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applications, is the work of companies around the world who feed the algorithm. we'll look at one of them. i'm see from beardsley in berlin. thanks for coming to our shop. tensions are growing between beijing and washington over the fate of tech talk in the us, trying to warning thursday against us efforts to ban the popular app or force parent company bite, dance, divest. it's us operations that came just before showed the chew, c e o of by dance, which is the company behind tick tock testify the congress that the ap had no significant ties to bridging calls for washington to act on tick tock gathered steam. after that testimony. the issue is the latest source of tension between china and the you, us and clifford coon and my colleague joins me for more on that. clifford, let's start with his testimony. there was, this is highly anticipated. a lot of people talking about how this would go,

how did it go? i think it's fair to say it didn't go well for, for tick tock or its parent company by dance. it was basically, they done a lot of preparation. they'd install the ceo who, who looks in many ways like he's, he's a chat g p t version of, of the. so, you know, here, exactly, you know, he's, he's, he's singapore in, so he's not mainland chinese. he's harvard, goldman sachs, you know, he's got these excellent credentials. he's a great appointment and they hope that by that that they can basically present a much more progressive, a much less china people's republic of china aspect to the company. and instead he faces grilling and am i mean tech ceos never do well in these congressional hearings. i think it's probably fair to say, but he still, he, he evaded questions. he was, he found it difficult to answer things. for example, was asked about change young. now i know a lot of ceo's are being asked to have the western chinese province are muslim. minorities are oppressed exactly. yeah. and he was asked about whether there was

persecution of the weaker muslims there. and he kind of dodge the issue and try to focus on the content of that that's in the, in the app. so other western companies have done this. volkswagen has done this in germany. they've also said that there's no labor violations of their plants in, in change young. but it's just one of those examples of things where he really, he really faced a grilling and didn't come up with the goods you use the word installed as if he's not the real face of this company. is there anything that you could have said to reassure congress in this case? i think there's been a lot of things, i mean, since the trump donald trump, basically try to put tick tock up for sale a few years ago. and then he changed his mind. also because the chinese stood up, the chinese government basically they love the algorithm that runs tick tock. and that row that runs in which is the chinese version of to talk because tick tock is actually found in china itself. and they so it, rather than give up their crown jewel, which is the tick tock algorithm,

they basically put on the list of band export items and on which they at which point to talk that we're, we're not going for sale. and then trump moved on anyway. now the biden administration has revive the, has revive these things, but forcing to talk to, to divest. so i think that basically, against that kind of backdrop, we've also had very spying allegations against them that they've admitted that they, they use their software to. they used to talk software to, to follow some journalists from both buzzfeed, a, several employees of the company. we should say, lease, that's what the company itself. yeah, yeah. of both feet and financial times and they since apologize and employees have been fired, but it's got this air of espionage suspicion corporate corporate espionage. so for a little a good say, let's listen in this case to what china said, following that testimony, if you play that made on the u. s. should respect the principles of the market economy and fair competition. it should stop unreasonably suppressing companies

from other countries and provide an open fare and non discriminatory environment for investment and operation or at a spokeswoman for the chinese foreign ministry there. when we set aside sort of the weirdness of the fact they're talking about free market principles, the communist party there in china. where does tick tock fit overall in the general trade dispute picture between us and china that we've seen in recent years? well, i think what we saw yesterday was kind of an unfair tick tock is position is of the center of what is increasingly a battle ground between the u. s. and china. we're seeing it now. we've seen in geopolitical terms, over issues like taiwan and, and, and now we're seeing it in the corporate world. it's really stepping up. it began with wow, way for the tech of telecom gear provider while way, which is has strong links to chinese government and approve problematic around the world and tick tock in some ways. is a much more public version of this. it's the public face, a much more public face for this corporate competition that we're seeing now

between the us and china and it's ideological competition. it's, it's basically you're seeing 2 very, very different styles of corporate governance coming head to head. you know, critics have pointed out that western tech firms also have issues with transparency when it comes to data security or their data policies to the algorithms perhaps, perhaps. and that also there have been instances of western tech employees using the algorithms to target reporters. for example, or other firms, i should say, i don't, these people have a point that this is sort of strange that this chinese company really comes in the spotlights when there are similar examples with western tech firms. well i think, i think the big difference is, is transparency. um facebook marks arkenberg has been, he's been one of the tech ceo's is perform poorly in front of a congressional commission before. and when you bring, when you bring people up, you know, you see before these, you can see that they do indeed have a point. but am at the same time,

