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belinda is more on our side d, w dot com. ah. the 45th president of the united states is going to face criminal charges in court. we don't know what those charges are yet and we don't even know the evidence against to donald trump. but a manhattan grand jury has decided he has a case to answer the charges stem from an investigation into the alleged payment of hush money to adult film. actor stormy daniels before the 26th presidential election. but donald trump. circus just rolled back into town. i'm fill gail in berlin and this is the day. ah, doctor, i think is the best thing that can happen in the world. what he's got in the world, a rich on the going to play dirty. they do all the games. they can get rid of
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drop them off. finally play free break out america or buddha's legal in new york. but this is legal lou. we're going to see the most politically charged trial in american history. i'm also coming up ukraine marks the 1st anniversary of the liberation of boucher, the town, just outside. keir that's become a symbol of the brutality of the russian invasion. nobody a year has passed since the day when russian occupiers were expelled from our city of boot. just not for me, a city that the world did not know about them, and there's enough a city that the world will never forget near some order. ah, welcome to the day donald trump's lawyers say they will vigorously fight the
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charges against their client in the 1st ever criminal case against a sitting or former us president. mr. trump's been indicted by a grand jury in new york, and while the exact charge is a part of the sealed indictment, it's known they are linked to the alleged payment of hushed money to an adult film . actor donald trump is the 1st u. s. president. ever to face criminal charges. a grand jury tasked by the manhattan district attorney's office, spent weeks looking into a $130000.00 payment made to porn actors. stormy daniels, trump reportedly paid the sum during the 2016 presidential campaign to keep daniels quiet about a sexual encounter, as she alleges they had years earlier. trump vehemently denies allegations of wrong doing. the exact charges he will face have not yet been made public. is too early
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to speculate what type of sentence trial would get if he were convicted by a new york jury. the judge would likely based it on the evidence that was presented at trial. whether trump testified, whether he perjured himself, donald trump claims he's innocent, he called indictment a case of, quote, political persecution and election interference at the highest level in history. his lawyer say they will vigorously fight any charges. the proceedings are bound to shake up to 2024 presidential race. u. s. constitution does not require a clean criminal record for someone to become president. but it would be extraordinary. for someone under indictment were convicted of a felony to become a presidential candidate. trumps lawyers have struck a deal with manhattan. prosecutors to not have trump in handcuffs when he
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surrenders to face criminal charges next week. but the former president who will appear in court on tuesday will still have a mug shot and his fingerprints taken that's get a republican view of this from megan malloy, who's a founder and executive director of republican women for progress. welcome to d, w. and despite being republicans, your groups never been great fans of the former president. what do you make of this latest development? and the trump saga? you know, we, we have not always been fans. as you point out. we started as republican women for hillary as so we kind of caught his bluff early. 2 on i think this will saga, the got a couple things we should get straight before we kind of dive into too much of this 1st. this is just an indictment. you know, there's a saying here that a grand jury will and dyna ham sandwich if they want to. so people may be getting a little over their skis here, but it's still early. you know, we,
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we don't even know the charges are. yeah. as you pointed out in the intro, 2nd, i think there will be a difference in the decisions of the actual court and of the court of public opinion. you know, chum may get off scot free here, but i think the long run this will end up hurting him, probably not among his most loyal based, but nationally and among the broader party. yes, i think what the real threat is at this point, like let's take a look back. he was able to use the 2020 election to really undermined our electoral system. he's cast out, his continued to cast out lisa among a pretty large swath of the american electorate, that we cannot trust the electoral system that there's fraud. these machines are rigged. and now he's using this indictment to cast out on our judicial system and trying to convince people that it can't be trusted. so i think what you're seeing here, what's really dangerous is donald trump piece by piece, trying to dismantle really what are the bedrock systems of our democracy? and i think that is more dangerous than paying off a porn star. okay,
