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ah, you as president biden to day followed other u. s. president kennedy reagan and clinton, when he spoke before a joint session of the irish parliament in his address biden said in gaelic, i am home. how may a while? yeah, we're just a few days ago. he said the same thing in english in northern ireland, a different audience. yes. but how different. tonight, one island, one people the campaign to reunite ireland. i'm brink off in berlin. this is the day. ah, i almost remember does i do pieces indispensable? barstow reminds us, artists are yours and mine reminds of responsibilities. we have the president that
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should be the present to the hope or ancestors the expectation of future generations. as the poet bolen wrote in her poems, mother, ireland said i've learned my name. i rise, i rose up, i remembered it now. now i could tell my story. also coming up in china in the us, where should europe stand last week on a visit to beijing? the french president gave a controversial answer. is germany speaking from the same page that we are not only close to each other on the central issue of our interests and values. i thought that we pursue common strategic approach in alumni because that is our european strength. i guess also i will piece to stack ah, or to our viewers. why on p b,
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as in the united states and to every one around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the questions that have accompanied you as president biden this week on his visit to northern ireland and the republic of ireland. just how many irelands are there, and how many should there be? in the 20th century, thousands of people lost their lives in sectarian violence. connected to those very questions by began his visit this week in belfast, in northern ireland to mark the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. now it ended decades of bloodshed known as the troubles no longer were catholics in favor of a united ireland and protestants loyal to the united kingdom, enemies living next door to each other. peace came also with a nod to the possibility of change, the possibility that northern ireland will one day choose to unite with the republic of ireland, one nation, one country. when island, i'll speak with
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a champion of that movement in just a moment. but 1st, here are some excerpts from today's speech by the u. s. president. to day arlin stories, no one's to tell, but its own. but the united states will be your closest partner, your most dependable partner, and your most enthusiastic support are every step of the way. i promise you. we've always been and we've been together and we're going to continue to grow our enormous economic relationship as a foundation for both our nations prosperity. today's ladies and gentlemen, as we celebrate than during partnership between our nations. i shared past our present that said our i squarely on the future. it's harness. what's the best of us, or courage, or creativity or loyalty or to mass city. and our loyalty again. as was more for our generation generation to come strive to make open history,
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right? because i've never been more optimistic about the shooting them the day. i want to begin now. nile murphy. he is the secretary of ireland future. that's a non profit campaigning for a border poll on a united ireland nile is considered one of the most vocal supporters of irish re in if occasion i'll, it's good to have you on the program to night. you as president biden, he has been marking the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement. in your opinion, what is the next step forward to build on the gains of these 25 years of peace? well, should say that the president finds presence in ireland in an off itself as a moment of history. yes, of course he has been here to promote the success that has been our peace process. he recollected in his remarks today that is good friend,
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george mitchell. and readily advised him that there had been 600 days of failure in the talks put that on one historic day, there had been a success on that historic day in good for a 990. it has really provided for the transition to pace. yes, we are a post conflict society, but the good friday agreement has offered all of our society a both north on, so on alternative, the opportunity to live and work on socialize on govern and harmony. but also another thing that president been touched upon today was to and i would extrapolate the, an important of what i have to say with regards to think that it is that the good friday agreement provided many to the noble aspiration for the reunification of ireland. it does provide a pathway towards constitutional teens on our organization,
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out in the future as wholly on, solely dedicated to the peaceful transition towards constitutional tmj, which for the 1st time and irish history, the good friday agreement, consolidated for would you say now that the presence of u. s. president biden has added to the momentum of your calls, and that is of course to, to reunite all of our i think it is perhaps more nuanced than not for president biden was very, ah, careful in his remarks. very diplomatic in his remarks. ah, what was came to to assure all citizens off as island about his administration. and indeed successive administrations, as we know, are the guarantor for peace. which the good friday agreement, of course, provides for. he was careful to advise not for the resumption of par
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sharing is a monitor for people here. he was very alert to the concerns us. he should be off unionists. but of course, the good friday agreement provides the pathway towards constitutional, tmj, for the 1st time in irish history, the opportunity lawfully to legislate or to color referendum is provided for schedule. one of the northern ireland act 980 it is the legal are working of the agreement on for the 1st time provides an awesome way to unification . and really it's in the hands of the people are respectful analysis is not at the opportunity. has he him to test the principle of consent at the unionist majority which had underpinned really what was a sectarian state in the north? i go on forever. the last 3 parliaments to which unionism aspired,
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at the local storm of the sand, late the west minister assembly, or the westminster government. sorry, i'll let me, let me just coming from it with that in mind. i want us to listen to a statement from the head of the democratic unionist party jeffrey donaldson that was made following biden's speech on the good friday agreement this past wednesday, which was yesterday to take a listen. but it's good to have the president of the united states here in belfast . we welcome him as we welcome all visitors. but i don't think it changes the political dynamic or the reality. the what we need is the reassurance that are placed within the united kingdom is both respected, unprotected. now when you hear that, i mean, how are you going to be able to push ahead with the referendum on a united ireland, if you can't get people who identify as british to, to join you. and, and i was looking at the date of the last ipsos poll, which was taken last year,
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shows that northern ireland would vote against unification if there was a referendum held today. well, of course there is not going to be a referendum held today. there would be a company in our analysis is that a referendum winner actually can only take place after there has been detailed planning on preparation for it. there are very details. ah, when was in, i'll require when we're ready. where would that be? if you've got a time frame for that, i would like, i would like to think that that could occur before the end of this decade on the 20th century, seen the end of the british empire, and i'm very confident mendoza this decade will see the conclusion of the united kingdom scottish independence is a competing contrast. and i am of the view that for many reasons, political change being one that medicines the last 3 elections. electoral results
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are quite clear that there is no unionist majority, not as go on forever. demographic chines husband referenced and the most recent census on whereas, religiosity is a, is a crude metric and it is one which has been relied upon and support of the union. and the protestant, ah, numerical advantage has also gone forever. so there are tectonic plates which are shifting in our society. a relying always, no, it's actually not. are you relying the on demographic changes? i mean, you say within the next 7 years, you'd like to have a referendum. maybe that's, that's not a lot of time. do you think that 7 years is enough? i mean, you know, according to the good friday agreement, you know, they were, if they're going to hold that referendum, they have to know that there is a majority in favor of uniting with the republic of ireland. you think you're going to have that in 7 years?
