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affinity when it comes to trafficking nigerian women for sex. so they're always saying the same thing about you get to go without having to painting it. obviously that's all and i m n a forms. yes. and then he succeed in restoring this young girls ability to treat it. it's something that really is price meant that gives me known to what i do. the trio combating, shooting dealings starts april 29th on d, w. ah ah, a woman is buried here in the cemetery of the southern polish community of pish, jenna. she only lived to the age of 30 am isabella's law of swindle. natasha isabella died because the doctors didn't help us cookies up
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to along. and because of our emotional in poland was stopped. ah, but about us global is the deceased woman's sister in law. she rarely comes to ease as grave, as the anger and grief overwhelmed her. she little did guts e. we have to carry this heavy burden and learn to live without isa is la maya, what's your school spool? and we have to support her daughter maya. just after. i found it hard to talk about my feelings, because i know what little my as going through. it is so to raise or she suffers the mice because she lost her mother. my are or 20,
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but we started he's a died much like 6 other women in a similar situation who were also in danger of losing their lives. is their goal for you could my brother, gregory and the whole family blame not only the doctors but politicians to a point to prison and that they are the ones who tighten the abortion. lol to function is we're still waiting for just tell us. but when you pushed the yes dormer that's ease as house out there. she lived here on the corner to talk to them tonight. oh boy. how good a healthy young pregnant woman like isa die so suddenly aah!
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isabella sideboard was a hair dresser. she was always changing her hair color and hair styles for fun. mm. due to complications and the 22nd week of her pregnancy isa was admitted to this hospital and pushed jenna is as good sure she had allergies. i went to the hospital on september 20th 2021 or showed me to she died the next morning at 7 o'clock. let them go via, but alo, after either was admitted to the hospital, doctors found the fetus was severely deformed and there was no amniotic fluid. isa already had an infection caused by the fetus. yet the doctors did nothing. poland strict law prohibits terminations even on fetuses which are non viable. these are sent messages to her husband from her hospital bed. those he does these other
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messages which i have to wait until the features, his heart stops beating thanks to the peace government. there is no other way why, maybe they will do something if they have to save my life. it's terrible that they have such regulations. so my ease as infection led to sepsis, which caused her deaf warsaw mid january 2023, a crowd outside. the court house is waiting for a woman who has been on trial for months for assisting and abortion. if you choose to opt out, once he's at the facility 3 years in the socialist, poland, we could decide on our own fatina, teen q. ideally we had to portion of it, but we also gave birth to children. i'm not concentrating how pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. it's not just a step backwards. now. everything is going downhill here. now. william houston,
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a vision sca has become a symbolic figure in poland and activists to fight for the unrestricted right to abortion and helps pregnant women in need. she could be imprisoned for up to 3 years for sending a woman an abortion pill. there is solidarity both in poland and abroad. i'm here to support us on a day or 2 with justina because them has been hearing from people from the drain, refugees living in poland and who are basically coming here. and then realizing that they cannot access an abortion, and they need one in poems today could be the day of the verdict for your stint of that is jenica. it's that the siding phase of the landmark case. ah, the staff members of abortion dream team support justina the founder of the organization. the live on a, the customer, i'm nervous like i am,
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every time it's very stressful. they're in today. i heard from one of the female politicians here that it will be more like a marathon than a sprint, unfortunately. pretty adams, you much doesn't like it. like i thought, i hope my strength will last a little longer. you started off with the trial and the related protests are being followed from far beyond poland borders with the sporting. that is a political trial against an activist who sent an abortion pill to a woman who needed help. uh huh. yes. then a vision sca has been helping women to obtain abortions for 17 years. so far she is avoided trouble with a legal system as she simply gave pregnant women advice on ordering abortion pills abroad. but during the pandemic, she shipped the medication herself. legally, a crucial difference. she was reported by the partner of the pregnant woman who
