ah, you, as president biden began the day in northern ireland and ended the day in the republic of ireland, his message of both stops 25 years of peace since the signing of the good friday agreement. that's a reason to celebrate. biden is praising all sides for making the landmark agreement a reality. and that, rightfully so, includes the americans tonight, the u. s. fingerprints all over a quarter century of peace in northern ireland. i'm burnt off in berlin. this is the day ah, peace was not in heaven. george mitchell often said, the negotiation had quote, $700.00 days of failure. and one day success, taste me regular bombs in my tine,

we are just so glad. think some pe, the enemies of peace will not prevail. northern ireland will not go back, pray god, the fact that he is coming here at this particular trade is a sign of recognition that the p processment good place supported the people of northern ireland, protecting the peace preserving belfast. good friday agreement is a priority for democrat and republican alike in the united states. and that is unusual today because we've been very divided and our party also coming up a tough times for tupperware chances are your parents owned a set of those iconic plastic bowls. chances are you and your children do not. i mean i, it does help pay the household bills plus those little extras you now that us girls like to tell. and to going out to dinner with your husband a, what happened with what you are viewers watching on p

b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with 25 years of peace in northern ireland and the american effort that made it possible you as president joe biden was in northern ireland earlier today. the 1st off in his 4 day tour of the irish island to mark the landmark in 1998 good friday peace agreement. of that agreement ended decades of sectarian violence in northern ireland, known as the troubles protestants loyal to the u. k. known as unionists and catholics in favor of re unification with the republic of ireland, known as nationalists agreed to a power sharing agreement in the general assembly in belfast. a president biden praised both sides to day for putting their bitter disagreements to the side in favor of peaceful cooperation, but there were external forces, namely the americans who played a crucial role in the good friday agreement. and who have worked to keep that

agreement intact. for 25 years, we have this report. it was a trip that was eva in a flash. j invite and popped in to belfast for less than a day and met the british. prime minister richie snack. the occasion 25 years of peace in northern ireland. 25 years ago this week, the landmark profess good friday grew side and it wasn't easy. and uh, there were no guarantees that the deal on paper would hold no guarantees that it would be able to deliver the progress we celebrate today. it took long, hard years of work to get to this place. the agreement ended 3 decades of bloodshed between mainly catholic nationalists, who opposed british rule in northern ireland and mainly protestant unionists who supported it. thousands were killed in bombings and other attacks. under the u. s.

broke and agreement, paramilitary groups laid down their arms. direct u. k. row was brought to an end and a power sharing government was set up in northern ireland. instead. the piece has been a lasting success, but the government collapsed a year ago in a row of a trade rules following breck says, some hope that biden's visit will jolt local politicians into action, hoping it might give them a check to say, right, hang on me, i can to get back aaron ocoee, they were being patriot rome, the convey because of the minute the copies trying to run itself careful not to have a step bite and said he hoped the parties would return to the negotiating table so that government could resume that he hinted, could be the precursor to more american investments. the u. s. president is now on the 2nd leg of his trip in the republic of ireland, where he will address the dublin parliament biden, who is fiercely proud of his irish heritage, will also visit his to ancestral home towns. illinois now by connell par,

he's an irish political history expert at the northumbria university in new castle . he joins us tonight from the irish capital. dublin tell us, good to have you with us. how important was the role that the united states played in securing the good friday agreement 25 years ago the united states. so it's usually hard intended in lots of ways. remember that the us special envoy to northern ireland, george mitchell had a long career and started politics and in american politics was the person who jazz the party talk. he was appointed, especially by president clinton at the time, and clinton himself had set to set the groundwork for a lot of the service. what eventually became the mitchell principles which join mitchell produced to flow from that. and generally speaking, mitchell won the respect and commanded the respectful a lot of politicians in northern ireland in a way which has happened before. generally speaking,

you'd say the us place that kind of honest, broke around very successfully. and they have, since the good friday agreement also maintained that and, and kept a close eye on the island it, what was it about the u. s. or maybe about the, you know, the personality of mitchell that made the country an agreeable broker to both sides in the talks. well, it's an interesting thing i often sometimes on the unionist side on the product and union site that would be a sort of mistrust of as an at the united states. because remember that from east coast with america be a provision i right, has secured a lot of weaponry and funds for really the duration of the whole troubles complex. so it took quite a, quite, somewhat of a, not a commitment and a lot of a, not a bridge building on mitchell's part to win that trust. and, and i think that he basically through a combination of his kind of kind of carson ality and it's kind of possibility and has shown these important qualities. even

