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ah, after weeks of massive public anger over these rights governments planned reforms to the judiciary by minister benjamin netanyahu has hit the emergency stop. with tens of thousands of protesters gathered outside the capacity in the supreme court . mister netanyahu put the pet project of his far coalition on ice and now says he wants compromise with his political opponents. i'm phil gail in berlin and this is the day, ah, ah, a return here in a year from now to get. now all these accomplished with our leaders care about
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the nation, about the people about the citizens not about themselves. ah, i'm just one person. then the most important thing is, god forbid a civil war. all the painting that's gonna be one stop until we mean until we get the country back. now be left on to also coming up, an unprecedented visit to china by a former taiwanese head of state. what does this mean for beijing's hopes of one day? taking control of the island messaging is over the mon, i mean they gene of course, once cross your relations to get closer beijing ones. how want to feel more closer to, to china, and hopefully with a more amen, aboard counties, audience a, china, can there have a possible have a cheaper way to find taiwan,
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to get power back into china's own arms, so to speak, in a piece, ball lower cost where the gathering crisis over planned reforms to israel's judicial system reached a tipping point on monday. as the prime minister benjamin netanyahu stepped back from confrontation and pledged compromise with his political opponents. the law aimed at curtailing the supreme court powers of oversight on the line that connects it to overrule it with a simple majority was a key policy of israel's foreign coalition. government government has complained that the court is interventionist, but a massive public backlash culminated on monday. with strikers, shutting down much of the country flights for ground, it is ready. diplomats walked off the job, it's embassies, and millions of people took to the streets. mister netanyahu complained to 40, called an extremist minority, that he said, was ready to divide the country and said it was right to pause. the hood of
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a sense of national responsibility is locked out of a will to prevent a rupture among our people who have decided to pause the 2nd and 3rd readings of the bill in this session. and they can s it in order to give time and reach that wide consensus for work. from all, let's bring in nathan fax, he's director of the center for middle east policy at brookings. welcome to the w, mister netanyahu. i said he wants to take a time out for dialogue, but he has a battle on his hands. doesn't he? with the opposition and his own coalition, he really does his justice then between the public war. and we've seen polls today as a showing the opposition gaining and strength if there were elections today on one side and on the other side, the far right threatening to leave the coalition. if he does pause, he had to pay off the far right. in other policy areas to just keep them in the coalition. he's in a very difficult mind. he's lost a lot of his previous, the perceived power and he seems weaker than ever in many respects. ok,
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so he had to make concessions to get them this far. what cards does that leave him to play to get this back to the 2nd and 3rd readings? well, the real question for him is, does he have the votes? and if he passed that, what would happen to the country? the votes is not an easy question. the minister of defense to was, was fired this week, said he would not vote for that legislation because of the effect it had on the morale and the unity of the armed forces. and therefore, his loss already one vote from his own party that he could is at least 2 other members who have indicated that they would probably not vote or abstain or simply be out of the room. and with the $64.00 out of $120.00 majority, meaning only 4 seats, you cannot afford to lose any more votes. given that it's probably likely he will not try to test it. he probably doesn't want to vote at the moment. and as he often does in many areas is trying to push things now to the summer. still he would like
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to pass this kind of legislation or something like it. and then he, i was old arctic is always to try and respond, find a moment of opportunity and then perhaps give it a different dressing and pass it that way. all said and done. however, anthony, i was taken a major blow. this is, it was a giant reform revolution, really that he was trying to pass. he put all his weight behind it. and the country simply rose up, or a big chunk of the country rose up and eventually now he's step back, came back from it. and, and, and shell did at least for the moment. right? so he won the fish as much or as well as the right wing us and he's coalition is a very different reason. so if you look at the right wingers, especially ones or more nationalists either from far right, they want this so as to avoid the supreme court curtailing some of the settlement activity that they favor orthodox and its coalition wanted. because the supreme
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court is tended to limit their ability to avoid construction to the military and to impose religious laws on of largely secular state. is it within his own party? there are other reasons and he personally, of course needs it for his own reasons. he is under trial at the moment trial for bribery and breach of trust and to get out of that he will have to do quite a few legal maneuvers. these legal maneuvers would probably be stopped by a supreme court. that is not part of the reason he personally wants to curtail the power of the supreme court that he personally can get out of a state prison. right. so we've seen a weeks of strikes and today at, throughout the israel academy, 2 ports, 2 big shopping miles, change the medical association, flights from from the bend go to an international airport grounded today. so we see always this opposition. does that mean these really public is clearly against this move, or we just seeing a noisy minority out on the streets. it's not