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so you really, really don't like him. so if he, if he is charged and found guilty, that's something that, that would not cause you any. sleep was nice. you're a wreck, your, your, your parties of record vote winning republican candidates looking at jail time. that wouldn't be a problem for you. i think it would depend on exactly how it all played out if he is found guilty and everything works as normal as the justice system was designed and intended by the founders. then i think that's exactly what happened. you know, this is going to be a trial, it is decided by a jury of donald trump's peers in his home town of new york. and that's kind of what distinguishes american democracy, is our adherence to the rule of law, which donald trump always talks about. and you know, no matter who you are or what you're being accused. in fact, i would say that that is what makes america great. so, you know, that wouldn't cause me lots of sleep if of in fact it comes out that there has been
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some sort of interference or meddling, or if it was politically charged. and we're skipping over some, you know, points in the course of a child. and that would cause me some sleep, not just because it's donald trump because you know, we are in fact undermining american democracy in the judicial system at that point . right. so let the system take, it's a take its course and let the cods full where they may. let's, let's look at the, the wider aspect here because these allegations i'm, of course, the documented behavior of the man himself, all surely an indication of character. what does it tell us about the state of your party that it has allowed itself to be so dominated by a man like this? i think that's the 1000000 trillion dollar question and if i had the answer in a solution, i probably wouldn't be talking to all right. now i think it's really twofold one. and really,
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both parties are kind of guilty of this is we have made politics in the u. s. a team sport like we're no longer having the real matter of fact, debate on policy and the direction of the country and the concerns of the constituents. instead, we've gotten ourselves into this never ending, yelling match with each other team read versus teen blue, which is fostered this level of hate that really lends itself to the creation of these divisive leaders. like donald trump. i think the other problem is that, you know, especially for the republicans, maybe less so for the democrats, is that, you know, any focus on policy has shifted away from things like economic policy and foreign policy. and more on to things like social policy and identity politics that really have a tendency to turn people into the single issue voters. so you end up with the republican party being dominated by trauma, at least in part because a significant portion of the electorate sees him as the solution to their single issue and, and they're willing to look past everything else. right? so given this latest, this set of travails that he's going through, do you see,
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i mean champs for donald trump will not be the republican kansas the next presidential election. and if i had a dime for how many times i've been asked whether or not he is going to be the nominee, i think this is kind of a tale of 2 people right now. i know donald trump is using the indictment to, to try to swindle people out of a few dollars to help his campaign. well, joe biden is in my home state of mississippi, which was devastated by a tornado. not commenting on the diamond at all, but it's a tricky question. you know, i know i never thought that donald trump will be the candidate in 2016. i certainly didn't think he'll be president and i was wrong. i think if the election were held today, there is a non 0, she wins the republican nomination. what, what you have at least right now is a pretty steady 30 or so percent of republicans that are still trump supporters. and at least at this point the other candidates are just splitting the remaining 70
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percent. and a lot of the candidates were pulling fairly well like ron de santis. they haven't even announcer can yet, which whenever they do, would presumably boost their numbers. so i think, you know, it's a political eternity between now and the primary. i think that this indictment and arraignment and whatever decision comes down will have an impact on, you know, potentially nothing at ross and you know, i'm the yes. so i do want to dive in with a quick last question. see if we can see away who is what do you see as the best outcome of a trump criminal trial for your party? well, i think that depends on which part of the party you asking if you ask alice cheney or maybe new romney or last as me. ok. so i think in the very least in the best outcome, as i said earlier, is one which trump is thoroughly investigated. and deposed, and if there is,
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in fact, sufficient evidence that he's found guilty and charged and sentence just as anyone else would be that were in the same situation. and if that means that he drops from 30 percent to 20 percent, and we end up having someone that's going to focus more bull issues facing the country. great. and if that just kind of reveals a little more about donald trump and who he is and that changes the narrative of his candidacy, great for the party as a whole. and i think the best outcome is really just to let the law do with the law was made to do, don't have any experience meter signed, and by all means, don't let it inside another angry mob been in new york or in washington dc. i think we can all do without another one of those for a good long while. thank you so much for talking to us meghan malloy from republican women of progress. thank you. ah. has been a year since ukrainian forces liberated boucher from 5 weeks of russian control.
