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ah ah ah, this is the w news live from berlin. federal agents in the us arrest the suspect alleged to be at the center of a massive intelligence leak. a 21 year old member of the air national guard is in custody with charged under the espionage act, he's believed to have shared classified documents, reportedly to impress friends in a chat group,
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plus germany is foreign minister on or they are. barbara acknowledges china as an important partner and calls on beijing to use its influence on moscow and help and the war in ukraine. also, coming up for decades, finland has carefully positioned itself between moscow in the west. now it's part of nato's frontline with russia fins living near that border are suddenly facing a much more threatening neighbor. ah, i'm glad offers. welcome to the program. and we start the show in the united states where the f b, i has arrested a suspect over the leak of classified documents, connected among other things to the war and ukraine. the 21 year old member of the massachusetts and national guard is accused of sharing highly sensitive information
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with members of an online chat group. their circulation on social media has exposed military secrets from ukraine and diplomatically embarrassing details of us espionage activities. arrested by a team of federal agents. the suspect, an employee of the united states air force. national guard is accused of leaking a trench of classified documents, led away from his home in massachusetts. he'll now face the full weight of u. s. justice. today the justice department arrested jack douglas to sheriff in connection with an investigation and to alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information to share it is an employee of the united states air force, national guard f. b i. agents took to sure and to custody earlier this afternoon. without incident. the documents reveal top secret pentagon intelligence about both
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allies and adversaries. but perhaps most concerning for u. s. officials or the classified files about the war in ukraine. u. s. defense secretary lloyd austin, said his department is launching review of intelligence, access, accountability, and control procedures. but u. s. president joe biden, who is currently on a visit to the republic of ireland, great. was came to play down, his worries over the potential fall out. i use it, sir. debacle to leave the time to go. oh, you got a mill. i want you to love the lady. i'm concerned with contemporaneous this is the boston court house where the alleged leeker is to appear on friday. but while the main suspect may be in custody dozens,
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more documents and their explosive content may yet come to light. well as bringing d w security correspondent, thomas sparrow at thomas. what can you tell us about this suspect? while he was young, that as a, as a start. and he was described as someone who had worked as a sort of i t specialist within the intelligence wing of the massachusetts national guard. and that probably explains how he was allegedly able to access that classified information according to people who knew him, who had maybe been with him on some of these online forums where the documents were leaked. they described him as someone who had possibly carried out a stupid kids mistake and who was basically just trying to inform some of the members of those groups about what was happening in the real world. however, u. s. intelligence officials are investigating whether they may be a more troublesome side to the,
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to the suspect. and the suspect is now obviously facing charges under the u. s. espionage act for what authorities are describing as a possible deliberate criminal act. now, as we've heard a president joe biden said he wasn't too worried about it, but it's also been called the most damaging leaks since edward snowden or what has the real fallout actually been so far? when we talk about the fallout, i think the key word there is trust because the whole idea of these classified documents is for intelligence agencies, but more broadly, also with allies to be able to discuss information without that information being then open to the public, open to be discussed elsewhere. so when it comes to the fallout when it comes to what you as officials are trying to achieve is trying to reassure allies, for example, when it comes to the issue of u. s. spying abroad,
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that the trust is still there and they're trying to limit some of the damages. now you mention, and this is, i think, particularly important the edward snowden leaks a decade ago. and if you compare the fall out, then 10 years ago with a fall out now in particular, the reaction coming from european capitals or other capitals around the world. i would certainly say that the fallout now is less, may remember the outrage that was caused a decade ago after the leaks by edward snowden in capitals, including right here in berlin with then chance langler merkel saying that spying among friends is unacceptable. we're not seeing that kind of reaction now, at least not open, at least not openly when it comes to some of the u. s. is closest allies and now they've also been filed in the league indicating that western special forces them members of nato military operating ukraine. what's the political implications of that? for obviously some of the details there are still not known because of the highly
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classified nature of that possible operation of that possible presence. but what we can say for sure is that that may reinforce certain narratives around the war in ukraine, in particular, russia narrative, stressing that they are not only fighting against ukraine, but that they're also fighting against nato. so it will be interesting to see also as more details i revealed about these and other issues, how all the different countries, all the different players positioned themselves when it comes to, to this particular case of the special forces, allegedly participating in the war in ukraine. did up your political correspondent, tom sparrow. thank you. thomas. germany is foreign minister, on our bare balk, has held high level talks with her counterpart, chin gang in the bay, ging to discuss china's tensions with taiwan bridges, human rights record, and the war in ukraine. china and ally of russia announced it will not supply
