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tv   Faith Matters  Deutsche Welle  March 5, 2023 1:02am-1:31am CET

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d, w dot com ah ah, [000:00:00;00] ah, now, what does holy mean to me? i'd say family, children, grandchildren, they're sacred to me on the 15th or the connection between humans and god, to me, that's holy. he moved the possibility of a bond to go to work. that's what holy means me. i the only suck when someone says holy,
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they also always mean the unknown. the good. the holy is actually what divine is disgusted. ah. the haile gets in tempe in the holy area of a temple is usually inaccessible, closed off. something that mustn't be touched, that gets you pause. something hidden a taboo or was i taboo? ah, sank to sank to sanctus. holy holy holy. the chant has been part of the christian liturgy for at least 1500 years. all religions recognize some things as holy mountain such as lou ruined australia sacred to the aborigines. a city like mecca wholly to muslims. all the bible is sacred to christians. that's why they call it holy scripture. in the past, the word holy suggested
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a special proximity to god holiness was associated with the divine. but what does the concept holy mean to people to day? ah, madonnas and saints often feature in robert feathers, work above his studio in berlin. the german painter has arranged a chapel full of his own works ot her thought of prayer. oh jim, earn 2 to come choral, singing a few years ago. oh, he says he came to his art through a vague longing, la,
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and it was the same feeling that brought him to singing some kreger addison, uncle, i 1st discovered gregorian chant for myself about 10 years ago. i might have when i spent 14 days in tuscany and the come orderly monastery grew. so the foot of the castle, there was singing there and i joined her. i sat on them and was very moved by the singing. then i came to berlin, bolted and joined a choir called carrasco la mixing. singing is very beneficial for your state of mine, and this is the especially gregorian chants acquired, which is more than a 1000 years old. so naturally it touches your soul, either through his era. ah, ah darlin, dazed rather, feather has been exhibiting his work internationally for almost 30 years. his
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paintings often deal with the concept of faith and the church. some were inspired by the poetry of the 16th century spanish mystic john of the cross. mm. other paintings referred to saints and still others refer to the infinite ah . is kinda my was reading the bible even before i started school, did i already knew how to read? going dana, back then. it wasn't so much the content, but the language that fascinated me later i started to play the piano and the organ in church tomorrow. and i've always painted and well how did i come to the saints? i didn't have an epiphany or anything like that. it just developed over time. my painting is an essence, a search for god. whatever that means understandable. basically, everything that you can't grasp immediately is metaphysical one. mo,
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picked the clay from con, ah, representations of what is wholly, are always an attempt to represent something that ultimately cannot be depicted. what is holy is inaccessible to humans. when we speak of the holy, we mean something that lives beyond our sphere of influence ah, nevertheless, people have searched for the sacred for thousands of years, including in special places, such as mountains or deserts. these were places where you could dream freely where people had experiences that went beyond their lives.
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ah, the lutheran theology, peter should studies the idea of the holy and its history. hung in will even an ancient source says there is a talk of holy mountains with holy sciences tomorrow, some of which still exists today as a loft. as hoyt access to the bible also speaks of such holy mountains that awakened a mysterious longing. i missed full disease or cubic tom. ah, he's a present moment to begin. these are singular encounters with something other vegetables on something very special that something holy that can't be put into words. fiscal fights at best, it can be expressed in the form of secret medicine. do they preserve this place and make the holy somewhat tangible i've bottom line, even if it ultimately always stays beyond reach? is all it's always receding back into the inexpressible midst of the holy hiding.
