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ah ah ah ah, this is the w news live and from berlin, the united states releasing video of that black sea drone incident. the pentagon saying that this footage shows a russian fighter jet coming very close to an unmanned american drone that later crash. the kremlin is standing by a different story, also coming up poland,
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promising to deliver ukraine for of its mig 29 fighter jets within a matter of days, but will this moot inspire other native members to do the same? also coming up protestors in france, expressing their outrage at president macros decision to force through pension reform plans. crohn says he'll use special powers to push through unpopular changes without a vote in parliament. and the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu defending propose judicial reforms in his country that yahoo was here in berlin for talks with the german chancellor. these really leader crazy. israel's strong partnership with jer, ah, i'm brick golf is good to have you with us. the u. s. defense department has
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released footage that it says shows a russian aircraft intercepting a u. s spine joint earlier this week over the black sea. now, according to the pentagon, this video shows a russian issue 27 fighter jet, approaching the drone and dumping fuel over it as the aircraft passes by in close proximity without appearing to cause any damage to the u. s. jerome. but washington says, the jet did collide with the drones propeller that you see there on a 2nd pass that pass, which is shown here. the actual collision is not visible in this video, although damage to the propeller can be seen later after the picture is reestablished. i'm going to pulling out leon collins. he is a retired colonel who served in the u. s. army for 27 years. he's also the founding director of the modern war institute at west point. he's co author of understanding
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urban warfare, colonel is going to have you on the program. so is this a case of seeing is believing? we've now seen the footage of what happened to this drone has the volatility of the situation. has that changed because of the video? no, i don't think it's changed because of the video, and it was pretty credible when begin with when you reported that it was struck by a russian aircraft. i don't think it's changed the volatility of the situation at all. on wednesday, pentagon spokesperson ned prize soup. i'm assuming already seen this footage, he called the incident probably unintentional. what's your take on that? i mean it, does it look like this was an accident? yeah, me dumping a few on a drone was obviously that was an intentional. the striking, the propeller that might have been unintentional, but nevertheless, russia, russian planes were attempting to get as close as possible to the aircraft. and if they had it that was, you know, it may not have been intentional,
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but that ultimately the outcome. and if it wasn't intentional, to show you really how incompetent the russian russian pilots are because they could have taken themselves down if they crashing the aircraft a more forcefully in what about this drone that crashed into the black sea washington saying that it wiped all the data from the aircraft, russia says it wants to salvage the wreckage. i mean, would it gain anything, even if it did find any parts of the stroke? no, it's pretty no procedures whether it's an aircraft, a ship or just personal communications on the ground and army units. you know, one of the things they do is 0, so they can't get any encryption if any of that hardware in there that, that can be any value to the ration. so even if they're able to go down for 5000 feet, how deep the black sea is to retrieve parts of this aircraft, they're, they're not gonna be able to get anything of any value out of that. you know, there's been concern or week of the situation quickly escalating and,
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and having an impact on the actual award eastern ukraine. what's been your take on how washington and moscow, how they've tried to make sure that there is no escalation. first of all, i mean this is one of the reasons we have unmanned aircraft, right? so it's not putting pilots at risk and causing an unnecessary or undesirable escalation by either side, right? trying to go and escalate because you lost a service member. but in this case, right, the, the blip side of that is that allows russia to be more aggressive than they might have otherwise been. it had been unmanned aircraft. i think one of the questions we have to ask ourselves is why is right even bothering going out and, you know, doing aggressive action in international airspace when they have a battle in back move that the russian air force should be supporting in the simple fact is rushes air force isn't really capable of supporting the war effort, so they, they have nothing better to do than harass international airspace. her liam collins is always we appreciate your time in your analysis. thank you. and you will
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poll the said to become the 1st nato member to supply fighter jets to you. great. and it will deliver at least 4 fully operational soviet era make 20 nines in the next coming days. president, due to saying that additional aircraft will also be on the way after a maintenance check. you create is repeatedly urged western partners that it needs warplanes to fight back against russia's invasion effectively. well, after poems announcement, danish prime minister, mentor frederickson, hinted that other nato allies might soon follow suit. i say yes, you're holding by the jets have long been on the ukrainians, wishlist, and it is something we're discussing in the group of allied nations. so yes, it is something we're discussing with our allies. and it is something that the group of allies is considering of it. i will not get into any further details, but it is a big push from ukraine. i want to pull in their correspondence now and need a reporter,