there's no transparency and there's that people are, are not sure whether the chinese government can just reach in and take whatever information it wants. i think that's ultimately what it comes down to. are i clear for kuhn and business? thank you very much. i left her now to some of the other global business stories making headlines. are i staying in china authorities? they're rated the officers of us corporate due diligence, firm mince group, and attained 5 local staff. the news comes emitter, deterioration, us china relations and months of diplomatic tensions. the rate of men's group offices is likely to raise concerns among foreign companies. there you as prosecutors are investigating swiss banking giants, u b. s, and credit suisse, or allegedly helping russian oligarchs. evade sanctions? the 2 lenders fe significant binds if the justice department finds evidence against them. us authorities began investigations before the beginning of the recent banking crisis, which saw u. b. s agree to take over credit suisse. germany is bracing for severe transport

delays and disruptions on monday. the country's 2 major trade unions verde and e v g have announced a nationwide public transport strike. verde is now demanding a more than 10 percent pay raise for public sector workers. a chat, g p t being bar, just some of the most prominent consumer facing ai applications out there. but how do they get so advance? well, there's a learning process and that takes constant feeding of the information. and that work often tedious, is done far away from silicon valley, and it's created a small industry of its own. take a look. rashni is one of some, 200 women who work at this data center in southern india. the 25 year olds job as a data worker and bob's feeding algorithms with new information. this just seems like a given a, giving an individuality to me. like i,

i feel as an india that like i am earning know i'm a dependent and i'm her freedom of a like a financial freedom is something different if you are experiencing that. her company employs more than 700 people who all graduated from good schools. that's a must because the company deals with large international customers to we're teaching the human in diligence, to a mission that is symbolic, called artificial intelligence. we also use machine learning, for example, because without label has, if driven got, it is called autonomous the driver. so in order to do to this machine or discard how to drive in the profit, what is human? what is wrong? what is the weakest realty to them? issues by labeling annotating object in carola, there's been an increase in a i companies and they're drawing interest from foreign firms. it's attractive because costs are lower. a young professional earned $250.00 euros per month on

average. but branding challenges will mean for companies trying to pitch their workers as serious competitors to others on the international market. it is not true that these workers are a low skilled workers. that is not true. many of them i work with many workers in gary and syrian and nurtured tina. and many of them have degrees. they have a decrease in computing and i t computer science and so on. so it is not. it's just that they don't have the opportunity to work it better just so they do dis, ah, as a way to make ends meet as a company in fox is breaking the industry mold by offering sick pay an maternity leave while rationing still lives with her family. she finds the benefits appealing, we could same for ourselves and we can get a better life for our family as well. so this is really basically fietta combining other companies. and this hasn't been the standard and global ai data work. but

with the sector growing 25 per cent annually, things are slowly changing for the workers who feed machines with information. hundreds of thousands of russians have left their home since the beginning of the war. one destination is georgia, where russians can enter and earn the right to work without complication. tens of thousands are staying in the black sea city of but to me there's a look at one recent immigrant. but to me, georgia, a place of refuge for thousands of russians. one of them is maria and i t specialist from st. petersburg. she and many other refugees say they're against pu and, and the russian warn ukraine. she supports russian opposition. politician alexis, of all me. but after his poisoning and imprisonment, she sees no future in russia numbering,

elizabeth, eligible to hold demonstrations in georgia in russia, they would immediately throw you in prison. records in, in georgia is her temporary adopted country getting in was easy. russian citizens don't need a visa. maria rents an apartment with a kitchen, bathroom and bedroom for about 500 years a month. her dog betty shares the flat with her. maria is financially stable in st. petersburg. she was well paid, working as a programmer for an american company. here she works for a new client based in israel, george and makes it simple for refugees to gain a foothold. residents and work permits are issued within a few days. rosa, yada walter. i registered as a sole proprietor, yet could all of that. it's very easy. it takes a day or 2 quite taxation for small businesses, also very low, only on one per cent of income, but that subordinates a unique situation and very attractive for i. t specialists,

department. it's also the reason why many programmers come here. there are tens of thousands of us. didn't book one on the south campus. many of the countries young talent are fleeing to other places and turning their backs on putin. right. that's our show for now. we'll be back later with more headlines. in the meantime, check us out online. it'll be doc. com slash business. we're also on youtube or the deed of the news channel. i'm see if there's a link to watch. conflicts own with sarah kelly as the fighting rages in russia's war of aggression against ukraine. the international criminal court has issued a warrant for pollutants arrest. my guest this week on conflicts own has called the deportation of children, a genocide and demand justice, ukrainian m p. and chair of the parliamentary committee on integration of ukraine

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