is punishment given to an opposition figure in russia. since fulton came to power after sham trial and moscow, vladimir kara, morsa was sentenced to 25 years in prison. his lawyer says the verdict could well be a death sentence. the 41 year old has severe health problems as being poisoned, not once, but twice in the past decade convicted of treason of collaborating with an undesirable organization and spreading what the kremlin calls fakes about the war in ukraine. ker moore's and now faces a quarter of a century behind bars. but he remained defiant after hearing the verdict. he said, russia will be free. tell everyone i'm the cough really can berlin and this is the day. ah, this is not a wife sense with they will basically kill him in prison. this is absolutely

nightmarish. what we're going through as a family. so i'm crying on the inside right now. my friend and my colleagues because what they're doing to him is just truly and who may hey, has proven time. and again that he would not doubt that he would not abandon his flight. and so i think that that student has probably achieved one of his big games, which is to effectively terrorize zone, sort of they hate him so much for his consistency for his courage. also on the day the ukrainians, refusing to leave their homes on the front line is my only mom. this is my homeland . i was born here, lived here. all my life. my parents are better to you. i don't want to leave my home when you could. you reference the field. welcome to the show. he was one of the people behind the magnet ski act,

the international legislation that exposed vladimir putin, inner circle to acid freezes and travel restrictions. now let me recur. morsa has been sentenced to 25 years in prison by moscow court. the journalist and politician has been involved in opposition activities for over 2 decades. it was a close friend and ally of the assassinated kremlin critic boris nymphs off the harsh punishment for kara more strong widespread criticism around the world. after the verdict was read, his wife, who lived in the united states with a couple of 3 children, praised his courage, consistency, and honesty. he has proven time and again that he would not back down that he would not abandon his fight, that he would not betray his country and betray his ideal that he would keep on fighting. and this sentence shows that they are so

afraid of him. and they hate him so much for his consistency for his courage, for his for his amazing bravery. it says absolutely knight marriage, what we're going through as a family. but it is also absolutely not marriage. what we're going through as the country the russian state has made russia a country aggressor talking to russia analyst maria sniggle via from the center for strategic and international studies in washington dc. good to see. thank you for coming on d. w today. what is your reaction to the verdict? well, just as everybody else. so when you are watching her personally and gather things with martin, his courage and commitments are just fighting for your crew, for russian, for, for free and democratic russia. and of course, will force by of i was going on because this is really outrageous,

even by gremlins own standards where the bar unfortunately, has been really, really low. yet what do you say about the severity of the punishment? because it is striking isn't definitely a quarter century for watching or who suffers from a bunch of health conditions. because just reminded that the graham and tried to poison me twice in the past with the substance, allegedly similar to the chalk, the agent. and there are 2 consequences to his home. so this is for sure, really, really dangerous situation and top of everything else, right. and just being charged for staying in prison for a quarter century. clearly, that's prevalence. punishment for the effort pledging to propose and implement assumptions towards no dissenters towards the against the kremlin officials,

the perpetrators in the keys of monkeys, the 2006, dev. we're back in russia. destro only everything on the government side. and officials with a signal for all of us outside of russia who are actually trying to prosecute kremlin, for this insistence stream of atrocities that been committed in russia domestically . but now, so sort of russia in the crate, in particular, in the horse try to create this perception of fear. that socially, no matter how much you try or you'll end up losing this game. i guess that's the idea that the court is clearly making an example out of him there. i want, i want to get your view. what does this mean for this and in russia, and for people from russia, who are, you know, working for the opposition or against the regime from outside the country? just one small point that it's deliver it right then one of our judges on our

blood was trial was well sir? g for the big water or who was personal included in the mac needs coolest. the least. as i said, that legendary has been advocated. that's very clearly a signal on the kremlin side of what the punishment is for. well, i have to say to wagner's credit, it means that sanctions bite, it means that they're creating a lot of problems with the kremlin. therefore, the problem has to go for this. you know, juggle with this hurdles in order to prosecute him. but of course it's the so it's a very doesn't are in the russian history. and this feels like the evil inside of russia has at least temporarily, at least for now has one. but of course, of legendary zone example officers and inspiration of all of us to continue fighting and continue prosecuting the kremlin. just to prevent this horrible things from happening. i'm going forward. he has vowed to not give up. how can he keep up

the fight from inside the prison whoa, legendary scroll, influential, especially internationally. and does his words are the information that he communicates just recently had published a note that in washington, both for example, right there will continue to be influential and even more so now that he could literally suffered so much for being able, you know, to say. and do all this things that he's been doing so certain way and she will continue to exert a lot of influence. hopefully that will be a possibility in the future to perhaps exchange him since he's a british citizen and i got a thing. so hopefully that remains on the table. i haven't said that i think it's on us, all of us will still free in still our lives outraged by what the kremlin is doing in the name of russians started to continue trying to block them. and if one is lead immerse example source, one to ministration is it, is that the sanctions bite and they create

