does not from the me, i had, she was scared that some one from mainstream society would come and tell us to be quiet isn't and that we weren't allowed to do these sorts of things in germany and what have you thought she was afraid of that? because she still had the same fear. she had an outage message from, from, from, from also i young and, and cancel money. toast. good, wonderful. cool. we lived in an ordinary apartment building. we were the only cindy they're coming from. but we drew attention because we looked a little different. anybody, my mother and my aunt didn't stand out too much. but my grandmother did much with her. she was the only dark looking person and i was and she wore long skirts. but otherwise, we always tried to blend in to her and not reveal who we really were often bundled . we were reserved anxious and cautious. you know, maybe the decent we tried not to attract attention to not to do anything wrong with, and to always be upstanding. new schools, often these uncertain own design,

ah, the west german media selectively portrayed roma and cindy as destitute in the sixty's open racism was still no exception on public television. that's flemister, alexey gallagher, fountain. v. induce wagner income. dis wagner and come talk to douglas voskus sheets will need to go. not either rhinoceros guard of cuba briefing this folder for ben newman underwood. adults yell and element of order. oh, these are kinda big and beautiful. in these millions, egan swung soldiers from publishing that song on finished north from one to help look up for little. the notion of cindy and rome are becoming anti social elements or criminals because they had abandoned, their racial purity, was adopted from the self styled racial scientists. of the nazi regime, as was the terminology after 1945, the physician hammon, i nodded became

a key advisor to the west german authorities. essentially, he built on the research work conducted by the nazi era racial hygiene and demographic biology center. in a book published in 1965, he still referred to cynthia roma as bastardize, primitive and devious. his claims were based on files compiled by the nazis scientific racism specialists. if i use theme, the scandal, news is thus d awesome for short, outrageously the so called race scientists were not among those prosecuted after 1945 visions. and it's equally scandalous that these files, which have rightfully been termed as documents for planning a genocide act, were not turned over to archive authorities even, but remained in use by the perpetrators of the time. in dawn, they basically picked straight back up from where the allies had forced them to seize their work for a couple of weeks. or pablo lunk, it's one of 200 she earlier today,

those records compiled by nazi scientists are stored in the federal archives. and berlin in the 19 sixty's ham and arnold's records were passed on to sophia, had at the university of tubing and i had had likewise once worked at the notorious racial hygiene center with state backing. she used these not the accounts to published a study about the creases on the hands of cynthia and roma. and what they supposedly revealed this race, a pseudo science, was put to an end in the early 19 eighties, albeit not voluntarily on the part of air had on september 1st 1981 survivors of the genocide in their descendants occupied the basement of tubing ins, university to secure the release of the incriminating files, they found genealogy trees that stretched on for several meters, featuring degree of mixed blood alongside the names of individuals and romani, when it was the 1st time they had physical proof of their people's persecution.

the bella da 0. your beloved, this is ben han. good god, rest his soul. bernhardt who was in our streets when every one was gas. yukon too. and he we have. this is too much so much the dog rest is old. osman o spell bound to my father. my father took less good issues, mads me and oberst hands al gore stammered, fee. as you mama, mama says my mom doesn't get and that's me is i stop. this is my eldest brother. this is my new law. and this is all my younger brother and archive, documenting a program of murderous persecution, family trees, photographs, so called anthropological examinations. all records of

a systematic sensors and genocide. they go mama. oh i hence to revise became one of the most popular since musicians in west germany valley they got they got in the guitarist and the medalist as nephew romani. oh okay. oh, can't ship them in. we have been muggy briefly when i was desperate to perform on stage with my uncle, other i admired him so marcia, so i really gave it my old and put in a lot of practice. and in the late 19 seventies romani vice went on to join the famous hence she vice quintet in this poor thing was it was, it was a way for me to prove myself and to express myself with.

then you don't have explained we were on tour, and now trailers, people would say things like that, but look, he come the gypsies or hide everything away. but once they realize we would those 20, the famous group who were there for performance, then they loved us off the tv on radio, the press when everybody showed up them with that that really drove the difference home to me. here i was just another gypsy bit there, i was the star, and once i left the stage i was the gypsy again. ah, in 1979, the hymns should've eyes quintet had a performance and damage that the city's church authorities were hosting a sim t in realm of music festival. an event aimed at fostering inter cultural relations