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used the abortion pill. ustinov at the regents got sent, he will be heard as a witness to day i just, we don't. the pregnant woman contacted justina vision sca because she was in an abusive relationship, and the abortion pill from abroad did not arrive during the pandemic for use than a vision sca. this was an emergency. did she know what she was risking when she sent the pill? with yeah, wow, um, i knew photoshop. i've been working in the field for years. i know abortion law. i would be lying if i said i didn't know the risk i was taking. well, i mean, i knew it very well. not them as, but in that situation, i just had to send her the abortion palace. it wasn't, there was no, there. hey, is this west virginia dawn? oh, since the abortion law was further strengthened in 2020,
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there have been mass protests in poland. a legal termination is only possible if the pregnant woman has been rate or her life is in danger. according to polls, 70 per cent of polish people are against the stricter law. but there is also approval for the strict law. we visit the large pool we do family near woods ana pulido has 7 children with an 8th on the way. she is very religious and says she would never have an abortion even if her life were in danger. oh, it was there for talking with her that she loves, and selfishness shouldn't stuff that's from having children to manually chalk each new life costs us some about an entity hog at the good. you need to have those heritage to lose a part of your life and gain new life and the delivery of this case ah,
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anna povey, do takes care of her children full time and also home schools. them together with her husband. the couple have set up a catholic foundation to promote home schooling, ana advises other families and gives workshops. wow, mother, along with the child benefit they receive around $110.00 euros per child per month . the family has enough to live on. once a year, the children are tested by a state school ana and her husband can not imagine a better life for their large family. ah, oh oh hey, to little and let them give her a dress. it's very important that the family is always together to join the like in the holy family where mary was the teacher of jesus and he grew up in his father's
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can. like always had his parents who went to educate their children. well zoom noticed that public schools take something away from them and buffy for instance, the influence they want to have only children. my own legit. she on a pretty do is currently preparing one of her workshops for pregnant women, which she holds in catholic communities around which they are steeped in the strict catholic values by which she and her family live. this is those of it's a funny and glum shine. we women have to take a back seat and well that is our destiny as mother his mother. nature has created us to give and protect life latisha, brazil had anya at the moment a woman decides to have an abortion. they must be a huge drama in her haunt jay said phone to the conservative with that i'mma that evil will always be punished on that false. the evil here is the killing of another
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human being would be to believe a tor vehicle i for on a potent do having an abortion is like running a child over in the street. ah, back to the trial of activist houston ever did a jessica in warsaw. further witnesses are being questioned. jakob swanny of ski is in the court room as an observer. he is a member of the ultra conservative lawyers association, or do you, reese, which aims to further restrict the abortion law. his association is well connected to the polish government the hearing ends with no verdict for euston of a division. sca and a new appointment is fixed yang. it had fun. you being so you haven't,
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i mean no more exhausted than before. in fact, i'd say that i've regained to little energy. i'm glad things are moving forward. i'm sure the club ah, with 222922597, call us there are still abortion pills and terminations available abroad. the activists shout into the crowd. ah. 7 the anti abortion protesters are also demonstrating in front of the court house by playing the sound of a baby crying over the loudspeakers. her, oh, good people, yakima,
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swanny. i'm ski of ordo juris leaves the courtroom without giving an interview. he later invites us into his law firm as a representative of the public interest, or do you, reese is allowed to participate in the trial. the christian fundamentalists have few supporters and society, but are well connected to the ministry of justice. order you reese is fighting to assign the legal status of a patient to a fetus. it's not on the front of me cause you to put so much have wonderful. so, you know, review when it comes to abortion access, the legalization is much better in poland than in many other countries, especially european once a month. however, we still have some objections and we are trying to extend the protection of unborn life in different ways. good uncle was closing elephant elijah or something or do you read has prepared a report for the court pointing out that e u law does not actually accept abortion. friendship
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promoted, i'll be more. the term facilitating an abortion can mean many things. so it wasn't a photo, it could be assistance with a surgical termination or liquid or it could mean handing over an abortion pill on the one issue. whether the pill is delivered by mail or handed over personally on either way enables the termination of a pregnancy with lucas of the flu. back to you in a video to shantika. the 49 year old lives in a small town near warsaw and has 3 children divorce next year. i'm not sure if i'm on the subway in warsaw and a young woman suddenly approaches me and asks justina, let me hard copy. not being recognized on the street is new for me, it's not is to use then a video resent can never wanted to become famous. the fact that she is a full time activist today has to do with her own story. natasha wagner. my
