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the 7 percent the platform with, you know, or this channel, we are not afraid to capture and delicate the top. because population is growing and young people clearly have the solutions. the future belongs to the 77 percent every weekend on d. w with this is deal of the news africa coming up on the program. the record, britain storm, that's devastated south and africa. hundreds die across the region of the superpowers, like freddy. sure it gets loud and landslides allow
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e barriers to victims of the giant storm. it's precedents needs a country in morning. i am personally so devastated. sometimes when you just passed by these minute cascades, you cannot help but shed tears because loved ones, one whole family completely wiped out. also ahead after 2 years of civil war and if you have yes t gray region, we look at the who talent is carried out by armed forces and if justice will ever be saved. ah, i am eddie micah junior. welcome to the program. it was one of the world's strongest ever storms that has brought parts of south africa to its knees. more than 400 people unknown to have died after sykes and freddy tore across the region
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. bringing with it heavy rain stud triggered flats and lance lights. most of those killed way in malawi, where authorities now fees a desperate battle to get aid and supplies to the thousands displaced allow he's president, last roster. clara has called on the international community to help steve off an impending humanitarian crisis in a country. now, united in grief, bucket by bucket, they bury the dead funerals for the victims of landslides triggered by days of heavy rain. ah, it's an emotionally charged and a painstaking battle against the elements. but they keep going. ah, this is
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a country in mass morning. hundreds have lost their lives, him in the wake of cycling, freddy and in bland tyre, one of the worst affected areas. mo coffins are lined up under a rain soaked tent malawi is president joining the queue of people paying their respects you cannot help but shed tears because loved ones, one hold family completely wiped out. and so many others that have been touch, you feel sad that we are at the receiving end of climate changes that you know, you feel helpless. and that sense of helplessness is easy to understand when you see the live shattered by this giant storm. like so many now this family
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a trying to recover what they can from the wreckage of their home. but say they had little time to save their possessions in the losing of visibly. i would, i had no idea as to what impact a storm would have to do. you know, to william head will rule. i just realised that there was a heavy downpour when the house here and on the other side collapsed to douglas. was it a girl who said who was with douglas? so i was shocked. you know, but really i was confused and didn't know what was happening. them onto them, journals of the 10s of thousands now displaced. some have ended up in crisis centers like this one set up in a school. many of those here were women and children in desperate need of food and water. but supplies are running short and getting more aid through is proving difficult, with many roads and bridges now destroyed. adding to a growing humanitarian crisis in a country already struggling with
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a collar outbreak. and as the emergency response now turns into a recovery mission. with more bodies than survivors being pulled from the mud and debris, the death toll and lasting impact of this national tragedy is only expected to become even greater. oh, let's get more this from pools a little more for king. he is senior forecaster in disaster risk reduction from the south african web, our service. hello sir. cycling. freddy made land for twice or 3 times and lingered on for so long. what makes it unique from previous other storms? it made a false over monica in wasn't a big, big tool was a big tenant, which is the ocean between what a gasket and wasn't big. and after that, it moved to finally to was a big again. and so that's where it died down just so far my last week. so that was
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a quote. it had to do with the length of it but also is existing. i think it turned around a lot. so other cycles had it had one truck and just maybe 110. but this one it so many tens saw that another input to know what that might have been broken. ok, i mean if i got you correctly, you're saying cycle of freddy s the longest to have are cycling in recorded history? is that right? most likely that is correct. ok. now extreme where the events are quite common in malawi, a neighboring countries. why do they keep happening? well, they were to happen every way they did. the whole difference is how prepared people are. i did hear one of the officials in malawi indicating that it's because of the fact that they are having difficulty to speak with the people on
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time. but as of the forecast, we had issues to focus on time. is there anything unique about the region that makes extreme with our events quite common? there? number one, it would be that was a big is actually a flat country. so these storms and actually moving with ease over and was on peak. that is perhaps when i lose it as a move, for example, posing, but most of this talk to dixie died out because then you have a lot of friction with high mountains and all that. you don't have that it wasn't big. so besides the fact that the ocean is all, or sometimes it's a normally warm. so we also have the issue of their fees. i don't want to be which make the systems to actually have relatively free movement and therefore causing a lot of buy a. but at the same time, even the governments themselves, if you compare mozambique and my we, i think it was
