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ah, i'm so gale. welcome to the program. nato secretary general installed and berg is about to issue his annual report. it will detail alliances, key decisions with regard to the war in ukraine, a related expenditures for nato allies. it scheduled to begin very shortly, and as soon as it does begin, we'll cross that life to brussels 1st though will that will go to our, our, that gives us that time to have a quick word with our brussels, a bureau chief, alexandra fall novel, who is that at nato headquarters a welcome, alexandra. so what are we expecting to here? very shortly. well, i would say that the general secretary journals told mark is expected to speak 1st

and foremost about russia's war in ukraine and the consequences of this war and how it has impacted nato. and we can expect him to stress that native today. it's much more relevant and stronger that it was before. he will certainly speak about nato support for ukraine. the alliance has train, trained tens of thousands of ukrainian soldiers and nato allies half provide you, provided ukraine worth around 120000000000 the u. s. dollars in weapons, but also in humanitarian and financial aid. and of course, because today, nato sees russia as the most significant and direct threat to the security of the alliance. he will also speak about nato's posture on its eastern flank. nato has doubled its true there. they have established 4 more

battle grants on its eastern flank, and that is, of course, a front and center of what we can expect from start back today. right. and others are well versed as well as that, of course, that nato looks set to expand from its present 30, provided that turkish objections i can be overcome. what will the, the likelihood mission of finland and sweden a mean for the alliance? well, i think that both countries will be huge assets to the alliance lead stake, finland, for instance. we know that the turkish president has said that he is dropping his country's objections to finland's membership in the alliance. finland is a very democratic wealthy country with a strong military ad. there are a conscription base reserves total $900000.00 troops or they have the largest

and the best equipped artillery in western europe. so having finland were been, nato is going to be good for the lions and for finland as well. for sweden's, sweden that seems to have to wait a bit longer for turkeys. what if occasion of its nato membership, it is not a problem to wait a few weeks or months, but of course, because they applied for a membership together with finland because it makes sense to have them both sir, in the alliance or to make sure that any security gaps in the baltic, c region for instance are closed then it would make sense to have them both in the lions and that's why the longer the process take said the more difficult it is going to be for sweden. it is a ironic is it, is it not that nato expansion was one of a pretext of mr. brewton. i used to launch his war in ukraine. so matters led to

a potential expansion by 2 and also prompted nato countries to increase their defense spending. where the gaps seemed seen to be at the moment. well, even though some members of the alliance, a half began to increase their spending is because all of them see the need and the urgency to do so. we have to say the and that is going to be revealed in the annual report. only 7 of them really lift up to their promise to that pledge to spend 2 percent of g d, p on defense as spending. so it is a way to go and say, even despite of the fact we now have a discussion that to those 2 percent should be just a floor, not a ceiling. so we can expect a member states of the alliance to discuss that further on. because even though

it's difficult, probably to reach the 2 percent or more, they all know understand how important it is to invest in their own territorial defense. so we're just saying that the secretary, i don't know, adult about either entering the room. we don't know if he's going to get an, an intro a 1st or if he's got to go and speak straight right now, he's going to the podium. so alexander will come back to you very shortly. let's hear from the nato secretary general. yes. good afternoon. today i'm presenting my annual report for 2022. her. this support some so the main. okay. activity. so our lines are in the last year 2022. i was

a pivotal year for security originals. illegal war against ukraine is now entering . it's a 2nd year. arrest them through them. i made a big strategic mistake, or when he invaded ukraine, he expected the t of would fall within days and the whole of ukraine within weeks. but he underestimated the steely resistance of ukrainian people he taught or he could break it, natal unity, but nato allies are standing strong and united and providing unpleasant support for ukraine. and he wanted less nathan, but he has got exactly the opposite. more natal in response to russia else, illegal war filane and sweden decided to apply for nate thought membership which

