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as that i said let me see. it was the 13th of july, 2007. you had any, any damage? i was 9 months pregnant as that i was working in central san salvador in la and the pain was unbearable for them. i think when i started making calls, amy that they all on the saddle, my baby is about to be born. i said, let it be, i can stand the pain. come help me, da sat for the family of the police said they would come here, but they never did. no, you can blame it to look at my baby was born there and then germany, i fainted. it
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quicken. when i woke up i tried to get help with my dad. why did you kill her? a man asked me to come alone. i haven't killed any one. i sadly applica. he said, yes, you killed your daughter. now you have to pay how many i kept passing out and look what it. okay. i just remember waking up and then fainting again. i would be at in my bathroom when i was almost dead. it angela says, i've been imprisoned of her side of the metal. the i don't 3rd, they said it was an abortion. if what didn't they changed it to aggravated homicide . they sentenced me to 30 years.
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ah, when the summer, when the door opened, i didn't want to look inside. don't look at any event but an end. not acadia. i didn't want to talk to anyone. okay, can i? i didn't want any one talking to me. if i had an enemy, i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her best having i was so excited. they're missing the missing women's sleep on the floor at 1st campus that was left on the floor for 7 months. and as i used to lie there crying on that by staring at the wall, wondering would i be able to leave the plant and when the truth would come out, you're the help desk here today. and again, i was afraid that i would never get out again. i thought i won't survive. i'm going to die here. money in animal mental. the load
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is. yep. movie. good. and the hearing in january 2008. and i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. my parents had given a lawyer, $700.00 to take my case, i guess, lithium. but he demanded that they give him land cattle, a house and a are source. me by the limit again on my been on that army. my parents asked me if they should give him the house, but i couldn't leave them on the street in a body and headline. so i decided not to have a lawyer. i preferred to stay in prison longer. if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, you gimme fallacy or davila living. i
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don't know how the years went by and my son grew up without me. me. me father's. but my parents were always worried because they didn't have money to visit me. i was 21 and i was born. ah, when dad, when he was 3 years old, i got pregnant again. like to live in may must, when i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children and okay, makeeta is that what i want most is to be with anal gabrielle element, but i missed the best of his childhood. no, i am. i love him more than ever makin okay. i loved him from the day he was born and will love him until the day i die. i don't get back. they disappeared.
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mm. having an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instinct against their own interests. after an abortion women's suffer clinical depression, but this kind of depression is abhorrent. these women have killed girls and boys who had the right to live on. i mean, either one mother didn't mean will had more than 3000 women live in the prison. can't they cannot, they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under now. yeah, there is no running water. the fact that the food is terrible is done. i mean, there are only 6 toilets for all these women. j.
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m, with your company. i met many other inmates. i never realized they were in prison on similar charges. i thought i was alone, episode, but i wasn't fatal. no, i see. no demon, we realized there were many women accused of the same crime been ha them. we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases, their math one for 2 classes. one the many. i don't think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was no criminal, got both of them. i've lost everything. we have that even though the minister, i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here, but the thing was that i, i don't know how she is doing. i know nothing do. when i was young, i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter, and i mean, she was 9 years old man and woman. i was 4 months pregnant with them. and when they hit me and the baby died, i started bleeding
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a lot. my daughter saw me bleeding less than that. i just remember that i was given an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed that but that's all that i must on my left. then i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed many and they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was and we can then again, i was alone in a room by indiana on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness and the dna test gave them a lot by the end. who was the witness? my daughters father who hit you yesterday and you couldn't call no, they don't. since the prosecutor was on their side, they didn't allow my lawyer to speak a minute, and i don't not believe it. they didn't allow my father to speak rather men in a i don't, he was my only witness. and i mean, it's like that on up villanueva, but i've been here for almost 11 years. they sentenced me to 30. well,
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what happened to you? now was i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dinah and i was at the hospital, a felon. then i also why i was handcuffed what a mosquito they said i was charged with murder. tell me that i have killed my own daughter. mickey asked, i was sure she no, no, no, no, you won't. i fell down. it was an accident. i have been along my honest about my daughter in letting me ha, they didn't let me see her a moment. i said on the day, mary, you don't get, they asked me why i did it. but kelly, i didn't understand what was happening in and then because i hadn't b o b instead. but who did it? the doctors blame you. the doctor's called the police the thought anyway,
