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son, eagle,
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and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother yet this year lay dead than they were in the malady halling. for civil get but a login for him. my mother was his mother and he has to mothers in india for your felony, but in the day i got out i felt so much happiness a year and i believe it happened. and i mean, my mom was in, but also like i was split in to of been us from the city or killing that by the one part of me wanted to get out of him. and the other was afraid to leave the women behind a ha. does a minimum they told me we will also be freed. i'm in the mid allison,
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i'm stronger and i will join them so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you and fight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on every one who comes because we are fighters. we will not be silent . we are women who will face anything that comes our way. with me. hello friend, how are you? i'm very proud of you and myra i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son,
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your family. i love you very much, and i hope be out there with you one day soon. i'm sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much. a with mm. ah me. oh no, so my sister, it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. it's something else i will never get back. those 10 years of my life, little bit at, but that's my past to get somebody in any past that i'm living my president. now
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let me be sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. don't have yeah. that the need for getting i'm raising my voice on their behalf. jackie, i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences, battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women been on the bank quite. there are still 24 women in prison, dent on facing enormous difficulties so that the company ah, to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to go to your door, had a common vasquez, you on inspiration to
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a soul. ah ah, people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. no woman who has money is in prison, not one believe me. canada. some of we been thinking we are guilty because we are women. we have no rights. from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter. with what matters is the fetus we're carrying. looking at when the mother's health doesn't matter. only the child, i imagine a 12 year old girl going to school her future still ahead of her if she gets raped and pregnant, think i think she will be forced to have the child just because of our laws.
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jealousy, i believe this is unjust, too. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue now. mm pool. mm. ah, a, i let them. i wanted to see them, but i didn't think it be possible for me. yes, it was good to come back and visit the prison to see every one in saying that i am here in a kiss. i support you and will be with you no matter what the least in good times and bad. sam, when i'll be there is
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