you how a single invention is helping to keep the ancient art of cloth dying alive in indonesia. this is dw business on kate ferguson. thanks for joining me. the world's largest industrial trade show is underway in however, it's the 1st time the event has taken place in its full form. since the pandemic over $4000.00 exhibitors are taking part showcasing the latest innovations in artificial intelligence, climate friendly technologies and industrial engineering. it's taking place against the backdrop of a fierce debase of the speed of development in a i, on the question of how best to regulate that technology. and we're going to speak a little bit more about artificial intelligence with nicola book. now she's that cd o as moronic. hi, nicole, me to have you here. now we're going to be hearing a little bit more about the innovations on display at hanover a little bit later,

but i want to ask you for a civil. a lot of people are genuinely afraid that a i is about to replace them in their jobs. what would you say to them? i would say that obviously with the newest of jennifer, i model a lot of the creative industry. right? kind of thought, hey, traditionally human task, how can the computer and algorithms list those are typically people who feed on the threat. i feel not an algorithm will replace you, but the person who will use the algorithm to augment their own work. so it is, it is more we need to master these tools to use them effectively in our everyday life. it will probably also affect the future, but mainly talk so we can all use it as an augmentation rather than a replacement. okay, but i have to say at the same time, there is really broad consensus, even among industry insiders, that we need regulation and we need at 51 of your take on that.

i agree that we need to think about the risks of artificial intelligence and some of these topics, i mean, affect, elections, affect information, affect bias, effect data, privacy is the truck. i feel the best way to state where the technology is going is also to create some of it. so to be honest, them are a tory that have be mentioned. i find them it naive. it's in a way that you can just put technology back in a box. i feel the most effective way to shape it and to think about how can we regulate and in an appropriate way. and also, for example, governments close become stakeholder and shareholders. and this technology by investing in them, and that means you have a seat at the table automatically in addition to, of course, finding a legal framework for what is okay and what is not okay to do when a call given some of those dangerous, we're talking about things like the spite of misinformation of bias. deep face,

a potential of job losses. how do you stay a tech optimist? while i look at the opportunities, every technology and address for them, the you can depends on the purpose you use this for. and i understand that of fighting for risks, but we should also have a mandate to look at the opportunities. and when i look at the opportunities in health care, in education and in other ways to kind of get rid of some task that amino to increase the impact of, of health care solutions provide access to people who currently don't have access. i just feel they outweigh the disadvantages and risks by far. and i still optimistic and human work. i think the systems that overall humanities trying to make this for the better play. all right, at optimistic note and nicole the ceo up around take. thank you so much. thank.

let's take you right into the middle of the accident in hanover. i reported not as richmond has been doing. the ryan's not as you are right in the thick of things. tell me about the latest innovations in a i that you're seeing at hanover well, one of a mess are really shines of bringing together the real world things of industry and virtual worlds. and there's actually one thing i wanted to show you is this 3 d scanner that you can use to just create a 3 d image of this industrial component. and what a does, it allows companies to really scale their production because they can cut in ways because they can measure more often as they go along in the production process. and this company doesn't just have this as a small piece. they also have it as a large application of a robot that right now scanning actually a car door and is assisted by laser technology to achieve this bridge between the real world and virtual worlds. okay,

so that's an interesting example of more industrial application because we've heard so much of by generative ai it's nice to see the other side to see what's happening on talked before is as well. no, i really want to ask you about germany. the trade ferry is kind of term institutions you can really say, but some business leaders have been criticizing jeremy, saying the country is no longer an attractive destination for innovation. what is your take on that? do they have a point? i mean, we are hearing hear from people at the fair that especially where you know, a red tape is concerned and bureaucracy. germany has a lot to learn and, and increase their efficiency in an innovation. now, chances schoultz at his opening remarks on sunday has really pledged to cut red tape, especially in, you know, in industrial production and, and really working on that. but one thing he's remained silent on is as subsidies