a bit of humor thrown in there. he basically kind of wins the trust of unionists as well as the nationalist politicians. remember john human then at the p leader, one of the architects is a good friday agreement. had been one of the people had always been on the united states and on in boston. the new york building up support a nice american networks, including with a president who of course has some connection to power base and delaware politics. so it's an interesting thing to see all those things come together and mitchell with the man who was that unable to put it off at the time. i want to talk with you about the challenges presented by breaks it in just a moment. but 1st, the good friday agreement, it wasn't the combination of the piece process, but rather the start of that process. what role has the us played post 1998 in keeping the peace process going? well, you have to remember that just after the good friday agreement there was 911 partially . and what happened is that basically the american governments,

what was their george w bush administration? put pressure on the right to take commission quite quickly and you do see by 2005. they have done that. so you have, you have a big connection between what us presidents are doing and know the name and always them in time. but also remember in terms of, you know, just that, that useful perspective, the united states. often you have to remember that the government of the u. k. and also to an extent, the government dividing to never be true, the neutral. and now the situations and when you come in to look at not an art. and so it's very interesting thing that the united states is capable of doing. it's not to say that there are problems within american politics and society, but they are very good at kind of coming in. and it was interesting, interesting. even tonight, the final thing i say on this is that me, martin, the minister of foreign affairs mentioned the work of the international fund for ireland for instance, which comes a lot of money into sort of border communities and piecewise on on the ground. and

again, that's a sign that has been going since the mid 18 agreement and 985. so that tells you again, just how much america does put into, nor than i don't know. if we know that breaks it has put a huge strain on, on the peace process. what role has the united states played in making sure that breaks did not reverse the gains that have already been made very, you know, again, hugely important role here. you have to remember that. now at the same time, we might say the time when donald trump posts 2016 post backs that trump was perhaps one of those presidents who would occasionally pay lip service to the irish american i'll be but really wasn't as committed to it as someone like bite and would have been by that has been since he's taken office in 2020. i think you have to remember the way the biden looked on this, which was that there were some, some when there was talk to set of free trade agreement between the united states and u. k. biden made it very clear that the u. s. government wasn't going to approach

something along those lines. and remember, there is bipartisan support between the public and the democrats in american politics for this. so he wasn't going to support a tree trade deal, which might shaft or undermine ireland in any way. so he has been someone who's kept is this close to his heart, he got someone who's kept his eye on the situation very closely. and he's always made it clear. even if you look at his visit last night with him coming in to northern ireland and traveling south today, that you get the strong sense that this is a man who, you know, he wasn't going to london. he was coming into items and he wants to stay in island and he pays a lot of type. he pays it out of. it gives a lot of time and a lot of energy to this in a way that not all of us presidents would do that. it interesting point that you make and i heard today that he had made me to the point that he didn't want to to metal in the current stalemate that we're seeing right now in irish political and

northern irish political institutions. but is there a role that the u. s. can play baby to to in that still made it all? yes, i think there is, i mean, i think for what it's worth. so sometimes again, you get sort of to try to get some detractors on the union side, uneven. i'm saying on, on the conservative party in the k at the moment. it was very interesting how he played it today. his talk at the university of ulster opening that opening the new, the new building and the center about us was he was emphasizing that the us would support an investment that there was going to be a potential dividend that the united states could send all the items weigh if it would move and help the situation. and he's been very clear. remember what he said last night. he said, when question what he was most asking for when it came to know the night and was to keep the peace. and that's what the united states can, will do there, emphasizing that through those kind of making a business for me,

something which would be open to investors. so much playing that up is not leaning towards the mental romantic view of a nation. once again. harm irish political history expert at the north university call us good talking to we appreciate your time valuable context tonight. thank you . i which and i, there are more details from that. a parent, massive leak of us intelligence documents online, and that includes reports of a small number of western special forces inside ukraine, washington's allies, including the government and keep our playing down believe material, calling some of the documents outdated or fake. but the u. s. is taking this leak very seriously. here's defense secretary lloyd austin. i was 1st brief on the report, so on authorized disclosure of sensitive and classified material on the morning of april 6th. and since then,