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terry sholtes. he's good to see you. this is an interesting development. we've got polen charging ahead here saying him just a couple of days. we're going to have for fighter jets for you. we know next door here in germany, they've said absolutely not. as there been reaction within nato to this or washington along with germany maintains the line that absolutely not. and you, you heard denmark there say it's being discussed, but we haven't heard any other countries really charged to the front like poland has. slovakia may be the closest to agreeing to send some of its megs. now you remember brent that we were sort of at this stage before months ago with poland being very willing to send its fleet of megs, in fact, the whole fleet at that time to ukraine. but it wanted to send them through ramstein air base and thereby make it sort of a u. s. transfer. and then it fell apart. so this isn't entirely unexpected that it comes back to poland sending mig, but we didn't,
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we certainly didn't know to expect it. this week or today, i mean, what did you make there? teary of if hearing of denmark say that more shipments could be on the way. i mean, it's not the 1st country i think that people would expect to hear making an announcement concerning fighter jets. well it's, she didn't make an announcement concerning fighter jets. she said it's being discussed and being discussed in a group of countries that may have fighter jets is a long way from sending them. i mean, we've already seen the u. k. training pilots. the u. s. is that it would train pilots and, and so getting some people ready to possibly fly planes at some point is a long way from saying we're going to give you those planes. and, you know, many nato allies feel that this is not the right move. germany included, you know, we've talked many times about cindy, what is to ukraine when we were talking about battle takes, for example, there was also this resistance to that. now those tanks are, you know, there they are in the country that so don't deal. are we going to see the same
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development when it comes to fighter jets or ukraine? certainly hope so, and that's why it keeps asking for things have been told it's not going to get because if it had stopped asking when it was initially told no tanks, you wouldn't see tanks on their way to ukraine right now. so i think that now with poland breaking this sort of blockade, which is you know, to some extent and emotional a psychological block on sending this kind of weapons. you may well see other countries, like i said, slovakia has been talking about it and finish prime minister son martin. not even yet. of course, the leader of a country inside the nato alliance got in a bit of hot water last week when she was in ukraine. and she said finland may think about sending fighter jets that did not go down well with her on government. who said that, that's news to them. i mean, i'm wondering if there's some psychology here that we should be picking up on the fact that poland is making this announcements and, you know, they, they did promise about a year ago to do what they say they're going to do now. and within a couple of days,
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but the fact that they're pushing forward and right now going it alone. does that reveal? maybe divisions within native that have not been made public? well, it's more than psychology, it's geography. it's not only the polls that say give you crane everything it needs the baltic states regularly say whatever ukraine asks for whatever we can provide. let's send it now. and the divide between nato is not just political. it is geo political. if you're a country with a border with russia, a border with ukraine, a border with beller risks. you very much feel that unless we give you crane everything, it needs to stop russia. we're next. so these countries would say to those allies who wor, no, this might be an escalation, the escalation, they say would be letting russia, when and ukraine w series with valuable analysis tonight. terry, as always, thank you. thank you. we're now to french, the french government plans to bypass a parliamentary vote over some very unpopular pension reforms which would raise the
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retirement age of the country from $62.00 to $64.00. just a few minutes before the vote was due to take place. as president macaroni government invoke the special constitutional power to force, the reforms through the reforms have been met with widespread opposition, triggering massive protests and strikes all across france. movies expecting the trigger. a quick new confidence motion in the government are 8 am to now by our correspondence lisa, the we in paris. lisa, let me just ask you. micron, he announced that he will resort to using what's on his article. 49.3 to push these pension reforms through without a parliamentary vote. what is his article? i mean, is it unusual that he's using it? it is in a way, unusually his, his lot. you know, he's not business as usual, but it has been used before. since the beginning of the 5th republic in the 19
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fifties and governments have used it about 19 times. but what is unusual about it is that he's using it for this special form. actually, you know, this is the flagship reform he's been running for, you know, to, to be reelected last year with. and he was saying, this is really, i want to put in place this form the pension form is what france needs. i want to show that i can perform this country and, and show that i'm a strong statesman. he a statesman here in france and also on an international level. now i'm using this special constitutional power means that he felt that he had not the power to convince enough parliamentarians to bait alone with his group. and so he needed to push the reform 3. yeah, and he obviously thinks he's on the right side of history by standing by where he bought the country to go. is there any one in government and politics? you could stop a mil. well,
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what happens when this special root is triggered is really that the reform will go better through unless there is a vote of no confidence at the different parliamentarians. the groups have 24 hours to bring in such a vote of confidence. so until tomorrow, for position parties had already announced that they would be safe. and we understand that these rates of no confidence should be voted on next monday, probably, or starting next monday. and, and the only way to stop the pension reform now is really to bring down the government. now, when you look at the numbers in my call has with his party and ally parties about 250 seats in the parliament. and majority is a 287, and the conservative party has 60 seats. and you know, if you add 250 with 60, you get to 310. and the conservatives have already said that they would not vote
