this is d w business. i'm janelle de malott unwelcome. germany is said to band some chinese supplied components from it's 5 g networks. the band would include components already and use and require operators to dismantle and replace them. that's according to a german newspapers, citing government sources that as fears grow about chinese telecom suppliers like while way and the t e could present espionage and cybersecurity risks if involved in the build up of critical infrastructure. john strand from strand consulting joins us now. he's the author of much circulated report highlighting germany's dependence on chinese suppliers for it's 5 g infrastructure. john, it's good to see you again. now, you've said nearly 60 percent of germany's us 5 g networks relies on chinese part. now, how easy is it to sleep, to simply switch out those parts? can that genie be put back in the bottle?

let me say very simple. it says the journey come to the situation that it took me so long time to take the right decision. the reality is germany still in the early process rolling out 5, g, and basically they can stop using chinese equipment morrow and thought using other kinds of equipment. that's one thing. the 2nd thing, of course, and there's some equipment need to get reuben replace sad for the operators, but that's a cost they could avoid it is if they have done like upgrades done in the numbers of, of the congress. now you've alluded to cyber security threats in the past coming from china. how easy is it for a germany to be able to strike a balance between ramping up it's 5 g infrastructure, but also keeping cyber security threats at bay? i would just say using chinese look at communication infrastructure to build the fundamental virginia society is just like doing drunk driving in a car without any airbags in it. any seat bills are,

is very and responsible. the reality is that germany, people are talking much about spying. the issue is not find the issues that, that china can turn off. the german telecommunication network was facing the fundamental, the due to society. they can turn them off and turn it to, they can stop delivering software updates and that will have an impact. and 6 to 12 months and based on the network will not work. that's a little bit a little bit easier for the chinese to do this than the russians to turn off the gas. now, john, i would like to get you to react to a statement from a while way that was sent to us earlier today. and while we said, for the past 20 years while we are supplied germany and the rest of the world with extremely reliable technology, with a very good security record and no meaningful incidence, they said that they won't react to speculation. what do you think when you hear that statement from while way? it's a standard statement. what ways coming would they come with similar statements?

many times we did a report about the 10 knees in while ways communication. this is just one of them. and basically, so he's of the deep on the reality is china is an integrated part of the chinese, a while ways integrated part of the chinese system. today. there's very close relationship between the chinese communist party of the chinese government. and wally, basically, while we're in the pocket of the chinese government. so basically, sorry, i'm sorry to say i don't trust them. i think if you have the h as i have an experience, the old east germany, you realize that the, the courts, the life, the wasn't east germany was significant from the one you had in west germany. you have a different kind of freedom. china to day is just a, the old east germany in a diesel version on steroids. so i'm sorry to say i don't buy the document, john strand from strang consulting. thank you very much for your time today. thank you. now to some of the other global business stories making news,

china's exports fell by almost 7 percent combined in january and february. according to china's customs agency. imports dropped to as many chinese companies bring in less parts and materials for many of their exports. the figures show the global slowdown has cut demand for chinese products. people across france are experiencing widespread disruption today as millions strike against president and manuel microns pension reforms. almost all train and metro services funded, and schools across the country closed. it is the 6th day of strikes over the proposed reforms. since mid january jet blues bid to buy rival spirit airlines is likely to be blocked by the u. s. department of justice and transportation. according to multiple reports, citing people familiar with the matter. the government fears the takeover could increase ticket prices and reduce options for travelers. sunny weather,

gorgeous speeches. travelers all over the world are going to hit the road and take to the skies again this year. despite all the crises and uncertainties. the hospitality sector expects to return to pre pandemic levels this year. according to the world travel monitor, the report was released for the opening of the itv in berlin. the world's largest travel trade show. according to the survey, beach trips will be the most popular holiday followed by city trips. holidays in the countryside are mountains which experienced a boom during the pandemic will remain popular. i'm joined now by johan, his rec. he's the ceo of the online travel agency. get your guide. he is somewhere picturesque. johan, as tourism is back, it seems. how did your company do during the pandemic? oh janelle, thank you for asking you was asking the ground for 2 years and 202-2021 during the

