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nowhere near a european spot in the from early table and are still looking for their 1st when under interim boston, frank labarte. and here is what that part had to say about chelsea situation. where not where we want to be. like the word broken is a bit much, but we know we want to be not as clearly position as a reality and a premier league returning down in the sky. so i think i'm, i think just reality, we have to work against up up next sunday w. it is close up, taking a closer look at polish women fighting for abortion rights. i'm sarah kelly. thanks for watching. with trio taking on thy durian trafficking edwards. with for this, did this over those mounting evidence that nigerian human trafficking and forced upon the tuition are also taking place. hearing from school with the trio,
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combating sheet dealings starts april 29th on d, w. ah, a woman is buried here in the cemetery of the southern polish community of pish, gena. she only lived to the age of 30. ah, isabella's law of swindle, not over isabella died because the doctors didn't help us cookies up to along. and because of our emotional unparalleled stopper, ah! but about us global is the deceased woman's sister in law. she rarely comes to ease
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as grave as the anger and grief overwhelm her. she little did guts. oh, we have to carry this heavy burden and learn to live without isa. is la maya. what's your school's spool? and we have to support her daughter maya. just after. i found it hard to talk about my feelings because i know what little my as going through it isa to raise or she says as the mice, because she lost her mother. my are or to valet, but restructured he's a died much like 6 other women in a similar situation who were also in danger of losing their lives as their garcia could my brother gregory and the whole family blame not only the doctors but politicians to improve the cause of them and that was they are the ones who tightened the abortion lol to filtered his. we're still waiting for just tell
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us by the the bush today is dumber that's is as house out there. she lived here on the corner to talk to spin over tonight or one. how could a healthy young pregnant woman like ease at die so suddenly? ah, visa bella sideboard was a hairdresser. she was always changing her hair color and hair styles for fun. mm. due to complications and the 22nd week of her pregnancy isa was admitted to this hospital and push. jenna is as good as you or should i louise. i went to the hospital on september 20th 2021 or should we?
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she died the next morning at 7 o'clock. lost them couldn't go via, but alo, after isa was admitted to the hospital, doctors found the fetus was severely deformed and there was no amniotic fluid. isa already had an infection caused by the fetus. yet the doctors did nothing. bowlens strict law prohibits terminations even on fetuses which are non viable. visa sent messages to her husband from her hospital bed. it does, it does these other messages which i have to wait until the features, his heart stops beating his anger to the peace government? there is no other way why. maybe they will do something if they have to save my life. it's terrible that they have such regulations. so my ease as infection led to sepsis which caused her deaf warsaw mid january 2023, a crowd outside. the court house is waiting for a woman who has been on trial for months for assisting and abortion.
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if you choose to doctor once keys authority, 3 years in the socialist, poland, we could decide on our own fatality. ideally, we had abortions, but we also gave birth to children. i'm not sensitive and how pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. it's not just a step backwards. now, everything is getting downhill here now by william euston. a vision sca has become a symbolic figure in poland. an activist who fights for the unrestricted right to abortion, and helps pregnant women and need she could be imprisoned for up to 3 years for sending a woman an abortion pill. there is solidarity both in poland and abroad. i'm here is up with us on a day to with justina because them has been hearing from people from the drain, refugees living info and, and who are basically coming here and then realizing that they cannot access an
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abortion. and they need, once implement today could be the day of the verdict for justina visitors. jessica, it's that the siding phase of the landmark case the staff members of abortion, dream team support justina the founder of the organization. the little on that the customer i've, i'm nervous like i am every time and it's very stressful. they're there today. i heard from one of the female politicians here that it will be more like a marathon than a sprint. unfortunately, putting adams to michigan, i get a thought, i hope my strength will last a little longer. you stick with the trial and the related protests are being followed from far beyond poland, borders. with what that is,
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as a political trial against an activist who sent an abortion pell to a woman who needed help with me. just then a vigorous and sca has been helping women to obtain abortions for 17 years. so far she is avoided trouble with a legal system, as she simply gave pregnant women advice on ordering abortion pills abroad. but during the pandemic, she shipped the medication herself. legally, a crucial difference. she was reported by the partner of the pregnant woman who used the abortion pill. justina visions got sent. he will be heard as a witness to day i just went on the pregnant woman contacted houston a vision sca because she was in an abusive relationship. and the abortion pill from abroad did not arrive during the pandemic. for you then a visited jessica. this was an emergency. did she know what she was risking when she sent the pill? which our lamb,