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a lot. see, it all started when i had an abortion in 2000 and sex, said the kid, the show. com less you be at that time i was completely on my own as about 2 hours of pockets. it's new thing financing is, was hard to get any information and not the, for example, how to take the abortion housing of ya young. that's cool. that's like there were many different sellers rather than little 100, and every one recommended a different dosage. it saw it. so he hadn't the england of california, she terminated her pregnancy at the time because her husband was abusive. she has no regrets. wyatt ross have one on the bottom of she. abortion was a turning point in my life. the script understood as it was an experienced that allowed me to regain my self determination and my body is at 2 am. i started to see myself completely differently as a woman. shortly afterwards justina visions, god gave up her job as a chemist and founded the abortion dream team. back
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at the hospital. impish jenna, bad about us. global is suing the doctors who were treating her sister in law isa. when she died in the hospital, he's a got an infection and had a fever of 40 degrees. oh mama. oh goodness, i'll de la glare. very angry at the doctors as we see and they didn't help isa rush cheap. they'd have nothing at all. which cost either her life richer dallas facility and they are still working here in this hospital if walked zulu, they were brief, he suspended, but now they are back and working. hes not done. it's like a mockery for us. it makes a mockery of our tragedy. payneham the snow shaped the good. but about us global is still waiting for an answer as to why the doctors behaved the way they did. the prosecutor's office is only just filing the indictment.
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at this point, the trial has not yet begun. the hospital refuses to comment on the case in front of our camera. they release a written statement due to the political context of this case. we do not give interviews at a public hearing on abortion in poland at the european parliament in brussels. but about us global reported on her sister in law's death. we handle the excel use of it and then to brussels, to tell them about the situation. my family is in ought to me to tell them what influence the legislation has undocked his decisions and patience lives with us on shelter. she, i believe this is something that should be openly talked about about how much suffering the tightened to bullshit. lewis inflicting on women of diction you could give to lawyer, yolanda buds up sca writes a blog, giving information about medical errors during childbirth,
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ocean through she is representing ease of family and another family with a similar case sister in law. families lawyer shed. she too, was present at the public hearing in the european parliament and brussels. she said, for doctors wait to stop treating her some kenya, obama. the reactions of the m. e p. 's were very moving. who also you could see that isa story, as well as the situation of polish women in general, touched the parliamentarians very much out of the portal. sheila urged every school . or else we reported how easy was treated in the hospital, you know, and how she died. there got yahoo! it made it very clear what damage laws can do to people. so, but yuk a daughter very, she had a she as a lawyer, yolanda knows what a predicament the strict are. abortion law puts doctors in. more and more women have been denied an abortion even if there were grounds for it. they are
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increasingly contacting yolanda over this one. i swap some must. the female patient saw the weakest link in this situation. usually near my years of labs, it stopped as always designed what is legally the safest option for themselves. so they can avoid prosecution it without them some federal, emerald seal. not enough, but even with all the emotional blackmail just and i can kind of understand the doctors and stuff though i represent the victims family, but i think i'm putting it on the bus. he had that attended off the thought to the need to make a quick decision on the spot damage whether and when to perform an abortion from toys that us, that saddam such, ah, and the nipple calona of convent on a po. v do is preparing a workshop for pregnant women with her oldest daughter and in co operation with the nuns. her courses are offered for pregnancies with complications. ah,
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the chavez, i always look forward to these workshops there attended by wonderful women from all the poland and even from abroad, who come here to celebrate life cheerfully to them so that happy that they can be mothers smuggled. but they also come to cry over their wounds and they pain all that has been difficult for them with the choice in you voice mishma. but it's, you know, walnut cove yet. so when the loom is carrying a life inside it, it is full of light honey. upon us, it is glowing because god is united with the little soul yakima. is there anything more beautiful than being pregnant? on i encourage is the women to trust in god and pray if they are facing problems and fears.