will double the length of natal, so border with a russia at the nato summit in madrid. last june. all allies took the historic decision to invite finn and, and sweden to join. both countries have addressed turkey as legitimate and security concerns and delivered on the commitments under the to lateral memorandum agreed in madrid. tortilla is sir now ready to ratify finland's membership of natal. i welcome that position and i look forward to the grand national assembly ratifying finance succession before the upcoming turkish general election. i also welcome that the hungarian parliament will vote on finan next that week. the most important thing is that both of finan and sweden become full members of nato

quickly. not the way that it joined at exactly the same time. and i will continue to work hard to ensure that sweden becomes a full member as soon as possible. because the accession of finan on sweden will make them safer, all relying stronger and demonstrate that natal store remains open, present it in once different europe has seized democracy and freedom as effects. and it seeks to control its neighbors. so even if the war in ukraine ended to morrow, the security environment has changed for the long term. put in some innovation last year. it was a shock, but it was not a surprise. it was the culmination of the captain of aggressive action. and in response since marshall's illegal annexation on crimea in 2014, nate to has implemented the largest to enforcement or collect the fence in the

generation. so when russian tanks rolled into ukraine, we were reading we in ours, we activated our defense fans from the baltic to the black sea. we put 40000 troops under nato command, with a significant air and maritime presence and doubled the number of nato, but use from 4 to 8. at the same time, nato allies have provided ukraine, would significant support supplying advanced weapon systems and ammunition to help you train, defend itself and regain territory. we are also in the process of agreeing a new capability targets for the production of battle, decisive ammunition, and engaging with industry to ramp up production to support ukraine against russia's aggression and for our own defense,

nate though is increasing the protection or critical national infrastructure, including under c cables on pipelines, they'll set up an undersea infrastructure coordination. so here at nato headquarters and established a joint nato. you task force. i thought was some, it's in the dread. last june. nato allies agreed of further for the mental shift in the turns on the fence with new plans, assigning specific forces to this to defend a specific allies. higher edna's more stokes, on more people, systems, equipment, and even stronger command and control arrangements. we agreed unused such a concept the 1st in the decade to guard our lines in an era osa t g competition. it identifies russia as the most significant threats toward security,

along with the ongoing effect of terrorism and makes claire and that china challenge our interest security. ant values 2022 was the 8th consecutive year of increased defense spending across europe and canada. last year the fence spending increased by 2.2 percent in real terms. since allies agreed that the fence investment pledge in 2014, you to penalize and canada have spent an additional $250000000000.00 extra on the fence. many allies, i was announced, significant defense spending increases since russia's invasion. now, these pledges must turn into real cash contracts and concrete equipment because the funds spending underpins everything we do. since 2014

alice have increased the fence pending and we are moving in the right direction. but to not moving as fast as the dangers rolled, we live in the mounts. so while i welcome all the progress that has been made, it is obvious that we need to do more. i'm in need to do it foster our summits indigenous in july. i expect the allies to agree and more ambitious, new defense investments, pledge with to present the g, the p as a minimum to be invested in our defense in this new and more contested world. we cannot take our security for granted. it is our security that underpins our prosperity and our way of life. our latest, the polling shows that 82 percent of people across the 30th nate ramos believe it is important that north america and europe are worked together for our shared

security. and 61 percent agree that nate, the membership, makes an attack from a foreign nation. less likely. nato has enabled europe on north america to live in peace for almost 75 years. but today's world is as dangerous as at any time since the 2nd world war. the age to come will be challenging. an 8 the must continue to rise to the challenge. and with that, i'm ready to take your questions. okay, we'll start with reuters. you re from reuters a secretary general, can you tell us how many countries are currently meeting the 2 percent target according to your latest report and, and if that number is still relatively small as part of the total. and can you comment on, do you have any concerns about the fact that even an almost 10 years after that