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i knew photoshop. i've been working in the field for years. i know abortion law. i would be lying if i said i didn't know the risk i was taking. well, i mean, i knew it very well. not the math, but in that situation, i just had to send her the abortion pills to watch if there was no way to ship it out. mm hm. oh, since the abortion law was further strengthened in 2020, there have been mass protests in poland. a legal termination is only possible if the pregnant woman has been rate or her life is in danger. according to polls, 70 per cent of polish people are against the stricter law. but there is also approval for the strict law. we visit the large pull we do family near woods ana pulido has 7 children
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with an 8th on the way. she is very religious and says she would never have an abortion even if her life or endanger. yet, we're still talking with the gazette. she loves, as selfishness shouldn't stuff that's from having children to daniel, should talk each new life costs us some about an entity hog at the good. you need to have those heritage to lose a part of your life and gain new life. and what's your business guess ah, ana povey do takes care of her children full time and also home schools. them together with her husband. the couple have set up a catholic foundation to promote homeschooling, ana advises other families. man gives workshops. oh mother, along with the child benefit they receive around $110.00 euros per child per month
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. the family has enough to live on once a year, the children are tested by a state school ana and her husband can not imagine a better life for their large family. ah, oh hey little and nothing was ever that was for us. it's very important that the family is always together. you know, like in the holy family where mary was the teacher of jesus and he grew up in his father's chem fagel, osa, his parents who went to educate their children. well, zoom noticed that public schools take something away from them. for instance, the influence they want to have only children my own legit she ana probably do is currently preparing one of her workshops for pregnant women, which she holds in catholic communities around wounds. they are steeped in the strict catholic values by which she and her family live.
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this is those that it's a funny and glum shine. we women have to take a backseat. that is our destiny. as mother his mother. nature has created us to give and protect life latisha, brazil had anya at the moment a woman decides to have an abortion. they must be a huge drama in her haunt jay said phone she that one of us that i'm on, that evil will always be punished on that false. the evil here is the killing of another human being would be to prove a tow vehicle. i for on a potent do, having an abortion is like running a child over in the street. back to the trial of activist houston ever did a jessica in warsaw. further witnesses are being questioned. jakob swanny of ski is in the court room as an observer. he is
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a member of the ultra conservative lawyers association, or do you, reese, which aims to further restrict the abortion law. his association is well connected to the polish government the hearing ends with no verdict for euston of a division. sca and a new appointment is fixed yang. is it fun you being so you haven't, i mean no more exhausted than before. in fact, i'd say that i've regained a little energy. i'm glad things are moving forward. i'm sure the club ah, with 222922597, call us there are still abortion pills and terminations available abroad. the
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activists shout into the crowd. 0 7 ah, the anti abortion protesters are also demonstrating in front of the court house by playing the sound of a baby crying over the loudspeakers. oh . 7 i have existing with ya. keeps wanting on sky of ordo juris leaves the courtroom without giving an interview. but he later invites us into his law firm as a representative of the public interest. or do you, reese is allowed to participate in the trial. the christian fundamentalists have few supporters and society, but are well connected to the ministry of justice. order you, reese, is fighting to assign the legal status of a patient to a fetus. it's not on the front of me. go to the
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presumption. wonderful sir. you know, review when it comes to abortion access, the legalization is much better in poland than in many other countries, especially european ones. mama's, however, we still have some objections. and we are trying to extend the protection of unborn life in different ways. good uncle ross was ang, elephant. elijah, wasn't the order you rece has prepared a report for the court pointing out that e u law does not actually accept abortion. friendship promoted. when the term facilitating an abortion can mean many things as it was in the form, it could be assistance with a surgical termination of liquid or it could mean handing over an abortion pill on the one issue, whether the pill is delivered by mail or handed over personally on either way enables the termination of a pregnancy with lucas them with blue back to you. st. inevitably shantika the 49 year old lives in