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what they found in the town about 30 kilometers from central cave was a trail of destruction and evidence of possible war crimes. the images of civilian bodies strewn across the streets reverberated around the world. 12 months on the move to hold those responsible to accounts is far from over. our next report contains graphic images that you might find disturbing. yes, this is boot chairs, jablonsky street, a peaceful, unassuming place. and this is how it looked after the russians fled. one year ago. the bodies of civilians left to wrought on the road surrounded by shopping. that was never delivered. some with the hands bound. okay. and then the boom, you can see it for yourself. these are civilians written. this one was carrying potatoes. when you and snipers shot them all on the head,
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out of boredom. wall. how could this happen? how could this happen? to understand how this quiet, residential street turned into hell, you 1st have to meet the people who lived died and survived. here currently were men like me kilo roman jak seen here trying to keep warm in the early days of the rush. an occupation, not long after this video, he joined his nieces boyfriend who wanted to check up on his own father. mckayla never came home. last year in the family found his body weeks later. you who lives in we were citing, and then the shooting started. we didn't see from where lucky but to see you. then there's all the album off on a welder who loved football and were all queued all guilty. his wife irina describe
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how russian soldiers tonda up there now destroyed home, and then ordered allah away. earlier, you know, wouldn't. so i thought, where's olay? i went outside and i saw he was lying than willy. they took him around the corner and put him on his knees and shot him in the head, lou, elko on you. i stood next to him. luckily. and then fell to my knees lewis, eliza and the russians were sitting across the street number we'll use those with the neighbor vladimir broth. jenko was returning a borrowed bike when he was killed. a relative says that russian marksman fired their guns with impunity. was a brack, his neighbor wanted to take him away and marry him in the yard like so. his clothes wouldn't be left lying on the street with a sniper. where did the neighbor in the shoulder. the bullet went straight through him and asked and he fled. even in the days after the liberation
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bodies were discovered in sailors and mass graves to an estimated 10 percent of the remaining population killed. in a month long reign of terror, president followed him, yet to lensky, visited the town to his face, edged with anguish. and at the more of these are war crimes, and this will be recognized as genocide by the world in order to prosecute war crimes, ukrainian, and international investigators must fashion identify the culprit. never mind arrest them a painstaking task that may never succeed for nadia whose daughter was killed. justice will be served one way or another. here don't she used to be nice and clean but here and there was order. everyone lived well.
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then these animals came and in one month they turned it into i don't know what it will be. may god punish them for the rest of their lives. people's guys, the people of birch i may have begun to recover, but they, nor the world will ever forget business as get more i'll miss roma. yvonne mcdermott reese as she specializes in international law and is professor of law at swansea university in the u. k. a welcome to the dublin, faster will prosecutions in cases like this. will they need to be as specific as this man from vest? russia military unit killed this man and this, madam, this woman on this date? so it depends who's on tries really? so i mean, we could have trials of the individual perpetrator in which case, yes,
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it would need to be as specific as this person who's in the jock committed these act on this days. but we have had trials as a lot of people higher up the chain of command. and there again, you need to prove that specific and crimes were committed and that the perpetrators were under the control of those who are in the delkin, those in those cases. so yeah, i mean, we do need to have specifics and those material thoughts need to be proven to them beyond reasonable doubt standard for criminal trials. right. so i'm, we know of international criminal court has issued warrens for vladimir putin arrest, but not for these sorts of, for the sorts of killings that we saw in our report in butcher. but for his perspective, involvement in and taking children from occupied ukraine to, to russia. why this distinction? yeah, well, i would say 1st of all, as far as we know, and not for these crimes bucetti and bait the international criminal court when
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this issue it's arrests warrant against rosemary. payton and murray, a livable over a couple of weeks ago, said we're making this, we had the option to issue this warrant of arrest under thea's, and in fact keep it c chris. but we're making this one public because we want to, you know, stop these couldn't the continuation of these crimes. so we wanted to be known that this arrest warrant has been issued. so who knows, there could be other warrensburg that have already been issued that we don't know of ice. and there's also the possibility that there are others coming further down the line. so just because or an orange of arrest has been issued for a particular crime, it doesn't by the court later on from auditing for their crimes, to the jackass. it's hard to envisage. so mom like vladimir putin ever ours, me standing trial in a code for everything. it's hi to visage perhaps,