i've been convening senior department leaders daily on our response. and i have directed an urgent cross department effort and we referred the matter to the department of justice, which has opened a criminal investigation. now, i can't say much more while the justice department's investigation is ongoing. but we take this very seriously. a professor thomas read is the founding director of the alpert of ich institute for cybersecurity studies at johns hopkins university school of advanced international studies professor. it's good to have you on the program. how serious is this leak for the u. s. government? this leak is no doubt, very serious. there's no reason right now despite of what some eyes are saying to believe that there is that this is fake of something in any way. let's put this into context. the leak emergent emerged for the 1st time on ice. pretty obscure,

sub channel and disc on discord and social media platform. and unfortunately, the number of files that was initially posted on that sub channel were reportedly in the hundreds and hundreds below 1000. so the approximately 50 files that many media organizations have are only a small part of the initial which you refer to. discord is being an obscure platform. but how obscure is it? i mean, one of my producers was saying that his children use discord to communicate with their gaming bodies around the world. i mean, everyone knows about discord and it would that being the case? how is it possible then that the u. s. government didn't find these documents for weeks, we understood that they had been posted there, but at the beginning of march and spend what 4 or 5 weeks since then? yeah, i think it's important to make a distinction. obviously,

discord is not an obscure platform. just like slack is not an obscure platform, but just like with slack, what you can do here is to have closed groups, closed channels, underscored and even sub channels within them that are not publicly visible. and it was, i think i found a stan correct in one of those close channels that is now deleted, that the initial, the leak appeared and was then re posted by members into other channels and ultimately into public for on fortune. and if we go back to the fact that this is the 1st large u. s. intelligence leak, that, that we've had to report on, why is it happening to the united states? i mean, is it because the united states is such a big target? it's a super power or is this a consequence of living in an open democracy? yeah, neither of the 2. i think. first off, let's put this into context. we've seen in the past 13 years since 2015 mega

leaks, and a couple of the smaller ones all coming out of the u. s. intelligence community. right. launch cable gate snowdon. i'm just going to name them cable gates, snowden shadow brokers, von 7. and now these discord leaks. now, why is this happening? there are couple of reasons. one of them is here in the united states we have and these are official director of national intelligence figures we had as of late 20191250000 people who had top secret clearance and another 1700000 people with secret clearance. the vast number of people with such high clearances makes it practically impossible to really do proper risk management. and there's all over classification. and it's simply still too easy to take some of this material outside, either digitally or physically as we've seen with these files because they were

taken pictures from physical documents. you get the impression to that inside the pentagon, right now, the mood must be, it's time to take some names and kick some. but that could be a normal reaction to this. but i'm wondering in your expert opinion, what does the united states need to do to prevent these kinds of leaks in the future? there is no doubt this lake is highly damaging. just like all the other leaks that i've just listed were highly damaging. but let me add a probably fresh and provocative perspective to this conversation, and that is the leaks are damaging and it should be avoided at all costs. yes, but also at the same time, because of all of these mega leeks, we now have a much more informed public conversation about intelligence capabilities in the united states. we now have a fairly detailed understanding of advanced technical collection capabilities in

the united states. as a result of snowden and other leaks, so we have to just be able as an open democracy to embrace this contradiction. yes, the leaks are bad, but once they're out, there's actually also a beneficial aspect to having that information out there. of course that doesn't get the bad sides. i'm not saying that, but it's a, it's a helpful conversation that is enabled as a result professor, if i'm, if i'm hearing you correctly, that the message here is we're going to have to learn to live with this. i mean, the message is to a did to an extent. absolutely. yes. because we've had 5 mega links and the space of essentially on average one, every 2.5 years, every 2 and a half years and a couple of small ones in between. so far, i'm not seeing the measures that would prevent this from happening. so i am i expecting back to be online having this conversation with you and 2 and

a half years. well, the evidence so far leads me to expect that fascinated fascinating. professor thomas read from johns hopkins university. we appreciate your time valuable insights tonight. thank you. thank you. ah. is the party over at tupperware? the iconic household, plastic container maker. tupperware is looking for new investors warning, otherwise it may not be in business much longer. stocks in tupperware took a tumble on monday after the company announced that it is hiring financial advisors because it is unsure about its ability to survive a tupperware became a symbol of prosperity after the 2nd world war. the business model was built around in home sales in the 1960 s. in 19 seventy's. suburban women held tupperware party selling the reusable plastic bowls to family, friends, and neighbors. but sales and profits, they have fallen in recent years. and that,

