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ah ah ah ah, the state of we knew is long from berlin new leads about who was responsible for blowing up the north stream pipelines. us and german media reports suggest a pro ukrainian group carried out the attack on the natural gas pipelines under the baltic sea. also on the show calls for just this after
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a ukrainian soldier is apparently executed on video ukraine launches an investigation. after graphic footage emerges of an unarmed ukrainian prisoner allegedly being shot dead by russian troops plus mass disruption in france as tens of thousands joined a french wave of protest against president mark cost plan to raise the retirement age. and after a wave of suspected poison attack hits a rainy in school girls, teachers lead rallies, calling on the government to take action. ah, i'm really welcome to the shell, an aide to ukraine's president bowler marizza lensky has denied keith was involved in the sabotaging of the north stream gas pipelines. the undersea lines which
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brought russian natural gas to germany, were blown up in september $22002.00. the new york times reported earlier signing unnamed u. s. officials. the u. s. intelligence indicates a pro ukrainian group carried out the attack. german media is also reporting that there is evidence pointing to possible ukrainian involvement. the german government is still investigating the incident, but russia says that the reports show a un lead international inquiry is needed. and let's cross straight over to our political correspondence. i'm young for more assignment, a joint investigation by 3 german media outlets has brought to life some of this new evidence. what exactly did they find out? right, i should say, 1st of all, these are unconfirmed reports, but they're by some of germany's most respected media organizations like the public broadcast, the a r d and the newspaper, the site. and what they've got is many concrete details about what they say
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happened with the nordstrom explosions. they say that prosecutors investigators have identified the boat that was used in the operation to blow out the pipelines, a yacht. the t t reported was rented from a firm in poland that apparently belonged to 2 ukrainian nationals. so that's one concrete link with ukraine. they say investigators have found that 6 people were on board and involved in the operation, including divers and medical personnel, and their nationality is around known because fight passports. we used to rent this yacht and then they go on with more details. but the location of this boat was attract, leaving raw stock in northern germany, and was subsequently located near a danish island in the baltic sea. and according to these german media reports,
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as i say, it is what they are at the moment. a western intelligence agency had already warned or suggested some months ago that a pro ukrainian group is it's described could be behind, could have been behind the explosions of the baltic stream pipelines. so quite a lot of detail which tends to sort of corroborate some of these claims, i suppose, have written any reactions to this and germany at this point. right, well, in germany, the federal public policy prosecutor has been investigating there since october last year. and it looks like the authorities here pretty much been caught on the hot by these media revelations this evening. because as early as so the saw as late as this afternoon rather than the german government was still saying that to, you know, the investigation had not reached any conclusions,
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had no results to show. and that's pretty much in line with what the swedish and danish governments have told the u. n. just a few days ago as well as the germans. they've all been carrying out their own investigations. and they say there's nothing to report yet will. it appears very much that's not true. i should just also say that there isn't any clear evidence of ukrainian government involvement. the president zalinski and kia says they've got absolutely nothing to do with it. but of course, if it does prove to be the case, it could really sent shock waves through, for instance, western german support for the war for the war effort in ukraine as well. and no indication of that at this point. now let's rewind quickly and, and take a look at the role that north stream and the north stream pipelines played in germany's relationship with russia in the lead up and the early stages of the war. briefly, if you can when the stream one was operating from 2011,
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bring in russian gas to germany, node stream to during the planning phase was much more controversial and it never went into operation. and that was because essentially pub bypassed, poland, and ukraine, undermining their interest. it was seen as doing and making germany in western europe much more dependent on russian gas. it took the russian invasion of ukraine . i think to force a rephrase a rethink here in berlin and the german government ultimately agreed not to put it into operation just shortly before it was finally blown up and effects on the ground as it were, were created. young. thank you so much. and let's dig deeper and bring in just in crump. he's a military veteran and ceo over the international intelligence and risk analysis consultancy sibling joins us from the u. k. mr. chrome good to see you again. now these new is claims. do they fit into the picture of what we know so far about the