. and the 1st of it's kind of a me, sharon, not an item. that's it. all of our high touch, i recalled an old saying that bears a great truth in a country in which gypsies rome is one where freedom range for our country without gypsy is one without freedom. and let's see going. i good. i'll kind of like blinds you're so welcome moment, not just to day, but always harder. so not in a more than 10000 people attended the music festival. money at the conference you people were looking for new encounters and meeting new people. they were ready to open up when i'm there were a number of birds with non cindy people too, who were engrossed in animating conversations

with each other as a nightstand to me. it was a milestone. we were being seen and heard, and not only on a musical level national movie college. why? oh well go not just a day, but only several weeks after the music festival, a number of roma families moved to darmstadt, darmstadt, stunned in my good woods oquendo and as ever the my birth certificate sighted darmstadt as my city of birth and listed camping ground as my address in my family had experienced displacement and persecution in serbia in the former yugoslavia to for photo. that was one of the reasons why they came to germany back there myself

in storage and good collins. and they were looking for a better life. and thinking that germany would be more open towards them to live until, but it wasn't head design can, was a bar in it. the local authorities assigned daniel van if his family, a house in a middle class residential area. we've on his my down quite a finished involved me one mostly my. the family of mine had 1st. they were grateful that they didn't have to live in a trailer anymore. hm. my family was simply glad to have a solid roof over their heads and running water. distance for their basic sanitary needs were met. they were able to wash and eat normal meals and have a room for themselves home for the have them come. so that was a relief and i had oakland lesson but the neighbors were not so happy to see the family moving in. there were soon official complaints and the police were

repeatedly called in while the media reported on issues with what they called vagrants. those i just have to come up. why didn't you come and see for yourself what we do and who we are and why didn't you sit at our table and get to know us england. instead, you just hold a black curtain to and told yourselves we are, the bad guys is like doesn't to person in 1982 local opposition to their presence turned violent when a bomb went off on the night of january, 2nd, right outside their house. if you live here right? yes. sure. nice. i used to live here too. and that house is live. yes. my family lived there. when the attack happen, i are happy remember coverage? no none. oh yes, of course. yeah. yeah. yeah. i'm one of the people who were seriously injured back then. that was you. it was so many years ago. are you

aware of what happened back then? yes, i was. but what did you witness? as all i know is that if someone had been standing in the kitchen or in the hallway, they wouldn't survive ganga. listen, read the written that melinda. listen. name is a blast. work us up to. that's my bedroom window right there. like the window was broken and there was glass in my curtains. that was something a believer doesn't. miasca laughed. the explosion blew the front door of the van of each family off its hinges and took the windows out. shards of glass flew through the house to go, oh, he's a lot at night. i remember the smell from and the loud bang. the sound of my mother screaming and the children by. i don't think the men were around. we ran outside. i remember it like it was yesterday i heard yelling, didn't set for the g word, all sorts of things like gas them and burn them. but and she

a t stuff then. ready then stone started to fly. bunstein, i think they'd been hold out of the sidewalk. one of them hit me and i know this, it hit me hard, risky get hoffman. the individuals responsible for the crime. we're never identified. their little crap. we were lucky. just lucky. i found, look up in the 1970s west german santian rama formed their own civil rights movement. the hunger strike in tahoe with their 1st major campaigns guiding even by the yahoo. woodcock afternoon. sky was a musician who made the journey to the concentration camp memorial site boat, etc. oh, yeah, finally. yeah. i can,

we change the delivery to an old song about the gypsies life being the life to me. and then it became the anthem of the civil rights movement in germany. shaw side it penny. oh wow, hold it. why does it still not have to pay the human mind? cuz we're just to keep this. oh right. wow. yeah. wow. oh no, not this woman. a runner, anybody over goodnight at river, we were a movement. i felt except at the time we went organized in associations. we were musicians with it. i prefer to going on and off into one. she was dead, but i said they said 1224. see going on gypsy, the record was subtitled, german gypsy songs. we had to refer to this term back then in order to raise awareness, to ensure that it was clear what we were talking about, lead out about if we'd named the album songs of the german romance, what paper would have thought we meant german romanians. it wasn't a common term back then. there were a lot of things that had to change,

but that doesn't happen overnight time. it would take a while to establish it in the public consciousness and answer the call. thanks. nancy. nancy downs, are you guns in fort us? do diamond lane gates lane? i didn't hear any small diners slide up and walked out good with mileage on a gun in the after the war, the police and west germany continued to single out roma and cindy people for attention, woodcock of chance. he remembers what it was like in humbler standing. we were constantly being pulled over and as a young man, you get a slap from these offices in plain clothes, hunting for an interview. amber,

