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up to date and in touch. follow us lou. my name is theodora dot com and vasquez. i'm 34 years old. i've been in prison for 10 years in 6 months with with a abortion is a crime. thanks to our constitution. and salvador is still one of the few country.
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is that benz abortions in all cases with human rights organizations take advantage of women's lack of education and through forced propaganda and wise, they make them murderers of their unborn daughters and sons. it's a cruel act. it's a barbaric act. ah. as that i said, let me see. it was the 13th of july, 2007 you at in the, in
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a name. i was 9 months pregnant, i was working in central san salvador in la and the pain was unbearable to get my telephone. i started making calls amy that they are on the saddle. my baby is about to be born. i said, i'm not happy. i can't stand the pain. come help me, da sat for a family of the police said they would come here. but they never did know you that we went to look at my baby was born there and then germany i fainted for it's like and when i woke up and i tried to get help
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have gonna matter. why did you kill her? a man asked me, pomona, i haven't killed any one i said yet because he said yes, you killed your daughter. now you have to pay to my name. i kept passing out. am i got it? okay. i just remember waking up and then fainting again. i would be in my bathroom why i was almost dead it and thought i've been imprisoned of her side of the metal they hadn't 1st they said it was an abortion. if what didn't they changed it to aggravated homicide. they sentenced me to 30 years. ah when the summer when the door opened,
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i didn't want to look inside to look at any event at an end. no, no kidding. i didn't want to talk to anyone. okay, can i? i didn't want any one talking to me just i didn't anyway. i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her best having i was so excited. they're missing the missing women's sleep on the floor at 1st. can i was i was left on the floor for 7 months and i used to lie there crying. now i left by staring at the wall, wondering would i be able to leave the plant and when the truth would come out, you're the head decker, did it again? i was afraid that i would never get out again. i thought i won't survive. i'm going to die here. money here. momento,
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the load in chapel hill. again, the hearing in january, 2008. and i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. my parents had given a lawyer, $700.00 to take my case. guess levy the army, but he demanded that they give him land cattle, a house and a car by the limit, again on my bill and that army. my parents asked me if they should give him the house, but i couldn't leave them on the st. very nobody in the headline. okay, so i decided not to have a lawyer yonder cannot and then i will that i preferred to stay in prison longer. maybe if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, you give me ballot is illegal to be in abilene. i federal high, the years went by and my son grew up without me. me. okay. sandra saw
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me bad, but my parents were always worried because they didn't have money to visit me. i was 21 and i was born when dad, when he was 3 years old, i got pregnant again. and may must. i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children. and okay, my kiddo, is that what i want most just to be with anal gabrielle? it. how can i miss the best of his childhood? no, i am. i love him more than ever makin okay. i loved him from the day he was born and will love him until the day i die. but don't get back. they disappeared.
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having an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instinct against their own interests. after an abortion women's suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is abhorrent. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live with me. either one my any more had more than 3000 women live in the prison. can't they cannot. they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under now. yeah, there is no running water. the fact that the food is terrible is done. i mean, there are only 6 toilets for all these women. j
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m would have gone by. i met many other inmates and never realized they were in prison on similar charges. i thought i was alone, pakistanis one. but i wasn't they don't know it. i think the mom, we realized there were many women accused of the same crime in 88 and we'll have we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases demand for the 1st 2 classes. one them any. i don't think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not really not gonna buy something. i mean, i've lost everything. yeah. but i mean, i thought of innocent. i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here. but the thing was that i, i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing. do . and i was young. i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter, and i mean, she was 9 years old man and woman. i was 4 months pregnant with him and that's what they hit me and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me bleeding less than that. i just remember that i was given
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an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed that but that's all that i must all my life it. then i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed many and they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was making that i was alone in a room in the enemy, on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness and the dna test ended up when i did the ann who was the witness. my daughters father, who hit you. yes, anne, and you couldn't all know better since the prosecutor was on their side. they didn't allow lawyer to speak. minnie, i don't know, and they didn't allow my father to speak rather men in a i don't, he was my only witness. and i mean, it's like that on up a lot of me. but i've been here for almost 11 years and they sent him speech a 30 but what happened to you met with i was accused of aggravated homicide.