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north stream explosion? and there are so a lot of theories during the rounds, it wasn't long ago. the ones respected journalist seymour hersh reduced what he views the details of exactly how the u. s. government did it with the involvement of norwegians, for example, the russians play the u. k. but she's failed the event for conducting in this latest number of, of theories, as we say, it is still in intelligence. information at the moment says source for us things consider, but it does seem as your correspond said, you're fairly detailed amount of information that's come out about how this may have been mounted. but it was always in some ways, the least likely explanation that a non state group of actors, reva smuggle, a very sizable con, to explosives, undetected and get that to the scene to target. this is incredibly important pipeline. so although it's been postulated for some time, it's one of the theories,
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it was always the hardest to understand how that could have come together. and it suddenly suggests a sizable amount of money and a very interesting network behind and opperation like this. you can imagine just driving a large amount explosive through germany in itself is something i think a germ population would be. am shocked to understand that if that was easy, so mr. a lot of questions raised for sure. this was one of the theories. i was always the hardest to see, you know, necessarily being done, but it was never impossible. and which way to see overseas, more details merge, and ukrainian president roland, whereas the landscape says keep with absolutely not involved. and there is actually no indication to prove the contrary. but the evidence can apparently be traced back to ukraine, who's there? do you think could have had an interest in blowing up the pipeline? yeah, i think if you look at the say, some of the covers, maybe it's just as ukrainian or russian nationals opposed to vladimir putin is what is being said. and again, you know, stress,
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this is just reporting at the moment. none of us know the full facts that we're going to work or what we're seeing, but there are obviously quite a lot of powerful interest. i think with, in russia, within ukraine, obviously many ukrainians on exactly in favor of love to me right now is war and happy to see things and show their national survival. i'm sure. and oversee some with him, russia as well. i mean, let's not forget that the oligarchs with a powerful figures in russia right up until just about a year ago, when many of them fled or forced effectively into exile with russian actions in ukraine, effectively paralyzing their business interests overseas. and lots of very wealthy, influential, and networks, people would have political, financial reasons, essentially, to help undermine putin's war effort. recover maybe some of what they had lost serving as both russians in the ukraine's you could, you could look out. i do believe it's unlike at this point and you creating government was involved before the incident in the, with an odd stream they had already. so i've been told,
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i think about some of the operations going on inside russia. you may remember the assassination of are do gonna, and other incident happened inside russia. i think the u. s. and tick, you are getting a bit concerned about because the spillover risk and the way you claim is potentially being betrayed as a result. and so understanding was ukrainian government was being careful at that time, not to do anything controversial. miss would very katie, you know, for within that scope. and so i find it hard to say that it was driven by them just in crow. many thanks, always, great speaking to you, a russian court has sentenced the founder of an opposition social media channel to 8 and a half years in prison. dmitri even off, was found guilty of spreading false information about russia's military in russia. anyone perceived to have discredited the russian army could already face a draconian prison sentence, and the parliament has recently given initial backing to expanding that law to
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cover fighters for the mercenary wagner group. anyone who criticizes russian soldiers in ukraine, whether they are fighting for the russian army or so called volunteer unit, could soon phase along prison sentence. a law punishing public defaming of the military has been in place for a year now. but that's likely to be expanded to include so called volunteers or mercenaries which look at blueberry, which is, who are these volunteers that are mentioned in the same breath as russian soldiers, super newsome. it's not clear, but you know who's i mean little and that worries me a lot lately about yourself. if the new amendments would cover private armies. if jenny precaution, the founder of the wagner, a mercenary group, has asked the russian parliament to add the term volunteers to the desperate
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natasha law. many of precautions, soldiers, army, a form of prisoners, he personally recruited. oh, we need your criminal talents. just with you, i myself served 10 years in prison before i became a russian hero held uncle rich and i have a few more talents now that helped me a lot in life. i emerging from i graduated louis, complain that since the war began, the russian parliament has passed a series of bells aimed at stifling descent. took in his book. it's not just about the wagner group of june. i think the idea behind the amendment is to broaden the scope of lower enforcement in general. well, you're welcome. any criticism of military special operations will be punished would be the punishment under the new bill would be draconian. up to 15