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a small town near warsaw and has 3 children divorce next year. i'm not sure if i'm on the subway in warsaw and a young woman suddenly approaches me and asks justina like the hard copies. sienna, being recognized on the street, is new for me. it's not us to use then a video regions can never wanted to become famous. busy the fact that she is a full time activist today has to do with her own story. natasha wagner. my a lot. see it all started. when i had an abortion in 2000 and sex and the condition . com less you be at that time i was completely on my own as about 2 hours of pockets. it's new thing financing is, was hard to get any information. and then that the, for example, how to take the abortion housing of ya young. that's cool. that's like there were many different sellers rather than to 100, and every one recommended a different dosage. it's all, it's all your dental england of california. she terminated her pregnancy at the time because her husband was abusive. she has no regrets,
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won't have one on the bottom of she, abortion was a turning point in my life. the script understood as it was an experienced that allowed me to regain my self determination and my body is at 2 am. i started to see myself completely differently as a woman. shortly afterwards justina visions, god gave up her job as a chemist and founded the abortion dream team. back at the hospital and push jenna bought about us global is suing the doctors who were treating her sister in law isa. when she died in the hospital, he's got an infection and had a fever of 40 degrees. oh mama. oh goodness, i let go. very angry at the doctors as we see and they didn't help, isa rushed to me, they'd have nothing at all. which cost either her like those which you dallas
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facility and they are still working here in this hospital, a full seal. they were briefly suspended, but now they are back and working. hes not done. it's like a mockery for us for you. it makes a mockery of our tragedy. payneham, the snow shaped the good, but about us global is still waiting for an answer as to why the doctors behaved the way they did. the prosecutor's office is only just filing the indictment at this point, the trial has not yet begun. mm. the hospital refuses to comment on the case in front of our camera. they release a written statement. due to the political context of this case, we do not give interviews at a public hearing on abortion in poland at the european parliament in brussels. but about us global reported on her sister in law's death,
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we handle the excel ease of it and then to brussels, to tell them about the situation. my family is in ought to me to tell them what influence the legislation has undocked his decisions and patience lives. with us on shelter she, i believe this is something that should be openly talked about about how much suffering the tightened bullshit lewis inflicting on women of the ship. jacoby it lawyer yolanda buds up sca writes a blog, giving information about medical errors during childbirth. motion through she is representing ease of family and another family with a similar case sister in law, families lawyer shed, she too, was present at the public hearing in the european parliament in brussels. she doctors weights off the scope, treating her some kenya obama. the reactions of the m e p. 's were very moving. who also you could see that isa story, as well as the situation of polish women in general, touched the parliamentarians very much out of the portal. sheila urged of every
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school or else we reported how easy was treated in the hospital, you know, and how she died there go. yeah, it made it very clear what damage laws can do to people. so by the yuk, a daughter very, she had a she as a lawyer, yolanda knows what a predicament the strict or abortion law puts doctors in. more and more women have been denied an abortion even if there were grounds for it. they are increasingly contacting yolanda over this one. i swap some must. the female patient saw the weakest link in this situation. usually near my years of labs, it stopped as always designed what is legally the safest option for themselves. so they can avoid prosecution it without them some federal demo till now. i don't know, but even with all the emotional blackmail just, i can kind of understand the doctors and stuff though i represent the victims family, but i think i'm putting it on the bus. he had the attend or about to the need to make a quick decision on the spot damage weather and when to perform an abortion from
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toys that us, that's a dog such ah, and the nipple calona of convent on a povey do is preparing a workshop for pregnant women with her oldest daughter and in co operation with the nuns, her courses are offered for pregnancies with complications. ah, was a chavez, i always look forward to these workshops there attended by wonderful women from all the poland and even from abroad. who come here to celebrate life cheerfully to that happy that they can be mothers smuggled, but they also come to cry over their wounds and they pain all that has been difficult for them. the choice in you voice mishma, but it's, you know, walnut covey at the window. rome is carrying
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a life inside it. it is full of light tongue. upon us, it is glowing because god is united with the little soul yakima. is there anything more beautiful than being pregnant? and i encourage is the women to trust in god and pray if they are facing problems and fears you move it in today, i can proudly say that i'm like an empress, isn't the good? not because i had this is arion, but because god has given me a new value, and you dignity level got most. ah ah, yeah. some amount because of the kids didn't i had to diagnoses of