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weapons to moscow. burbock said, but no other country has more influence on russia than china. and she called on bridging to exert this influence on the kremlin to bring the warrant ukraine to an end. as a scorched as he now i think it's a good thing that china has signaled its willingness to work towards a solution here that i have to say frankly that i wonder why the chinese position so far hasn't included calling on the aggressor, russia to stop the war been hired, it didn't speak to stop correspondent fabiani kurtz, we're in beijing and he w chief international editor, richard walker in berlin are covering the german foreign ministers visit in china. and i asked fabi encouragement. what message on a linna burbock has sent to her chinese counterpart? i think they were too poor messages. one was about the one ukraine m. no bach has said that on the one hand, she thinks it's good that china in general,
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is showing some willingness to m, solve the crisis. but on the other hand, she said a rather frank statement. she said, i have to wonder why the chinese position so far has not included a calling on russia, the aggression aggressor, to stop this war. that is really quite a frank statement and it's a clear request to towards china, to put more pressure on russia and to help and this war. and 2nd issue is taiwan. she has said that em any are unilateral or violent change, of the status quo is unacceptable. and is also a red line for germany in europe. so she said, this conflict must be solved peacefully. richard, based on their statements, how far apart are the german or the chinese foreign ministers on the issues of taiwan and ukraine? yet were if we just here were just fabri. i mentioned there, it is pretty clear that there is quite a bit of distance and we just heard from far beyond what angelina bear bach said with respect, for instance, to taiwan. that this is very much germany is concerned that you know,
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the impact on trade would be devastating if there were a conflict across the taiwan strait or chin gang. her chinese counterpart simply saying this is our current core interest. we won't give up one inch of territory. and on this question of ukraine, we just heard of fabiani quoting analia bedbug, there was a pretty blunt message. you know, this is putins wor, it's up to him to end it. chin gang, repeating the chinese position, which is close to a russian talking points that you have to recognize the security interests of all. otherwise, you only end up in conflicts and was essentially saying that the implication there being that russia was somehow forced into this war or by a feeling of threat from the west. the father, we've been talking a lot about what the europe wants of from china. what does china want from europe? yeah, i would say i'm china as basically 3 big goals. one is to continue business as usual
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. they want to keep the trade relations with the european union, a trade relation that is actually becoming more, more imbalance. i mean, the trade deficit has basically doubled in the past 3 years or so. i mean, so it's basically in favor for the chinese site. the 2nd thing is they want to prevent any trans atlantic or solidarity. they don't want to have yeah. brussels being closer to washington. and the 3rd thing is that they also want to prevent is that the european union will find a unified critical strategy towards china. they rather want to divide each countries and deal with them by literally a richard. there have been a, quite a few european leaders traveling to china and reason days, namely, president markov france and that was certainly mixed messages. loony is who more right now europe, china or the other way round. yet we're, as we've just heard from fabi, i think he summed up very well what, what china are kind of once from europe and basically for things to kind of get
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back to normal business. again, we're humming again is their primary interest. but of course, from the european side, they have this very specific ask. they want china to lean on vladimir putin to stop the war in ukraine. and the big question is, is china going to do that? there's a lot of speculation about whether this will actually suits china's interest to some extent by making russia even more dependent on that relationship. so that's the big asked at the europeans are coming with. and so far, there's not a huge signal from the chinese that they're really going to, that they're going to comply with it. that happens to from the national course editor, richard walker and correspondent, 5 young trach mother. thank you very much. and i am now joined by boys me out of it to a member of the german boon, the stark for the green party of which angelina babylon is also a member. and he's the vice chair of the german chinese parliamentary group. now,
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one question i want to start with the message that on a little bare book the has sent that to her chinese count about shouldn't have been a bit clearer. well, good morning. first of all, our message and alina beveled send was clear enough in my terms, it's clearly said, or she clearly said that europe stands together. european union is together in a strategy on rule of law and together on market issues. so if you want to access and, and, and make trade and business in european union, you have to deal with all $27.00 together. and this is a clear message to beijing to the communist party. there cannot be a selection of friends. there's only one european union. well, but the unity is not so great last week, french president, but my call made comments that suggested europe should not get dragged into an
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escalation between the us and china over taiwan. does he have a point? is the us really trying to provoke china? i don't think so. if you look under trade relations, taiwan has become one of the top 20 economies in the world. the dependence on chips on electronic devices is high. so she clearly made the point linux to have a clearly made the point. it would be devastating in china would go in aggression towards taiwan. so our interest in the european union is common. i heard the french president st statements, but i see him in the position with 26 partners. so, having a stand point of view in european union is one thing, but dividing the countries is another thing i see, you know, divide between parents and it. but the confusion you can see no.
