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president william brutal has been visiting germany and he spoke to beat up the news here in berlin about the terminal at home, and what he thinks is causing it. it is so much about some election results which, which, which, which is a failure, settled mother, but day of course her because the cost of living is, are pregnant and issue is, are an emotive issue. our competitors are trying to take advantage of it. but i think that people of can, you are, are north white there's been unrest to in the democratic republic of congo residents of the city of goma take to the streets, tired of incessant militant attacks. we discuss what's driving this and other protest in africa. ah,

i'm told me your logic well it's good to have you with us for 3 weeks straight police and kenya have clash with protestors who are angry about the rising cost of living this week. crowds again defied a ban on demonstrations and took to the streets and several cities including the capital nairobi, bringing business to a halt. the opposition of leading the uprising calling for much as every monday and thursday over the tough living conditions. and to express discontent with last year's presidential elections. ah, hungry and fed up this protest as have been suffering in the hush economic times. they live in a robbie's poorest neighborhoods. ah, again, they've taken to the streets only to find the authorities heap back had the clashes have been gently but some c direct actually the only way to get their voices had for many small trade as daily life has become impossible. not other that

are long. i want the cost of living to come down. the commodities i sell are too pricey in the market. a sack of potatoes goes for a $100.00, but i barely make any profit would over. but we're constantly being harassed by county police sheeka, which we do. why now that the president should bring down the cost of living return router has portrayed himself as champion of the poor. he promised to improve the life of ordinary kenneth. but there's been little a sign of that for foot, electricity and fuel the praises of only reason ah, modernity of the protest that they are most of them in their twenties and thirties and they live from hand to mouth. now that's a story of about 80 percent of kenyans who do not have regular jobs. they're now demanding that the government steps in and addresses their most against needs. oh, the man at the head of the protest is veteran opposition leader raylon dinger. he blamed the government for the rising cost of living, and it goes farther,

alleging that william brutally last year's election. although kenya's supreme court has upheld the validity of the paul, rudolph must make no mistake. this dragon will much on stronger and mightier with his every vile lucas ponce de lower demands are met many canyons i left to take stock after then dressed. people not fat on the protests, have seen their lives up, ended unable to go to work. many small businesses have lost everything religiously does in civil society are appealing for come. they are worried that the situation could spiral into uncontrolled ethnic violence. laws lost their businesses, they lost their garages, nubians lost their business. if a key thieves were attacked, chiquita has lost their key off and all people of god suffered. and i think the question we have to ask ourselves is, how will we allow ourselves to be manipulated by politic politicians and by

criminals? the government has well to crack down on the protest, calling them no less. but as the cost of living keeps arising, widespread public anger is likely only to depend of the situation unfolded in kenya, president william router was visiting europe, seeking to boost trade partnerships. while here in germany, he spoke to d w's, chief international editor, richard walker, on the situation back home, and on a wide range of other issues. now kenya has taken a very strong and very distinctive position on the ukraine war, you know, right, in the early days in the un security council, speaking out very clearly against russia's invasion, me explain kenya's position. why's it been speaking out so strongly? because we web grid, believe us and signal to this to their un charter, which speaks directly to a rules based globe. you know,

and ensuring that there is respect for countries and their boundaries. and any violation of where the un charter by anybody in whatever manner is that threat for violation of the same elsewhere everywhere the world and the world is realizing that they're africa is an important destination. important because an of what the, the future pretense. you know, this is the continent that has 30 percent of the world natural resources. this is the continent that has the largest resources around renewable energy. we are talking about 70 percent of the population in africa is below the age of 30, the creative, innovative, energetic. and so it's,

it's necessary for any part of the world to realize the importance of africa and to tap into or what africa can bring to the table. this is not the continent of disease than poverty anymore. this is the continent that has a future. and everybody or any reasonable leader anywhere in the world would want to know what africa thing settled. one that partnership with their african continent is just stepped back, maybe from the war for moment. and the even bigger picture that there's been criticism of the west visit v. it's kind of appeals to the global south over this war that it is requesting kind of support from the global south after not putting enough money into fighting climate change. not showing sufficient solidarity over providing vaccines during the pandemic. for instance, to the west is just the west need to look at itself and think more about solidarity

being a 2 way street. i would even take it father. we've had that rear ging war in d. r. c, we have our aging war in somalia. we have challenges in your peer. we have these shoes in south, so done. and we are all along. kenya, for example. we've had to put our resources. kenyon griffith in deploying troops in d r. c. we are currently hosting discussions to support that be processed in a t o p. we have gone or walking round the clock to see what we can do, supporting training or where their public officials, administration officials teach us for somalia, using our own public resources. i any, i think we need to have

a fair conversation when, when you talk about climate change we, we've said these many times that there we are bearing the biggest brunt of climate change with loss of but diversity should droughts. kendra is experiencing for years of continuous drought, severe drought, we've lost 2 and a half 1000000 livestock heads of let stock. we have lost livelihoods. and yet the conversational around climate change is still stare right thing as humanity. not that the global south we are facing as humanity allegory central threat because of the effects of 400 years of exploiting, fulfill fuels recklessly. the african continent is coming with a solution. stopping, financing for suited to l exploration and exploitation is on the matter of