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but okay. yeah. not on my lap than there. i didn't understand name, they didn't give me an explanation. they took me to the police station. i believe i was there for about 8 days. go much. then they brought me here. name. if i had them back, they went on in and they, i think one of my daughters is 15 years old than the other is 12 20 am. but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men. and i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me my way to for after my mother died, i lost my baby. 20 days later me i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i'm in the indiana and whether one policeman were standing at the door of the church and i asked them, why are you looking for me? and they said my name am and i said yes,
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that's me. center. they said you're under arrest for murder. i asked why i didn't kill anyone. they took my baby's body out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to now and i know i left my 2 daughters behind my. my parents were no longer there to take care of them. he didn't want to leave them with my brother. the one who had hurt me. my brother, his friends, have their families. while my daughters are suffering from mia and back and they're having a hard time on their own and i'm suffering without them. he yourself as hell, life has been really hard on me in that regard. what i mean? like all in this blue. yes he has. he sort of, i thought, so if i'm the only one,
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maybe they just got it wrong or it was maybe they just made a mistake to thank god it was to find the again, when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry. i think it would be when at, because it means that el salvador sees women as property, hernando, the dom. well, you know, 2nd, because that stand up dilemma that is there, but they said it had these laws allow them to rule over us. and the last young getting all the next sunday, the put out, but we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies. it helps to not do anything about this situation. we're in that at the end of that he does help with family man. yes, you will have to leave court strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves. and as i meant also get better. lawyers with the citizens group for the de criminalization of abortion came in 2012, and i'm glad you called us because 17 sunday, and monday ways that we agreed that they would take on our cases. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means it would be the 1st to denounce the
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conditions inside the prison, yet on the family and eventually at the moment. okay. the ambassadors told us they needed a spokes person to represent us. when the girls chose me for you. william, that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we had our spiritual freedom. see dear alba and yelled as if the delora and she said about the order said go ahead. this is we started with 17 women. now there are more of the since 2009. we have identified a 129 cases. gamble hand difficult to
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discern a but then in addition to political, lobbying mobilization and campaigning, now the citizens group has a legal team. duct follows up on cases. pain. man dash is dockers cases on. not just one in the court room. they all want in the streets of an armoire. okay. ah, the dollar that a, the f m l in party presented a penal code reform to decriminalize abortion inevitable. they get to save their lives, so they don't dine these conditions on as well. i'm president of the legislative assembly lorena pena presented the bill alongside women's groups. wisdom garcia brothers. both one of your last you, when as a result of rape, when the mother's life is at risk, when it's a result of human trafficking. and when the case involves a minor candle castle so that they may not as they are though i bring that up. and this seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution enshrining the right
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to life of every person in that age. all of either i believe, but as young as they faced with pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion. the catholic church objective to these measures other yes, the archbishop called on the legislature not to change the penal code while long asked as well if he got you on this, i'll go the got better. if the some of them won't get out. because if we are democratic, look at the percentages for them, that quint, that the members of the legislator will see that if they vote to legalize abortion, they would be going against a vast majority of the population as young christian. good luck. also, the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception, so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide alone. i'll come down what they did because from the changing the charges violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carrie is a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia, such langer langer harris nicholas in the middle, or upper class women who have more money. you have 2 options, and in dob,
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either they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion, or they go abroad for the procedure, i think by isa don de larry, elise hung out of cars will begin with that. are murder is now considered a human right and it will not a mother's right allow that. this is an ideological relativism that for me, as a politician, it is an ideological up front to the west, the america and its citizens, the gone that america on darcy. this is the largest genocide in human history, much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war one by a little. but again, if you will, can already felony harker states, he has not reviewed cases of miscarriages that have led to women's imprisonment by men and casala when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage older platform. thaniel known woman should go to jail for having an abortion ah