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a better plan to respond to the storm this time around that that sounds about right now scientists say he one cause climate change has worsened cycle and activity making them more intense and more frequent. so should we expect more storms like friday? the simple answer. or who should they see? the relatively simple answer is to say, yes, we can expect the storms to be one more extreme in terms of frequency or so in terms of the intensity. so that's what we can expect you to remember even is that we had a v that they actually had to international headlines so, so indeed it's not on this other figure. but many other countries i having these extreme conditions. so we can expect more such even beyond their topical seconds or that sound. so i don't think anyone is looking forward to it. know exactly what can
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come out of such extreme weather events. but that's where people like you come in. how can weather forecasters like you help countries better prepare for such extreme weather events. we as weatherford has to work together for example. so that's going to the same issue. so i have the forecast to the all countries in the south africa nadisa. so then african development community. so cedric, we, it's really easy to focus for all those countries and we collaborate. we focused us together and there's also to take those messages forward. but also they have to make their own intense, localized analysis and communicate to the public. unfortunately, from time to time, we have the incidents where is difficult to has or this. we need the message to people on type those areas where according to these poor governments have to pull what really had to suddenly make it possible that all messages that are coming from
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the weather and many other events actually cheaper. ok, who is the lead? so i'm of working with the south african weather service. thank you. now she already had neighbor in was on because also among the countries impacted by cycling . freddy with more than 50 that's reported so far. while any loss of life is a tragedy. that tool is much lower than in 2019. when psycho only di claimed hundreds of lives in the country and left millions in need of humanitarian assistance in the 4 years since then was on the has put in place measures to help it be better prepared for extreme weather events. so they paid off maritime out as the united nations residence coordinator in was on big mozambique has taken the decision that it absolutely needs to be resilient. mozambique is a 3rd most exposed pathway to climate, the climatic disasters,
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and to climate change. and so starting from a, the head of state, the head of state is the african union champion for a disaster risk reduction. and the country has invested a lot in technology in a narlija and has actually by now this time before before cycle. and freddy very sophisticated satellite imagery extremely accurate and the very close collaboration between the methodological center and the civil protection. so they could with extreme accuracy go to the communities that were about to be hit and have a lot of extensive information to them so that they had to evacuate and accommodations centers were created and authorities deployed themselves at minister level
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ministers when an under, when the cycle on in the same way as the population, but that caused also a very big commitment. and the very big mobility station this has happened is happening with a lot of collaboration. also with the international community, the united nations and other what more can other countries learn from was m b and what more can they do even beyond what was on because done to limit the damage caused by such natural disasters. so certainly investing in prepared nasa forecasting and in alerting the populations certainly training the population . so mozambique is also investing in resilient infrastructure and, but this is something that demands a lot of time and a lot of investments. so this is a must do for every country. this is what your p and countries are also doing. and
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this is what requires a global solidarity to support countries like mozambique and many other countries that are exposed to natural disasters. in this way, is there enough money in store in the u. n. to support such countries in dealing with such disasters? or is it a case of there's so much happening in the world, there's not enough money available. we have used all the stocks that we have here to provide an immediate response. we are united nations as well as the whole humanitarian community, but also civil society, the institutions here we have provided a lot of supply b. so for b, a water purification tablets, food plastic sheeting to the population, but it is not enough that is a huge need for support. and there is
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a huge need for resources also because at the same time was i'm big is experiencing a color outbreak. and when you have floods, the color outbreaks can only amplify. so we need a lot of solidity to help the country that is already doing it through the vaccination campaign. yes, because for you, and if, sorry to cut you the u. n. is doing enough, and is it been running out? well school to help come from was them because a huge agricultural pension, mozambique can become the bread, bread basket for at, for a large part of our, for many, many countries in the world. many, many countries in africa, i think there is a common interest in supporting mozambique in having a resilience agriculture. it is in the interest of the whole world to support the mozambique and farmers lost all their harvest now with this cycle. and they will
