ah, 25 years ago with the stroke of the pen piece arrived in northern ireland, the good friday agreement ended decades of bloodshed known as the troubles in belfast. peace wall separating catholics and protestants still stand as a warning from a bygone era, artifacts from one of the world's most ambitious endeavours at peace. i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day, ah . on good friday 25 years ago. uh for years of negotiations. and against many expectations on a storage agreement was reached late in depth and 25 years ago. i think we did something special on the last 25 years of being opened on the many arms.

what one thing for certain was we're all on a better place. i believe the greatest heroes were the people of northern ireland and their political lead. also coming up for the past 3 days, beijing showed the world what a full scale attack on taiwan could look like. so what are china's neighbors going to do about it in any escalation could potentially embroil other regional countries . but i think this is also a case where if a regional countries are concerned, then it's a matter of bring this up to beijing as spacing as the side that is engaging and much reaction. and the has to be some thinking about ways to discourage a beijing from escalating ah, a to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day in northern ireland, the british territory marking the 25th anniversary of the land market,

good friday peace agreement that ended 3 decades of bloodshed on april 10th, 1998. the irish and british prime minister signed the d. o, which was later ratified in the referendum the d. o set up a new government that would share power between protestant and catholic factions. northern ireland is part of the united kingdom, but many in the catholic minority resented british rule and wanted to be part of the sovereign republic of ireland were now there are worries that breaks it may have put that hard one piece at risk d, w 's beer good master night has more from belfast. lately hold boxing club used to be staunchly protestant to day. young boxes from all areas of belfast are allowed to train here, including catholics. young people in northern ireland often grew up lodge. he

segregated with catholics and protestants. going to different schools and he had them, kids were involved with each other. ha ha. and here that's his word of got to meet each other, neither their mits, they would never of not each other just wanted a district fail. thought all the young men and boys here are aware of potential threats. if you're pos in certain areas that are conflict or partisan. um, if you, if they know your protestant, they might not like it. but most of the time it's not like that. they're sort of um, calm dynamo and they're more forgiving. just around the corner though protestant militants have being celebrated. it's a loyalty to britain that defines the so called loyalist paramilitaries, but still have a grip on areas like this. some protestants are angry because they fear that their british identity is being strict away and the brakes it is bring in northern ireland, closer to the republic of ireland. but on the other side of the divide,

many catholics, a hoping for re unification with the republic of ireland. but she and used to be a member of the i r a. he spent 18 years in prison and was released under the piece process. today he is sure that a united island can be achieved entirely peacefully. what i think brag said has dawn, has accelerate the discussion and a bit around our united ireland there. because we have seen that the, the day in m. o and the driving force behind brackets. it was english nationalism throughout belfast and other areas in northern ireland, so called peace ball, separate protestant and catholic areas. bombay street is an, a catholic carrier just behind one of these walls. since breaks it, residents have noticed, arise intention to tar sienna. that's caused even more debate sanity, say, to the community. once practically came along,

people children that read little's liam's and yet or something, some politicians are blocking the regional assembly over breaks it, leaving a dangerous political void. that is a concern. if there is an access to exclusively democratic and peaceful means, expressing a political views that there is m a certain logic and in some people's minds to the use of violence to express political. he points half northern ireland march 25 years of the good friday agreement. it's hoped that for the younger generation which grew up with relative pace, the troubles confined to history. my 1st guest tonight is neil o dordy, a professor of political science at the university of galway in the republic of ireland deal. it's good to have you with us to night to 25 years on from the good friday agreement. what would you say has been the biggest change in northern

ireland the end of larry still organized violence. and after the agreement was signed, there were fears that dissident republicans might manage to racket toward that loyalist filess. my resume and violence has continued, but at an extraordinarily low level compared to the level that was there during the troubles. so it's been extremely successful in, in ending that large scale conflict. that's the big achievement. in addition, the new institutions of government that were sent up are not functioning at the moment, but for much of the time, they have been functioning. and they brought together parties that it was called could never work together. so im paisley leader of the democratic unionist party, a fiery creature who, who it was. paul would never compromise with. nationalists ended up in government governing alongside might make an assertion,

fain. deputy 1st minister who had was believed to being an ira commander. you talk about power sherry is there, but whether it's functioning that up for debate, what do they need in your opinion for these institutions? to work smoothly. well the great difficulty is that if one of the 2 main parties and government pulls out, the government ceases to function. and that was because well, looks like we have lost our connection with neil. are we going to try them if one of the major meal can you hear me?

