ah ah ah ah, this is dw news live in from berlin to night, french president, a manual mac cron lays out his vision of europe and gets heckled in the process during a state visit to the netherlands macaroni tried to emphasize economic reform in the e. u, but protestors interrupted calling, micron president of hypocrisy. not democracy. also coming up tonight after dozens

of classified documents surface online, the pentagon is now in damage control, searching for the source of the leaks and reviewing the risks now to us national security. anti wans defense ministry says chinese warships and aircraft are still operating around the island a day after beijing declared in into its wargames, european union, opposing any attempt to break, tie one's status quo. ah . eyebrow. gov is good to have you with us french president emanuel micron has laid out a blueprint for a new economic model for europe in a speech delivered today in the netherlands micron, who courted controversy in recent days with comments about taiwan and said that he believes europe needs to become economically sovereign in an era where there are

more countries which do not share it's values. he is currently on an official visit to the netherlands. now here is some of what micron said today, defending sovereignty doesn't mean to shy away from all lies. it means that we must be able to choose our partners and shape our own destiny. reason being, i would say, a mere witness of the dramatic evolution of his word. this means that we must strive to be a rule makers, prisons on the whole, take us. and this, we can do it in a cooperative manner in keeping with that, i'll say for it of openness and partnership. i want to get our corresponded jag pair. he is in brussels, he covered the speech forest to day. jack, was there anything in microns speech to reassure those unsettled by his recent remarks about taiwan?

not really to be on his plan. he wasn't there trying to make a speech. you know, to cover those comments. as you say about taiwan. he, he made those comments to the press on a flight in china, where he said that your shouldn't be america's followers on the issue of taiwan, taiwan. or is it the island nation that china wants to wants to retake into its feel like direct sphere of influence and they've not ruled out doing that by force . the americans are against that, but microns. so sorta said we shouldn't be necessarily just taking the leadership of the united states on this. and they've been us senators who said, listen, we shouldn't, perhaps we should not consider support in europe and ukraine. so much on the, you know, the, the warren, european soil. now he didn't really mention that during his speech in the netherlands today, but he did talk about european sovereignty, the need to lead for itself. and that was sort of an interesting thing that happened that he didn't directly address those taiwan comments and the questions

that came afterwards at the, at the nexus institute in the netherlands. nobody asked him about it either when a lot of us were hoping that someone would it. so what was his main message then today? so what the messaging that came out was was similar to what micron has stood for politically for pretty much his whole career, which is the idea that further european integration, firstly on things like capital markets, which means money flowing around different companies and in the markets are also on industrial integration. so what micron thinks is that in order to do the green transition, and i will add that this isn't only macro, this is broadly most of the rest of the european union thinking and planning is around list. is that for things like the tree green transition, europe should try and win itself of the dependency of other countries. he talked about the e. u not being a customer any longer. so, and not buying solar panels, not buying the materials that are needed to produce batteries for the green

transition, etc. and this is something that he's been really, really key on throughout his entire presidency. and indeed his full political career. he laid it out quite clearly during this speech on this visit to the netherlands today for and that message may have been overshadowed somewhat by the interruptions that took place to day. i understand or we, we saw it happened live, the speech was interrupted by protesters at one point. what was their message? yeah, and therefore salons of the, of the, in the auditorium there, there were a few protests as holding flags and saying that he was the president of hypocrisy. the micron kind of batted off. he said listen, i want to answer your questions. i want to be able to have a talk about the things, the issues that those people wanted to raise. but there was so much noise and there was quite a lot of shouting that in the end. it like the security, remove some of those demonstrators, but it is a reflection on how much pressure he is under himself, both domestically for his plan to try and raise the pension agent fronds,

which we see motive to protest, bubbling over and rotting across france. specifically in harrison in recent weeks, but also that is that sort of domestic issue is sort of weakening him on the international stage when he's talking about these european issues. when he's struggling for support on his domestic issues. you w jack baird with the latest and i from brussels. jack is always thank you in the united states, the, by the administration to night reeling from the fall out of the most significant leak of government secrets. since the wiki leaks back in 2010. as the search for the source of the leak continues, washington is busy with damage control the revelation suggest that the u. s. fide on key allies, including israel and south korea on tuesday, so dismissed a significant number of the files calling them fake. the pentagon says it's ordered an internal review describing the leak as a very serious national security risk on

join now by holger beck of a member of the german chancellor, olaf schultz, his social democrats. he also sits on the parliament committee for digital affairs . it's good to have you with us this evening. you know, we have been here before we've had, we've seen a controversy, a crisis where the in a se was caught spying on the cell phone of former chancellor, angular miracle. how worried are you this time about relations between germany in the united states? good evening and to be honest, i would not be too much surprised because you honestly have to be pretty naive to expect that there is not some kind of mutual. busy intelligent gathering call in that way. so in that regard, i don't think that it will damage any existing relationships. it's more of an