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years in a penal colony. vineyard from a legal point of view, this is simply absurd cur statements. even if it's just one sentence from a or single piece of information that is judged to be false. even though it's very likely to be correct on such statements or given huge prison sentences, we haven't seen anything like this since the 1951st are getting together. the new amendments have already been fast tracked, flew parliament. later this month. they are set to be approved by the upper house and signed into law by president putin. ukrainian, president lensky has ordered military commanders to send reinforcements to help troops defending the besieged eastern city of bolt. ukrainian authority say that only a few 1000 of the original, 70000 people living and wound remain. the battle for the eastern city is now the
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longest and bloodiest of the year long war. russia says seizing buck wound would be an important step towards capturing the industrial don bass region. western defense officials say the city has little strategic value. militarily, that victory, there would be symbolic to russia. in an interview with my colleague, claire richardson, the ukraine's former president pet reports jenko said the battle for buffalo had taken on a bigger meaning than the fight for the city itself. the bus quote is a symbol, and we have applied in, in baltimore for 9 months already. and i was in box more during this last year, more than dozens time to speak to support to supply the every paying for our forces. and i can tell you that the symbolic steps definitely has a great importance and not everybody should understand that this is the way how we
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can kick captured the ration of firms who will ration which were planned and publicly declared him february and march. ukraine has launched an investigation to find russian soldiers who apparently killed an unarmed ukrainian prisoner of war after a graphic footage emerged a short video circulating on social media appears to show a man and a ukrainian uniform finishing a cigarette and shouting glory to ukraine before being killed with several shots ukrainian army without providing further evidence says it believes the man is a 41 year old. who has been listed as missing near the embattled city of buffalo since february. and his nightly video address, president zalinski urged all ukrainians to echo. 2 the soldiers words, she wouldn't as you louis have you do. a video appeared today showing how the occupiers, brutally killed a soldier who bravely said to their face, glory to ukraine level. what i want us altogether in unity to respond to his words
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and glory to the hero, glory, to heroes, glory to ukraine, and we will find the killers. you may as made them of weebly for more on this i am now joined by wayne jordan. she's a lawyer and an expert on international human rights and criminal law. mr. jordan, welcome to the w. now the killing of prisoners of war is a clear violation of the geneva convention. this is not the 1st time we're hearing about these kinds of breaches on the russian side. is there a pattern? are there indications that this could be a systematic approach by russian fighters? good evening and thank you. well, yes, i think that's clear. the criminal plan or the russian military, i referred to it as a criminal plan because that's what the violations suggest. they suggest that russia is not just trying to occupy ukraine, but he's trying to actually coerced the saloon population into accepting that
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occupation into allowing russia to extinguish their identity. and so what we see here is across ukraine, across where its been occupied is a tax on civil infrastructure attacks on civilians themselves, which range from everything, from arbitrary detention to torture within detention to forcible displacement to the abduction of civilians. and in this case, where you just refer to the indiscriminate attacks on prisoners of war, the, this is a pattern, and this is a clamp. now, president, the landscape crane has vowed to quote, find the murderers, but the alleged killers are not seen clip. how can a crime like this be investigated and of course, prosecute it will this kind of crime is very difficult. it has to be said. i mean, it looks in many ways like an ordinary crime like an ordinary killing.
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but of course, in this instance, the ukrainian prosecution does not have access to the site and does not have access to the associates of the killers. so it is difficult, but it's not impossible. the 1st thing, of course, that needs to be done like the investigation of any crime is to get as close to the circumstances as is possible. so to find out who the unit was to find out what the circumstances were. which a place that unfortunate victim in that location and, and in that place. so these are the 1st steps. but the reality is until there's access to this unit, the men who did the killing associates of the men who did the killing. it's going to be very difficult to actually find out exactly who did the killing and also of
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course, bring them to justice at what are the chances that any member of the russian military will ever be convicted of these war crimes we're seeing that you say are systematic well, i think the chances are pretty good and i think ukraine has already demonstrated that with already putting certain risk russian prisons on, on, on trial and convicting them. so i think the chances are good, but it's a long term project. most, many of those who committed the crime have fled to fight to russia or are dead. what needs to be done at this point is to investigate those circumstances of all the crimes or the crimes which are really are compelling which need to be prioritized. and to essentially build cases over time billed cases against the direct perpetrators. those who do the killing themselves, but more importantly, or as importantly build cases against the commanders and the political organizes.