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against the government. so it seems a bit unlikely that this will bring down the government, although some commentators are still looking at the numbers and saying, you know, we can't be sure that everybody waits what he's expected to date falls. so as it looks now though, it looks like this, increase of the retirement age is going to to happen. explain to our viewers, lisa, why the french are so enraged by this, i mean from 62 to 64, to maybe here in germany or in the united states. that doesn't seem like such an unreasonable increase, but in france, it apparently does. well, the 1st of all is the minimum retirement age, the average time and age is not $62.00 currently, it's about $63.00 and the, the threshold where you get, in any case, a full pension is 67. so when you look at a european comparison, france is actually in the middle field, and you know, people are so opposed to this reform because they feel it's not just about pensions
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. it's really about their social system. france has a pure pay as you go system. so he only, you know, the car workers pay for current pensioners, but there very few people who actually have private pension funds. so this is when the heart of, you know, what they feel will make sure that they can have a decent life later on. and they feel that the government is really attacking the heart of their so social security system, especially as you know, there was a report that was mandated by the government by an expert committee. and they had to look into the pension system. and there comes that they are concluded, was that actually when you look at the figures, there will be a slight deficit in the future in the pension system, but it's not going to be dramatic. so if you want to place a reform or not, that will be a political decision. and that's why many people here fear, you know, the government. yeah. they're saying we need as a form, but actually do we really need it? or is it about something else is about, you know, a justice, a question of justice,
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really. they feel that the governor wants to take away money from the rich and give it to it from the pool of the give it to the rich. and that's what they against the w lease that we with the lease tonight from parish lease, as always, thank are the cyclic. now some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. iranian active is separate day, kaleon has been detained again, just hours after she walked free from prison without wearing a headscarf enchanting slogans against these wyoming republic. leon has spent years in prison after reporting on union protests and has become a strong voice against the abuses. she says female prisoners are subjected to in iran. lawyers for the senegalese opposition leader osman sancho have welcomed a postponement of his trial for defamation. authorities forcibly removed sancho from his vehicle and escorted him to appear before the court. he dismisses the
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charges as politically motivated. his supporters clashed with police in the capitol icon to the vows of the people to take into the streets in greece, to express their anger over at last month's train disasters that killed 50 southern people unions and also called for a 24 hour general strike. leaving fairies, imports, flights, grounded in trains can't hear to germany, chance r o s. sholtes has voiced concern over israel's planned reforms to its judiciary. he made the comments after a meeting with israel's prime minister, benjamin at yahoo! here in berlin to date critic say, the plans that would allow the israeli parliament to overturn supreme court rulings . netanyahu and shoulds started their day in berlin at memorial for the holocaust. check 17 at berlin. screen of our station from hath thousands of jews was sent to extermination camps right up until the end of the 2nd world war. the to lead has paid their respects. benjamin netanyahu said that although gemini and the world had
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changed, juice was still being threatened. we have learned that the jewish people must have the capacity to defend ourselves by ourselves, against any threat. but we also welcome the friendship of those who share our concern, our values, iran's nuclear program was on the agenda, the talks at the chancery, but also the controversial plans to reform israel's judiciary. at symbol carter severe as a partner in democratic values and a close friend of israel, we are following this debate very closely and i will not hide this fact with great concern when i think we agreed that the independence of the judiciary is a pillar of democracy. oh, protest is gathered in central berlin to demonstrate against netanyahu's visit. he rejected the criticism of his policies in israel as though this is
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a brick with democracy is not true. israel was, is, will remain a liberal democracy, not different, and as strong as vibrant as it was before. and as europe is to do, we are not going to deviate from that one bit. netanyahu had to cut his visit to berlin short because of the ongoing protests in israel when he believes she political correspondent in a honda she has more now on israel's plans to reform venture this year. well that was of course, one of those moments in that press conference. i attended that as well. a many observers have been waiting for will have choices exact words eagerly as they were questing, which was what he used to express concern and criticism of israel's judicial reform . because that has, of course, all suspected debate here in japanese. so we'll have shots made a reference to israel's president, isaac had soc,
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who has put forward to compromise proposal, which did on the i was government has rejected. and so it was careful not to come across as to reprimanding, but he did say that he still hopes that the last one has not been spoken on the issue. that's as far as he was prepared to go, essentially edging it on out to approach the critics of his reform again using a honda reporting there in israel today was another day of protests against the government's controversial judicial reform plans. hundreds of people demonstrated in several areas in the coastal city of tel aviv, in what pro protesters called a day of resistance. the marchers blocked roads and there were some scuffles with beliefs. prime minister abridgment at yahoo is right. when government wants to fast track the controversial reforms by the end of the month, critics say the move would destroy israel system of democratic checks and balances . i'm going to go down to tel aviv corresponded rebecca readers. she is standing by