it's police force had one department dedicated to the city santian rama. they delivered their reports to a national vagrants registry in munich. in 1953, it essentially took charge of monitoring all cynthia and roma living in west germany. we are fastens on the source of the scope of the candles on visor discounts at slight registration when something like this right over there were directives to conduct regular raids on so called gypsies. they'd write down which pets people had. if women were pregnant, they were constantly checking cars for all sorts of things like 10, whether they had ariel's it, it all got pretty bizarre for it. of course. they also registered her deaths and marriages for them. but what's the point of keeping track of pregnant women, or of writing down people's concentration camp numbers and treating them like a special feature, like any other tattoos. it's this dead forest,

goinna gypsy from ashville. i'm it of, and the number that came with it, never, it was it alongside police files kept for criminals, were records of cindy and roma, even if they hadn't done anything wrong. there were orders to destroy the files when the vagrants registry was dissolved in 1965. but the hamburg division continued using its records into the early 19 eighties before transferring them to the state archives where they were exempt from public access to hum none, counsellor humor for them was about them. we did what we'd done and deco in order to make this issue publicly. we went to the noise gum a camp and went on hunger strike until we were given access to the documents. we've paid a high enough price for those files to the authorities were uncompromising when they persecuted us, and they should be equally thorough in disclosing our pass. now to look at only

luckily, the hunger strike only lasted 2 days. then the hamburg government morales relented on and we entered into long negotiations with the course local governments and the state archive. in the end, when we were given permission to view the files, la, subject to all sorts of restrictions. the files that woodcock have chikavsky and his fellow campaigners uncovered and hampered state archive in 1983 are still being evaluated to this day by their organization, the roma. and since a union doesn't give twin duties as, as, as they're like shelves of prescribed books, which i rarely touch on. the more you work on. i'd like to the more you and come as things that are simply incomprehensible. and it's how these things continued after $945.00, that are the truly shocking part of the stories. swishy. in september 1945,

the hamburg authorities calculated that 1628 cent he and roma had lived in the city prior to 940 of those 1135 were deported, murdered or disappeared. that meant $493.00, still had to be alive. so a police unit was formed to watch them. on september 3rd, 1959 hamburg office of criminal investigations made an internal note about what it called the gypsy index destroyed during the war and had now been recreated with the help of federal and regional police authorities in west germany. the index was based on police files gathered during the nazi regime, but the documents were not enough for investigators. in august 1963, the hamburg police visited ham on i know it in order to view his files from the center for racial hygiene. their subsequent report contained the following comment

. we were see the total of 7 micro films with about $2600.00 genealogies that are now being turned into legible, copies and hamburg, just give her munsey, his jacket, might sound silly, but looking at those files, the 1st feeling i experienced was a sense of relief on there we had it in black and white explaining why things had been the way they were you. how fears asked, suspicion hadn't been unfounded. so it hadn't been a simple routine check when they searched to houses and rated out homes called the police showing up at our work places to talk to our bosses of all, take the problems we had when applying for a drivers license, which took a lot longer for us and for them to cover all the extra question and this explained everything less alice, i've done body kil mm. mm. after the defeat of nazi germany to leash mit towards the country with her husband,

tony and his band mere vann. york. me a voice lame. we were young lad that though we wanted to live by dag and so we did me a voice. we wanted our live spec, mainly they were, i had the will to live and to have a nice live. that's all i wanted mine. my name dorothy, who but the trauma of auschwitz kept haunting her day to day life. when you're making dank, whenever i think about my child gets awfully bad, is a shame lunch and i can't sleep at night. they spend the entire night in auschwitz . i can't look at that picture of them. i just can't look tough to anakin day. ah, in 1950 silly schmidt applied for compensation. but officials questioned her story

while using the nazis race. this terminology. after 1943, she was told only so called mixed blood individuals had been deported to auschwitz, whereas so called pure blooded gypsies were only deported to camps if classified as criminals rides about d that them, you know what they said to me one they said i was reichman, i went by reichman back then did the misses right when you couldn't have been sent to a concentration cramp if you're a pure blooded since eva not mixed blood. so, but she said only mixed race. people were kept there by this not true. it's a lie. we were all sent there. when i lived in the office for reparations requested an expert opinion on felicia smith accounts of her persecution and internment, and contacted the vagrant registry center. the official in charge was k. r. guire, a former as us officer. silly schmidt was subsequently told that she had been persecuted, not out of racist motives, but due to her having been