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okay, i'm babble is and just the latest in a line of european politicians who have travel to, to china in the past 6 months. we just mentioned one call. put all the strips with all those different messages do more harm than good. you think it is important to be in touch to be in communication. we have had an air of free trade relations among the world. so it's important to be among the top countries, the largest economies, and well to be in discussions. and of course, we need more pressure on moscow to end up this aggression ukraine. still, people are daily dying every day, and we see aggression horrible crimes happening in ukraine. and it cannot be left alone that a permanent member of the security council is not aligning internationally and condemning the situation. any aggression in the world is a danger for the peaceful relations of trade of people. so if beijing is interested
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to be part of the free world to be part of this economic situations, then it should put pressure more pressure on moscow to and this aggression and to, and this criminal behavior of mr. pooty. now, more general terms, that the idea of german foreign policy towards china for the, at least for the last 2 decades, was to help democratize countries like russia or china through corporation and trade. was that a bit naive? you think? well, today it looks like to be a to have been a, but it was without alternative. people that made trade do not make war. that was the condition. so today we see maybe we have missed out a point on this. we have to look on the values as well. so we look into criminal activities like mister putin is doing with his aggression. and we say this cannot be, you know, ignored. if we follow international rules,
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then we will condemn aggression. if we don't follow international rules, we leave the flow from for any aggression anywhere in the world. and this cannot be an interest of countries have a free trade situation for as me are to which they're a member of the german parliament for the green party. and the vice chair of the german chinese parliamentary group. thank you very much. thank you and have a nice day let's have a look now at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. north korean has confirmed that it tested its 1st solid fuel intercontinental ballistic missile and released this video, allegedly showing the launch experts say thursdays test is the meaningful advance and building a nuclear arsenal with reach to hit targets in the u. s. cycling ill sub has hit northwestern australia with the strongest sustain winds. the country has ever recorded ill saw made landfall as
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a category 5 store one. friday morning before weakening as it moved inland. densely populated areas have so fi escape to major damage. germany has given the green light for poland to send 5 soviet era fighter jets to ukraine. also needed berlin's permission to send the planes on to a 3rd country because the aircraft came from the former east german air force. but germany is not planning to send any of its own. fight jets to you right now the war and ukraine has had wide reaching effects on europe's security infrastructure. finland decided to join nato, which led to the alliances border with russia, doubling in length. our correspondence, terry schultz reports now from near the finished town of the mantra on how the country plans to keep its border and nato's northeast and flag safe. ah, as to more than a century of self reliance and security,
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finland now has reinforcement. as the 31st member of nato sharing the alliance guarantee of mutual defense for decades, moscow had warned its western neighbour not to go there. the red light form for the rushes, you know was, are no access into nato. and of course, we were waiting for in some con reaction. we've seen what, what russia has done in ukraine. so basically, anything is possible, no one knows any more, whether there are any lines. the kremlin won't cross. it's believed perhaps half of russian forces normally stationed along the finished border, had been pulled into the war in ukraine. but it's not only soldiers, moscow uses to try to destabilize other countries. there's another tactic it employed several years ago that finland wants to guard against it as a significant number of immigrants are pushed by rushes to the finish border and crossing also also finished border and you know, we, we did manage those numbers. um, however,
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in all you will never know in all this is kind of a preparation for the future. by this, you ha, martelli is means the fence. finland is building along its border with russia near the city of e matter, about 250 kilometers north east of helsinki. he muttered. mayor mathias hilton says, for decades, city residence did not think of russia as a threat. large numbers of russians visit or live in a mattress, but that was before the kremlin launched war on ukraine. and now we don't have a look for the ability for that anymore. and that's why, though we have all thought everything differently on short nato. and that's why here, why ah, it's just so different word than what we were leaving when a half years ago. no one is sure what that different world will look like, and some fear, the worst people who had very clear and plans and know we're about the future there . so maybe i'll put that off for you and see how things go, you know,