goal was agreed at most allies aren't making meeting that target? we have all the numbers and the figures updated in this a report to both photographically and, but also in the tables where you can look into the details for each and every ally . and it shows that the seminar lies now spend the to present. or we actually expected that to be slightly more earlier, but because g d p has increased more than expected for a couple hours to allies that are expected to be up to present that outside fit below to present. and so as i said, we welcome the progress to welcome the fact that all allies have increased. that more allies now spend a 2 percent of a g d p on the fence and more and more alice actually coming closer to present. having said that,

there's no doubt that we need to do more avenue to do to foster the pace we have when it comes to increase defense spending is not at high enough so, so my message realized is that are welcome, what i have done, but the need to speed up the need to deliver more in the more dangerous role, the need to invest more in the fence than it there. and that of course it is important that allows me to to present guideline. but of course, it also helps those allies have been close to one present. now are at $1.00, we're moving towards to present. so for instance, germany has a significant increase the fence bending over the last years just didn't look at to present. ah, but the increase in german defense spending re, it makes a big difference because of the sheer volume of the german economy and the german defense budget. and germany has clearly committed to be at to present that soon. we'll get to associated press a secretary general loan cook from the associated

press. you and you just met with the hungarian foreign minister. and i understand from some remarks that he's made in brussels, that you intend to go ahead with a, or a ministerial level meeting at some point or nato ukraine. and i wonder why you've made that decision to go ahead despite what i understand to be existing hungarian objections. and if i could briefly, i'd be very interested in a remarks you might have about the chinese piece plan. ah, the term president, she and her and president putin are talking about at the moment. thank you. first on of the piece plan, i'm at it is for ukraine and to decide, ah, what are acceptable conditions. so for in the peaceful solution. and the china therefore needs to start or to understand ukraine's perspective and engage

with president this lensky at daughter. if fer it, sir, sir, sir, if it wants to be serious about the piece. and we also need to remember that the china has not been able to condemn the illegal war aggression by russia against her ukraine. ah, having said that, of course i will welcome any initiative, any plan. and that can lead to a, just an sustainable piece. china also piece proposal includes some positive aspects and elements sir, which i as support for instance, the importance of nuclear safety over protection over civilians and not least the underlying importance over sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence. and of course, any peace, a solution for ukraine must be based on these principles to the respect of the

total integrity and 70 over of ukraine. and this is also the main element over the peace band that suppressed incidence gifted forward as some months ago. and of course, an and durable last piece has to respect ukraine. nasa sovereign, independent nation in europe are in accordance with the, the you and a charter or an a ceasefire, or any solution that doesn't to, i respect the 70 and take our integrity of ukraine. i will only be away to freeze the war on the to ensure data. russia can the me constitute a re group and re attack. and that will not be a, just an sustainable piece. it will only help rochelle to hold on to territory. it has illegally and occupied. so again, i welcome initiatives that can lead to a just unsustainable piece. our dental date has to be up to ukraine to decide while the audio acceptable conditions,

while we should wait to support ukraine in their right to defend themself, right? which is enshrined in the you and shorter and they are defending himself themselves against russia's illegal war over of aggression then now on them on the nato ukraine. i commission it. yes. my plan is to convene a meeting ah, ah, at our foreign minister or a meeting in a couple weeks. i do so because i think this is a platform to demonstrate our support to, to ukraine. ukraine is enhanced opportunity partner. um, but at the same time i'm aware of the easiest way to to and minorities. and this is an issue that has also been discussed by dr with a ukrainian previous meeting. and i'm guess up, we'll continue to be our expect that to continue to be pot o'donnell with ukraine.