embarrassment actually for the various us agencies. we still don't do not know exactly where the leak is coming from. i mean, that's obviously a source of concern for the u. s. and it shows a lot of the classical components of a disinformation campaign. so you have a couple of genuine documents. you have a couple of documents which are obviously tempered with. and you have a couple of other documents, we don't know, are they genuine? are they fake? and so you actually generate a lot of mistrust bullets list. i'm focused on the documents that reportedly concerned arms deliveries to ukraine. i mean, we know that the picture that's being painted right now is a ukrainian military that is not on the brink of collapsing. but almost at that point, is that going to put pressure on germany to deliver more heavy weapons to ukraine.

there has been controversial, there has been criticism of germany dragging its feet when it comes to delivering tanks. for example. i think the, the documents so far have, at least for the people who are, let's say, closer informed about the military situation will not contain significant surprises . i mean, everybody has known that the ammunition situation is pretty dire, and i don't think it will add increasing pressure on either germany or the other allies or what i think it does, however, is generate a discussion about logistics. and of course, a question how to, how can we actually safeguard deliveries because that's actually one of the more concerning issues on these documents. if they are genuine. of course,

it puts the deliveries of weapons and ammunition in danger. mr. baker, i want to ask you what we've got you here. you know, there were comments made over the weekend in the interview by the fridge president regarding the situation with taiwan. basically a president macro was saying that europe should be sovereign enough that he doesn't have to follow the u. s. if there is a conflict with chinese, should be sovereign enough to decide who its allies will be. is he speaking for germany when he says that not at all, actually i had the pleasure to spend today with the taiwan representative here in germany, professor here. and we obviously discussed macross statements. and it becomes pretty clear that this is not a statement which has been cleared up with the european partners. i think it's

pretty clear that all the what we now call like minded nations, we'll have to stand together. and we will urge china to really stick to the current status quo. that's the message we have to send. and i don't think that the statements of micron were meant to, to somehow distance ourselves from, from the us and also to distance ourselves from the situation. we haven't taiwan right now. well perhaps the, the, the comments made by president micron are filling a vacuum that has been created with the departure of angle america from the european scene. we know that former, the former german chancellor, she was very strong in her transit lantus, his attitudes. and we know now that it seems that the voice of germany is not as strong with chancellor off shoals. that is allowing president macaroni to you to put his vision out there. am i giving an accurate description of the situation?

i wouldn't say that i think these were the same allegations, which i actually made during angela nichols term as well. and i think what we definitely have to do is we have to put more emphasis on developing joint european positions in a changing geopolitical geopolitical situation. i think that's for sure, and i am actually urging our politicians, especially on the european level to come up with a more integrative process to formulate these european positions in it in a world which obviously is changing rapidly. and the phrase tightened. linda cannot be overemphasized because it really has shaken or a fundamental belize in geo political polity policies,

which means and that's actually what's happening right now is of course we're trying to develop national strategies in our relationship to russia to china. but that can only happen and will only be successful if that is done in a european context. yeah, well, there still what the talk about. we hope we can come back and talk with this again mr. holger becker, a member of the german parliament for the social democrats. mr. becker, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thank you very much. my pleasure. arliss. take a look now at some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world . turkeys president richard. tell your pair to one has kicked off his re election campaign with a rally in ankara, a month ahead of schedule election, a raging cost of living crisis and the slow reaction to the february earthquake disaster mean that the president and his a k party are facing their biggest challenge since coming to power in 2002 the i m f has warned that the global economy face is a hard landing and a significant risk of recession. it's sorry,

inflation does not ease su in his latest world. economic outlook. fun says the war in ukraine and instability in the banking sector are other key risks initially at the charity group. catholic relief services says that 2 of his staff have been killed in the i'm horror region of northern ethiopia. they were shot in their vehicle while returning from an assignment. the incident comes a bit massive anti government protests in the um, horror region over the dissolution of a regional security force media reports and me and marcy, that scores of people have been killed in airstrikes in the central region of the gun. locals say that military aircraft fired on a group opposed to the ruling hunter, mean mars main pro democracy body known as the national unity government, as condemned to strike as a heinous act. chinese de medias say that

beijing is continuing to carry out what he calls combat training in the wanders around taiwan. this comes despite china officially declaring an end to 3 days of intensive military exercises. on monday, the ty, when he's president, has accused china of creating instability in the region with these exercises. meanwhile, people on the streets of taipei have taken to poking fun at beijing. this is the latest show of taiwanese resistance to china's wargames. people are rushing to buy batches weren't by air force pilots showing winnie the pooh being punched in the face. by a time when he's black pair, i defy and message to china's leader. she jam ping, who is often satirized for looking like the honey loving cartoon. bare china, which claims taiwan as part of its territory, has help 3 days of military drills around the island, including simulated attacks on the territory. the operation started one day

