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the country like to keep taking on the powers that be they risk everything gender, dar, meets activists, journalists, and politicians, living in exile. they live to which they live for their mission. what drives them to put in is to know what is happening. there are series guardians of truth watch now on youtube, d. w documentary ah, a woman is buried here in the cemetery of the southern polish community of pish, jenna. she only lived to the age of 30. am isabella's law of swindle, not over isabella died because the doctors didn't help us cookies at one again
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because of our emotional and poland was stopped there. ah . but about us global is the deceased woman's sister in law. she rarely comes to ease as grave, as the anger and grief overwhelmed her. she little guts. oh, we have to carry this heavy burden and learn to live without isa is la maya. what's your school's spool? and we have to support her daughter, my ancestors. i found it hard to talk about my feelings because i know what little my as going through it isa to raise or she says as the mice, because she lost her mother. my are or to valet, but we started he's
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a died much like 6 other women in a similar situation who were also in danger of losing their lives. sir garcia called my brother gregory, and the whole family blame not only the doctors but politicians to pull to prison and that they are the ones he tightened. the abortion little tilted his we're still waiting for justice revenue bush today is the domain that's ease us house out there. she lived here on the corner to talk to spin room tonight. oh, how could a healthy young, pregnant woman like isa die? so suddenly ah,
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isabella sideboard was a hair dresser. she was always changing her hair color and hair styles for fun. mm. due to complications and the 22nd week of her pregnancy isa was admitted to this hospital and pushed jenna is as what she what should i do is i went to the hospital on september 20th 2021 or showed me to she died the next morning at 7 o'clock, the simple nickel via but i know after either was admitted to the hospital, doctors found the fetus was severely deformed and there was no amniotic fluid. either already had an infection caused by the fetus. yet the doctors did nothing. bowlens strict law prohibits terminations even on fetuses which are non viable. these are sent messages to her husband from her hospital bed. it does it,
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does these other messages which i have to wait until the features, his heart stops beating thanks to the peace government. there is no other way why, maybe they will do something if they have to save my life. it's terrible that they have such regulations. so my ease as infection led to sepsis, which caused her deaf warsaw mid january 2023, a crowd outside. the court house is waiting for a woman who has been on trial for months for assisting and abortion. if you choose to doctor once keys authority, 3 years in the socialist, poland, we could decide on our own fatality. ideally we had a bullshit, but we also gave birth to children. i'm not sensitive and how pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. it's not just a step backwards. now, everything is getting downhill here now by william houston,
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a vision sca has become a symbolic figure in poland and activists to fight for the unrestricted right to abortion, and helps pregnant women in need. she could be imprisoned for up to 3 years for sending a woman an abortion pill. there is solidarity both in poland and abroad. i'm here is appointments on a day to with justina because and it has been hearing from people from the drain, refugees living info and, and who are basically coming here and then realizing that they cannot access an abortion if they need one influence today could be the day of the verdict for your stint of it. that is jessica. it's the deciding phase of the landmark case. ah, the staff members of abortion, dream team support justina the founder of the organization. the little on that the customer as i'm nervous, like i am,
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every time it's very stressful. they're there today. i heard from one of the female politicians here that it will be more like a marathon than a sprint. unfortunately, proteins, alums, you, michigan. i might have thought, i hope my strength will last a little longer. you started off with the trial and the related protests are being followed from far beyond poland. borders. with 40 that isn't as a political trial against an activist who sends an abortion pill to a woman who needed help with justina vigorous and sca has been helping women to obtain abortions for 17 years. so far she is avoided trouble with a legal system, as she simply gave pregnant women advice on ordering abortion pills abroad. but during the pandemic, she shipped the medication herself. legally, a crucial difference. she was reported by the partner of the pregnant woman who
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used the abortion pill. justina visions got sent. he will be heard as a witness to day i don't. the pregnant woman contacted justina visions, guy because she was in an abusive relationship, and the abortion pill from abroad did not arrive during the pandemic. for you then a visited jessica. this was an emergency. did she know what she was risking when she sent the pill? it's our law. i knew photoshop. i've been working in the field for years. i know abortion law. i would be lying if i said i didn't know the risk i was taking. well, i mean, i knew it very well, not the math, but in that situation i just had to send her the abortion pills to wasn't, there was no way and this was to ship it out. mm hm. oh, since the abortion law was further strengthened in 2020,
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there have been mass protests in poland. a legal termination is only possible if the pregnant woman has been rate or her life is in danger. according to polls, 70 per cent of polish people are against the strict are law. but there is also approval for the strict law. we visit the large pool we do family near woods ana pulido has 7 children with an 8th on the way. she is very religious and says she would never have an abortion even if her life or endanger it was there for talking with the gazette so much as selfishness shouldn't stuff that's from having children to manually chalk each new life costs are some about an energy hog at the good, you need to have those heritage to lose a part of your life and gain new life and the delivery of this case
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ah ana po, v do takes care of her children full time and also home schools. them together with her husband. the couple have set up a catholic foundation to promote homeschooling, ana advises other families and gives workshops. oh mother, along with the child benefit they receive around $110.00 euros per child per month . the family has enough to live on. once a year, the children are tested by a state school ana and her husband can not imagine a better life for their large family. ah, oh oh hey, the little and let them over. it was for us, it's very important that the family is always together later in like in the holy family where mary was the teacher of jesus and he grew up in his father's cam.
