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culture information is either way you knew d w me from mine's i just got it. it's a thought say what grade he will be with. ah, a woman is buried here in the cemetery of the southern polish community of pish, gena. she only lived to the age of 30. ah, isabella's law of swindle. natasha isabella died because the doctors didn't help us
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copious at one long. and because of our abortion when poland was stubborn. ah, but about us global as the deceased woman's sister in law, she rarely comes to ease as grave as the anger and grief overwhelmed her. she little jean guts. oh, we have to carry this heavy burden and learn to live without isa. la maya, what's your school's football? and we have to support her daughter my answer to this, i found it hard to talk about my feelings because i know what little my as going through the isa tourist, or she says as the mice, because she lost her mother my or to her labor, was stopped and he's
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a died much like 6 other women in a similar situation who were also in danger of losing their lives as their goal. say a good my brother gregory and the whole family blame not only the doctors but politicians to it pulled because of them. and that was they are the ones who tightened the abortion little to function is we're still waiting for just tell us. but if you pushed the youth, donna, that's easy. how aah! isabella sideboard was a hair dresser. she was always changing her hair color and hair styles for fun. mm.
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due to complications and the 22nd week of her pregnancy isa was admitted to this hospital and pushed jenna is as go sure she had allergies. i went to the hospital on september 20th 2021 or showed me to she died the next morning at 7 o'clock last them coming here. but alo, after either was admitted to the hospital, doctors found the fetus was severely deformed and there was no amniotic fluid. isa already had an infection caused by the fetus. yet the doctors did nothing. poland, strict law prohibits terminations even on fetuses which are non viable. these are sent messages to her husband from her hospital bed. it does it, does these other messages which i have to wait until the features, his heart stops beating thanks to the peace government? there is no other way. why. maybe they will do something if they have to save my life. it's terrible that they have such regulations. so my
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o these as infection led to sepsis which caused her deaf warsaw mid january 2023. a crowd outside the court house is waiting for a woman who has been on trial for months for assisting. and abortion uses out that once keys are 33 years in the socialist, poland, we could decide on our own fatina tain. ideally, we had to portion of it, but we also gave birth to children. i'm not concentrating how pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. it's not just a step backwards. now, everything is going downhill here. now william justina visions hska has become a symbolic figure in poland. and activists to fight for the unrestricted right to abortion, and helps pregnant women in need. she could be imprisoned for up to 3 years for
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sending a woman an abortion pill. there is solidarity both in poland and abroad. i'm here to support us on a day or 2 with justina because them has been hearing from people from the drain in refugees living in poland and who are basically coming here and then realizing that they cannot access. and it was, you know, they need, once in poems, today could be the day of the verdict for your stint, of that is jenica. it's the deciding phase of the landmark case. ah, the staff members of abortion, dream team support justina the founder of the organization. the little on that the customer i've, i'm nervous like i am every time it's very stressful. they're in today. i heard from one of the female politicians here that it will be more like a marathon than a sprint. unfortunately, 13 albums, you michigan, i might have thought,
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i hope my strength will last a little longer. you started off with the trial and the related protests are being followed from far beyond poland, borders with the sports that it is a political trial against an activist who sent an abortion pill to a woman who needed help with. uh huh. yes. then a vision sca has been helping women to obtain abortions for 17 years. so far she is avoided trouble with a legal system, as she simply gave pregnant women advice on ordering abortion pills abroad. but during the pandemic, she shipped the medication herself. legally, a crucial difference. she was reported by the partner of the pregnant woman who used the abortion pill. you stand over there, jessica sent. he will be heard as a witness to day.
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i don't. the pregnant woman contacted justina vision sca because she was in an abusive relationship, and the abortion pill from abroad did not arrive during the pandemic. for u. n, a video to jessica, this was an emergency. did she know what she was risking when she sent the pill? which our law, i knew photoshop. i'd been working in the field for years. i know abortion law. i would be lying if i said i didn't know the risk i was taking. well, i mean, i knew it very well, not the math, but in that situation i just had to send her the abortion pills. it wasn't. there was no other. hey, this was just to show you the own. oh, since the abortion law was further strengthened in 2020, there have been mass protests in poland. a legal termination is only possible if the pregnant woman has been rate or her life is in danger. according to polls, 70 per cent of polish people are against the stricter law.