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not have a crop until next year this time. ok, so it is very, it is a common and joint interest and benefit. ok. well carl, at united nations residence coordinator was on be thank you very much for your insights. you're welcome. ah, you are a secretary of state antony blanking, visit that he tapia earlier this week of the year's off strained relations caused by the conflict within the country. lincoln met with his if you can count about the mecca mclennan in odessa barber. a trip is part of a push by washington to support peace efforts in the country after 2 years of civil war in the t gray region, usa khatri law that the 2 parties for the up he's efforts to sation of hostilities agreement is a major achievement. and step forward saving lives, changing lives. the guns are so as the fighting has stopped,
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human rights violations have declined. humanitarian assistance is flowing and finally, reaching nearly all communities and need services are being restored in the t gray region. the t feel f as a, sorry, arity and, and other non federal forces are departing. prime minister abbey and the philippine federal government entry grant regional leaders should be commended for reaching this agreement and for the significant progress in delivering on their commitments . now this comes, i made report of a large scale massacre in t grey. just days before the peace deal was signed last november. witnesses see more than 300 people were massacred in villages around the town of ottawa in t grey. the killings were in a parent's retaliation for e battlefield defeat, inflicted by the t gray liberation front on our retreat and forces who were fighting on the side of it. you can government troops are right groups of accuse a retreat and soldiers of frequent mass killings. systematic rape and sexual
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slavery during the good old 2 year war did have you gained access to the region to hear from survivors? a warning you may find the following, report upsetting aberdeen had hagel survived a massacre where more than 300 villages were killed? it happened just days before a deal was signed ending the warranty gray, one. she had heard rumors of people being killed. so she and her family went into hiding near her house and cast the animal anchored car under the when the cattle started making noises. my son and husband left for the house to see what was happening when katy and so i then a soldier came in and killed them both. i love the, i think the one she heard shots being fired. it wasn't every tree and soldiers. she says, here's where he shot the door. maybe inside her hut, she found
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a bloodbath. her husband 70 year old betty, you are by shot dead on the floor. holding his cross and i his head. he had been a priest. unit at mansfield, my daughter, your father is dead. now we carried him into the living room but no one there. we found my son over the home and also dead him ideally we were shot ready now. yeah, we covered them and cried. her 28 year old son, good day, betty, who had been planning to marry soon after it had gone and her daughter were too scared of the soldiers were occupying the village. they stayed in the house with bodies for 4 days, house and whatnot. then i went to church to see if i could bury them there, but a high ranking, retrain psychologist said no, he said, it was us who attacked them. i told him we didn't know when she buried her husband and son in her backyard. after 2 months they were finally moved to the church
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graveyard. since then, after, had huggles hasn't slept well, she's overcome with grief. what did we see? grands do? they must be held accountable. it was civilians they killed. they killed the people instead of fighting the soldiers. according to the administration of the town of the soldiers slaughtered more than 300 people in various villages, over the course of just one week. witnesses, se every tree and forces took revenge on civilians after suffering at their feet on the battlefield. at cedar a by a social worker recorded 90. 1 people who were killed in the village of mariam chevy. 2 over 3 days like a north hill and a half a live if i had of the 91 victims at 12 for women. i for the 10 were religious leaders. when we looked at the ages, they were from 2 years to 92 years old. when they killed toddlers, little girls,
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entire families. often the soldiers tied their victims hands before executing them, something in one case both parents were murdered in front of their 5 children. miss ad goes the ad for the la. they killed the mother named t k and mutilated her breasts with a knife. after they killed her, they put the baby on top of her a coffee. i'm of your mamma. these findings are a testament to the gruesome violence that happened here of the household. it's either a by hopes that her records will one day help justice to be served. for some more analysis are now joined by adam cassie arbor, senior advisor for constitution on peace. jordan are the international institute for democracy and electrolyte systems in the hague than netherlands. hello, are them? is there any chance at all about victims or the conflict war gets justice that thank you again for, for having me. there. there is certainly a political understanding that, that a violence that's was can,
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that's happened in connection with the civil war. but also the environment that has happened before the civil war started, that justice is necessary to address the violence then. now in terms of how to go about it, the kind of justice, all of that is still is still very open. and of course, there are also questions around the intention of the stakeholders and not just a government, but also the charge of the leadership front. because violence has been committed on all sides. and so there are questions around in taishan and also questions around the capacity to, to deliver even if there is that is willing, i mean, you mentioned violence has been committed to on all sides. and from all sides, every tree and soldiers who are aligned to the 2 governments during the war, also accused of horrific acts of violence. so could they really face justice?