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fagel, osa, his parents who went to educate their children. well zoom noticed that public schools take something away from them. for instance, the influence they want to have only children, my own legit you on a probably do is currently preparing one of her workshops for pregnant women, which she holds in catholic communities around wounds. they are steeped and the strict catholic values by which she and her family live. this is those of it's a funny and glum shine. we women have to take a back seat and well that is our destiny. as mother his mother nature has created as to games and protect ly hibachi from brazil had anya, at the moment of woman decides to have an abortion. they must be a huge drama in her haunt. jay said phone she the color was hipaa, rama. but evil will always be punished on that false. the evil here is the killing of another human being
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a tow vehicle i, for on a potent do having an abortion is like running a child over in the street to help them back to the trial of activist houston ever did a jessica in warsaw. further witnesses are being questioned. jakob swanny of ski is in the court room as an observer. he is a member of the ultra conservative lawyers association, or do you, reese, which aims to further restrict the abortion law. his association is well connected to the polish government the hearing ends with no verdict for use than of a division sca and a new appointment is fixed. yang is it when you being so you haven't, i mean no more exhausted than before. in fact, i'd say that i've regained
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a little energy. i'm glad things are moving forward. i'm sure the club ah, with 222922597, call us. there are still abortion pills and terminations available abroad. the activists shout into the crowd. 7 7 ah, the anti abortion protesters are also demonstrating in front of the court house by playing the sound of a baby crying over the loudspeakers. her. 7 0, good people, jak hoops one yup. sky of ordo juris leaves the courtroom without giving an
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interview. he later invites us into his law firm as a representative of the public interest or do you rece is allowed to participate in the trial. the christian fundamentalists have few supporters and society, but are well connected to the ministry of justice. order you, reese, is fighting to assign the legal status of a patient to a fetus. obama pumped on for you to put so much have wonderful. so, you know, review when it comes to abortion access, the legalization is much better in poland than in many other countries, especially european ones. moment of however, we still have some objections. and we are trying to extend the protection of unborn life in different ways. good, uncle ross was an elephant elijah, was hunting or do you read has prepared a report for the court pointing out that e u law does not actually accept abortion. friendship
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promoted when the term facilitating an abortion can mean many things. so it wasn't a photo. it could be assistance with a surgical termination like or it could mean handing over an emotional hill on the one issue, whether the pill is delivered by mail or handed over personally on either way, enables the termination of a pregnancy with lucas them with blue back to you st inevitably shantika the 49 year old lives in a small town near warsaw and has 3 children divorce next year. i'm not sure if i'm on the subway in warsaw and a young woman suddenly approaches me and asks justina, let me hug miss jana. being recognized on the street is new for me. it's not us to use then a video regions can never wanted to become famous. busy the fact that she is a full time activist today has to do with her own story, the torsion program. my about see it all started when i had an abortion in 2000 and
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sex and that kinda shall come less. you be at that time i was completely on my own as about 2 hours of pockets. it's new thing financing is, was hard to get any information. i'm not the, for example, how to take the abortion housing of ya young. that's cool. that's like there were many different sellers rather than just a 100 and everyone recommended a different dosage. it's all and so he hadn't the england of california. she terminated her pregnancy at the time because her husband was abusive. she has no regrets. wyatt ross have one on the bottom of she. abortion was a turning point in my life. the script understood as it was an experienced that allowed me to regain my self determination. and my body is at 2 am. i started to see myself completely differently as a woman. shortly afterwards, euston a visions, god gave up her job as a chemist and founded the abortion dream team. back at the hospital and push jenna. but i screwball is suing the doctors who were