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but it's not beyond the rings of possibility. you know, we have had historic examples off at that stage who, you know, people like stop at, on the loss of edge for example, who never imagines that they would ones one day find themselves in the dark and standing trial. so, you know, there, there is, i don't think it's beyond the rims of possibility. there's also an important and function rady off these arrests, for instance, that it sends a message to the international community that this is something that the international criminal court is investigating. and is willing to take action on am and there's also a of a function of these restaurants in terms of, you know, it's that, well, the impact of this arrest oriented that vladimir piece in effectively can't travel to any of the state parties of the international criminal court statues, there are a 123 of them. and you know, that's, that's quite difficult for
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a head of state to conduct their functions if they're not able to travel to other states that mice at work that are under an obligation to transfer them to the hague was so, and, you know, i mean, possible, he could he could face it, but ultimately, but that would be a political decision. wondered if, if there was a piece feel valid would be likely to include some sort of get out of jail jail for the russian leader. wouldn't it? it's really interesting because, and we have quite a lot of case law on this issue of whether you can have amnesty for international crimes. and charles taylor, the former president of iberia, for example, argued that, and he shouldn't be prosecuted before its 1st quarter fairly long because there is this piece agreement in place. and almost universally, international criminal courts have held that there can be no amnesty for international crimes. so there's the tension there, i guess, between the in scholar simply called the piece versus just to debase and,
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but the legal position seems to be pretty clear that, that you can't sign away and accountability french in atlanta crimes. i could, we just have a very, a brief word on, on the, the notion of crime, scene war. what is for thinking that underpins v i v i v of what is and isn't acceptable in a war when it's against blizzard purpose is to kill as many people as you can to achieve your political go. well, i can, i can contest the idea that that's the purpose of war to kill this many people as you can. i mean, the laws of war are hundreds of years old. and the idea is that, and they, the actions of the parties, general conflict, should be limited to those actions that offer a concrete indefinite military advantage. and so yet the war crimes essentially are serious breaches of the law as a barn contact. we have, for example, the geneva conventions of $949.00 before that be at the hey conventions and their
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serious breaches of these wars that, that, that more, less on wednesday to have signed up to saying if there is certain functions, certain things that are beyond and what's permissible in the context of war and that include things like attacking civilians and disproportionate attacks and you types of weapons and so forth. thank you. so much of professionally managed irma cert, reese from swansea university. thank you. thanks for having me. ah, transfer and to people who are in argentina, facing unemployment to lower incomes caused by the national economic crisis, but the off lines of hope on international a barrier transgender visibility, we visit the argentinean capital one, ferris, where up cycle boots are helping to form a path to change unique shoes that come in inclusive sizes. but more importantly, i'm taking this group of trans women. want to stay with me. they found
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a safe haven making and recycling shoes, cloves and backs in a workshop in when are scientists you know, make i miller? yeah. does change my life, it's something different. i is a how can i explain it to you? i'm just happy to be her as they are gone, then that either it's because she has finally found something close to a normal job. i'm originally from peru, vivian, sorry, i moved to argentina 2 decades ago. seeking that little bit of extra freedom and better opportunities. but as a trans woman, a normal job was always out of reach, forcing her to do whatever it takes to make ends meet. am we're the 15, we're for jojo, very difficult and gone. i was hoping to get a job for years, but no one would hire me over and now even less. so because of my age,
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where you now the sales from what she makes help her get for the month. 90 percent of trans women in argentina are forced into prostitution because they're being excluded from the job market. according to the hugh and development program that they show up at was workshop was originally thought to provide shoes in the right size. while the trans community, they simply desired the right fit for themselves. but soon it became clear that the co operative is much more than that. my mother knows if i just said it runs, but you don't need to be trans to have a bad life here in argentina, they are the can be known. if the women, the local again, at least the country is an, a deep economic crisis. local local, this land life here are worth little e window in isic isic on fixed door a in a trance communities, particularly vulnerable. they are either so one of the things we try to do is to provide manufacturing skills us bought i bought up at o. c. also
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a recent law in argentina reserves one percent of public sector jobs for transgender people. it's progressive but may not be what's needed to say the women of the archive of trans memory. here more than 10000 photos capture the lives of their community lives hidden behind closed door, marked by discrimination, ill treatment and persecution guy, or no more. it did or no, no other woman done anita loa to have every she certainly job in a room that i laugh. all right, he that i'll only god. but for us, even though they needed to make a law, the name of it so that we can actually have a job made by that boy then didn't. it wasn't that a lack of normal c is what many trans women here long for most with a progress made in recent years here in warner site, is there a confident that one step at a time therapy shoes will be filled by trans people in high ranking jobs, maybe even leading the country or the day is almost done. the conversation
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