yes, i can't. okay. we, we lost is there for just a moment. apologize for that, but i'm glad you're still with us now. i mean we, we've seen trouble on monday at march by hard line republicans are, are extremists on either side of the political divide in northern ireland, at all relevant to where the country is going. or are they now out wires in the true were since they are to this point, they still remain outliers. they try a location to disrupt. they're able to do something very minor light that you know, half dozen prattled arms that were thrown to day. but this is very much on the margins and it is not comparable to the kind of vinyl that took place before the agreement was signed. i wanna talk about brakes for a moment. how much has brakes it impacted? the situation in northern ireland a branch that has

a completely decent situation. if it were not for frank, it's highly likely that the power sharing institutions would still be in place and there would be a functioning to valve cover to northern ireland. so great, that is the reason for the current instability in crisis. and that said, with the recent windsor framework falling on modifying the northern ireland protocol. it looks like things may stabilize again in the next year or 2, it may take some more time yet. where do you think the pressure was coming from most to make sure that breaks it did not destroy the good friday power agreement? i'm wondering, was it coming from the republic of ireland, northern ireland, the u. k. or from the united states? i think the irish government was crucially important and they convinced the

european union the european commission that this was a vital issue for ireland as a member of state that a hired border and not be re established on the island of ireland. and that the good friday agreement to be protected and old old, the good friday agreement does not. specifically a, you know, the european union was not a direct involved in negotiation. nonetheless, joint membership of the united kingdom and the republic of ireland in the european union was a really important framework for that agreement. and when the payment was signed, it was understood that all of these new institutions would operate in a context in which ireland and the u. k. were both members of the european union with the united kingdom's exit from the european union. it raised obstacles to the continuing functioning of these institutions. and of these very easy cross border relations within ireland. and now we've, we've had 25 years of the good friday peace agreement. there is an entire

generation of people in northern ireland who have no memory of the troubles. and how does northern irish society reconcile the past with the future of northern ireland? but the leg, the despite the fact that a whole generation has no direct memory, the legacy of the conflict remains highly contentious. and the british government at the moment as bringing forward legislation that would and the possibility of prosecution for any thing that had taken place. any offences started taking place during the troubles. this is motivated primarily eat, eat, eat, by a desired me. thanks. paramilitaries from republican a loyalist organizations. and so there's universal opposition to it in with ireland . but they're also voice the saying, and i think right, quite reasonably that although it's,

it's important to deal with legacy. it's important to that, that victims have have a sense that some kind of justice has been delivered even if people are not prosecuted. that it is also important for society to move on beyond that stage and for politics, no less political tying to be consumed by disputes over the past and disagreement over the past near low doroty from the university of gaul. we're, we appreciate your time and your insights on this anniversary. thank you. thank you . ah. china has wrapped up 3 days of military exercises around taiwan. it was 3 days of an enormous show of force that drew a response from the us. the pentagon sent a guided missile destroyer through contested parts of the south shine of sea,

washington and ty pay both calling on beijing to exercise restraint. but the message, it was loud and clear, this is what china can do and would do if and when it decides to make a move against taiwan simulated trikes off chinese military on taiwan. china dubbed it, joined, thought in settling the self, rhode island of taiwan that it claims as its own. taiwan sees the ad defense unit, closely monitored the encroaching forces. it selfish and see dozens of chinese at gov, crossed the median line of the taiwan strait with no impatient will escalate the situation. the hours he on forces will uphold our sovereignty and the men had our nation, no security. yeah, compost, rational and assault form manner. meanwhile, our air defense,

