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to convince she to use his influence over putin to put an end to the conflict in ukraine. now they do agree, there should be peace, but don't seem to be on the same page when it comes to getting there. i'm nichol, furnish in berlin, and this is the day. ah, the china in europe should insist on dialogue and co operation, maintain world peace and stability. we expect that china will play its role and promote a just peace when i'm on the matter of ukraine, china continues to urge, foretold true. we also count on shine, not not to provide any military improvement directly or in direct to russia. just says, well, i know i can count on you to bring russia to its senses. every one to the

negotiating table. ah, also on the day while my crown is trying to broker piece abroad, fresh protest the rob back home and france anger over his controversial pension reform drives hundreds of thousands out to the streets once more. ah, and then we have the impression mclauren has absolutely no interest in what's happening in his own country. ah, ah, welcome to the day. a little over a year ago, a man who am i call travel to moscow, sat at a very long table and tried to talk vladimir putin out of invading ukraine with no success as we would all see briefly after that. but he still sees himself as a broker of international peace. so to day the french president and the chief of

the european commission was it off on a line, sat down with chinese leader shooting ping. after all, china is arguably russia's most powerful ally. and she just recently visited potent and moscow. the european leaders came to beijing with a plea for help and co operation, but also a warning not to get involved on the wrong side. a clear message from the e. you chief to chinese president, jean ping, use your leverage with moscow to help end the war in ukraine. china's position on this is crucial for the european union. as a member of the un security council is a big responsibility. and we expect that china will play its role and promote a just peace one that respects ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. one of the cornerstones of the un charter. it was

a message echoed by french president, emanuel mac kron who joined the 2 for talks legless from greece on your train or the russian aggression in ukraine has dealt a blow to the stability farm and it ended decades of peace in europe. it worked on digital, i know i can count a new policy to bring russia to its senses and every one to the negotiating table, it will know that at that the negotiation whether the chinese president will, he'd that call is unclear. von de lion reported that he had agreed to talk to you crane's president zalinski when the time was right. though she made no mention of this in his own comments after the meeting. there were words of warning from fonder lion, the chief told ye not to arm russia against you. crane a possibility. many western leaders have feared it, but she also had praise for g statements on nuclear war. chinese president has urged both sides not to use nuclear weapons without mentioning russia, specifically on trade g said beijing and paris had agreed to deepen their co

operation in fields like aerospace and nuclear energy. human rights concerns, particularly the persecution of the wigan muslims. engine jang were also discussed . they each have called the european chinese relationship, a complex but interdependent one. the war in ukraine is certainly putting the partnership to the test. laurie daniels is the managing director of the a just society policy institute and joins me now. ms. daniels, thank you so much for being on the day. the french president saying he knows he can count on china to bring russia to its senses and everyone back to the negotiating table. what makes him so confident? you know, honestly i'm not sure it's been a pattern of behavior that china is not very willing or able to bring its partners to the negotiating table in times of distress. and that said, i do think the president, she sees a lot of value in his ties with europe,

and particularly in trade and investment, but also in making sure that you're in the u. s. for me not completely aligned on the pressure that the u. s. would like to put on china to come to the table on other issues. so i do think the president, she is in a position now where he does need to pay attention to the concerns of europeans, particularly on this most immediate and pressing priority. i'm but it's not clear to me that china feels that it has either the power or the responsibility to bring pollutant to the negotiating table. yeah, we're this piece initiative to go forward though. we know china is not an impartial broker, right. they're not as neutral as they portray themselves to be, but could they be an honest broker? i think so. i do think again, there's a mutual interest in ending the war. if you take a look at the statement that china has made on ending the war and ukraine,

a lot of the principles that they've put out are about reducing the impact of the war, including goods, security and nuclear safety and other issues resuming training investment. so i do think there is an alignment of interest that could prove very helpful if again, china is willing to use the leverage that it has over russia in terms of its own times with russia, trade and investment in order to bring to to the table. they have, though never acknowledged that russia is to blame. here she has presented a 12 point piece plan without ever having spoken to you. graham, president, zalinski, since the war broke out. so how can you expect his efforts and his interest in peace to be taken seriously? it's a wonderful question, it's when i would post to the chinese directly, i am from my perspective. i think that the interest remains in these instability in the world. china has played