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but there is also approval for the strict law. we visit the large pulido family near woods ana pulido has 7 children with an 8th on the way. she is very religious and says she would never have an abortion even if her life were in danger. oh yeah. they put in with because after lunch and selfishness shouldn't stuff that's from having children did on usually chalk each new life costs us some about an energy hog at the good. you need to have as harriage to lose a part of your life and gain new life on the basis as ah, ana povey do takes care of her children full time and also home schools. them together with her husband. the couple have set up
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a catholic foundation to promote homeschooling. ana advises other families than gives workshops. oh mother, along with the child benefit they receive around $110.00 euros per child per month . the family has enough to live on. once a year, the children are tested by a state school ana and her husband can not imagine a better life for their large family. ah, oh hey little and let them whatever it was for us. it's very important that the family is always together in like in the holy family, where mary was the teacher of jesus and he grew up in his father's can. like always such his parents who went to educate their children. well zoom noticed that public schools take something away from them. for instance, the influence they want to have only children. my own legit she ana privy do is
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currently preparing one of her workshops for pregnant women, which she holds in catholic communities around which they are steeped in the strict catholic values by which she and her family live. as of those of it's funny in guam shine, we women have to take a back seat and that is our destiny. as mothers and latke la nature has created as to give and protect live attention. brazil, danya at the moment of woman decides to have an abortion. they must be a huge drama in ha, ha, j said phone she, the color with drama, that even will always be punished on that false. the evil here is the killing of another human being a tow vehicle i, for on a potent do having an abortion is like running a child over in the street. good. ah.
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back to the trial of activist houston, a vision sca in warsaw. good. further witnesses are being questioned. jakob swanny of ski is in the court room as an observer. he is a member of the ultra conservative lawyers association, or do you, reese, which aims to further restrict the abortion law. his association is well connected to the polish government the hearing ends with no verdict for use than a vision sca and a new appointment is fixed. daniel with fun, eubanks, we haven't, i'm no more exhausted than before. in fact, i'd say that i've regained a little energy from i'm glad things are moving forward. i'm sure the pub, ah, with
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222922597, call us there are still abortion pills and terminations available abroad. the activists shout into the crowd. 7 7 7 ah, the anti abortion protesters are also demonstrating in front of the court house by playing the sound of a baby crying over the loudspeakers. her. oh, thank ya, keep swanny of sky of ordo juris leaves the courtroom without giving an interview. he later invites us into his law firm as a representative of the public interest, or do you, reese is allowed to participate in the trial. the christian fundamentalists have
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few supporters in society, but are well connected to the ministry of justice. order you reese is fighting to assign the legal status of a patient to a fetus. it's not on the front of me. go to the post selfish ability full sir. you know, review when it comes to abortion access, the legalization is much better in poland than in many other countries, especially european once a month. however, we still have some objections and we are trying to extend the protection of unborn life in different ways. good uncle. oh, susan, elfin alicia, or something or do you read has prepared a report for the court, pointing out that e u law does not actually accept abortion. friendship promoted, i'll be more the term facilitating an abortion can mean many things. so it wasn't affordable. it could be assistance with a surgical termination or liquid, or it could mean handing over an abortion pill that from the one issue,
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whether the pill is delivered by mail or handed over personally on either way, enables the termination of a pregnancy with lucas with back to you st inevitably shantika the 49 year old lives in a small town near warsaw and has 3 children. the worst actually is, i'm not sure if i'm on a subway in warsaw and a young woman suddenly approaches me and asks him justina. let me hug gardner sienna, being recognized on the street is new for me if it's not is to use then of id. the reasons can never wanted to become famous. busy the fact that she is a full time activist today has to do with her own story. natasha wagner. my a lot. see it all started. when i had an abortion in 2000 sex, said the kid, the shall come less. you be at that time. i was completely on my own as about 2 hours of pockets. it's new thing from one thing. it was hard to get any information