lock down to get your guy leading. marketplace looking, travel experience was actually a donor. so we had your revenues i'm there was really none of our fractions. the next day that in 22 where she doubled our sales volumes from 20192023. we're up again significantly over 2022. so tourism is back on, is better, i would say on ok, so from 0 revenues to double. so would you say that the industry has definitely put the pandemic behind it now? yes, for sure. i would say the eagerness of people to travel is stronger than ever before . i think you realize what we missed only in 2022. i think there was saying during the and i made the tourism is over and like will never travel again. it will say it, you know, watch netflix and consume on amazon and delivery. but i think we've all figured out that that is very room. it lacks connection, it lacks culture,

it lacks discovery. and that's really what you guys dance bond is so happy to see the attraction we have currently in our industry because we were damaged to march and, and to see that revival is just joyful. well, you certainly don't have to start traveling to me, but you know, there are plenty of reasons for people not to including inflation straining people's budgets. is this a concern at all for you? asking yourselves the question all the time the statistics are pretty simple on the online travel market. no, no. today is roughly $500000000000.00 us dollars a year. no, it will actually double all the way up to 2030. and if you look at the global level travel markets, including offline, we're so significantly below the trunk line off. and so i think there will be sure from physical goods, tories experiences, millennials today, 80 percent, actually of them say that they don't want to buy more goods. they want to

experience the world. and i think that will be a massive taylor. i mean, no one is the extra garden furniture right now. i was like no one needs to buy like the 1st and it's like the actual school in the kitchen, but everyone wants to get out and experienced. well, i think the travel industry will re experience that tell when that's just a great message for people around the world. i was saying that in the media on a recorded on doing it and i'm, it was what the situation was in developing countries. i mean, think of latin america, think of asia, those people haven't seen the income, you know, from the years. so i'm just so glad that now people are going to get back and traveling and spending no tourism dollars in developing economies. and by helping them get back on that. so i'm also very happy that right marketplace. you can play a part in that here on a struct telling us not to buy furniture about to travel more. he's the feel the

online travel, able to get your guide. thank you. now, earlier we mentioned that i t v. travel trade show underway here in berlin. and this year a special guest of course at that trade show is georgia where tourism is booming. the country has a lot to offer from wine tours to gambling adventures, but the effects of climate change cloud, the hype and no fraud drive. so lots of major and wild mountains near the city of bottom. in georgia, they used to be only few enthusiastic tourists in this part of the caucasus. but now businesses booming, even when the sky is gray. 23 year old guitar jr. it has 4 or 4 vehicles. he is offering nature tours for around 20 euros for robert on authorized roots. it's legal to drive, but we have specific places we. i said national parks way say like any miles burton

likes, is this special border and this security. and you cannot go. he said by jip, gear gear and south his vehicles near mark, no city waterfall. he also offers horse riding cono in rafting, and he was ski scooter excursions into the mountains, making sure that his business ye route. but many here at the waterfall, very, the tourists may not come in summer due to climate change and its effect on the falls. kately montela i because of the climate change summers have become way too hot. it rains less and therefore, or waterfall has less and less water in summer months. casino tourists flocking to but to me, can't be bothered by the weather. they come from near by country is where gambling is prohibited. the tourist influx to the city has led to a bomb in construction near the beach, naco tourism managers advertise, georgia is

a haven of security and stability in the troubled blacks. the region is within that georgia is accounting. the crystals of europe and asia belongs to europe. and with it's values for the hotel castelow mary, the season starts in may, management, relies on european guests for the presidential suite that costs around 2000 euros per night. last year polish tory stop to list lee i for kristin iraq in our customers because festival 0 interesting and payable customers. now more and more airlines flight georgia. the country expects the record number of visitors this year. and a reminder of the top business story we're following for you this hour. germany is set to ban wall way from it's 5 g network. the bandwidth who components already in use and require operators to dismantle and replace them. it's a mid concerns that certain chinese telecom, telecom equipment could present

a cyber security risk and make critical infrastructure dependent on china. that's our show from our check out d, w dot com slash business, and the data leanings each channel for also on facebook. thank you so much for watching with ah, with ah,

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