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rebecca another day approaches. what's happening, i can see were you born or what's happening? i'm showing you can hear what's happening here. brand. we're in the middle of what is becoming the end of today, protest or it's day of disruption. but these protests have been happening all day long, and they've been culminated in a tour of the city. and now we've gone past the american embassy. these protests isn't trying to attract internet international attention to the apply. they say that democracy is being taken away from them and then they're gonna do anything that they can. this is why they calling a taunts march now and then like this one had been happening all across the country . of course, the biggest one happening here in tel aviv, but organize it say at 150 different spots across the country today, people have been making their voices heard us. some arrests were made earlier in the day and there were some scuffles. as you mentioned in the lead in there,
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but largely these protests had been pay so and they are now in their 11th week. people say they're going to keep coming out until they have their voices heard. yeah, and i understand israel's from president isaac, your target, offered a compromise proposal, but the government rejected that. why is that? that's right. he's been working on a proposal. i that had to be working on a proposal, a compromise, if you will, to try and get both sides closer together. so i just that to come to just that a compromise, but maybe netanyahu prime minister benjamin netanyahu flatly refused to come to the party on that one. but that's august saying that hopefully it will be the beginning of dialogue. he's trying to do everything that he can to try and stop saying like this one, you know, he's trying to get the country to come together. benjamin netanyahu saying that the compromised plan was a complete waste. it was a wasted opportunity. that hurts on still trying to get both sides to come together
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. we are seeing that the opposition are coming around to negotiations. they are interested in trying to come to some kind of a negotiated compromise, but there is still a very long way to go. brand people here very angry and people on the other side, people a in government in the very strong they were going to keep following these guys. uh huh. because they are moving quite fast, but definitely both sides still very far apart. at this point it looks like they're at an impasse. i mean the, the turmoil, the, you know, that you're reporting on looks like it's going to continue you certainly and the people that i've been speaking to here tonight, brent the people that i'm now trying to chase up the street. but these people have been saying that they are not going to stop that they, that it doesn't matter. even if the everyone is a little bit pessimistic, they think that these are, these bills are going to pass. i think that they are going to lose the battle,
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but that they say that they will continue to fight. now we saw president issac heard talk saying the country could be on his way to a civil war. now i've heard that people on both sides of that debate here tonight saying some people saying yes, we are on the way to have a war. other people sanctemore. we don't think it's going to go that far. but definitely they are going to continue coming out to protest brand until they feel that their democracy being taken away and they want to do everything they can to stuff that did abuse rebecca rivers in tel aviv tonight. rebecca, thank you. shares in credit suisse bounced back on thursday after the bank announced that it is borrowing up to 50000000000 euros from switzerland central bank. the company says that the movers intended to stop it running out of acquitted the in the future. the lenders and shear price was almost a 3rd of its value a day earlier after its bigger shareholders all the national bank said that it would not be investing in the company any more. he was the topic of today in all major newspapers. credit suisse was the 1st big global bank to take it off to the
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collapse of silicon valley bank and signature bank in the us weakened by scandals. the institution had already lost much of its value in the last year. this week when so do national bank said it wouldn't provide more capital than his current 10 percent stake credit to a stock tanked. to avert the risk of a collapse. the swiss national bank quickly opened the $54000000000.00 lifeline to ensure credit suisse liquidity and com. the markets. injecting some liquidity is the usual thing that's been done. and my guess is that if he, if they can turn around the business model and they should be fine in the future, in a further attempt to restore confidence in the banking system. swiss authorities said that credit suisse met all the requirements of systemically important banks. the current measures proved effective to secure the country his 2nd largest bank. yet the rents of this week put a large dent in switzerland reputation. so people have put their money into
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switzerland in large amounts in the private banking and wealth management spaces and asset management. in large part because system has this idea of stability and conservative investment of your assets and capital preservation. and that's the kind of clients that sir swiss banks of attracted, that'll not put de crestwood credits with credit suisse with an incalculable damage to switzerland's reputation as a financial center. while investors looked appeased, the risk for other banks still lingers. a plunging deposit, her confidence and run on the bank could still send any lenders spiraling towards collapse. any bank is, is, is, has it has a liquidity problem because they lend long and, and borrow short. so again, if for some reason, deposit us all get together and take the money out and coordinate on that, that's the key thing coordination. then any bank that has engaged in any
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kind of business risk to make some money will be in trouble. started by the recent crisis bikes might now choose a more conservative strategy, especially in a climate of high interest rates. that could translate into a cautious approach to lending and a drag on economic growth. your g d w. news. our talk show to the point is up next i will be back at the top of the hour with more world news followed by today to see that ah, with
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