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treating her sister in law isa. when she died in the hospital, he's got an infection and had a fever of 40 degrees. oh mama. oh, good alyssa, let go very angry at the doctors as we see and they didn't help. isa rushed to me. they'd have nothing at all which cost either her life to reach you in dallas facility and they are still working here in this house facility is long ceiling, they were brief, he suspended, but now they are back and working. he has not done. it's like a mockery for us. it makes a mockery of our tragedy penal. there's nothing there good. but about us global is still waiting for an answer as to why the doctors behaved the way they did. the prosecutor's office is only just filing the indictment.
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at this point, the trial has not yet begun. the hospital refuses to comment on the case in front of our camera. they release a written statement. due to the political context of this case, we do not give interviews at a public hearing on abortion in poland at the european parliament in brussels. but about us global reported on her sister in law's death. we handle the extent of it and then to brussels, to tell them about the situation. my family is an alternate to tell them what influence the legislation has undocked his decisions and patience lives with us on shelter. i believe this is something that should be openly talked about, but you about how much suffering the tightened bullshit, louis inflicting on women and public surgical gifted lawyer, yolanda woods. up sca writes a blog giving information about medical errors during childbirth. wilson through
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she is representing ease as family and another family, with a similar case, a sister in law, families lawyer shed. she too, was present at the public hearing in the european parliament in brussels. she said, for doctors weights off the scope, treating her some kenya, obama reactions of the m e p. 's were very moving. who also you could see that isa story, as well as the situation of polish women in general, touched the parliamentarians very much out of the portal. sheila urged of every school, or else we reported how easy was treated in the hospital, you know, and how she died there go, yeah, it made it very clear what damage laws can do to people. so, but eoc a daughter very, she had a she as a lawyer, yolanda knows what a predicament the strict or abortion law puts doctors in. more and more women have been denied an abortion even if there were grounds for it. they are increasingly contacting yolanda over this one. i swap some must. the female patient saw the
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weakest link in this situation. usually near my years of that, it stopped as always designed what is legally the safest option for themselves. so they can avoid prosecution it without them some federal demo till now. i don't know, but even with all the emotional blackmail just and i can kind of understand the doctors and stuff though i represent the victims family, but i think i'm putting it on the bus. he had that attend off the thought to the need to make a quick decision on the spot damage whether and when to perform an abortion from toys that us that saddam such, ah, and the nipple calona of convent on a povey do is preparing a workshop for pregnant women with her oldest daughter and in co operation with the nuns, her courses are offered for pregnancies with complications. ah,
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was a chavez? i always look forward to these workshops. they're attended by wonderful women from all over poland and even from abroad. who come here to celebrate life, so potentially to them. so they are happy that they can be mothers smuggle but, but they also come to cry over their wounds and they a pain. all that has been difficult for them with the choice in you voice mishma. but it's, you know, walnut covey ethics, when rome is carrying a life inside it, it is full of light shining upon us. it is glowing because god is united with the little soul yakima. is there anything more beautiful than being pregnant? and i encourage is the women to trust in god and pray if they are facing problems and fears
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you move in to day. i can proudly say that i am like an empress. isn't the good or not? because i had this is erin, but because god has given me a new value, and you dignity level goes, ah ah, some amount you thought also the kid dick and i had to diagnoses of difficult ectopic pregnancies myself emotional goal. still in my heart, i felt that my life is not worth more than the life of the unborn child trustful that i trusted in god, and i am a life and he was such. a child should never be killed out of fear for the mother's life. because we are mothers, we bear life, we must not forget the hurt of it's a fantasy that only little schmilo on applebee day was 8 child is due in 4 months.