politico. okay, so you've been there are watching. and nato secretary general. yes, dalton brown at, at nato, at headquarters at just that taking questions. i having it delivered a 6 minute speech in which he gave. he said his annual address also listening to that was our brussels up, your entry, alexandra font nomine. who is that? there are welcome back, alex. so this was all about ukraine. yes indeed, because of course, we have to say that russia's warning ukraine, even though nature is not the warring party there. but the war still has an impact on the alliance on the security situation of allies. and it hasn't shifted the focus within the alliance from counter terrorism or crisis management and their issues, the issues that have dominated for the last 2 decades to territorial defense. so that is why, of course,

the secretary general stoughton berg was speaking about ukraine, about nato support for ukraine, but also about how nature is addressing what they see as a direct, as, and the most significant threat. russia good talking to you. thank you for after i'm coming from non nato headquarters. what an association pay and rushes vladimir putin holding a 2nd day of talks in moscow. as she's a highly publicized visitor, being billed by both sides as a display of the countries increase increasingly close ties. g arrived at the kremlin and the last hour, i mean, but pageantry. those talks with president putin are expected to focus on how their 2 countries can increase corporation on various issues. up to 2030 for more than 5 hours on discussions into the china piece plan

a for ukraine. let's get more on the visa 2 days of meetings from our chief international editor, richard walker. welcome back to the studio or richard. so 2nd day of talks, but little information on what they're actually discussing, a take us through what, what, you know, what's going on yet. so as, as you just mentioned, that they had initial talks on the 1st day of the meeting yesterday. so when she jumping arrived in moscow, but what, what they're describing as informal talks, but which went home for 5 hours, really extensive conversations between the 2 men and what they've now gone into what we just saw there in the 1st is that with, you know, coming together in this huge chamber in the kremlin, it is now the formal part of the proceedings where they're really getting down to more detail. and what we're expecting than later they're saying that there's going to be, they are going to talk to the price is going to be joint press statements. and that's going to be very interesting to see what they actually say. so the press and then before they go to, to

a big dinner. but in terms of concrete things that have come out from the talk so far, there's not been a huge amount. there's been some about ukraine, we can maybe talk about that in a 2nd. and also, shipping is already invited vladimir putin to come to china to kind of reciprocate this visit later in the year. and interestingly to, to do so in going to the belt and road initiative forums, chinese global infrastructure project, vladimir putin now planning to go to china to take part in that forum later in the year. ok, so let's talk about this. this is chinese piece plan for ukraine, which mr. brewton has said he's going to study very carefully. i glance through it because my chinese is pretty good. i have google translate and it's all very bland . it's all very, let's, let's talk peace. let's get our people around the table. let's not do anything. hey, see, let's, let's look at it territorial integrity without sanctioning a beside,

without saying russia needs to do this without even talking about territory. just this stand any chance of being taken seriously by any? well, it's, it, it's had a pretty critical reception in the west, and on the, what had he gotten kind of got a little bit hyped up there was a lot of anticipation about this when we 1st heard about actually here in germany at the munich security conference a few weeks ago where china's top diplomat made the speech to the music security conference and said, you know, this plan is coming and, and it's not really a piece plan what they is, what they call a sort of a position paper. and it has 12 points where they say, ok, this is what we think about this. this is of, you know, basically our principles i think is a bit for each side to take kind of comfort from. so the very 1st point is you mentioned a talking about sovereignty and territorial integrity. now for the west, that means, well, you don't invade countries, you don't try and grab their territory. but then the 2nd point is talking about not

wanting to have what a professor is, a kind of a cold war type mentality. and this reflects the point that basically china supports russia's ration off of this war. russia says it attack ukraine because it felt that nato was kind of going to get sort of ukraine into its tentacles, and it felt that nato was threatening rushes ers security. so there are bits in this plan which may look a bit favorable to ukraine and bits, which look pretty favorable to russia. but i think the big question mark, hanging over it is, how can russia, how can china really present itself as a kind of really independent mediator when she, jim ping is on a visit of this scale to russia, talking about, you know, the deep friendship took about letting me put in his personal friend telling putin yesterday, i'm sure when you stand for election next year, you'll get reelected again because you're doing such a great job. well, that doesn't sound like the sort of messaging from

a country that wants to present itself as an independent mediation. thank you for that. a pleasure as ever chief intellectual as richard walker with that you're up to date scout alpha sasa, mo, world news at the top of the out. always available of course, around with walk on the w dot com on the d. w with

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