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for contact on what i understand, unless enough res i was contacted by amnesty international about taking this case will bundle solomon and now exclusively handle cases like this since your left. but i believe it is essential for justice. going to sierra way on the charge against her. dora was aggravated homicide. yahoo! see major contradictions. her silly act itala love you though enough. but so another thing of the killing of a new born st. the 30 to 40 weeks gestation, shemelle them and then who was born alive, but died of parent natal, asphyxia. they have either one, i'll fix upgrade enough. then he signs of a 6 year by drowning were found. she in love with it. you born died of parent a to las fix year, not that she could not have died by drowning. so matthews, things are mutually exclusive. don't paranoid to las, fix it as a natural cause of death. they're not what it cannot be one on the other at the same time goes on with them. i don't think the judges even read the autopsy yet. i
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love talk to you by the lee and that it go when i read tale dora's file, which is very extensive. and then i must admit, i thought this woman is guilty to the file intentionally, leads you to believe that she is guilty. black with the effort of one, but when you sit down and waited more carefully, you wonder, ma'am, and how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help? yeah, i believe is, but that meant that law, he guided the medical evidence as conclusive sympathy. she had a pre term birth placental, abrupt sion with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness. this is her medical history is consistent with the information she provided am and if yes, the same. and i thought i was 9 months pregnant, and as i was robbed when i was on my way to san salvador, with my sick mother, i am we a family i was robbed on the bus,
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innocent that on. and i think the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me, landing right on my belly, playing a misdemeanor. elizabeth, living alone in a blow to the abdomen. and the final trimester can cause placental abrupt sion, which was probably the case with to your dora. because when the baby came, the placenta came with it going on thought because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion to her. but to your dora, like many others was stigmatized and convicted without evidence though. okay, if you provoke or instigating abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist her in any way, you also go to prison and then i for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, if miscarriages, or still birds. they report any kind of termination of pregnancy, inherently, this is massaging, stigmatization, and persecution for being
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a woman. no case that but if a woman has a miscarriage, the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or fed. when a woman becomes pregnant, she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all their rights are violated, starting with a right to life. then the little, i mean, ah, some of which on the prism and we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but judges go after 6 months of fighting with court of appeals agreed to review the case. so say one does that says yeah, i don't think i don't think that's the current status as a stomach bug boss or no, i liked it. well that's the we're back on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us to morrow. it's an important day my yes, we need the support of all of you that will be gathering in front of that. you see the woman end as court to support your door that her hearing apple yandell abdel
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ah. come on for me then what's your family's hope is the position for you? okay. well then what i would like is to her son, to have his mother's love canadian, and he has had to live with his grandparents, not his mother, doesn't matter. we all pray to god that the case will be resolved and she will get her freedom back. let us gavin, by she's been oppressed for so long and unable to take care of her son. badly possible, you know, it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. so much about that. what are the system based on your investigation? is tail gotta innocent or guilty made of atheist,
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that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence. i'm just presenting evidence that when i was going as far as when mayor brown and letting me know that to be clear, was the child still born or could it have been killed or, oh, i feel last night that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath bitterly, so it was still born. what i think it didn't draw breath. a complete with what happened to your baby. and i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came here. i've been imprisoned ever since. i've been 11 years in prison. i how many people
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are in the same situation with emma secondly, 23 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit quite an item from indiana from us. how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent? it very difficult. then if i faced hard times in prison economy, quote them, i don't, i think i'm paying for a crime. i didn't commit a little game. is that what is your message to the war world and to countries where abortion has still criminalized all question, you may say my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime. similar to mine seemed like we did not commit these crimes and i didn't know emma come if we need our freedom back because it's our right target in the isn't it . we have a right to freedom that they have violated our freedom with that. just not only my freedom but of many women. and it's outside of the state, did not support us,