a lot of problems for the kremlin clearly. so we should definitely continue pushing assumptions as russia analyst maria's think of via thank you so much for your time . thank you. ah omer german chancellor. i'm glad maggie has received germany's highest awards. marika is only the 3rd person to have received the gram cross order of merit for special achievement. after a former chancellor is going on an hour and having court from president fund by the stein lab phrase marco for holding germany and europe together for times of crisis . and our political correspondence, i'm young joins me now. simon, but of a throwback there thing. marika and the german president together. what did you make of the event? yeah, that's right. to this, a ward of the federal cross of merit is in the gift of the german

president. and there is an odyssey right there because he was the german president, frank bouncer stein my. he was the many years foreign minister of germany and angle americans. so essentially was giving this top on the, the highest honor that germany has seen to gave. and she's received the, by the way, in, in this are the top for the great cross goals. so she's got the highest honor if you received it, as it were from a former subordinate and frank about this time i made a speech that was personal and heartfelt praising anger mer, who's qualities really have the com, reflective approach. her a sense of compromise and the sort of factual and intelligent way. she went about dealing with problems and did she talk, he talked about her principles and so on. and of course,

he mentioned the fact that she was suggested, his 1st female chance was the 1st chancellor to come from east in jeremy. so it was more about you might say at what she was, then rather what she did. that seems to be why she's been given this award. and one other thing, all of this happening in front of a small handpicked audience, including the kind of people you'd expect. politicians like lafond july and the european commission president. but also the former german national soccer coach, you've been cleansed, was there. so it was in many ways i think, a rather old ceremony. and not everyone has a whole heartedly welcomed her, receiving the mattel, even some members of her own party and voice criticism. not those present in the room of course. well, that's right. and indeed the current leader of the american party, the christian democrats, was not invited. frederick minutes, he wasn't there, but to some in that party have criticize many things about anglo medical. you could

say the parties moved away from her. of course, since she left the office in particularly they recall the decision back in 2015 during the refugee crisis. as it was cold, to allow 1000000 refugees to come into germany, some say that the stabilize, the country wasn't properly thought through. and it's led to the rise of the far right alternative for germany party. other people recall her decision to press ahead with the switching off of germany's nuclear power stations we've just seen last weekend. the last 3 of those switched off some say that will create enormous problems for germany industry going forward. and then i think the big one of cause her policy on russia and keeping close to russia, keeping dog. busy open with vladimir putin, that's been under a lot of criticism,

synced, rushes full scale invasion of ukraine. and of course again, that was a policy carried and promoted by frank voucher. stop my now, germany's president. so again, you could say in a certain sense, he was awarding himself a federal cross today. so all the aspects. so is he left the office roughly a year and a half ago. how did german citizen view her legacy? yeah, there was a pole a few months ago suggesting that 40 percent of germans, for instance, thought that angle america would do a better job than the current chancellor in dealing with the ukraine crisis. but around half of the germans pulled in that same poll said they didn't think she would do much better. i think there are people who look back fondly to her time after all. she was elected johnson 4 times in a row. and they want that sort of safe pair of hands. but on the other hand, i think is also said is a lot of people have begun to forget about angle immacule. and they look at the

world's problems as they all now. and the current government hoping could solve some of them. simon young, thanks a lot. the ukraine, every day life in the front line cities is a gamble. civilians find themselves under fire from rockets and artillery shells on a near daily basis. every decision to leave home to get food or supplies can have deadly consequences. but there are people who are staying and they have very different reasons for taking that risk. the w max and i joined an evacuation team of ukrainian police as they tried to persuade people to lead these guys, ukraine. the sign reads, it seems very clear how people here feel and yet, and frontline towns like this. we find stories that are complicated. these men are trying to get people to leave kanadi and to meet ro belong to a police, have accusation unit nicknamed white angels sample court. the modeling was a boy,

was a leak. um apple really got a new quest for this. and for this week, i wish it was more know about the bits of through live, what they bought on the bus. this was home for more than 32000 people before the war. bombs and shells still fall and this ruined place. the russian forces are making gains still about 2000 people choose to remain a resilience point. there's t, electricity and company. my number, you said was injured special. usually, you know, you could you could you reference to the local green for you, which you don't you mean,

you know, now d and dmitri have been asked to visit one particular couple. the man's daughter asked the policeman to get them out. they have moved underground was her. it was a bunker, legislative lam, videos of us. but a fellow simply breakdown leo proper deviate, dr. those out to will. she was your name of which the point of north east and that gives you that was for their home. i do watch and i do show that louis of mine was of the college and her bow away to know how the wish was pretty g, georgia supreme. it was but she woke up with your help with because it's kind of fear is what's keeping them absolutely. when you use, yes, it just was, you know,

that you, you haven't been there by, you know, you know, chicago for much to switch for police officers. can't force people to leave. and rush in propaganda has left some scared of the ukrainian authorities. more lie and why the much us le lumiere, new jim may, was a my number, anyone from i believe, the book raska, the brain which will, on 400 bench for priscilla's symbol dinner. over the summer. we have to stop filming and seek shelter. that i am was a bit more likely. as soon as it's safe, we go to where the bomb hit. it's. well we were just finishing up with that lady in the basement room, just a few 100 meters away. we heard a big bang and this is the aftermath of the lot that impacted here is