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gym movies to day i can proudly say that i'm like an impressed at the good as not because i had this is arion, but because god has given me a new value and you dignity level go to los ah ah some amount because of the cubic and i had to diagnoses of difficult ectopic pregnancies, myself, name of cisco. still in my heart, i felt that my life is not worth more than the life of the unborn child trustful. i trusted in god and i am alive and he was such a child should never be killed out of fear for the mother's life. i think because we are mothers, we ban life. we must not forget the hurt of it's a fantasy that all you can little schmilo mon applebee day was 8 child is due in 4
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months. and she can imagine having even more children with march 2023 in warsaw euston. every that agenda has more trial days coming up. whenever the less i work in the warsaw office of abortion, dream team must go on euston a vision. scott is in high demand. these days were ukrainian women are coming forward who were raped during the war and want to have an abortion. ready o pack up russia. yes. please go to the website. women health dot org. harry dot org in not this there. you can order the abortion pal. wow.
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oh wow. the dot org roman had caught up, got auto good. was off shot of a bunch of out of it. it's the women who call me always want to tell me why they want the abortion this need to justify their wish comes from the stigma. see miss that. i mean, we want to ease things a bit for the women, and we say that even if it sounds harsh in us, that we are not interested in the reason for the abortion me, and i knew that a swamp of the electrical egyptian violence fail wasp, chandra, normally, abortion dream team also offer seminars for women, but there is no time for that at the moment. oh, it's march 14th. 2023 and the verdict is expected to day. you are not alone the crowd chance? yes, i any simply not guilty. if any state is to blame,
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the prosecutor presents new evidence against houston avidity shantika her appearance and the polish parliament when she appealed for more liberal access to abortion. in addition to the prosecutor, there was another observer from the ultraconservative lawyers association order. you rece, she requests of fine for use than if that is jenica, as well as a restriction on her movements. you sent a bid against as defense attorney protests. with the order you would use representative has severely overstepped the mark. she is not a plaintiff in the law suitable, therefore, she is in no way authorized to propose any penalties whether she may give her opinion on the case in general. but she is not allowed to propose any sentencing you stand a visit to jessica herself pleads not guilty. looked after the break.
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the verdict is announced. justina visions, guy and her companions, have dressed up to celebrate the landmark case. it is, after all, a historic judgement for polish women i the defendant, justina vision hska is found guilty of assisting a pregnant woman in the termination of her pregnancy by sending her the abortion pel. use than a visit agenda is sentenced to 8 months of community service and of rated by the activists. like a hero o lum. you the dogs up my dog, m b. who would i go? oh, i thought us before me, the real verdict came much earlier after the court hearing in february, we received a letter from another, a, the woman i sent the pill to accident. she thanked me for helping her. the 2 in the
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front, the red. yeah, but the thing that tanya, yes no hand, these are a bullshit pails is going to be what you didn't i did. it's not a crime you. most of it's just them some thought. what are the methods he percent of people in poland want me cannot be a crime. there's at that point for by yes, the wow. you stand a vision. sca says ironically that she already completed her 8 months of social work long ago, emphasizing that she will continue to help women in need of an abortion in the future. the day after the trial, the judge who passed the sentence was promoted. ah, nothing will stop this way. we are all like ah, you spend every 3 shantika is happy that the trial is finally over the cache them. it doesn't get them of us find this with my own experiences, with an abusive partner kept coming up there. they were hard moments for me. it over the memories kept re emerging. now that it's hard even years later to think
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about what i experienced with him, get back to long island yet that the my biggest is that of the most are stressful. was the 1st day of the trial that us, we're now i'm exhausted. everything is boiling up in his, i mean, yeah. as shadows, i don't wanna fear any more than me. i'm not nervous any more. his thoughts that i am tired all. it was in the difficult time on your daughter. i know what, what else 3 is to throw in a tough itala. mm mm. you still have visions cuz aisle but also ease as death. have moved the country very much. is us still young? yes. question. the whole isa from persona lost her life in a polish hospital, because the doctors did nothing for 10 years, it's, you have to pick that up for sky. they did not act to save her life for you and you look on the volley needs, needs o, are you calling in for the dot as it is more important to cover their box legally,
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venetia, lunch, walterboro. instead of to say in the woman's eyes, that unusual a google glass door. oh, usually chicken age. mm. eas, as family is left with only grief and anger and a message and scribed on ease as gravestone. there will be no more. mm hm. just an example. we will never come to terms with us in for which mature her life was taken away. go to a woman who had a whole life ahead of her all her plans, all her dreams, richards or gospel plot of emotion. ah ah
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