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. and then that the, for example, how to take the abortion counseling of ya young. that's cool. that's like there were many different sellers wanted to show 100 and everyone recommended a different dosage. it saw it. so yeah. then for england of california, she terminated her pregnancy at the time because her husband was abusive. she has no regrets. why i want to have one on the bottom of she, abortion was a turning point in my life, the script annexed with us. it was an experienced that allowed me to regain my self determination. and my body is at 2 am. i started to see myself completely differently as a woman. shortly afterwards used in a vision sca gave up her job as a chemist and founded the abortion dream team. back at the hospital and pish, jenna. bought about us global is suing the doctors who were treating her sister in law isa. when she died in
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the hospital, he's got an infection and had a fever of 40 degrees. oh mama. oh good. alyssa de la glare, very angry at the doctors. as we see and they didn't help isa rush to me, they did nothing at all. which cost either her light fixture in dallas facility and they are still working here in this hospital if all soon they will briefly suspended, but now they are back and working. hes not done it like a mockery for us will you? it makes a mockery of our tragedy penal. the snow shaped the good but about us global is still waiting for an answer as to why the doctors behaved the way they did. the prosecutor's office is only just filing the indictment at this point, the trial has not yet begun. mm. the hospital refuses to comment on the case in front of our camera. they release
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a written statement. due to the political context of this case, we do not give interviews at a public hearing on abortion in poland at the european parliament in brussels. but about us global reported on her sister in law's death. we handle the extent of it and then to brussels, to tell them about the situation. my family is in ought to me to tell them what influence the legislation has undocked his decisions and patience lives with us on shelter. i believe this is something that should be openly talked about, but you about how much suffering the tightened. bullshit. lewis inflicting on women publics if you could give to lawyer. yolanda buds up sco writes, a blog giving information about medical errors during childbirth. wilson through she is representing ease of family and another family with a similar case sister in law, families lawyer shed, she too, was present at the public hearing in the european parliament in brussels. she said,
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phone doctors weights off the scope, treating some kenya a little paloma, the reactions of the m e p. 's were very moving. who also you could see that isa story, as well as the situation of polish women in general, touched the parliamentarians very much out of the portal. sheila urged of every school or else we reported how easy was treated in the hospital, you know, and how she died there go. yes, it made it very clear what damage laws can do to people. so by the yuk, a daughter of a she had a chief as a lawyer, yolanda knows what a predicament the stricter abortion law puts doctors in more and more women have been denied an abortion even if there were grounds for it. they are increasingly contacting yolanda or with this one, i swap some must. the female patient saw the weakest link in this situation. usually near my years of labs, it stopped as always designed what is legally the safest option for themselves. so
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they can avoid prosecution 8 without them, sean federal, emerald seal. not enough, but even with all the emotional blackmail interests. and i can kind of understand the doctors and stuff though i represent the victims family, but i think em, but go live on that. but she had that attend off the felt to the need to make a quick decision on the spot damage weather. and when to perform an abortion from toys that us, that saddam such, ah and the nipple calona of convent on a po. v do is preparing a workshop for pregnant women with her oldest daughter and in co operation with the nuns. her courses are offered for pregnancies with complications. ah, the chavez, i always look forward to these workshops. they're attended by wonderful women from all over poland and even from abroad,
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who come here to celebrate life cheerfully to them so that happy that they can be mothers smuggled. but they also come to cry over they wounds and they pain. all that has been difficult for them for their choice in you, boise, but it's, you know, walnut cove yet. so when the home is carrying a life inside it, it is full of light hung upon us. it is glowing because god is united with the little soul yakima. is there anything more beautiful than being pregnant? and i encourage is the women to trust in god and pray if they are facing problems and fears you move in to day. i can proudly say that i'm like an empress. isn't the good as not? because i had this is erin, but because god has given me a new value. and you dignity level goals most.
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ah ah, some amount because of the kid didn't i had to diagnoses of difficult ectopic pregnancies myself emotional goal? still in my heart, i felt that my life is not worth more than the life of the unborn child trustful that i trusted in god, and i am a life and he was such. a child should never be killed out of fear for the mother's life. because we are mothers, we bear life, we must not forget the hurt of it's a fantasy that only total mon applebee day was 8 child is due in 4 months. and she can imagine having even more children with.