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difficult ectopic pregnancies myself emotional skull. still in my heart, i felt that my life is not worth more than the life of the unborn child trustful that i trusted in god, and i am a life you will dispatcher, a child should never be killed out of fear. for the mother's life, i can victory cuz we are mothers, we bear life. we must not forget that her. of it's a fondness is that only little schmilo on applebee day was 8 child is due in 4 months. and she can imagine having even more children with march 2023 in warsaw euston ivy that a jessica has more trial days coming up. whatever
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the less i work in the warsaw office of abortion dream t must go on euston of editions. car is in high demand, these days were ukrainian women are coming forward who were raped during the war. and want to have an abortion o tac ah throw sab. yes. please go to the website, women health dot org dot org. in this there you can order the abortion pel blend. oh wow. the dot org roman had to cut up got oregon bizarre shuttle, which i've heard of it. it's the women who call me always want to tell me why they want the abortion this need to justify their wish comes from the stigma. see miss that. i mean, we want to ease things a bit for the women a 5th period. and we say that even if it sounds harsh us, that we are not interested in the reason for the abortion me, i knew that a swell of all the electrical egyptian violence failed was that georgia normally,
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abortion dream team also offer seminars for women. but there is no time for that at the moment. oh, it's march 14th, 2023 and the verdict is expected to day. you are not alone the crowd chance? yes, i any simply not guilty. if any state is to blame, the prosecutor presents new evidence against houston avidity shantika her appearance and the polish parliament when she appealed for more liberal access to abortion. in addition to the prosecutor, there was another observer from the ultraconservative lawyers association. or do you, reese? she requests of fine for use than if that is jenica, as well as a restriction on her movements you sent over that agenda, cuz defense attorney protest the order you
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would use representative has severely overstepped the mark. she is not a plaintiff in the law suitable. therefore, she is in no way authorized to propose any penalties whether she may give her opinion on the case in general. but she is not allowed to propose any sentencing. with you stand a visit to jessica herself pleads not guilty. look after the break, the verdict is announced. justina visions, guy and her companions, have dressed up to celebrate the landmark case. it is after all, a historic judgment for polish women of the century, the defendant justina vision. scott is found guilty of assisting a pregnant woman in the termination of her pregnancy by sending her the abortion pel. use than a visit agenda is sentenced to 8 months of community service and of rated by the
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activists like a hero. oh lamb, you the dogs up my dog, m b. who would i go? and poured us before me. the real verdict came much earlier after the court hearing in february, we received a letter from another, a, the woman i sent the pill to accident. she thanked me for helping her. the 2 in the front, the red. yeah, but thing that tanya, yes, no hand, these are a bullshit pails is going to be. what you stint i did is not a crime you. most of it's just them some thought, what are the methods he percent of people in poland want me cannot be a crime at that point for yes, the wow. you stand a vision, sca says ironically that she already completed her 8 months of social work long ago, emphasizing that she will continue to help women in need of an abortion in the future. the day after the trial, the judge who passed the sentence was promoted with
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nothing was thought this way. we're all like ah, just then of iterations. guy is happy that the trial is finally over the cache. them as i am, get them of yes. furnished with my own experiences, with an abusive partner, kept coming up there, they were hard moments for me. the memories kept re emerging. now that it's hard even years later to think about what i experienced with him, give me a thrill. know i'll and yet that the my biggest is that of the most are stressful. was the 1st day of the trial that us, we're now i'm exhausted. everything is boiling up in his, i mean yeah. is shadows. i don't with fear anymore. the me, i'm not nervous any more. his thoughts there are, i'm tired all. it was in the difficult time on your daughter. i know what, what else 3 is to throw in a tough itala. m. you stand
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a vision's cause. i'll but also ease of death have moved the country very much. is us still young? yes. question. the he's a from persona, lost her life in a polish hospital because the doctors did nothing for 10 years with chips picked up for ski. they did not act to save her life for you and you look on the volley needs, needs o, are you calling in for the dot as it is more important to cover their box legally, venetia, lunch, walterboro, instead of say in the womans i had unusual, a google glass door. oh, usually chicken age. mm. eas, as family is left with only grief and anger and a message inscribed on ease as gravestone, there will be no more nauseous. and even if we will never come to terms with us and for which mature her life was taken
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away, go to a woman who had a whole life ahead of her all her plans, all her dreams ritual or gospel plan of emotion. ah, ah ah, sleep time once again for a brain update because this orchestra called the brain continuously adopts itself and so we ask a few astute questions. we smarter warms, are you
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