when it's not a matter of, if it's a matter of when, because a dazzle stop. otherwise, this globe is going to ban with all of us in there. and those of us from the global south are saying we are coming to the table with our assets. we have the largest resources of renewable energy. we have the largest and natural resources. we have the largest and maybe 65 percent of the was auditable, uncultivated land. we have the largest population, young, energetic, innovative. these. that is also that we are coming to the table and saying, we need to have a conversation about how do we access development financing? how do we access fair, you know, consideration, how do we do risk investments in these resources so that we can

use renewable green energy to drive the development of the world going into the future? not the development of africa. her lawn nodded. brenman of the global stout. let me say these with, with up salute clarity, we are at a crossroads. a that we choose to continue the exploitation of forfeit fuels. and we accelerate our self to climate hell. or we finance the renewable green energy in the global salt and save the water. now i'd like to turn to the situation in kenny at the moment because also connected with the was there's a cost of living crisis being experienced in many, many countries can years pretty badly hit and people are angry, they're big protests. their police been firing tear gas to today or what he doing to calm the situation. we're leaving that context and who can now by the way,

is there there possibly the largest democracy in our region. and we had the best ever election last year. of course, unfortunately it's 6 months after the election and my compared to that and my competitors, let me say, decided to pick up and say that her to want to challenge your election. not been a court of law, not in any in non duty to diction, but to challenge my election on the streets with, with, with their demonstrations. um, but let me tell you that i'm from where i sit. yes, we have a crisis of commodity hi bray. this where they'd fertilize though,

where they tis the fuel or whether it's green. you boss me directly. what am i doing? number one. we have just said 5000000 from us. we are providing her for the lasers and there were seeds for them to grow. and about to we are importing food from across the globe where some of the m imports are like last week we've cleared some of them to begin to tampa. and the price of their commodities are to nairobi. ah, a lot so much about the cost of living. it is so much about some electron result would would, would, would you for a clear 2nd mother. but day of course her because the cost of living is, are pregnant and issue is her. an emotive issue,

our competitors are trying to take advantage of it, but i think that people have kind a lot wiser. and i just like to finish by touching on an issue that that has been the source of some international controversy. the l g b t issue, which in east africa many east african countries has been controversial. critics outside would say, well, you know, l g b t writes are an intrinsic part of human rights which are internationally recognized. do you recognize that you see that the, the rights of l, g b, t, people are intrinsic to intrinsically a question of human rights which are universal? would you feel that it is simply something that it is for each country to decide the canal constitution either 2010 constitution? in fact, it was celebrated as the most progressive constitution providing especially the chapter on human rights and that right. so people and in the

extent of the protection of rights of people that he's enshrined air in the constitution. and in that context, in the formulation of that constitution, the people of gwinnett spoke expressly as to what kind of rights and to what extent everybody can enjoy their rights without infringing on the rights of others . in kenya, the only understanding of relationships around marriage is around men marrying women that does the context of a relationship that exists in kane and exist in our constitution and is provided for in our constitution. and it can happen elsewhere. we have no issue with people celebrating their issues in america, in other countries that they're choosing just very briefly,

we knew it was really just a blink of an eye also in europe and in the united states that marriage was only between a man and woman as well, it's a very short time. do you think that will never come in kenya, or you think maybe it will just come up, but in a longer period of time, i cannot tell you. i cannot stretch. i kind of stood my imagination that far. maybe we can live it here for now and there and see what happens in the future when he returns. thank you very much for speaking to d, w today. thank you very much, my brother and as a full length version of that interview with kenya's president william router on our youtube channel. turning now to the city of gama, in eastern democratic republic of congo, which is nearly surrounded by rebels from the m $23.00 group, which is fighting against the government's forces. and despite the presence of un peacekeepers and the city residents, a worried for their safety. this is a part of the country that

a suffered years of militant attacks and the desperate civilians crying out in fear and frustration. oh, most every day people take to the streets in easton, congos, goma. they're fed up with increasing attacks by militants, especially m. 23 rebels. they say un peacekeepers and troops deployed from east africa of failing to protect them. and they are tired of waiting for aid from the own government. oh not much john like we going hungry? the sick a dying because we can't even find porridge to feed them or not that we're not leaving empty handed, but we know there's food in a depot field. so give it to us one more step. will i be that the un says over 800000 people have been displaced by fighting between congo. leesville says and am 23 rebels. the collapse of yet another cease fire. an early march has aggravated the situation. thousands of displaced live in kenya. regina knows have goma,

