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ah, i'm british manager, welcome to the dublin years, asia, glad you could join us. the united nations wants to discuss granting recognition to the taliban regime in afghanistan, and it wants to discuss this with international envoys in about 2 weeks time. you and deputy circuitry general amena, mom and speaking at an event on monday set a meeting between the un secretary general and envoys on a goddess. dawn was being bland and the subject of grunting recognition to the taliban was expected to come up. we have the amazing envoys that work on afghanistan and we have afghan within 2. and what we are hoping is that we will gather them now in another 2 weeks in the region. and they will have that 1st meeting of invoice across the board, the region and internationally with the secretary. and for the 1st time,

an out of that we hope that we will find as baby steps to put us back on the pathway to recognition. it's, and apparently that meeting is set for the 1st with me in the door, her. that's asper, a tweet by former euros onward to have gone to stanza michael's up. while recognition for the taliban could be on the guards of the country, they govern, remains in the grip of a dire humanitarian crisis. despite that, the thought of bomb is dedicating the largest shirt of, of gun his son's funds to the military funds that are coming from booster tax and customs revenues. speaking to reuters news agency, chief of army staff body for see who didn't fit that spoke of how the poly bon army intends to use the money to expand and purchase high tech weapons. but the men that counted as diesel mission of telecom bush, we made good progress in less than 2 years. and currently we have 150000 jenkins force personnel. but this is not our final goal. the cho clotty will do you me

least, the army said caddy, moore. we are progressing. step by step, i'm sure, ensure that all our needs in term of defense course personnel, we have been fulfilled. law. it mean unpaid over. can him get hold of communism manually? casually mom that are rosley dish, any equitably man assembled the rest. but otherwise yuki new here in addition to the people who weren't both and g hardtop for taliban members, we have a large number of former defense force in our organization. we're the ciocca t lee and we have new registered forces as well. we're more tailored or, or more here, and all of them are serving our country under one law and principal from all ham doreen kiana as all that the actual co bernezi near fact play the bush we do not distinguish between them are full on us your e get scheduled recovery st. louis here. as jim lambert, he told us bethany,

as he can lazy that michel caught him or at this number here. let me can any, he has around toys, an anti aircraft. those are needed by countries. all countries are trying to have developed weapons to have both the as base they and territorial integrity under their control. mm hm. having these are menu on how may i help you with a control. there's troubleshooting for that because our country of gunnison is facing this problem. there is no doubt that of canister is trying and doing its best to procure anti aircraft missiles from some the seller, the se, that hello, she has a washer and dryer me not for more context is graeme smith, senior consultant of got to start with the international crisis group, think tank and all sort of the book the dogs are eating them. now are war in afghanistan. mrs. smith, why is of grandest on the country coping with record levels of hunger and poverty investing the largest share of its budget in its military. we'd have to ask the

taliban, but if i were to guess it's because of canister is recovering from the deadliest war on planet earth. it was a war that displaced hundreds of thousands of people annually and killed upwards of 40050000 people year. and so in that case, eric aftermath, the taliban, have been trying very hard to establish security. and by all accounts, they have succeeded. humanitarians now say they can reach the furthest districts of afghanistan in, you know, vehicles that aren't armored without convoys of military men. and so it is very important in the chaotic aftermath of the war to establish security. how much money are we talking about and where does the parliament government getting this money from? well, the top has taken over the state apparatus and essentially not fired anybody. and they've used the same a computer systems for tracking their finances that the previous government used as

that's why, for example, the world bank and other analysts get good read us of how the revenues work, the how that are collecting something in the order of $2000000000.00 a year in state revenues, they've wiped out something like $1400000000.00 a year in corruption from the previous government. so even though they have clean house and very much reduce the levels of corruption that we're endemic under the previous regime, there is still, you know, a huge budget shortfall. and so that's why you see low spending by the taliban on things like health and education. because they really are leaning on the international community to help with some of the service deliveries are the thought of on explain to ordinary afghans who are struggling to feed the kids and kin this amount of expenditure on the military. well, i mean, i think you have to keep in mind that the insurgency of constant was overwhelming. the local nato calculated that something like 80 or 90 percent of africans,