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yes, dying and i was at the hospital a problem there, but i all squire was handcuffed ab border with they said i was charged with murder . not telling me that i had killed my own dorsal mickey. i i was sure he no, no, no, no, you won't. i fell down. it was an accident. i have been along. i almost about my daughter a living me ha! they didn't let me see her a moment at the same thing and i'm going to be set on the day, mary, you don't get they all see why i did it. but galleria, i didn't understand what was happening in and then because i hadn't been, oh, i've been in the navy instead, but i did it. the doctor's blame. you have doctors called the police or the thought ahead, but okay. yeah, not on
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a lot better than they are. i didn't understand dana, they didn't give me an explanation. they took me to the police station. i believe i was there for about 8 days. how much then they brought me here. name if i had them back and then going on in. and then one of my daughters is 15 years old and the other is 12 20 am. but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men and i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me my to for after my mother died, i lost my baby. 20 days later i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i'm in the indiana. yeah. and whether $14.00 policemen were standing at the door of the church. i asked them, why are you looking for me? and they said my name am and i said yes, that's me. santa they said you're under arrest for murder. i asked why
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am i didn't kill anyone? they took my baby's body out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to maryland and i left my 2 daughters behind my. when my parents were no longer there to take care of them, and i didn't want to leave them with my brother. the one who had hurt me. my brother, his friends, have their families. while my daughters are suffering from mia and back and they're having a hard time on their own and i'm suffering without them. he also is now life has been really hard on me in that regard. what i mean, like only in the blue he has he sort of, i thought if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong or if maybe they just made a mistake,
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try to thank god it was evening when the again, when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry, think it would be wayne and because it means that el salvador sees women as property, has been handled. i'm one second. okay, that's the end of the dilemma that is, there been been a citizen and these laws allow them to rule over us. and the last young getting on their next sunday the put out. but we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies. it helps to not do anything about this situation. we're in that i began to ready to help with them will be me and her mom has we've part strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves as a mentor. think about it, but lawyers with the citizens group for the d. criminalization of abortion came in 2012, and i'm glad you called us because 17 sundays damaged the waste that we agreed that they would take on our cases. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means what it would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside the
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prison yet. and i stuck a family and eventually in at the moment. okay. the ambassadors told us they needed a spokes person to represent us when the girls chose me to play it, that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we had our spiritual freedom. see dear albert and yet, as he delora and she said about the order said go ahead. this is we started with 17 women. now there are more of the since 2009. we have identified a 129 cases. gamble hand difficult
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the 3rd, but then in addition to political lobbying mobilization and campaigning, no, the citizens group has a legal team that follows up on cases tamia dash is dockers cases on, not just one in the courtroom. they are one in the streets of an amazon and a guy who did the color that the f m l and party presented a penal code reform to decriminalize abortion inevitable because to save their lives. so they don't dine these conditions on is philip, president of the legislative assembly lorena pena presented the bill alongside women's groups, proposed glenda, sal palazzo. they're one of your last you, when as a result of rape, when the mothers labor's at risk, when it's a result of human trafficking, and when the case involves a minor candle, castle said that they may not as they are though happening. let us know. this seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution enshrining the right to life of
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every person. you know that a joy, levy the abilene, but as young as they faced with pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion. the catholic church objected to these measures against the archbishop called on the legislature, not to change the penal code while long as does while the because you on this i'll go, they go up with that. if they, some of them won't get out because if we are democratic, look at the percentages further on the point that the members of the legislator will see that if they vote to legalize abortion, they would be going against a vast majority of the population as young which christian blood also on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide alone. i'll come galaxy, did he cut the changing the charges violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia. lasagna, blah harris. the glass in the middle, or upper class women who have more money, have $2.00 options and in dob, either they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion,
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or they go abroad for the procedure, i think by isa don de larry elise hung out of cars will look in with that are murder is now considered a human right and it will not a mother's right that allow that this is an ideological relativism that for me, as a politician, it is an ideological up front to the west. america and its citizens that gone from america on darcy. this is the largest genocide in human history, much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war one by a little. but again, a few more cannot be selling harker states. he is not reviewed cases of miscarriages, that have led to women's imprisonment by men and gas. what else i want to say when it comes to miscarriages, no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage. older platform of value, you know, norman should go to jail for having an abortion. ha, ah,