local authority, say, protest is here, attack to passing un convoy, which then fired into a crowd, killing 8 civilians and wounding $28.00 mo. what to say? d, about a bit. we would like the bodies released from the morgue doctor william ward. so that we can greenwashing a baby, there will be less tension. never in this family is mourning the loss of samuel mahogany the 22 year old was one of those shot dead by un peacekeepers. number one on said the accost on long he helped us though, like a father magellio one. i own that i am a widow and he took care of me and the whole family. resentment is rife towards monasco. the un mission and congo on a scale is the you ins, largest and most expensive mission in the world. yet many here say it doesn't make them safer. a jenny was the mama. there have been many deaths. just us have been

the more deaths. there are more well the more soldiers there are, but the one they keep coming oh, got in. there's still no solution for found. the war continues when owned as yet, then i've been universally done. monasco is due to pull out of the d. r. c. next year, but many want them to leave sooner. if that sentiment grows, that monasco head worries the situation could become even worse to see all know she found utah. so if we don't act urgently to try and reduce these tensions, we risk finding our cells and an even more complex situation than the one in which we find ourselves in at the moment. i can little room after no efforts are underway . the united nations security council delegation visited go my recently to discuss solutions to the conflict. the you pledged 47000000 euros and aid, and a 1st mostly flight delivered tents and medical supplies. but many families like

this one wonder, will it be enough? our next guest has studied and written on protests in africa as agree among poly is a professor of political science at the city of you said university of new york. welcome to d, w. news africa, zachariah. now looking at the d. r. c can yard denisia, nigeria, south africa, right across the continent. we've seen people rising up in discontent. do you see any common elements between these protests? hey mike, this has been an ongoing phenomenon for over a decade now and what they share and obviously there are many different media triggers for these protests. what they share is a general disillusionment with the state of governance in these countries. in particular, the forms of electoral democracy that have been adopted and a sense of disconnect between the ordinary people and the governments that are in

our, across africa. right? why, why, when the discontent, why do they seem to turn to this form of action? what make protest more appealing for them? a big part of, in the sense that there isn't much of a difference between the choices that are being put on offer and a general distrust the overall electro processes that we're seeing. i mean, i saw most recently, and i, jerry on your elections are meant to be oppertunity for ordinary people to voice their opinions on the political system. but as a general cynicism around whether or not elections are actually serving that function, many african democracies today. and i think that they are right, be justified, fine. they're just trying to be presenting systems. but as you mentioned as a political element, but what cases do we see more sort of. ready organic uprisings, i think what may these protest, sharon comment is that they usually start around everyday lively an issue. so if we

look at what's been happening in kenya, we need to trigger for these protests or by some pricing seeing place and taking quite a hit on african household over the past few years and particular. so i think, you know, they often are starting by sort of very basic questions around the cost of food in particular. but they can quickly mark into larger questions around the nature of government. and whether or not government are actually doing the things that we expect governance to do in terms of maintaining the welfare of the population. we've seen this form of action take place, not just in africa, around the world, seeing more and more of these kinds of math uprisings, particularly because we're in this instance age of social media and other forms of, of direct media. do we see some kind of inspiration that protest movements get from each other but it is 2 things going on, right. one is of course the largest structural. busy places like inflation that is really retired across many african economies. and certainly we're seeing protest

learning not only from other countries, but also from their own histories. many of these countries are not in their 1st balance mass projects, but their 2nd or 3rd, since 2010. and so as these things, you know, as these forces are continue to re catholic for african, i was old. i think we'll continue to see more protest going forward and newer and more sophisticated forms of protest as well. and is a mare just anger being put out, or are they calling for specific goals and, and are they effective in achieving these? i think anger of course, is always a hugely motivating force, but i think it's a, it's also a forum hope right. they are, they are actually trying actively through a democratic rights to bring change to voicing their opinions on the streets rather than through the ballot box. i think that's not surprising when in the sense that the systems that are in place no longer working do they bring change in definitely

between many, many cases where these protests have been quite effective. whether we're talking about things that have happened recently in places like sudan or nigeria earlier, we know that governments are forced to respond and hopefully governments will use democratic means to respond to the protests rather than tracking down on them. too many african countries do we see, i mean, sometimes these protests can also create a situation where they pave the way for, for example, it's the ability like the military seizing power like we saw a guinea in miley, for example, does, does this pose a threat to the democracy itself i think it's right from the democracy doesn't come from the protesters, but i do think that, you know, the, the larger specter of instability is, is a real one and does produce dynamics, which can be coopted by more nefarious political forces that could turn these

countries towards could at times and we see a number different countries, ethnic classes as we seem in other places. so, you know, i, i do think this is a fraud moment for these governments in terms of how they respond to the protesters . but i have not seen a situation where, you know, governments are bonding towards repression and how is the solution? so i think we ought to be very concerned about how often government became governments, companies, government, and others are tuning to respond to these protesters, which again are being conducted by their already young people. and i think are you something that we shouldn't, we should always keep it the forefront of our mind is not the action, the outside terrorist organization, they are their own citizens. and as a, as such, there should be a different kind of response available. so carry out monthly professor political science in new york. thank you for speaking to us. thank you for having me. well, that's it. now be sure to check out all the stories on d. w dot com,

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