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a noise and i normally this is a huge chunk of israeli population. last night we saw perhaps half a 1000000 people come out of the street spontaneously at about 10 p. m is really time and last well into the small hours the we hours of the morning after the firing of the minister of defense, who himself is the recruit person of nathan he i was own party. this is not a small minority by any means. the fact that the trade union joined in is actually very remarkable. the trade union, traditionally, of course, was like the labor party, as it is in many parts of europe. but today that's no longer the case, the good part of the house own right main party actually is the strongest and trade union. and still the trade union felt the need to come out of this is unprecedented . what we're seeing as always, true drama. we're seeing widespread opposition to this. that said, we should overstate this. there is still a large chunk of the population. that of course, voted for the now he won the election just very recently, and some of them very much still support this minute. so israel is deeply divided, it clearly does a majority against it. and the latest calls us from today show that if elections
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were held today and they are not with any i would lose. and so where is the white house in this? what has been the white house view, all this turmoil in such a significant ally. while the wireless has been appalled by the plan at the outset forward, but has also been in a bind from the beginning. the white house looked at this and saw clearly a domestic issue. this is about the arrangements, the constitutional arrangements between the legislature and the judiciary in israel . that's not something the white us usually comments on. however, a real and to my mind, very clear threat to is really democracy, something that you guys states cares about. and that biden himself now has championed as a world cause as the main difference between the united states on the one hand and rush or china on the other. as united states, this administration has come out vocally against the proposal just nation. they've usually called for consensus, meaning that the opposition would have to be involved. and they've lash themselves on to a proposal by the president of israel,
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a non political figure at the moment. as a hertzog, who propose a compromise and called for wide wide consensus between coalition in opposition. we've seen the president himself speak about this, the secretary of state ambassador to israel and on and on. it's been quite remarkable for domestic issue. although of course, as a messic issue, it's not been as forceful as on other issues that the united states gets involved. and so how do you think and said there's this issue get kicked into the long grass or does this coalition end up falling apart? and israel, having another set of elections might be a bit of both knit anyhow, does not like to lose. and if he sees that he cannot get the past, or that if he passes this, he will face another uproar like you just did this week. you might well try to kick the can down the road that is most within the, in many issues. and something is very well adapted doing. but i should say there's almost no one in the political system. it is all trusting to the fact that he says
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it's still until the summer does not mean that in the summer they don't simply pass 2nd and 3rd reading of a vote, i should say they prepared, at least one part of this legislation was passed. committee and is now ready for simple 2nd and 3rd reading vote in the plenary that can happen within a day. and so one day in the summer and then you know, may decide to simply do it and suffer the consequences if he thinks he has a book. of course, if he does not do it, if you simply continues to get the kind of the road, he may eventually find tensions on the far right of his coalition and have to pay them off with more policy concessions which are very dangerous. because we should remember, this is not the only crisis facing israel at the moment. we've already seen violence in the west bank rise dramatically in the last year. and the potential for its escalating further is high and in charge of some of the portfolios most important to that. for example, national security is it's called now are some of the most extreme members of the solution, not the right people to come things down. a sort of clear. thank you so much for joining us. i'm outlining batch of nathan fax from video center,
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middle east policy bookings. thank you. thank you, sir. ah, germany has severely criticized russia's recent announcement that it will station nuclear weapons in ballard roost. as another attempt at nuclear intimidation, russian president vladimir putin said on saturday. that short range and nuclear weapons would be stationed in bel roost, which borders ukraine, as well as that nato members, poland and lithuania, data condemned what he called a dangerous nuclear rhetoric. his poland, deputy foreign minister. but at axia, with the reaction to this issue should be com that also firm spoken. com. since we cannot be intimidated by russian propagandist, the president of russia uses his propaganda very often to try to scare the west in what of course, is an attempt to petrified, to make the west be too scared to help you crane wrong to give in. but to be afraid