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but discriminated against us as women fatal. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here, but if they give a chance to live below, what are you asking from the judges? k, like i said, emily went to give me back my freedom can if i said, i wonder at that because i am innocent. but again, because i have a family to fight for now if i me up again, which had but because i have people who love me and need me to be with them, that's all it's ah, with
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a prosecutor say she killed without evidence? this kind of justice is not justice. i'll see you in august. isn't that was easy. ah, with fed up with the situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the world. please support el salvador. we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not paul. we uncovered by the patriarchal capitalist system we
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a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications that lead to miscarriage. asked for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years. they were found guilty of aggravated homicide as either either. this is a distress signal from amnesty international. in el salvador bullshit is prohibited cases. please help the listen. with melanie, it is a country that has some of the worlds strictest abortion law just have delayed a rolling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby. human rights organizations are calling for an end to el salvador totally bond fund and i will gather yeah. go to lawyer, came and gave me a paper and said meet emily. like you said, look i read this step when your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent here on dennis had left this kid i sample for you. i never sent me. i
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took the paper and started reading. so as dara it said that i was absolved. quite a said i thought this can't be true. it's not my sentence was just upheld buffy man, but i read it again and again a 1000 times to make sure i understood with when i did on when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were crying, and we love each other in here. ah, how can i went where family? ah, la fuente, i thought the main thing is that we stuck together one in because together we can break down the walls that surround us. ah, sad that they know that my leaving here is
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i'm the didn't recognize anyone, not even my siblings or my nephew, a knock on a see, i didn't recognize anyone. didn't the american me listen. yes, and either it was a long day, but i wasn't even tired. i was free, but afraid to face life. nobody. i couldn't believe that. he called me mamma. call it. oh cindy ford. lincoln lucila her young though mother. i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son, eagle,
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and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother this year lay dead, the name and the mother hauling all simple things, but get but a look at her him. my mother was his mother and he has to mothers in indian for your felony, but in the day i got out. i felt so much happiness. yeah. yeah. and i filled it up and i mean my mom was in but also like i was split into the bathroom if you could or kill one that bad at the one part of me wanted to get out of it. and the other was afraid to leave the women behind a ha. nathan minimum, they told me we will also be freed. i'm in the mid allison, but i felt bad that i gotten lucky and they had made you sarah taylor
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hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you in fight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here. we will take on every one who comes because we are fighters. we will not be silent. we are women who will face anything that comes our way. with me. hello friend, how are you? i'm very proud of you and my along with i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much,
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and i hope to be out there with you one day soon. sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much, a with mm ah see. oh my god, also my sister. it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. it's up to santa, i will never get back those 10 years of my life a little bit at. but that's my pass to get somebody did any by sat. i'm living my present now. i mean, descending, and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. don't have yeah that the
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need for, but again, i'm raising my voice on their behalf. jackie, i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences, battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women being under banquet, there are still 24 women in prison dent on a facing enormous difficulties so that the company i hate to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to go to your door. had a common vasquez, you on inspiration to us all. ah
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for the people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. known woman who has money is in prison. not one believe me. coming. suddenly bending too, we are guilty because we are women. anyway, we have no rights from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter with what matters is the fetus we're carrying. pm. i don't know if anyone at the mother's help doesn't matter. only the child, i imagine a 12 year old girl going to school her future still ahead of her. if she gets raped and pregnant thing, i think she will be forced to have the child just because of our laws. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this
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issue. ah, ah, i let them. i wanted to see them, but i didn't think it be possible for me. yes, it was good to come back and visit the prison to see every one in saying that i am here till meeting a kiss. i support you and will be with you no matter what the least in good times and bad. sam, when i'll be there. ah
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