after ty, once president returned from a brief visit to the united states, where she met you as how speaker kevin mccarthy. despite beatings warnings against her. so she says she has since condemned china's actions quickly make war have but he will shine. i used the visit as a pretext to start think military drills, creating instability and the taiwan straits with. yes, this is not the responsible attitude of a major nation in this region. he's a power that with a title on the st of taipei, light goes on. people are focused on a piece for future. joseph jordans and all should be avoided at all costs if it can be avoided. we finally have a sense of peaceful life and we really cherish it on the herb hinder shell hall. in china, people seem divided over their government actions. or did you,

does i think 3 days of drills may not be enough for what i think we should keep showing china's capabilities, even under normal circumstances attack since element doug on them, which is the majority of a one they have when we canopy to roofless, that we have to show a point of view, but only to a certain point, obama did. i think their military drills surely enough for now. beach in conducted similar large scale military exercises around taiwan in august last year. after then you as how speaker nancy pelosi visited the island, concludes the ceremony. italy's far i government has declared a 6 month state of emergency following a sharp rise of the number of migrants crossing the mediterranean. in recent weeks . the move comes after thousands of people crossed the sea between europe and north africa over the weekend. major rescue operations have been launched. resist to boats that are still at sea carrying 80400 people,

respectively. a group see watch says that a 3rd boat near malta, also hearing about 400 people, also needs assistance. i don't wanna bring in now. jean pierre gorgie. he is in london. he is the founder and director of the people for change foundation . that's a multi based human rights organization that deals with human trafficking, mr. gorge, it's good to have you with us. you heard the news. italy's government announcing a 6 month state of emergency siding, the surge in migrants. this will allow the government to repatriate more quickly. people coming over all these boats from northern africa, what your response and including the obligation to individually assess every asylum application by individual seeking protection in europe. we know that you member states and the international community as a whole has obligations both to rescue people in the stress, etc,

such as the people that we're talking about. but also after the trend rescue has happened to facilitate this embarkation in a place of safety and to allow access to assign a procedure. the idea of saying there's an emergency in order to allow repatriation clearly flies in the face of international obligations and is clearly a pretext for violating some of those international obligations. and i think it's say this, or if i could run it as a level of lay there, i apologize for that. the prime minister of italy, though it's going to say that there is no cohesive plan for among all e u. member states for dealing with these migrants in bed. it's left up to italy to deal with these hundreds, if not thousands of people arriving every day. and i think that's a fair assessment of the situation in europe, where we see that because of the dublin system because of the lack of

a european approach to migration because of the lack of effective filter dirty between you, you remember states some states that the borders of europe, i left to bear the responsibility of everyone who is arriving. however, the, the response to that cannot be that we'd violate our international obligations. it also can be that we put the blame and therefore the repair cushions on people seeking protection in your report. and vulnerable in this particular situation, and there is a need for europe to do more. there is a need for more effective solidarity in europe. and we have seen this happen in other situations. we've seen this happen in the context of ukraine where we're seeing significantly higher numbers of ukranian, national being in the u having been displaced in the last year and a half, then we are seeing from, from other countries. so we can, we know that europe can do this if it's one's due, and it has the responsibility of europe to share that responsibility for people who

are at the end of the day, seeking and send us the protection in what you're past said is a place that respects fundamental human rights, but mister got to, you know, as well as i do that that's not going to happen in the near future. what would you like to see happen in italy right now, realistically? i think given the numbers, italy should continue to facilitate the search and rescue of people in distress at sea. taking advantage of the various assets, etc, both owned by the state, but also of private vessels who equal have responsibility to rescue those at sea to allow disembarkation in a place of safety will be that in italy or in other places of safety, coordinating with other states who might be willing to share some of that just possibility and allowing people access to an asylum procedure was continuing to advocate for greater response and greater solidarity between the member states, both in, within, the kind of narrow it,

but also the wider european context. john p. gotcha. founder and director of the people for change foundations to get to we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. no problem. thank you very much for having all imagine having settled in a new country only to find out years later that you're being kicked out. well, that is the case for about 200000 zimbabwe. and in south africa, they were granted residency back in 2009 human rights groups have taken the government to court now, but the clock is ticking the residence permit expire at the end. busy of june, the w's christine wound was met a teacher in johannesburg, whose family is nervously awaiting the outcome of this legal challenge. far from his, herman's and bob, we've been that time really is contemplating the future. his life in south africa might soon be coming to him and he's been earning a living in johannesburg,

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