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ah they may have been sitting next to each other, but their words, they were worlds apart at the un security council to day un boss and tony yogurt. harish warned that the risk of a global war is at an historic high thinks impart to russia's invasion of ukraine. now adding to today's irony, russia's foreign minister, 2nd elaborate, he also sounded the alarm saying, not even the cold war had been as dangerous as the here. and now he also pointed to ukraine. but he pointed the finger at nato and the united states. i'm regarding berlin, this is the day. ah,
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as was the case in the cold war, we have reached a dangerous possibly even more dangerous threshold. as we sit here, russian forces continued to kill and injure civilians. was washington and its allies refused. diplomacy and press for the solution of disputes on the battlefield . as we said, here we brace ourselves for the next little chat. the next mary uphold the next person. the next war crime, the next unconscionable atrocity. ah, also coming up, it has happened again here in berlin climate change activists brought traffic to a standstill to day by glueing themselves to the asphalt. i'm not even believable. does everybody have to suffer because of them? it's unbelievable chaos everywhere. the whole city and chaos just locked them up. i was iceman. ah, oh to our viewers watching on p
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b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day at the un security council where 2 different views of war and peace collided today. un secretary general antonio gutierrez, warned that russia's war in ukraine more than ever has the potential to more into a wider and deadlier conflict of russia's foreign minister sergey lab. rob. he agreed with gutierrez on that point, but that is where their common ground hit a cliff. lever off said that nato is fueling violence in ukraine by cindy weapons there. and he added that russian missile attacks on ukraine. he said that they're being launched to stop at western weapons from being used against russia. lever of accused the united states and the west of global bully and of making a mockery of multi lateralism ticklish. was amy distinguished colleagues, we have reached the threshold, may be more dangerous than in the cold war,
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worse than by the loss of and faith and multilateralism. as the financial and economic aggression of the west, destroys the benefits of globalization. when the u. s. in its allies, abandoned diplomacy and demand relations be clarified on the battlefield. all this in the halls of the united nations, created to prevent the horrors of war lifted the british noodles roughly. will our correspondent m u. s. if he is in new york covering today's meeting of the un security council, i mean, it's good to see you. there was a lot of yeah, blaming shifting the blame today for the russian invasion of ukraine. i'm wondering who was sergei leverett? who was he really speaking to today with his speech? that's a really good question because it certainly wasn't the united states and it wasn't ukraine. he was critical of united states global power. and it seems that he was addressing those countries around the world that are critical of the u. s's. use of its status as a super power to quote unquote force it's western style democracy in all areas of
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the world. now, there is brazil, which is sitting as of rotating member of the security council, which has recently made headlines for refusing to support ukraine with weapons arguing instead for a negotiated piece. and i believe that russia really hopes to rat to bring in these countries that are kind of sitting on the fence between us and russian power and create some kind of an alliance in that regard. leverage attempt here failed to day . brazil did use the opportunity to criticize us power and call from multilateralism on a global stage. but the brazilian representative also condemned of russia's invasion of ukraine, pointing out and suggesting that it was more of a violation of the un charter than any kind of a of protocol violations with respect to negotiation. so most countries really
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sat at the table, listen to laugh rav and then after his speech, said, well lever of sir. russia is the one that broke the un charter by invading ukraine . yeah, i mean, i'm just, i was going to ask, you mean, what type of blow back did on leverage get from ukraine's western allies after the speech? it was surprisingly civil. the response within the you in the security council meeting today, this open debate. you had many countries thinking russia for a presiding over the conference. nobody walked out and protest, as some people had hoped, as ukraine had some alluded to as a possible measure to show russia that it's not welcome at the table any more. everybody sat there and they listen to the debate and they participated in it because multilateralism is a founding principal of the u. n. m. now what at that could show, however, is that is itself a rebuke of russia's attempt to kind of hijack this debate here. and claim