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of introducing even more far reaching sanctions, usa valley, you don't. so thank a spring, elena, a cobra r v. vienna center for disarmament and non proliferation. welcome back to d. w. and this sort of announcement, or from russia, i suppose, beggs to immediate questions, would president putin make good on this threat to station those tactical weapons in battle, roost? and what difference would that make? thank you for having them 1st. and in terms of whether, who's in the station this happens or not, we don't know. but what we do know this is not the 1st time the question about station in russian and happens in dollars has been raised. this time is different though, who didn't provide it, some details and some timelines. first and foremost, the beginning of the training of the pro, ration personnel and the construction of
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a story side when you live. this is our goal. so no rush i have has in clinton have been constructing such a storage site for quite a while and still has not transferred over there for whatever reason. we don't know . so we will, we don't know whether he will make good on his promises, but he's certainly trying to sound a political message and signal. but it is in terms of how dangerous this is on. there are different things that mostly it said of as the political signaling here and, and possibly displace coalition. but on the other hand, russia has many of its strategic plans that control will reach much faster to targets and, you know,
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and then the airplanes with boss. so i don't know that it's much of an advantage, and certainly there is probably another part of the discussion is russia has been relying on the strategic nuclear weapons in its military doctrines and planning. so tactical nuclear weapons it has on its territory story, but hasn't been in including in the class. so we don't know, i ever say again, it's mostly political signaling and the difference between the 2. just so we're clear what we're talking about between the technical weapons that he was talking about on saturday and the strategic weapons. this is range and size. is it? it is old and it's it could be different or sizes and ranges, but the difference is tactical. usually referred to the theater, so immediate,
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a fighting military action. so in this case, tactically, usually shorter range lessons, they can be pretty significant, but mostly they are, might slow you, less powerful, strategic weapons, are considered, or like long range strengths and for a heating some strategic targets. not necessarily in the battle, right? so these are the big biggest differences between the 2 and mr. pruitt. im have said that this move, if it happens, stays within current nuclear, non proliferation treated. and he says that by stationing he's nukes in better rooms, he's only doing what the u. s. is doing by putting it's weapons in europe. is that a fair equivalence and you to since a sudden degree, he's current 1st and foremost in the united states as
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a tactical nuclear weapons in europe in 5 countries. and now this has been criticized by many non and nuclear aids, or now we're actually russia itself. and lately china also joined us to sign the u. s. or having nuclear station on other countries territory. however. 2 that formula, nation english weapons that are under the u. s. and all of us policy was specifically design timeline me and, and you'll see them on the non creation of nuclear weapons. what's negotiated? we just don't civically allow to need her in us plans in your play. he's right, but it is. that's why i like it. the spirit of the tweet. thank you. it was very clear eleanor as a cover up from the vienna center for disarmament and non proliferation. thanks
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very much. thank you for heaven. ah taiwanda former present maryan jew as a beginning, a visit to china. the 1st such trip by former taiwanese leader since 1949 masters, he won't be meeting high ranking chinese officials. i'm if he's this is a personal is in a personal capacity. and he centered around piece for the trip house. spot controversy in taiwan a territory that beijing views as its own. and while the former president is on his way to china, current taiwanese leader, sighing when is preparing for a visit to the u. s, which is causing anger in beijing. tie ones, president sighing, then reviews the troops ahead of a sensitive trip to the united states and latin america. tensions between beijing and taipei are at their highest point. in decades,
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china's stepping up military and political pressure to for self ruled democratic taiwan into accepting communist party rule. oh ha, protecting taiwan and defending democracy has always li now military's great mission. i believe that only by continuously training and strengthening our war preparedness out can we be even more able to protect our home and defend our country. china has condemned the united states for allowing her to go. though her visit there is technically only a transit to and from latin america on her way home size expected to me. u. s. house speaker, kevin mccarty in los angeles. yes. to see my daughter, china and taiwan split in 1949 after a civil war. one by the communist party, with the defeated woman dying nationalists fleeing to the island. megan i, mainland china does not recognize taiwanese independence and wants to formerly united with the mainland. suitable and not sized visit coincides with the trip by
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her political rival, my young joe, who is a former president and k m t member molecule on mar, oversaw dramatic improvement in ties with china during 2008 to 2016 rule, culminating in an historic meeting with chinese leader, she jim ping in singapore in 2015 ex president my venture left office under a cloud of controversy. after a tray deal with the mainland fail to win approval amid the islands largest protest since the 19 ninety's. the 2 visits come as china's people's liberation army is sending fighter jets towards taiwan nearly every day. and as official communications between the 2 governments have ceased. russia's war and ukraine has cranked up fears and taiwan of an invasion. taiwan will hold a presidential election next year with the k, m t and current president saying benz d p. p. the main political parties vying for the top post. former leader,