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ready march 2023 in warsaw euston ivy that a jessica has more trial days coming up. whatever the less i work in the warsaw office of abortion dream team must go on. ustinov editions guy is in high demand. these days were ukrainian women are coming forward . who were raped during the war and want to have an abortion. ready ready oh fact i pro say yes, please go to the website, women health dot org dot org in not this there. you can order the abortion pel, the black blue. oh well i how has the dot org roman had caught up? got oregon was off shuttle, which again provided to the women who call me always want to tell me why they want
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the abortion this need to justify their wish comes from the stigma. see miss that. i mean, we want to ease things a bit for the women, a parent, and we say these are even if it sounds harsh in us that we are not interested in the reason for the abortion me. and i knew that as well of all the electrical egyptian violence fail osben chandra. normally, abortion dream team also offer seminars for women, but there is no time for that at the moment. oh, it's march 14th, 2023 and the verdict is expected to day. you are not alone, the crowd chance yep, i ne, simply not guilty. if any state is to blame, the prosecutor presents new evidence against houston, a visitor jenika, her appearance and the polish parliament when she appealed for more liberal access
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to abortion. in addition to the prosecutor, there was another observer from the ultraconservative lawyer's association. or do you, reese? she requests a fine for you than ever that is jenica, as well as a restriction on her movements. you still have that agenda as defense attorney protests with the order you do, use representative has severely overstep the mark. she is not a plaintiff in the law suitable. therefore, she is in no way authorized to propose any penalties whether she may give her opinion on the case in general, but she is not allowed to propose any sentencing euston a visit is jenica herself, pleads not guilty. look after the break, the verdict is announced. justina visions, guy and her companions, have dressed up to celebrate the landmark case. it is after all, a historic judgement for polish women. i see the defendant
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justina vision. scott is found guilty of assisting a pregnant woman in the termination of her pregnancy by sending her the abortion pel. euston a visitor. jessica is sentenced to 8 months of community service and rated by the activists. like a hero o lum. you the dogs up are do, am he who would i go and poured us before me. the real verdict came much earlier after the court hearing in february, we received a letter from another day, the woman i sent the pill to exit. she thanked me for helping her that in that doesn't that that yeah, but thing that, tanya, yes no hand these are a bullshit pails is going to be. what you still did is not a crime you most of it's just them some thought. what is the 70 percent of people in poland? want me cannot be a crime. is it that but for yes, wow, you stand
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a vision sca says, ironically that she already completed her 8 months of social work long ago, emphasizing that she will continue to help women in need of an abortion in the future. the day after the trial, the judge who passed the sentence was promoted. ah, nothing will stop this way. we are all like ah, yes, then every 3 chance guy is happy that the trial is finally over the cache them one of them get them of us, find the ship, my own experiences with an abusive partner kept coming up that they were hard moments for me it's the memories kept re emerging now, but it's hard even years later to think about what i experienced with him get be a lot i'll and yet that the living says that of the most are stressful was the 1st day of the trial that us will now i'm exhausted,
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everything is boiling up in his i mean yeah. if shadows, i don't work here anymore at the me. i'm not nervous anymore. he has thought that i am tired all. it was in the difficult time on your daughter. i know what, what else 3 is the total. natasha itala. bmw. you stand a visions cuz i'll but also ease as death. have moved the country very much. is us still young? yes. gosh, just the, he's a from bush turn out. i lost her life in a polish hospital because of the doctors did nothing good. can you just you to pick that up for sky? they did not act to save her life for you and you look on the volley needs, needs o, are you calling in for the doctors? it is more important to cover their box legally, venetia, lunch, walterboro. instead of saying the woman's like that unusual, a book, a glass door or usually jacqueline each mm. ease as family is
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left with only grief and anger and a message inscribed on ease as gravestone. ah, there will be no more must only vehicle we will never come to terms with us and for which much we her life was taken away. go to a woman who had a whole life ahead of her all her plans, all her dreams which upsets all gospel plan of emotion. ah ah ah a
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