a larger mediation role than expected and other areas of the world, including recently in bringing together and the new saudi arabian, or ron, to come to an agreement to restart diplomatic relations with each other. so china clearly has the capability to be attending the nurse. that might be the best position for it on the claim crisis, but it would involve president, she taking that exit out of talking to president zalinski. so that if he isn't seen as a neutral convenor, should that negotiation come to pass jobs in china's interest in portraying itself as a force for peace is spoke about around in saudi arabia. they're big enough to take a step towards ukraine and the west starting may be by acknowledging russia is role as the aggressor here. it's been very difficult for president. she personally to step back from his statements that were made on just before the war began. and that each, that china and russia have no limits partnership. i think president,

she is very invested in the strategy of pursuing a closer china russia partnership. and that's clearly been prioritized over i statements condemning russian is clear violation of the un charters in the sovereignty of ukraine. for now, china stands firmly by russia and there is concern about beijing providing weapons to moscow. that was a fund align warren today that, that woods and she said significantly, harm the relationship. why has the ease of our fail to define red lines in china support to russia and the consequences of overstepping them? would that not be a good way to increase pressure on beijing? it may be, but it's not clear to me that increasing pressure envisioning in that fashion will make them more likely to come to the negotiating table. i think china is also dealing with a domestic audience that very much sees china on the rise. china is

a growing global player and international relations, but it's also very sensitive to, to pressure campaigns into allegations which china's own government has fostered. invited people that china can be a victim at the hands of the west. so it's not clear to me that your red lines is the way forward with putting pressure on china to bring to the negotiating table. however, i think the us in europe has been unequivocal in saying that there would be consequences if china entered into conflict as an active player by supporting rushes, military activities through weapons sales. so i think china can then assume where it to do that, that the u. s, and that would be prepared to love to leverage very, very strong financial penalties on china at a time when china is trying to restart its own economy after a coven closures and absolutely does not need a tighter financial situation to be in. yeah, there is a sense in china that

a russian defeat or anything interpreted as such, would in a way be seen as a win for the united states. is it possible that that is then not necessarily in china's interest? i think it's definitely in china's interest to see an end to this conflict. china is really on the defensive when it comes to this conflict, whether or not i've seen it as a win for the west or a winfrey ukraine. i think that that is secondary to china's interest in creating a better relationship with you so that it can continue on its path of financial and economic growth. so how do you see china's role evolving than in this conflict? i think the china could take the next step of talking to president lensky, and entering is more of an active convener and mediator. however,

i think the china assess, is that neither nor actually lensky are ready to sit around now and come to a compromise negotiation. so i think trying to taking a bit of a wait and see approach, the conflict is still playing out on the ground with absolutely horrific consequences, which i think china is well aware of and doesn't want to drive on forever. but it's the same time, i don't think it's planning to take such an active role in mediating or convening the parties to the conflict at a time when it seems that they are not willing to compromise. murray daniel's the managing director of the age of science policy institute. thank you so much for all those very interesting insight. thank ah president emanuel am i call france has made no secret of his desire for europe and france to take on a greater role on the international stage. his visit to china can be seen as another example of his ambition to cement his position as

a global statesman. but at home protests against his controversial pension reforms are putting him under intense political pressure. o. thursday saw the 11th day of nationwide protests and strikes. demonstrators stormed the offices of a major financial multinational and parents to protest against my cause. plan to raise the retirement age. from 62 to 64, hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets across the country again. from testers, have bound to continue the demonstrations until my con agrees to put the plan on hold. we can now speak to an elizabeth montez. she is a french journalist who works for the telegraph and joins me now from paris. amazement a while mcgraw is touring china at home. he faces. what is probably the biggest

challenge of his presidency. what is he doing to solve it? what she is doing? she, sol versus basically hope that the protesters will tire of projecting before he gives up on the bill. it is not necessarily a good strategy. he sent his prime minister to talk with you today, and i was a day of but well, there was supposed to be a date all the units day before yesterday. and it ended up as a stand off after one hour of talks. whether you are you saying that it was impossible to talk with a prime minister and he's a big bowl of the prime minister saying what we've told for an hour and not 5 minutes, which is in fulton race. the importance of the prime minister is used to be the head of the parish transport a system unethical. she has experienced with negotiating with unions, but notion i told in a nationwide setting and, oh, she has done everything that she could do. but at the end of the day,