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my hopes is more conciliatory approach will help the k m t, which is last the last 2 national polls. let's look at this river. robert daly, who's director of the wilson centers that kissinger institute on china and the united states. joseph from washington, d. c. a welcome, and what do you think? can the visit of a former taiwanese a president to china, really be as innocuous as mister mar would have us believe? well, it isn't innocuous at all. a china of course, is glad to have him there because it sends the message to the chinese people. and the chinese communist party hopes the people of taiwan. that there is room for some kind of reconciliation between taiwan and china. and of course, china wants that reconciliation to lead toward unification. so most of the communications between taiwan and beijing, i have been negative primarily because beijing has been determined that the current
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president fail. they want to return to happier times and hope of convincing the people of taiwan to vote for the k m t candidate. right. and where are the people of taiwan on, on china? i'm that mr. mark has been in power. so we presume that at some stage at people a weren't. so anti b idea of, of china, whether it be a close relations will being completely subsumed was public opinion at the moment. public opinion is well over 90 percent of the taiwanese identify as taiwanese and not as chinese. they said, they said, did you not see themselves as part of a chinese nation? and this is a change of course, from 1949. after as your leading section said, chiang kai shek retreated to 1949. so there's very little desire in taiwan to be ruled from bay ging, there's still
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a group in maybe 15 percent who would like to be incorporated by china. but most not. and these feelings strengthened greatly after china imposed a new national security law on hong kong. china's recent, brutal treatment of hong kong which violated its agreements, flit hong kong, keep its own social system for 50 years. means that now there are very few people in taiwan who believe in one country to systems and who believe in a gradual unification. ok, so the biggest thing, what happens when, when china gets it's a hands on a territory and that, that venom that please about it. that the timing list all by the timing is that it's all significant. we have the current president's a upcoming trip to the u. s and taiwanese presidential elections next year. certainly the timing is not a coincidence. everything that beijing does is very carefully thought out and choreographed. i think that there's one sense in which it's not a bad thing that the my,
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that my enjoy will be in china when citing one is in the united states. because that may, we shall soon see. that may convince china to stay at hand and not respond militarily to tying one's visit to the united states. she didn't think seems to be taking a piece munger out for a ride. he did this in helping to broker the reconciliation between saudi arabia and iran. when he was with vladimir putin in moscow, he was talking about a piece plan not very convincingly, but nevertheless, he's playing it piece. and now he will, you know, make very nice with buying joe. and it would mix messages dangerously for beijing if, while they were welcoming mining. joe, they were also threatening taiwan. so maybe beijing is going to engage in smile, diplomacy in the run up to 2024 taiwan presidential elections. i'll be surprised if that can be maintained, but i don't think that it's something that the united states should be sneering at right now. right. so it takes the pressure of beijing to be seen to acts about to
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taiwan. right. they can tell this way the world and their own people, that we are either people in taiwan who would like some kind of reconciliation that we value piece. beijing would very much like to tell the world that these analogies between russia and ukraine and china and taiwan, have no legitimacy to them. and also if china can maintain this pose and not be coercive or threatening to toward taiwan, they can help to complicate the western narrative about china as a bad actor. again, i'd be surprised if that can be maintained, but they seem quite serious about trying to maintain that posture for now. and, and a very quick word about this, the visit of the current time when he's a presence i inc, when to the, the u. s. what, what sort of message would that send? well, we've been through this before a number of chinese or taiwanese presidents have been to the united states on these
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trends. it tours as they go to visit countries in central america with which they have diplomatic relations. so there is a precedent for this, china is always angry, they're always in high dudgeon, but they, they tend to be in that frame of mind anyway. and, and they huffman, they puff, but they don't ever quite blow the house down. and so taking one's coming here and meeting with kevin mccarthy, i will probably be slightly less provocative than kevin mccarthy. like nancy pelosi going to taiwan. and it was taiwan that asked kevin mccarthy, please not to come and hope they could meet the united states instead. thank you for that, robert davy from the wilson census kissinger institute and china and the u. s. thank you so much. thank you. the day is nearly done, but the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter. i've d w news or you can find me at feel go at the day with
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