far within one kilometer of their own homes. so, you know, the tell them are essentially explaining to their own supporters, why they are paying salaries to their own men who are now part of the security forces. so that's a, as an easy explanation to make. by all accounts, the total payroll has now balloon to something in the order of $800000.00 civil servants because you're now including a lot of these ex taliban fighters within the security forces. but you know, they have also reduced salaries, as i say corruptions. they are doing what they can to try to balance the books. and it's incredibly difficult time in the interview to, to the army chief, went on to say, and i quote, we have a large number of former defense force in our organization. the news coming out of, of gone is on was that the thought about of actively targeting former army members? is that not the case?

so the news coming out of afghanistan should be read with an understanding. a lot of people producing the news were fighting against the taliban and in the previous war for 20 years. so you know, it's not exactly an unbiased picture that we get here in the west anyways. yes, it is correct. that the taliban have been hunting down some elements of the previous security forces, particularly in the intelligence and the notorious militias that were so widely known for their abuses during the previous regime. and so yes, there are a number of of reprisal killings. those are very well documented by the united nations, but you know, they have been on a fairly small scale. this is by some accounts, the most bloodless transfer of power that afghanistan is seen in the last century. because the taliban issued an amnesty and they told members of security forces that look, we're not going to hunt you down, we're not going to kill you. in fact, they have been bringing on

a number of these people for their technical expertise because, you know, given mine to tell them, took over a very large state apparatus and they didn't know how to run it. and so not just in the security mysteries, but all across the government, the talbot had been forced to work with the people who used to be fighting them in order to try to make the state run. is that where most of these are 300000 serving members of the military. a number of the president joe biden gave in 2021 went well. so officially there was what was called a test keeler. a roster of about 350000 members of the army police and intelligent services under the previous government. and there had always been concerns that a large number of those so called personnel were just ghosts that somebody was pocketing the money and you know, spiriting and out of the country. and you know, as we saw with

a child and offensive in 2021 that did turn out to be true. as you know, these units just melted away, disappeared or, or just never existed in the 1st place. so when the taliban disbanded the former security forces, in some places there wasn't anything to disband in other places, it did result in really wholesale unemployment, particularly in the provinces of action on an angle. har, which had supplied a lot of manpower to the previous security forces. and then in other places, as you see now, the television, bringing back for a personnel and incorporating them into their new security forces, which they're in the process of rebuilding that i was having questions raised a time and again about the amount of your us military equipment left behind the parent joint forces. this includes helicopters and guns, for instance. can you help us clarify this? has any of that been useful to the public on this is been tremendously useful to the taliban. a lot of the equipment that was left behind serve to to arm the

taliban security forces. in fact, that was a process that was already ongoing or the last 20 years, because the enormously corrupt security forces were selling their weapons, selling their ammunition to the taliban. and so the taliban are very familiar with how to use the u. s. supplied weaponry. i think we have not yet seen the sort of wholesale spread of weapons into the region as some had feared there were serious concerns and tell them to cover that there might be spill over, for example, left over weaponry into the forgotten valley and destabilize central asia. that you might see some of this weapon returning up in large numbers in kashmir. and we haven't really seen that on the scale that had been feared because the taliban had been trying to round up left over weaponry and do safe control and storage of these armaments. and so it remains to be seen. i think whether the taliban can can meet

that challenge of trying to clean up all the left over weaponry that is all over this territory. but that's again, another reason why the town are investing so heavily in security right now. we live there for the time being the thank you so much for that. very interesting perspective and context. greg smith, thank you. and as they have through many years of war and instability, the afghan people are doing what they can with what little they have to make do in daily life. we leave you with a look at teachers in dangle hard province will, must cross a fast moving river every day to reach the jobs. to prince, you to morrow could 53

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