the vision of the, the 64 year old age retirement age has been seen as a limit that colby crossed by both him under my corporate doesn't want to stand out by you. you the, you use who say that the, that limit is, is it has got to disappear. and it's probably the way to get to complete failure because out many aspects of the bill that could have been sort of raised instead of that in terms of various conditions in which you could actually retire before. because you had a punch, a career that was physically difficult because you still to do, you still to raise children many things, but it's, it's external and it's not looking like a thing to get better at any time soon yet. and my call argues that this was absolutely necessary, doesn't he? the constitutional counsel will rule on the validity of this reform next week. how do you think this is going to play out? old 14th of april, there will be

a ruling from the constitutional council and the likelihood is that they will not get off the bill, but they will take provisions out of it. and there are people in paris who say that some of those provisions were put there just so that the constitutional council would find something to get rid of that. what the constitutional counselors do to be faced with is a request from $270.00 m. p 's for a referendum in which both the population and enough m. p. 's are they have bait? i have made a request for doesn't largely enough empties and it needs 5000000 signatures in the country. quite honestly. um, they have 9 months to gather those signatures and they will gather much more than $5000000.00. you had one and a half 1000000 people in the street. these people have families, it would be a complete failure and it would be a protracted failure because for 9 months that the process is going on, the bill is suspended. ok, so i think you do, i don't see a good a good issue for the president. and i think the only thing you should do is

withdraw the bill of because having 9 months of sort of do campaigning going on in the country where he's trying to get anything else done. would be almost impossible . but these protests have become about much more than just a piece of legislation. haven't they? yes. oh, the if the president introduced a bill that he talked about in his program in his bathroom during the day is the rear reaction campaign. but he's introducing this at a time when we've been hit by a sort of straw inflation lead the prospect of an economic crisis. because there's no worry it. what happens is all the, becoming a balance has been upset by the war in ukraine and before that, by the expenses of cobit. and so the, the of the real and, you know, people are big basically saying we are afraid. we already bearing the brunt of, of the economy crisis because people say over 77 percent inflation and brought with us. if you take into account things like coals and computers,

stuff that you can very well not buy every other day. and you can, you can certainly sort of do pushback and, and what people pay 30 percent 40 percent more is full foodstuffs. i east of you need to buy every day and unfold heating and in a tricity which also something you need every day. so there's a feeling of disconnect and there's a feeling that the president does not listen to the people. how has the opposition and mainly far right, lee or marine la pan, who is that she's a woman of the people been seizing this moment then? well, money lipper, there's been a cold giving her as a clear winner of the run off of a presidential election if it were held today. it doesn't mean you know that she will win in 27, assuming michael stays all. but it still is something that should worry everyone, and a what she's done during the some time the sequence is in part of which is acting

reasonable, saying what it is agreed with you saying they're all i areas of that bill that we can agree with. and being states were in lake and she instructed her him, he's not to sort of shout to cole, with a man with wearing ties. and the women were jackets, and, you know, look like we already to govern baltic. and meanwhile you have the hall, right? quality of the coalition of new posts under your middle school, and they shouted in parliament, the interrupted speakers, they tabled about to 20000 amendments knowing full well that that was basic if any booster and, and they've been saying, well, legitimacy is in the street, it is not in parliament, which is seditious when you think about it. and when you're in a parliamentary system. so we, we are in the real, sort of political crisis, drops legally, the president can do what he wants, but he's not going to have a good time after that. yeah, we have to wrap this up, but i do want to ask you if micron can survive,

that's politically well do. that's the question we all ask and we're not sure. but even if he survives it, even if you raisins it out, even if he stays home, he's a lame duck and he's going to be a lame duck for 4 years. and that really is not a comfortable situation to be a journalist analyst, it can take thank you so much for ada ah, and over in the united states, another challenger has joined the race to replace presidential widen and the white house environmental lawyer, robert f. kennedy junior has thrown his hat into the ring to become the democratic nominee and the 2024 election. kennedy is the nephew of president john f. kennedy and son of attorney general robert of kennedy, or both assassinated in the 1960 s. he's a controversial figure in recent years, he has become a leading figure and the u. s. anti vaccination movement spreading conspiracy theories about the dangers vaccines opposed to children