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and by that i mean the kremlin. and there are many people in and around ukraine working on that already today. international human rights and criminal law expert wayne joe dash, thank you for your time. thank you. and let's take a look now at some of the others news making headlines around the world today. thousands of protesters have rallied in the georgian capital tbilisi as a controversial new bill passed its 1st vote in parliament. a draft law is intended to crack down on quote, foreign agents. critics say the government backed bill represents an authoritarian shift in georgia. at least 14 people have been killed in an explosion at a 7 story commercial building in bangladesh. capital dhaka, dozens more have been injured. rescue efforts are ongoing. while the cause of the blast is not yet clear. and france, tens of thousands have joined
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a fresh wave of protest against president martineau microns prop proposed pension reforms. unions have vowed to bring the nation to a standstill over the plans, which would see the minimum retirement age raised from 60 to the $64.00. the government says the measures are needed, but polls show most french citizens oppose. the proposed changes in the early hours. final preparations are made for a day of disruption to make shift barricade set in place at a bus depot, just north of paris unions called on people to come out and force to protest against president manuel mc calls. planned to overhaul pensions. a controversial proposal that would see the age of retirement raised to $64.00. and they've done just that by lunchtime, thousands of people had taken to the streets in cities right across the country with one message. oh boy, i use this was on google. i don't want to work until i'm 6400 well enough already
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for the plumbers of it. for the moment there are only promises made and we don't know when it's going to end. oh, so it's better to fight now than to lose our gains. that's it. is only love it up, people likes allstate, people see around them that there are plenty of colleagues who don't even make it to the current legal retirement age. so how can we expect them to make it to 64, he gets was, will get unions hope by shutting down the country. the president might now start listening to them. demonstrators of targeted roads, public services, and key transport hubs for maximum impact. most train and metro services have also been cancelled and many schools closed. but despite all the disruption public opinion appears to be with those demonstrating why should i support them? because it's the right thing to do that. doing this for us. i have to work, but if i could, i would have demonstrated with them to savage. if i could, this is
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a potter. if a can bring a solution to this never ending pension problem than i'm rather in favor of movement. i was but there you go. over time, it's embarrassing for everyone don't dosage and opal to moment they've also to it's true that working up the age of 64 is pretty difficult. the french prime ministers warned that a nationwide standstill would primarily impact the most fragile in the country. but as the standoff grows, the stakes for president mccall and his flagship pension reforms continue to rise. teachers in iran have led demonstrations following a series of alleged school poisonings targeting young girls. there have been several 100 suspected cases involving more than a 100 schools since november, some of those affected needing hospital care. this video recently posted online appears to show parents, voicing their anger outside an education, ministry building and parents. officials say the girls are being deliberately
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targeted, possibly by hard line groups opposed to girls education in this cross right over to sarah bizarre, bon d marie curie fellow at the giga institute of middle east studies in berlin with bud monday. welcome. what do we know? so far about these poisonings? well, for our own country been federal cases the showing very hard to reaction the parents protesting outside the schools official denied medical reason. i like
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to just come out and do this on external rival government for creating such a situation. you know, before the action we know is very strong sense of panic and, and especially those with young students. but this means that is the possibility for carrying a new baby in your work. so a lot of panic and a lot of finger pointing who do you think could be behind before the next? was very hard to say. the history shows when another mentally denies something government,
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usually the wrong address was a direct initiative from inside and we don't know, but there are several thoughts. and some argue that i'm trying to, trying to distract attention from the real issues inside the government to try to distract attention from the physician outside of the country trying to. ringback allies themselves and argue that this is 60 days prices wanting to take revenge from the baby and young women a poor from authorizing their own. but, but there are several possible that we know this moment. and i think i strongly
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agree is that this could not be carried on unless the thing elements within the years yet, right? this had approved it therapy on the many thanks for your evaluation of this very complicated situation with us now for all the goals and highlights for much de $23.00 and the bonus lee got kick off is next. i'll be back with more newsome headlines at the top of the our help with
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