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and she can imagine having even more children with march 2023 in warsaw euston. ivy that a jessica has more trial days coming up. whatever the less i work in the warsaw office of abortion dream team must go on. ustinov editions. guy is in high demand. these days were ukrainian women are coming forward who were raped during the war and want to have an abortion. ready ready oh fact i throw sat yes. please go to the website. women health dot org dot org in not this there. you can order the abortion. hell, a black oh,
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well i had the dot org roman had to cut up got auto good. bizarre shots of a bunch of hope of it. the women who call me always want to tell me why they want the abortion this need to justify their wish comes from the stigma. see miss that. i mean, we want to ease things a bit for the women a 5th period, and we say that even if it sounds harsh us, that we are not interested in the reason for the abortion me on a wound that a swamp of all the electrical egyptian violence fail wasp, chandra. normally, abortion dream team also offer seminars for women. but there is no time for that at the moment. oh, it's march 14th. 2023 and the verdict is expected to day. you are not alone the crowd chance yet i any simply not guilty. if any state is to blame,
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the prosecutor presents new evidence against houston. a visit is jenika, her appearance and the polish parliament when she appealed for more liberal access to abortion. in addition to the prosecutor, there was another observer from the ultraconservative lawyers association order you rece, she requests of fine for use than ebay. that is jenica, as well as a restriction on her movements. you still have that agenda as defense attorney protests with the order you least representative, has severely overstep the mark. she is not a plaintiff in the law suitable, therefore, she is in no way authorized to propose any penalties whether she may give her opinion on the case in general. but she is not allowed to propose any sentencing houston avidity. jessica, herself pleads not guilty. look after the break,
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the verdict is announced. justina visions go and her companions have dressed up to celebrate the landmark case. it is after all, a historic judgement for polish women i. the defendant justina between scott is found guilty of assisting a pregnant woman in the termination of her pregnancy by sending her the abortion pel. euston a visitor jessica is sentenced to 8 months of community service and rated by the activists like a hero. oh, i love you, the dogs up my dog, m b. whoo, would i go and put us before me. the real verdict came much earlier after the court hearing in february, we received a letter from another day, the woman i sent the pill to exit. she thanked me for helping her. the twin doesn't
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the left. yeah, but thing a tanya? yes, no hand these are abortion palaces. what have you, what you still did is not a crime you. most of it's just them, some thought what the 70 percent of people in poland want me, cannot be a crime. has it that was for by yes, wow, you stand a vision. sca says ironically that she already completed her 8 months of social work long ago, emphasizing that she will continue to help women in need of an abortion in the future. the day after the trial, the judge who passed the sentence was promoted. a nothing was thought this way, we're all like ah yes. then every 3 chance guy is happy that the trial is finally over the cache. them as him get them movie us, find the show. my own experiences with an abusive partner kept coming up there. they were hard moments for me. it's the memories kept re emerging now,
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but it's hard even years later to think about what i experienced with him get be a lot i'll and yet that the living sister of the most are stressful, was the 1st day of the trial that us will. now i'm exhausted. everything is boiling up in his, i mean yeah. if shadows, i don't work here anymore at the me, i'm not nervous anymore. his thoughts that i am tired all. it was in the difficult time on your daughter. i know what, what else 3 is the total natasha. it tele bmw. you stand a visions cuz i'll but also ease as dads have moved the country very much. is us still young? yes. gosh, just the, he's from persona lost her life in a polish hospital because the doctors did nothing good. can you just pick that up for sky? they did not act to save her life for you and you look on the volley needs, needs o, are you calling in for the doctors? it is more important to cover their box legally at venetia lunch, walterboro instead of a say in the woman's like that unusual,
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a book glass door. oh, usually chicken age. mm. ease as family is left with only grief and anger, and a message and scribed on ease as gravestone. there will be no more nauseous, new vehicle, we will never come to terms with us. unfortunately, her life was taken away. go to a woman who had a whole life ahead of her all her plans, all her dreams, which triplets all gospel plan of emotion. ah ah
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