the illness half remained on high alert. the military exercise was a demonstration of pigeons. anger over the taiwanese president's visit to the united states. the united states distributed the card for china to showed he strength, initial force. the united states deployed a naval destroyer into waters, claimed by beaching, triggering board belly cost frederick from china. tensions are rising in the region and that evidence of taipei and ching i have do. i did opinions on china's that he sent military exercises hipa law bashing that at the most common people probably aren't afraid, at least the mean these and being debt. everyone thinks that china had certainly lots thought about it because they don't need to start over with a company. can use other methods to pressure taiwan. ha k your she had to provide or just exam and analysis. i've been china clinton's on

a very normal thing. happy because closely i need to show our attitude to go and we also need to show our ability to react like this weekend or the family. or jessica . china's military pressure on taiwan continues to intensify and it's up to tie faith and it's de facto u. s. ally, to guess, feather china's neck, show a 4th will just be a drill will enjoy now by bradley bowman. he is a senior director of the center on the military and political power at the foundation for the defense of democracies in washington. d. c. brad, it's good to have you back on the program. so we've seen what 3 days of military muscle flexing by the chinese, around taiwan. some at the pentagon have said that this is an example of china over reacting to the situation as it is right now. how would you describe thanks up to you, john? yeah, i would describe this as a, a very significant,

aggressive destabilizing and irresponsible exercise. i say that when you look at the quantity of ships and aircraft and bald their activities and their locations, you know this, this is a significant deal. and what is beijing up to here? i would say they're obviously rehearsing an air and naval blockade. one of the forms of aggression that many of us have thought we could see they're clearly trying to implement a. busy long term campaign of provocation, i would say to where down ty, one's forces. i think they're eager to see how the u. s. and taiwan and japan for that matter, respond. and i think they're also trying to isolate taiwan by raising the cost of a gauging politically with taiwan. so puts americans and others on the horns of a dilemma. you know, do we want to, i counter the effort to isolate the tie ones president and give them opportunities, do these exercises and, and i think there are a couple of all these objectives really at the same time, you know, we've spoken of numerous times about the situation to surround the taiwan it you've

said that u. s. policy should be to turn tie one into a porcupine so much so that china would not dare to attack. is that happen? you know, there's, it's, as a great question. there is significant and growing bipartisan consensus in washington, which i think is very positive regarding the need to deter aggression from china against taiwan. you know, particularly with the lessons of ukraine in mind, that it's easier to and better to turn deter aggression than deal with. it's more costly, consequences for something that could have been avoided. but as saying that, and making political pronouncements in washington is easy implementing is hard and there's reason to believe that the united states is struggling to implement this. you know, as of a few months ago, there's more than a $19000000000.00 backlog and delivered weapons for taiwan. and just on friday, something i was making a big deal out of on twitter is that we finally announce that we had

a contract for delivering $400.00 harpooned missiles to taiwan. but that came almost 2 and half years after congressional notification regarding that sale. i mean, 2 and a half years, we basically prepared the d day invasion in the little bit more than 2 and a half years, the largest and famous landing in human history. so a little bit pathetic. i'd say that it would take that long just to get the contract established much less before bending. mattel will rata good words. yeah, yeah. well, maybe explained, explain to us how was it possible then that washington is dragging its feet like this? you know, i think for a long time the united states could get away with kind of that bureaucratic silliness and inertia. i think some people in the pentagon and state department who are, you know, patriotic and good intention didn't get the memo if you will, that this isn't the 1990 s anymore. and that we are confronting an adversary in beijing. as unlike anything the united states is confronted in our modern history. and so i think we haven't yet aligned ends and means here,

which in my book is strategic failure. i want us to address for a moment, europe, the us and china in an interview, the french president, micron said that the paradox would be that overcome with panic. we believe that we are just america's followers. and he goes on to say the question that europeans need to answer is it in our interest to accelerate on taiwan know. the worst thing would be to think that we, europeans, must become followers on this topic and take our cue from the us agenda and a chinese over reaction. i mean, those are some, some strong words coming from paris. there i, how do you explain microns comments? considering that france in europe still rely on the american security umbrella. right. and then when you look at defense spending of, by france and frankly,