that makes 2 official contenders and the running for the democratic nomination for more weakness be to gail and drew coast of the $538.00 politics podcast. galen. good to see you. so the field of candidates is slowly widening. robert j. kennedy de robert f. kennedy junior, a quite controversial figure out what can you tell us about him? so i think something to keep in mind here is that you know, the field of democratic challengers to terabyte and now it's at the tier which is marianne williamson and r k. junior. neither of those candidates should be considered, you know, real challenges to the setting president there, fringe characters in american life. and there is certainly a friend characterized within democratic politics. you know, i, when you just look at the polling straight up, you see that folks like mary and williams said are get a single digits. and the polling with basically no competition for

a left blank on job items. wow. i would say r f k junior probably has even last resonance with democratic voters simply because, for example, the way that code has been politicized in the united states over the past 3 years. an anti back thing stands is not going to appeal to democrats, who are far more likely to embrace the vaccines. in response to coven, you know, this is probably more of a message that republicans would be willing to hear. however, he's running in the democratic primaries. so this whole campaign is a little bit confusing and probably shouldn't be taken too seriously when thinking about, you know, president biden's future prospects. yeah. he joined self help author, marianne williamson. you mentioned her in there who once claimed that the only way to defeat trump would be by channeling love. what will it really take to keep a democrat in the white house? you know, i think it's a difficult question at this point because at this point we don't know whether or

not trump is going to be the republican nominee. we assume that he is the front runner, and we do assume, but joe biden will run for a 2nd turn. now, what would it take when you look at 2020, basically, the way that joe biden did, at least in part, is by winning independent. trump had one independent tailored clinton in 2016 and, you know, joe biden reversed those fortunes 4 years later. and i think you can see that right now biden is trying to position himself to do that again. in some way, it's happening towards the center, unimportant issues where he's seen as weak among the general electorate se on immigration or crime, for example. and you can see from his positioning that biting himself does not particular we're worried about losing a democratic primary to a progressive party is overwhelmingly behind. and even if they do have doubts about this age, he's really thinking about a general election in, you know, recently how he responded to crime policies in washington dc. and also getting

strict are on the border in terms of turning migrant away. and what sort of detention policies the administration might use when titled 42, which was a pad direct era rule that was allowing the united states to turn away migrant, that the border will expire in. yes. and would it be a good call for him to run again looking ahead looking at a general election that might pitt him against donald trump. does he stand a chance? you know, would it be a good call? i guess not the only person who can make that decision is really and the pulling at this point is so early. it's hard to put all that much stock in it. when you look today at general election polling of a rematch, or by versus trump in 2024, you see biden on average, outperforming trumps by 2 points. but again, the reality is that because the circumstances on the ground can change so much between now and november 2024. i don't know that it's all that worth while thinking

that that's how the election would turn out because it's going to hinge on things like the economy, right. we're in a volatile situation. there's a be able inflation on the market, and that will be a strong indicator in terms of whether or not biden is able to win reelection. you know, the reality here is that there are a lot of things that are going to be outside of biden's control. you know, another thing that's outside of our control is how old he is. and we've seen voters, both democratic voters and the general public had concerns about him being too old to run for reelection, you know, in pulling even with them a democratic party. we have seen them that a majority of democrats has just the he shouldn't run a gun. the problem is that democrats have difficulty settling on who the alternative should actually be. so it seems at this point, not all that unlikely that we will have a rematch. trump bided in 2024 right now, you might give it to biden, but really like, it's all too soon to be making those kinds of call. fascinating stuff. i would love

to keep talking to you, but we have to leave it here because we're running out of time galen, through the host of the 538 project forecast. pleasure speaking to you. thanks a lot. take our and that is our time, but make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch with us. small our team on twitter at dw, and myself at nicole underscore. 40 for now though, the entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day with ah, with

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