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for contact our, what i understand the less enough is i was contacted by amnesty international about taking this case will bundle solomon and al, exclusively handle cases like this. since you left, but i believe it is essential for justice. going to sierra whale charge against a adora was aggravated homicide. yahoo! see major contradictions here to lactic fellow, either one up at. so another thing of the killing of a new born st. 30 to 40 weeks gestation shemelle m a n who was born alive, but died of parent natal. yes, fix you. there you go and i'll fix up it enough that he signs of a 6 year by drowning were found. see a lot of it. you born died of paranoia to las fix you not that she could not have died by drowning matthews. things are mutually exclusive. john parent aid to las, fix it as a natural cause of death and not what it cannot be one on the other. at the same time goes on him again. i don't think the judges even read the autopsy yet. i love
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talk you well, the lea a and that go when i read tale dora's file, which is very extensive, and then i must admit, i thought this woman is guilty by the file intentionally, leads you to believe that she is guilty. black with the advent of one, but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder how was it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion here calls the police 5 times to ask them for help? yeah, i believe if the bellman bent low, he guided the medical evidence as conclusive sympathy. she had a pre term birth to placental abruptly with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness. the sicily, her medical history is consistent with the information she provided, j. m. and if yes, the same, but i thought i was 9 months pregnant and as i was robbed when i was on my way to san salvador, with my sick mother, anthony m we f m. i was robbed on the bus. isn't that any good? the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me, landing right on my belly,
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play enemy style elizabeth, living alone in a blow to the abdomen. and the final trimester can cause placental abrupt sion. which was probably the case with to your dora. because when the baby came, the placenta came with it going on thought on because of the injury to the abdomen . this is the most logical conclusion to her. but to your dora, like many others was stigmatized and convicted without evidence that if you provoke or instigating abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist her in any way, you also go to prison and then i for 2 to 5 years and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, if miscarriages, or still births. they report any kind of termination of pregnancy, inherently. this is massaging, stigmatization, and persecution for being a woman. no case that but if a woman has a miscarriage,
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the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or fed. when a woman becomes pregnant, she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all her rights are violated, starting with the right to life. then the little i mean ah, some of which on the prism and we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but judges go after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case . i don't think i don't, that's the current status as a stomach bug boss or no, i liked it. well, does that we're back on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us to morrow . it's an important day mine. yeah, we need the support of all of you that will be gathering in front of the e. c. dable menendez court to support your daughter at her hearing. apple yandell
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abdel laura, it is a crucial day for her and she just there. so be there early from 7 am in front of the court house to show your support and her fight to regain her freedom.
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ah. come on for me then what's your family's hope as to position for you? okay, well then what i would like is to her son to have his mother's love canadian, and he has had to live with his grandparents, not his mother desolate. and we'll pray to god that the case will be resolved and she will get her freedom back. let us down even by she's been oppressed for so long and unable to take care of her son badly. possibly. it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. not much of that. there was, this is based on your investigation is tail got i innocent or guilty? made it easier. that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence. and i'm just
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presenting evidence that went on for going as far as when mayor brown. and let me know that to be clear, was the child still born, or could it have been killed or last night that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath bitterly. so it was still born. what i think it didn't draw breath aid with what happened to your baby and i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came here. i've been imprisoned ever since. i've been 11 years in prison. i. how many people are in
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the same situation with emma? secondly, 23 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit quite an item from indiana from us. how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent? very difficult then if i faced hard times in prison economy, quote them, i don't, i think i'm paying for a crime. i didn't commit, i don't like him. is that him? what is your message to the war world into countries where abortion has still criminalized all question. you may say my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime. similar to mine seemed that we did not commit these crimes. somebody took a knowing look, come if we need our freedom back because it's our right in the isn't it. we have a right to freedom that they have violated our freedom with that, just not only my freedom but of many women. and as i said about the state did not
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support us but discriminated against us as women battle. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here. but if they get a chance to live below, what are you asking from the judges? okay, like i said, i'm going to read that to give me back my freedom can like i said, i wonder at that because i am innocent. but again, because they have a family to fight for now. family up again, which had but because i have people who love me and need me to be with them. that's all ah, with
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them or did you kind of was it the 30 year sentence was upheld collateral. she was like, how can a prosecutor say she killed without evidence?