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and that kind of thing. so in case what, well, just the uncertainty, i think is what it is. because do want to invest and put a lot of money into something and then you know, within a year or so, you know, be that it's under somebody else's control or something. it's like imaginary safety . i think the fantasy wouldn't really us president joe biden has hailed america's close ties with ireland in an address to its parliament in dublin, on his 3 day trip to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement . he said both countries were united in the conviction. the better days lie ahead. joe biden started his day with the irish head of state michael higgins, taking part in a tree planting ceremony. ha o and ringing the p. spell. his irish heritage never
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far from his thoughts this walmart, ah, or it would be the bell commemorates the good friday agreement, which ended decades of sectarian violence in northern ireland. but for the most part, the u. s. president's trip has been a light hearted one. visiting his ancestral home towns and joining the prime minister to watch a youth group and play the irish sport of commercial ve. and we're very fortunate to have you as president and u. s. administration that takes an active and if not daily, certainly weekly interest in irish affairs. we're one of only 200 countries in the world. and we're, we're very fortunate that sam were always high on the presence agenda. and under top of mind, or when he's dealing with our european affairs, that special relationship was friends of mine for biden,
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when he addressed the irish polonaise. my good friend, brock obama, is my good friend. his grandfather was a shoemaker like mine, sailed 5 weeks earlier from the same port, the idea they both sale for a new life and thought their grandchild. the great great grandsons would both be present. i think as really a little bit of irish malarkey with the u. s president hoping for a 2nd term in office. it's a message is sure to go down. well, with the 31000000 americans who claim irish ancestry, even if was targeted as irish america at the vote for the upcoming election, it doesn't take away from the genuineness of the actual sentiment on the last day of his to a bite and we'll meet some of his distant relatives is it
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a catholic shrine and make a speech in his ancestral home town of ballina to thailand, home of white, sandy beaches and crystal clear water. the images are alluring to tourists and on 50 lea islands. also draw in the sharks. during a years long break from human visitors at maya bay high numbers of black tiff black tip reef shocks have made the bay the home. the area was made famous the world over as it became the backdrop for leonardo dicaprio movie. the beach and now the tourists are back. for about 4 years, maya bay looked pretty much like this. mostly empty of people, and a prime spot for black tip reef sharks. a 100 to a 160 a day in this quiet, sheltered coral reef cove tie authorities had closed access in 2018 to mitigate the
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effects of tourism. and then the pandemic hit, keeping people away even longer and allowing the sharks. they're obviously not the jaws variety to flourish. oh, so now what with what was called a limited reopening in 2022. limited as in $375.00 visitors per hour. and no one allowed in the water over their knees, plus no boats, docking in the bay project. my a bay shark watch says the shark numbers are down by 3 quarters from their recent peak that's not unexpected and considered, well, ok. we're hoping that we are with the restriction in place. we can mitigate that service on them. and now we're doing this research in hopes that we can find ah, the best way for tourism and the environment to coexist. yeah, the have to save it. if you will let people go. so it we will destroy it.
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definitely. so i really appreciate the, the way that the close, the beats for the swimming probably does. because to save the nita barring another intervention, environmental stewards, no. this space will remain a tourist destination. but if the coral reef is now safe and $30.00 to $40.00 sharks still come here each day, it can still sort of be a win win. it's actually going to bring new ah tourism scheme as well. and are we going to benefit from that overall? so we don't talk about, you know, closing everywhere or reducing the tourism number that i think the talking about minutes in it wisely. as the tourist numbers to this famous beach whole to about 4000 a day. the research into black tip reef sharks can continue because now there are at least several dozen a day to track and that's it from me and the new scene for now all i would update
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