a work shy vagrant and an anti social element. her application for compensation was denied the icing disease fagan message, they only people who regularly wait in on what had happened to the cindy had roma during the nazi regime or the perpetrators themselves ciscano jesus. or, of course, they showed this very narrative device that they hadn't been to ported out of racist motive. awesome. but simply for reasons of crime prevention. and i, this help them achieve to goal of that was zia detergent. who's your eyes to prevent compensation for cindy and roemer and 2nd ending of to protect themselves from criminal prosecution. in 1956 west. germany's highest court ruled that up until 194370 and roma had only ever been persecuted on the grounds of allegedly being antisocial elements. and were as such not eligible for compensation. by the time the ruling was overturned in 1963,

many survivors had already passed away. silly schmidt spent 19 years fighting for compensation. in the end, she would be awarded nothing more than a paltry sum. darmstadt, 19831 year after the bomb attack on johnny of anna, which is home at the time his aunt and uncle lived in the center of town. the city had provided them with the house to in the summer, both families went on vacation together. when they returned to darmstadt, 2 weeks later, the authorities had demolished the house, the gianni of honor, which is relatives lived in it until who comes and says, i never heard from one or 20 link. there is this picture of my aunt lanka standing barefoot in front of the rebel trying to dig out something. it was anything to take with her from it. they destroyed everything,

even personal belongings as all the power they took everything from us. i hum once cannon overcome by severe what was the reason behind the city taking what some people would consider to be a monstrous action, but dashed up to our quarter want. the immediate reason was a risk of the house collapsing, as well as the danger of an infectious disease outbreak here and in the immediate neighbourhood in debt. when gabe lowndes, his houses, the demolition, turned into an international scandal. the newly founded central council of german santian rome are called in a lawyer, law kind is weeks the advantage of other full court. there was no excrement or such liking as had been claimed elsewhere. on the contrary, it was in a perfectly normal, habitable condition of the other. i think the claim that this house posed an epidemic risk was fabricated, published on, and today's the 1st time i've heard that there was a risk of the house collapsing. yeah,

that sounds really dubious. hollinger bygone will the office rock tom that really made us wonder know what next as of what was this country doing to us on what is going on for future. ange carty it is organ when we started worrying that if they can take away the home they had given us, then they could do whatever they want us to. while the family was assigned at new home and darmstadt on wasteland at the edge of the city. daniel van of edge has come a long way since those days. he now runs his own successful business and lives in cologne. this been there, man gordon? daisy mazin goiter has been there. john, i've become the man, i've always wanted to be in johnny, and she, i've become the johnny who can offer little johnny the protection he might not have

always hands on. and i've had to learn how to control my inner child. aland bellis, who is severely traumatized. and vulnerable i'll but he doesn't control me. the hassle diminutive, the adult me lives with my inner child. and yet the man in he is still a child at heart. the lead with him and puts him to hi this mrs. kenton. mother lou ah in 1982, 37 years after the end of the 2nd world war, west, germany finally recognized the mass murder of cynthia and roma as a genocide. a major victory for the community civil rights movement. among its proponents was bologna. gag. the grandfather of julie halley lich

the submission not finished complete by segment. and of course i was inspired by what he and other civil rights activists was the chief for us in the early days. okay. they laid the foundations for us that had not which of course he had to stop eventually, and it's always been a personal issue for me thus far to continue what he could my finish much to it. but there's still so much to set right on the awareness for you off close to daph. julie holly lodge is one of the co founders of the cindy roemer pride initiative. their aim is to make this major ethnic minority who are often overlooked, more visible among permission to put a barn. we want to build a bridge and reach out, and us social media enables us immediately below, even if it's only did ali and they can get to know what to tell us about the land on ken, it's been an a dialer german sunday sir feelers. think a lot of people wonder whether they should still say that i personally believe so.

i have to say it. otherwise people will never learned that we're not just some stereotype or a stigma. my, as they get to know who i am and learn about my identity as a st. aysa, we just want to show who we are movies and mm moon ah, into the conflicts with seroquel. as worse of war, of aggression against ukraine raises on the battle field, it is also using information happening to promote off narrative in a conflict on special i'm unit security conference. why, of the high level panel help him

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