race as going on with the united states. as we speak, where the u. s. is trying to on shore. and especially electronics vehicles, production to the u. s. and brain green technologies there and germany hasn't really kept its pace there so far. okay. i want to talk to you about indonesia as well because indonesia is the partner country athens. here's events on it's been on a bit of a buying spring. how can i tell you about that? yes. so the president of initial yoga we don't actually was at the opening on sunday as well. and indonesia is very rich and in net for resources gold and nickel, which is used for battery production. and the chemicals giant p. s f and the automated volkswagen are in discussion with the news in the government to increase or an investment in indonesia. because and, and he doesn't just want to be the, the mind for the west. they actually want to bring investment there and create jobs

that do the dons from production and manufacturing of vehicles and the batteries that are used for alpha price vehicles. so there's a lot going on here at the fair, especially with investments globally. and you'll be keeping us up today throughout the week, not to stick with the hanover trade. thank you so much. now, while indonesia is showcasing its power in digital innovation of hanover, the country is also well known for its ancient crafts. the technique of batik involved using wax to die cloth. it's a long and labor intensive process and in some regions at risk of dying ice. and our next or force will meet an engineer who's come up with an innovative solution to ensure his families batik business moves with the times. the melted wax is ready using counting a traditional pen like tool. this hot substance known as milan is inscribed on a piece of cloth. despotic technique requires high precision and typically needs

between 2 and 3 months to finish. one piece, andy city are so understands the struggles to maintain this artisan old technique. when he took over his family boutique business, he encountered challenges with production and market competition. family up up a young under the bi. think mon, while there are many challenges in making hand made by cheek 1st lead batches, artists are becoming scarce. the younger generation who once liked to making batik, are now hard to find people besides that by cheek printing appeared. which does not follow the standard handmaid process. the and we've got money will be back on, but the, the entrepreneur is based in the province of yoga carta on the island of java. unesco has recognized the craft of batik as an intangible cultural heritage. for andy, it's important to maintain the uniqueness of this production style as

a solution, and he invented a batik machine, which he's named blue team. oh, the idea was to create this by tick drawing machine in line with his professional standards. joe bir, marco company research how to design the technology for use in the basic process. i was hoping by using this technology, the basic process can be faster and more productive and looking to pot. now it can be reduced to a matter of days. so that's what we're trying to do, and we hope that in the future back will be more competitive in the market. and they're going to find the about the curriculum, but they've, if they've lost out of budget exports in indonesia have great potential. having already reached more than $500000000.00 us dollars each a coyote has purchased a machine. she's a bad take entrepreneur who has been in business since 2010. by using the beauty mom machine, batek production is far more efficient. she says it can reduce production costs by

30 percent coming to get the that we can't get rid of traditional makers. because even though we have these machines, we still need them for special complicated jobs. usually when making lines under half a millimeter. for example, the granite motif batek, this motif requires dots though the motif looks like a line um would be an iep of granny, letting the human element work alongside beauty. moma sheen's is also in line with andy city are so's goal of helping this handicraft be appreciated. for years to come to some of the other global business stories making news, germany's industry association says the country is a risk of becoming less competitive. the b, i says german act 4th will lose market share this year and that hi alex with the bills are pushing an increasing number of german companies to make investments outside the country. it's calling for energy to become more affordable with german industrial join. siemens has been awarded

a contract worth more than 300000000 euros to make thing of course, longest metro line driverless the company will equip the line with signaling technology, platform, screen doors. siemens metro automation is already used in singapore, brazil, among other countries. and a reminder of our top story, the world's largest industrial trade show is underway in hanover, germany. it's the 1st time the event has taken place in its full form. since the pandemic over $4000.00 exhibitors are taking part. so casing the latest innovations and our special intelligence climate friendly technology, industrial engineering that wraps up our show for more you can always check out d, w dot com flash business. we're also on the t w, youtube channel. do tech aside there for me on the entire business team here in berlin. it's good by sticking with

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