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for example, you referred to a poll, there was a poem today which confirmed that only 47 percent of those phones would vote to remain in the united kingdom. so already there is a minority in favor of the status quo, a not as with the details of plan that is without the 2 governments reviewing economics, education, health, constitutional pathways. all of that work is detailed work on it, leads to be undertaken governmental it. and so we say we are respectful analysis is that there is tang for that detailed planning and preparation to be undertaken on for the electron to know. we have seen her constitutional teens husband, current mileage with the recent bracket farsi were unsuspecting ignorance for hops . public hot, a question to which nobody knew the answer, foisted opponents account p and not informed by empirical evidence on data, but rather informed by lie and racism,
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and effect on that led to with majority for president on breaks that has occurred. may, society is living with the wreckage off that we say let me ask you a different let me ask you, i was reading about a little bit about you and you recently had cove at it and you were praising the health care that you got through the in a chess, yes. with that in mind, if you were to reunify, ireland is the plan. there is the money there to transform the entire health care system in ireland, you know, to have the health care that you were praising in this article about you recovering from cove it yes. just just on the cover i was on a support for 17 days. i was really thought to leave it and i see for 28 days on one of the evenings my wife was supposed to be told. i may not make it through the night. i was at rest of dying. so i know very preciously the value of the
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work, what's going on in our health service, and then our hospitals. and it is the she, him of our society. not our health care workers are treated as they are, how co workers here who strike in recent weeks for pe party with their colleagues in england, scotland, and wheels. and i don't see it staffing levels. there aren't enough. we say that there is a better way to have the last name to minister and says, no, i mean, you look great. i mean, i would say you got excellent healthcare. we're glad that you recovered because, you know, we've had start of the countless stories of people, not making it with coven 19 but, but that type of health care that top quality health care is incredibly expensive, is the money there. i mean, is that an argument that you can make to everyone in northern ireland that the money is there to ensure that for everyone on the island of ireland? absolutely what our analysis is that there is actually the opportunity for an
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enhanced health care system for every citizen living on the island. and in fact, i wrote a grant to report as a citizen of the north, no health curriculums for northern citizens or lesser or colleagues other on fellow citizens. in the psych, a chatty born today will have a life expectancy 18 months less on a child born in dublin, for example, 100 megs down the road. i personally, it's $65.00 today will live 6 months less if they're a resident in belfast than any older or the $26.00 countries of the show. so already the, the comes for best administration of healthcare are better in this. so if not in the north, our analysis is, harmonization of services will lead to
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a more improved health system for everybody on the cell. and i'm not combat replicated across the leasing education, most importantly, perhaps on leasing a new economy. now unfortunately, we're out of time, but listen, we're going to be following this story and we're going to be seeing what happens over the next few years. please come back and talk with us again and let, let's see where public opinion is. and if the needle has moved nile murphy with the non profit ireland future, now we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thank you. ah. german foreign minister angelina bare box says that germany and france are united when it comes to policy on china. bare bach is currently visiting china just a week after the french president emanuel macro. and now he faced criticism. after suggesting that europe should maintain an equal distance between washington and beijing on the issue of taiwan hears, bare bark. speaking at the start of her trip on the kind unknown,
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but there is no other partner in the you with whom he consult as closely as we do with our friends from france. and the french president also emphasized once again yesterday, that frances china policy mirrors, europe's china policy one to wine. so i will see all appear said he not, we take care of. and that has been our strength in the past year that we've made it clear despite all the differences that we also have in the european union. that we are not only close to each other on the central issues of our interests and values body. but that we pursue common strategic approaches alumni because that is our european strength, i guess also lp status. i want to bring in now good again since she is a member of parliament for the business. friendly, free democrats who are part of the governing coalition here in berlin. she joins us tonight from keel in northern germany. it's good to have you on the program tonight we, we just heard the foreign minister adelina burbock. they're saying that germany and france are united on china policy. the french president emanuel micron. he said
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last week that europe should distance itself from both china and the united states when it comes to taiwan. is that the german government's position as well? i thank you for having me. no, it is not. i personally also disagree with president across and his statements towards his coming back from beijing. but there is, on the other hand, a current and up and running china strategy in the european union. and that clarify this trial that everybody is talking about contact and systemic rival. i 2 of those important shy s's. so i think that i did that, that should also come back from aging and reassuring also our european partners and countries that this is still the strategy that also friends is and should be
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following museums. and what is your foreign minister? what is she doing then in china right now is angelina bareback? is she on a damage control mission? following the words of french president macro, i think it is important that our foreign minister is for the 1st time in i'll be in office visiting china on an official trip. so i think it's only natural for her to, to visit a country that is of utmost importance. not just on the economic level, but rather also within the united nations framework. i do not think that she should only be seen as one other foreign minister who tries to do damage control. but i think she passed back her reactions that she also got from china to, to brussels, to just and just that nothing has changed within us.