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when all starters cut ah, some 2000 years ago, the counts erected buildings on a mountain in hudson. later christians also recognized it as a holy place and named interest in beg, ah, was come on the chinese from dawn up. listen to something else that points to that is that the 1st a small christian chapel or churches were built here as early as the 7th or 8th century anymore. very bought and then continuously reworked logging. so you could say that a sacred place on a holy side keeps reinventing itself all transfers. it tries to give this special holiness shapes trying to set the experience in stone and create a space for holiness. and for that aura, which people have experienced here on the top, ah, putting the feeling of the holy into words isn't easy. that is why it is often
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stirred artists and inspired them to be creative. mm. christian art, the architecture of sacred spaces and especially church music are an integral part of religious practice. oh, cool. music is not tangible. it is fleeting. oh, it lives entirely in the event marker, a characteristic that it has in common with religion. why? oh oh, wow. lulu
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ah ah ah ah, for a long time the churches defined what was to be understood as holy with their doctrinal formulas and ceremonies. that changed in 1917. when the lutheran theology rudolph auto published a slim volume entitled the idea of the holy, it was translated into all major languages and created a stir among european theologians. rudolph otto
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had found a new way of describing religion. guntee this forced the basic idea of the book was not to examine religion through its doctrinal statements. that is to say not to talk about dogmas or religious rights and such a use of eton, but to ask what lies behind these things are in boston? what is the mysterious power that religious teachings wholly taxes and sacred buildings and customs gave rise to many years ago. boy don't boys. you bought us have 4 point. rudolph auto asked. what is the essence of religion? really? to answer this question, he set out on a trip around the world that ended in the far east. he learned about other religions, such as hinduism and buddhism, and explored how they are lived. the insights he brought back forms the basis of
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the religious studies collection at the phillips university and mar, borg to day i was going to was on the law. this is what made this work special was the main question he dealt with. namely, how is this thing which holds every religion together? this immediate religious experience, which he then called the holy, how is this represented? how was it shown liquor? he then develop the concept that emotional experience lies at the core of all religions experiencing the holy. he saw this as an anthropological component. every human has it, and every human strives for it. ah, the holy isn't something we can grasp intellectually. at something that sees as us emotionally. it happens to us. we experience it. we have no control over it.
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ah rudolph auto tries to describe this somewhat irrational element by asking what it triggers in us in feel of. thus in him i live struck him that in religious the holy is primarily experienced as a shuddering. i think it has a strange, almost disconcerting power that makes people feel deeply humble. that's the coughed hot. so at the same time, it's profoundly fascinating, the t for z, it triggers a deep longing and people to get closer to what's holy to merge with it in for otto, this dual effect on the one hand, attracting you and on the other repelling, you is an essential core aspect of the holy and of religion and general coun momentum. this hiding want to help you on about ah, this becomes clear, for instance, in the christian symbol of the crucified jesus. a man torture to death who suffer deeply. but he overcame the suffering. his death was followed by resurrection and
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that gives rise to hope. there is something similar in the hindu goddess cully. you have in here you see cali, a black goddess may and one of the most powerful indian divinities. if you look closely, you can see that she is wearing a necklace of skulls around her neck, several hands around her waist and there is blood on her tongue and a blue. this goddess embodies the most terrible aspects of transcendence or the holy i'm sending. but at the same time, she is benevolent and loving the before and then the state of food as he does above in the hindu tradition. she also represents the female energy principal shakopee. so she represents overcoming the dreadful things that people experience in life in all those ought to his view. the holy is precisely this emotional experience of religion. i think a positive hope that which is full of light and radiant. the idea of resurrection
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in the christian tradition and the experience of death and suffering ah, the pilgrimage church in nevis, on the edge of the ruler valley. this still goes to unblock it, will have the strongest impression of the sense of the holy is the fact that the marine dawn was built here in a bigger as a tent, albeit and concrete. it has a light folded roof and light. fighting with the littleton also from the pickup. if you look up, you almost can't see the roof because it's not illuminated fog. you can only sense
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it's full of their gazes drawn into the heavens into the unknowable. it's hold on the open of now. and so when you're down here on the middle is huge space, you have an almost overwhelming impression that you're standing under heaven of hope. then under the sun and a sense that god, the invisible is behind it, that, that got that info. and we'll just been honest chaplain, father, phil de cough belongs to the priestly community of saint martin. he and his 3 confreres have been administering the marine doormen navigators for 3 years. the church was built in 1968 by the german architect, godfrey born in what was then the modern style known as brutal ism the term comes
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from the french word put meaning concrete. the architectural style is symptomatic of the sixty's when people wanted to break away from traditional church architecture and experience a new authenticity reduced to essentials because of its size. the pilgrimage church is known as the marine dome, the cathedral of our lady, but it was never the suit of a bishop is especially popular with polish pilgrims and has space for 2000 worshippers. they are drawn here by a small picture depicting mary began smoking dull is amusing, the marines almost like an enormous house or a huge slippery for the tiny miraculous emares. but pilgrims come here to venerate both all your local lice. am i right at the entrance to the cathedral soil? you see a small 7 centimeter high fixture and a beautiful column, which is nothing more than a page from england is glenna bits. and this little picture is my pilgrims come
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here to the biggest bonnie because a book page showing an image of mary. the story goes that the virgin mary spoke to a franciscan friar from this picture in $1684.00 not doesn't 100 percent of the skeleton healings have occurred after people prayed in front of this picture to the blessed mother who carried the prayer to god. a bull we're going to so you might say the church is a huge mystical grotto for the tiny holy thing that's venerated here, up from which healing emanates, and holiness and healing are of course closely related to skills. examine, making the inexpressible, the holy, accessible and experiential. that's what pilgrimage. churches like the marine dome are all about.