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that is very complicated because it's you as an independent country and any process that happens within it would very likely be restrictive to, to, to your opinions to they took and government and the to go to go on leadership. and so it kind of represents a unique and very difficult situation. and if there is to be accountability against every theory and every 3 years that are responsible for atrocities that would have to be more international, that it would not be possible for the to open government alone to impose any, any sanctions. and so, and, and international. it's obviously very difficult, very complicated process and so unfortunately i suspect it's going to be a lot more difficult to hold them accountable at this stage. that will clearly be a big challenge to the people that are seeking justice, talking about, you know,
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opening it up to an international se committee, maybe to try to seek justice. ethiopia is pushing for a local legal process. it has objected to un commission of inquiry, but why not allow an independent body to help seek justice? wouldn't that be the best deal? once a year, you're right in international, the united nations humorous council has set up a committee investigating atrocities connected with the civil war. now the, the german government obviously has been against it, partly because the committee was set up at a moment where the war was still raging. and so there was a sense that the counselor was being used by, by and friendly countries to, to push it agenda in relation to the war. and so there is that, that there's a, there's a baggage that comes with it. and secondly, the mandate of the commission is restricted to the civil war. and what if you open government now is proposing again, as i said initially,
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their intentions and capacity, you have questions around those. but the intention is to look beyond not just, not just the civil war, but it be owned to include issues of justice that i've been, that i've been advising in the past decade or, or to. and of course, more fundamentally, the cuban government. things that just, this is a matter of sobering, over unity for the country and therefore it's what it wants to have control. how feasible is that. i mean, usa, secretary of state antony blinking, visited it. yeah. just recently. and what will the us role in all of this help to achieve was so you know that the situation is very complicated. the country is still in transition. very delicate, very fragile. and so questions around just is obviously have implications closer to 2 questions around it,
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piece and democracy and all of that. so internally, because willingness to, to proceed with this, things would depend on the power dynamics and the international community, naturally. because if it's leverage over the economy, because if it's control over the world bank and other other big budgets and diplomatic support, the trip and government, they have some leverage in guiding the approach that they took and government tax. but overall, the, the primary responsibility remains with, if you open government, but the international pressure can certainly ship to the measures that they took and government tax. but because the country still in transition and because of the situation, you know, as, as, as big as the, was the civil war is essentially part of the dynamics, part of the complexity that the country faces. and so we have to see how productively the international community, particularly the west, can,
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can engage. but the primary responsibility would depend on the top and government. and in that incentive depends on the ongoing political dynamics within the country . okay, i don't coffee, i bet with international institute for democracy on electoral assistance in the hague, netherlands. thank you. ah, that's it for now, from all of our stories, you can visit us on d, w dot com slash africa. or you can go to our facebook and twitter pages. thanks for your time. i've been out with
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