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european standing side by side with our allies name the taiwan, mainly the united states of america missions. and what about germany itself in this whole constellation of geo politics is germany, is it particularly vulnerable economically, to any increase intentions? with jain, i think it is an important question, and i think when we talk to companies, those small and medium sized companies, we see a very much high degree risking and also decentralizing back from china and to other regions in asia. but there are, on the other hand, 13 bigger companies such as mercedes, such as demons, b, i f, who let me put it that way. i can afford to still invest in china and also increase
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in medicine. china. i think we need to take that apart because most of the companies, very much aware of the fact that they need to do risk. and i think that is something that german politics that european policy should also dig into with regard to that china strategies and we're currently working on a child on a german china strategy, ms. gibson, when you say de risk or are you saying that multinational german companies, i'm thinking a volkswagen, for example, that they have to face the music that the time has come for them to d invest. to start pulling out of jain, i think that is of utmost importance that they face this kind of music to put it in your words, especially for both wagon. i think because of the state of a saxony is an important player within the company. i would say that every company
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needs to put a question mark to their investments into china, because on the short term there might be certain shortages, certain shit and certain losses, but in the long term. and i think politics should always also take into account the long term strategies. it is a better situation if economy is investing in other parts in asia. that does not mean that every single company should step out of a china business. that is totally unrealistic. you risky means that certain companies also need to explain why their certain investment behavior is the way it is. and this is before we run out of time, i just want to ask you the german chance or, or like shoulds. he's been criticized for being and i'll put this mildly of being
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somewhat weak when it comes to, to pushing china when it comes to european values, particularly we're talking about human rights, is your foreign minister on lena bear book. is she doing the work that the german chancellor just can't seem to bring himself to do? i would say that she is definitely concluding what every cabinet member of the german government should come to with that it's important to stand up with our. c allies who share the same doubt values because it, because a question of, i'm also abiding by a contract and international law is also a contract. and i think that is what alina bamberg brace to the table in b, g. and what will have shots also brought to the table when we traveled to beijing last year, and every other a cabinet member should do the same thing. good again and with the free democrats
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here in germany. miss chancellor, we appreciate your time in your insights to night. thank you. thank you. oh. and now to thailand, home of white, sandy beaches and crystal clear water as you can see them right there behind me. it's an enticing setting for travelers. but since the pandemic put the brakes on tourism some other visitors have made a comeback. for about 4 years, maya bay looked pretty much like this. mostly empty of people and a prime spot for black tip reef sharks. a 100 to a 160 a day in this quiet, sheltered coral reef cove. thai authorities had closed excess in 2018 to mitigate the effects of tourism. and then the pandemic hit, keeping people away even longer and allowing the sharks. they're obviously not the
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jaws variety to flourish. oh, so now what with what was called a limited reopening in 2022. limited as in $375.00 visitors per hour. and no one allowed in the water over their knees, plus no boats, docking in the bay project. my a bay shark watch says the shark numbers are down by 3 quarters from their recent peak that's not unexpected and considered, well, ok. we're hoping that we owe with the restriction in place, we can mitigate that service on them. and now we're doing this research in hopes that we can find out the best way for tourism and the environment to clicks is yeah, the have to save it. if you will let people go. so it we will destroy it. definitely. so i really appreciate the, the way that the close the beat for the swimming. probably it does because to save
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the nita barring another intervention, environmental stewards, no. this space will remain a tourist destination. but if the coral reef is now safe and $30.00 to $40.00 sharks still come here each day, it can still sort of be a win win each actually going to bring new ah tourism scheme as well. and are we going to benefit from that overall? so we don't talk about, you know, closing everywhere or reducing the tourism number, but i think the talking about minutes seeing it wisely, as the tourist numbers to this famous beach hold to about 4000 a day. the research and a black tip reef sharks can continue, because now there are at least several dozen a day to track gorgeous water there. the day's almost done. the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter. you can follow me on twitter at britain. gov tv. i remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is
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