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the catholic church venerate many saints, images of saints and prayer, and a venus to things have been part a popular piety since the middle ages. the liturgical scholar alexander established in sky explains the relevance of these practices. highly gazande years of scenes are so to speak, the specialty of the catholic church. rubbish. not only do we have many things, but there's a hierarchy among law to the future. you can see are most important. st behind me was about mary. the mother of gone to you, the water got us. that was on the on maria. i'd steer what it makes merry special is that she was completely open to god for got guns. and gar, often for when the into april, if he had to marry bringing her to message that she would conceive a child, and not exactly under natural circumstances. while she was open to that incomprehensible event, history of marya is, mary was the door through which the holy eager god himself, i entered this world into the profane can. and since then,
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this world is no longer just profane, but is itself wholly han san and zebra? fun highly sh on fastest he but that's what the science mean to us catholic schools cut to lincoln. ah oh. busy busy oh.
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ready oh oh oh what religions call god or the god is the radical other than most powerful and remote at the same time, all religion seek to approach and connect with the sacred in various ways.
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a common catholicism has always responded strongly to pictorial representation, to the physicality of it constantly. it's a practical approach to the fact that people long to make contact with the sacred and this often expresses itself in a relationship to images, to real physical thing auditor, demons yawn can of protestantism, on the other hand, has always been very skeptical of this tendency. and how to, emma, he refers to and it was afraid that people could feel that what they had held in their hearts was actually only human. damon and osmond as i'm out saying that these in the end are just wall, seen much at the sound. you hear is just a music. oh that the images you see are just pictures created by people build on humans eat. oh, fun mentioned gamma that to avoid this danger or protestantism has always tried to distance itself from physical representation. the form for this. it says that what is really holy must be invisible, i and cannot be reached by human means. want does one that is empty with mentally
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midland missed her cold. any one who enters the marine dome and never guess and walks towards the altar is confronted by a huge, bare concrete wall. a kind of projection surface for this invisible god, for the holy. and at the same time, the incomprehensible thick else at all with other voices and get the whole building in its vastness. cigar is a symbolic image of the holyfield, which is at once attractive and fascinating and somehow shocking it. because this is in the christian understanding that god is exactly that on the whole, the one who both attracts and frightens us. and if he is frightening because he is the unknown, whether that will become thirst. the all to at the center of the church is the place where the connection with god is
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established through christ. here the idea of the holy is focused here stand the cross, which in turn is both fascinating and frightening. it's the place of death and of redemption. ah, ah, perhaps no word is better suited to express the magic and depth of our existence than the word holy. but the question of what holy is will always remain a mystery. busy forever unknowable is. i think it's permission for me because holy is what is incomprehensible yet. that's what intrigues me and what is generally interesting. an art,
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the artist pains what he can't express in words. i think that the world is actually supernatural. not the things you see and think and speak, but what lies behind them? don't crystal on the society. ah, the experience of the holy is part of human life. even people, without any religious affiliation, can experiences you could say it predates our faith and is more fundamental than religion itself. kelly johnson is from him. your religions didn't fall from the sky all, and they aren't based on singular revelation events of a supernatural kind. not sure the show they come from inside people see common austin on this mentioned isn't there part of our inner world of it? that's where the holy is located. ought of hiding. it causes people to change on the inside. no, i know we discover a strong need for expression,
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but swiftness and the religions are precisely that on the other forms of expression int he constantly reinventing themselves, you don't know and constantly changing to express the mysterious idea of the holy, fresco. hi, miss fuller. miss taylor does highly ah, what is holy cannot be captured in with it? confound fan and it touches us. oh
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