a few minutes ago, literally and hooked his whole place apart. that's every day later and this was the town's market. this woman came to sell household goods and she isn't hurt, but you can see she's in shock. of these go was a frontline city long before the russian full scale invasion of 2022 frontline not only in the physical war but also in the fight for people's loyalties. brushing back rebels were in control for a brief period in 2014 before the ukrainians. took it back. not everyone here is happy about that. no less earlier. the key we paul, to pay a clear year to coach that was on the whole was go home, little. i mostly lou are in for my to roster swanky is boring extra credit in there yet. like you re book a always or 3 more. well, this was, will bespoke ukraine, took you through the yet the key cup o got dora pacific, misconceived, or were you in the play store in your or did she,

the offices of the white angels can offer a way out of town. for those who want to take it, i want to go ahead and bring an antonia ram choke. he is the co founder of the n g o base you a. he joins us from crime, a tourist and eastern ukraine, where he coordinates. evacuations of civilians from embattled towns and villages much like the white angels we just saw there. and i'm good to see you. i understand your work is quite similar to what we just saw in the report. can you tell us about the situation where you are? hi, you know, thank you for having me. as you just said, i'm income a tourist, but we work along the whole eastern trunk line. mostly then yes, could region and forgotten screeching in the past, but also go to hockey region. generally the vaccination is pretty slow at the moment either because the cities from which people would like to get out around

accessible or yeah, because most of those that want to leave have left already. so it's much more kind of specialized work that we're doing these days trying to kid people with the medical conditions. so bedridden patients, so to say, or patient, or people that need additional assistance or, or we tried to organize more risky and yet more difficult operations to get people out of really hotspots that are very difficult to access them. so a lot of risk assessment and preparation in order to succeed and, and to also bring people out safely. have you also found yourself in a position of having to convince people to leave? yeah, we've been doing that since then. one,

basically we started working in civil been yes, and it's a chance and, and especially by them and that region regarding the region and especially those 2 cities were cut off from, from mobile network and internet. basically, it's a couple of weeks after the invasion started. so there was lots, also lots of really wrong information going on, or just different, like iran, you know, sort of fragmentary perceptions of how things are beyond the cities that people were in. so it was boss, just bring in more information and more options and more understanding to people. and then just also convincing them because many were just afraid of leaving. so trying to dismantle their fears that for some, sometimes on time, because obviously it made no sense if they were afraid, then they had to leave because staying in the cities that we're about to,

to be taken over was, was not rational. so we have, we are, we're convincing people all the time, but we also know our limits and many people that stay behind actually have a good reasoning setting. you also have to set those up for them to, to do something they want. obviously, i want to dig a little deeper into something you just said there the, the role of information and all of this. we often say that this is also a war of words. and people's perception can, of course, be shaped and distorted by propaganda. so how difficult is it for people in ukraine, especially in the east, where you are operating to navigate the information landscape? it is quite difficult. obviously people relied on certain sources. most of them consumed new as mostly through television, which was then available for most of them. and then russia does a very good job there. whenever they move close enough,

they actually create radio stations and then tried to transmit. and the signal is very, very strong. that they're mobile network, especially in regards to the gym. you could actually use the so called the look on their sim cards in the st. john's. so there was no signal there, but you could actually use the guy that work so, so they really try hard to, to come in and step in into device that are created once the regular channels are cut off. and on our side like inbox, for example, and on and all that many said in sensors that were set up by the volunteers. one of the most important thing that was present, there was startling connection. so people could actually go online and see for themselves how things are outside of the city and ukraine, and obviously in the general scope of the conflicts. and also we had the ukrainian television running there, the official model,

which only provides news and things that have been fact checks so, so that, that is a very important part. and yet we're also trying to contribute there to, to try to bring as many options and to, for the people. so they can also make up their own mind. obviously, you know, we don't have much time. but i do want to ask you about this because something that really struck me in the report we just saw is that, you know, people living and destroyed settlements under constant fire from russian forces would still support russia. have you found an explanation for yourself to, to rationalize that in a way it's just, you know, narratives that the people kind of have followed for their whole lives. and once you're in the specific mindset, you know, it's obviously, it's easier to explain with a conspiracy theory once, once you believe in conspiracy, it doesn't matter what is being told to you. you will always find

a way of actually, you know, just confirming the conspiracy theory and confirming your bias. so it is actually very easy to understand once once you see it because people have, they just don't see the whole picture. but for, for the specific things that they try, that trying to explain, they have a very kind of reasonable logical structure in their minds. so i don't think it's like something unique to the specific context that just is just when, when people are very much convinced and biased then and then whatever happens around them kind of just falls into that, that picture of life that they have until you're em took joining us from eastern ukraine from crime, a tourist. thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. thank you. thank you. and we end with a wildfire encounter, which came just a little too close for comfort. david oppenheimer was relaxing at home reading

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