some of other european allies, they're not even honoring their own commitments to defend spending. so it's a little bit interesting, you know, i would say this is not my crohn's finest moment. i say this is someone who's a big believer nato. there's an asset, not a liability for us. i'm a trans line assist, but this is not a good moment from a cron. frankly, i think it's deeply disappointing and short sighted that he would make these comments and really suggest that the outcome and taiwan is not of concern to france or europe. i think that's clearly false. i think both europeans and americans have interest in principles at stake there. and i think, you know, america is not looking for blind followers in europe, right. we understand that their sovereign states, they will make their own decision. but what we are looking for, i would say not trying to speak my country, but just from my perspective is we're looking for allies to recognize that we have common interest and democratic principles of stake. and that we're going to be more effective in dealing with those if we act together. and i think micron is really undermining that unity. and i think this is a gift to g in the c, c p. i mean,

they love this french foreign policy. why it's not complicated because it's dividing the west, and beijing wants us to be divided because that enables them to victimize their neighbors more effectively. but what about this before going out of time? what about if we take this on this perspective? that macaroni knows exactly what you're talking about and believe exactly what you're saying. but he grated this interview, knowing that that is what they want to hear in beijing. in other words, he's trying to make sure that they're happy while he's there to get some business deals done. but at the end of the day, he knows that france is with the us. no matter what. yeah, you know, that words matter right him, he's not the 1st politician to say one thing to one a one group another another, but words matter and have consequences. they can have worn piece consequences. and there i suggested a couple of things more important than france trying to re live the glory days when it was a great power or trying to get new business deals. you know it's, it's called democracy. jen jang,

hong kong south china sea principles. and i think some things are more important than that, and i think maybe a micron. i, i and some of these narrow interests of law side of the bigger things. i think he's done damage the trans atlantic alliance with these comments. bradley bowers, always bravery. appreciate your time and your valuable insights. good clarity when we need it most. thank you. thank you. ah, a pub in southern england was the arena for one of the sporting calendars, lesser known events on good friday players from all across the world met to compete in the 2023 marble world championships. take a look. spectators gathered in the sunshine to celebrate a rather unusual good friday tradition. the world's best models play as rolled up for the annual championship at the greyhound pop in sussex,

reportedly 1st stage at the same location back in 1588. this year's event hit at 13 teams in near claudia tauriel combat on a 6 foot wide concrete circle cupboard in sand. the rules are simple. $49.00 marbles are placed inside the circle with place receiving a point for each one they knocked out of the ring. with the shooting motto, cult totally, the 1st team to reach 25 points is then declared the winner. so what is the secret to being a good model player? a good player really needs to have that 630. what time to actually hold the marble of flicky strike. i say similar to playing poll aust, luca know where to leave your tale as you would do a cable. so does anything else help along the way? how about some lubrication? the only lubrication you need is verbal lubrication. a few

b as does help along the way. and this year's final, england's black dog boozers overcame their perennial counterparts. m. c. at could be a good from germany to clinch the greatest actual it in the sports of marbles for an 18th time. ah, what easter celebrations are coming to an end for christians around the world. but many of the traditions that we associate with the season they actually go back to pre christian times here in europe. and the same is true of smith. guess dingus, that's a polish festivity or festival when boys traditionally pour water on the girls who they like in a modern take on this ritual in a town and eastern poland. fire trucks doused, the crowds with water hoses. yes you're seeing is believing. polish migrants also

took the tradition to parts of the united states where it's known as dingus day. so might call it a water fight. others are traditional but yet wet way to mark the end of easter. never seen a easter bunny with a fire hose before with a day's almost done the conversation. it continues online. you'll find us on twitter either it dw, she can follow me on twitter at brent golf t v. and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody ah ah

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