despite the coven 19 pandemic, which so a temporary surge in sales. you know that you will enjoy now by emily hile. she is a reporter at the washington post, whose article on tupperware is dire. financial straits caught our attention. emily, it's good to have you on the program that i'm going to ask you because we've all been asking ourselves this in the newsroom. have you ever been invited to a tupperware party? i think i'm just a little too young to have to have gone to a tupperware party, although i actually have seen them on taking place more virtually. so a lot of people who are a little bit younger might have attended one on facebook or had one online, but i personally have never been in fact, it's fascinating. i was thinking about this. i had an entire drawer in my kitchen that i or a shell, and i call it the tupperware shell. yeah. but the thing is there's actually no toner on it. none of those, those, those plastic things about me on the head,

every time i open the, the, the cabinet are actually labeled tupperware. and i think that became a problem where the company that even though they were synonymous with this entire category, there are so many competitors are coming along and, and doing it and be more visible than they are. yeah. that, that, that is true. you know, tupperware is like, kleenex, kleenex or, or xerox. i mean, the brand name has actually transcended the brand itself. i mean, we all have plenty of plastic containers in our tupperware were if you were saying, but not a single item. that is a tupperware product. i mean that, that has to be toxic for the company. that's a problem for sure. and i think it was especially a problem when they think about younger customers who don't want to go to tupperware parties. you know, i think younger customers are still used to getting what they want right at the fingertips right away. and they just don't shop like that. and there are certain brands, maybe they've done that. and i think that at this point, those parties that you read getting the invite to the girlfriend selling jewelry or,

you know, you would read that and that's not the kind of way that people want to shop now. and the so a tupperware did last year move away from the or at least not only away from the party model that had to bind it. but they did begin offering their product on argot shelves. but i think it was just a little too late for that brand. it just didn't have the exposure. you know, and if you ask what you know, a younger customer, what properly was, they would tell you it was the containers, but i don't think they would necessarily maybe even know that it was a brand to sell. yeah, yes. a good point. you know, and i can barely remember my mother mentioning a tupperware party and i guess i was a small boy at the time. so we're talking about, you know, 40 police 40 years ago. and even then though, it seemed that tupperware parties were completely going out of fashion.

right. but there was a time when tupperware parties were really like a wonderful thing for women. and it was a way, 1st of all, for the women selling the tupperware, it was a way for them to generate a little bit of income, women who weren't working outside of their homes. and it was a way for them to generate income. and, you know, gain a little bit of autonomy and had a little bit of some measure of financial independence and success. and for the women attending them, it seemed a little revolutionary. you know, here you were, you know, talking to your friends about this part of it was going to make your life easier. and it felt like that kind of fun from, you know, your routine. and really, at one point was a really desirable and really revolutionary fails model. and it was actually developed by a suburban, detroit secretary and single mom on, you know, back in the, in the forty's. and so this was really at one point as a sort of cool and interesting and, and really important development in,

in sales. you know, this reminded me to, of that scene from the film. the graduates were, you know, you've got this party taking place and you have mr. mcguire, he pulls a very young dustin hoffman to the side and he tells them that on there is a big future in plastics. and that was the late ninety's sixty's, right. and plastic was acquainted with modernity, profits of success. but today in 2023. yes. people about plastics and they'll, they'll say, global warming pollution. even cancer on this significant change in public opinion . it's obvious to me the how does that, does that fit into tupper? where's downfall? it does because that, that idea of putting your food in plastic we're all actually trying to, especially younger customers, are trying to reduce waste. and so where many their products though they do last quite a long time, many of them are seen as, as more disposable we're, we're moving away from, from that, from plastics. you know,

a lot of people are looking at, you know, glass products to, to, for food storage and eliminating, you know, food waste. so there's, there's sort of a movement away from this very idea of, of their entire product. and so i feel like that to probably has, has become a problem for them. yeah. and like we said, the beginning of the segment has the party ended in tupperware, and i think it is in the for sure. emily. hi, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thanks for having me but the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either at the w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf tv and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody who's with,

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