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this kind of justice is not justice. i'll see you in the hospital that was easy. ah . with fed up with this situation. we've had enough of the violence against women. people of the world, please support el salvador. we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not pool. we aren't covered by the patriarchal capitalist system. we women will keep fighting. this is an injustice
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in ah a flower arrangement was given to the legislature by a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications
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that led to miscarriage. the asked for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years. they were found guilty of aggravated homicide. if you do, you'll get a bottle. this is a distress signal from amnesty international. in el salvador bullshit is prohibited in cases. please help the listen with melanie, it is a country that has some of the worlds strictest abortion law just have delayed a rolling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby human rights organizations are calling for an end to el salvador total bound. when and i will gather. yeah, go to lawyer, came and gave me a paper and said meet. i met him. he said, look, i read this step when your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent here on dennis had that had this kid i sample for you. i had had a pain on a percentage. i took the paper and started reading so as dara it said that i was
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absolved, assessed him. i thought this can't be true. it's not my sentence was just upheld buffy man, but i read it again and again a 1000 times to make sure i understood it. ah, when i did her when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls. as though they were crying, and we love each other in here. ah, how can what we're family. ah, no for that i. the main thing is that we stuck together one in because together we can break down the walls that surround us. ah, sad that they know that my leaving here is a door opening for them to what that lack of data by
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hey good morning and thank you for being here. that's going to say that the ministry of justice and security has approved the commutation of the sentence of miss taylor door vasquez. i've been reducing it from 30 years to 10 years and 7 months to day
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care. dora vasquez walks free a 2nd chance at life. but i thank you for coming in with ah a
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i me in the didn't recognize anyone, not even my siblings or my nephew, a knock on us. i didn't recognize anyone. in the american university either. yes. and either it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired. i was free, but afraid to face life. nobody. i couldn't believe that. he called me mamma. call it. oh, singing ford. lincoln lithium, her young lady and i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son, eagle, and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother yet. this year lay dead,
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the name and the mother hauling. oh super good, but a look at her him. my mother was his mother and he has to mothers in india for your sally, but in the day i got out i felt so much happiness when i fill it up and i am in my room with him. but also like i was split in to be that for me or kill one that bad at the one part of me wanted to get out of it. and the other was afraid to leave the women behind to ha, to some minimum they told me we will also be freed. i'm in the middle of this, but i felt bad that i gotten lucky and they hadn't the 7th day then savvy, i guess i knew the march 8th protest existed,
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but i didn't know the extent of it. but my 1st time there was unforgettable. with interest being with them made me think when when i'm not alone, i'm stronger and i will join them so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is
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a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you and fight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on every one who comes because we are fighters. we will not be silent . we are women who will face anything that comes our way in any hello friend, how are you? i'm very proud of you and my at home when i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much, and i hope be out there with you one day soon. i'm sending you lots of kisses and
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hugs. i love you very much. a with mm. ah me. oh my sister, it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. it's not the santa, i will never get back those 10 years of my life. little bit at, but that's my pass to get somebody did any but that i'm living my present now. i mean, the sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. thought that the need for can. i'm raising my voice on their behalf. jackie,
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i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences, battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women been established under basic whether there are still 24 women in prison dentist facing enormous difficulties that the company i hate to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to go to your door. had a common vasquez, you on inspiration to us all. ah ah.
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people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. no woman who has money is in prison. not one believe me. i mean, some of we've been doing, we are guilty because we are women depending like we have no rights from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter with what matters is the fetus we're carrying in at the mother's help doesn't matter only the child, i imagine a 12 year old girl going to school, her future still ahead of her. if she gets raped and pregnant, i think she will be forced to have the child just because of our laws. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue now.
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mm pool. mm. ah, with them. i wanted to see them, but i didn't think it be possible for me. yes, it was good to come back and visit the prison to see every one in saying that i am here in a kiss. i support you and will be with you no matter what the least in good times and bad. sam, when i'll be there is a real bad turn ah,
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