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multilateralism has its own principal here by participating in this bait. they showed russia that we falling the principles of the un and that doesn't change our opinion that the invasion of ukraine is legal. t w's. i mean, as if with the latest to night, from even headquarters in new york. i mean, thank you. ah. is the answer to europe's energy problems blowing in the wind? a group of western european countries says yes, and they're betting on wind energy from the north sea leaders gathered to day at the belgian court of austin. they want to use wind turbines to cut greenhouse gas emissions and to reduce their dependence on russian oil and natural gas of security . that's also high on the agenda. leaders say that resources and manpower will go towards protecting the underwater electricity grid from sabotaged. here is what the belgian justice minister said when dw news asked what needs to be done
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to protect the green energy infrastructure. security is a big issue. i mean, you've seen incidence like the sub, a 1000 and honesty man by fines. we've seen the presence of russian spy ships in our north sea. this is really a, this is a, this is a big problem. and so that's the reason i want to conclude and to prepare a north sea security packed, in which we will foresee for all critical infrastructure, minimal security standards to have to be respected by all countries. we want to create also a platform on which incidents will be reported. and our belgian government already has provided $1000000.00 euros to, to develop such above from at the same time also make agreements on a eventual intervention if there are incidents. and that's the reason why tonight, not only 9 countries will be at my table, but also nato will be there because we know the security has been a big issue. know at the first's a nazi summit and done marker last year. security was not yet an issue today,
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it is an issue, and it needs to be an issue. well, as you can hear there, there is apparently a real russian threat to the future of europe's energy infrastructure. a team of norton journalists have spent the past year following dozens of russian vessels in the north sea. now, many times these ships are registered as fishing trawlers, but these reporters say that the crews on board they're looking for more than just seafood w. terry schultz has the store, they're conte closing because they all can silently, through the north sea with their communication devices turned off. but unlike the legendary vessels cruising this spirit cruise, these russian ships most definitely are manned by men who didn't like these. danish journalists, looking at them, i think now watching us the 2 men staring at us. mm. given
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russian spy ships using the cover a fishing trainer oceanographic research are nothing new for decades. they've surveilled nation pipelines, underwater, cables, oil and gas infrastructure and military exercises. at the red things up to with intelligence ideology is done multiple long and closely every knowledge to return on as razzle very often folks are you trying to everything after the sabotage of the nord strain gas pipelines last september, highlighted the potential for such attacks. nato stepped up, it's assistant, we have established all a cell as in edward court to coordinate their fort spawn a dollars. this is on to which is honda and they to a jungle. but the nordic broadcasters investigation underscores just how wide spread and brightened the activity can be. they tracked the routing of 50 ships going back years and discovered that several 100 may be involved. one ship in particular, caught their eye months before the nordstrom attacks, the mil cart 5 officially a fishing trawler crossed a major under c cable off the scoreboard archipelago,
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$130.00 times. just before the line was cut. coincidence looked amazon. that was a completely illogical reason, thought another jeweler, as we move in seeing the mountain cliffs, they are saying they're still on sizing for such a limited area. was it on 30 twins? okay. i'm on field fishermen from those doesn't look like regular activity circles . while sanctions on moscow have reduced the access of russian ships to north sea waters, norway still has 3 harbors open to them for legitimate activities, like refueling landing fish repairing ships. but this new evidence indicating abuse of those privileges is raising questions in norway. we could, you know, set an example and say that in know, these ships are not allowed to to salen, which in water or to m to use the region harbors anymore. i think there are, there are some room room for action. there are definitely, while the russian government denies the allegations did dreaming of its military
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resources in ukraine, may make this type of hybrid attack on keeps allies increasingly attractive. is that make sure that you actually harm someone without you know, it being a declaration of war necessarily. your way has just kicked out 15 russian embassy officials accusing them of being intelligence agents. perhaps making seaborne spying even more crucial for the kremlin. so my colleague, terry shoulds, she filed the report, she joins me now from our brussels bureau. terry, it's good to see you. you're reporting there. me, there should be a wake up call to anybody, particularly european leaders who see that. and i'm wondering how vulnerable is europe's energy infrastructure to sabotage and attack will rent. it's not just the energy infrastructure. people may not be aware of that. almost all internet
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traffic i travels via under c cable. so if, if one of them gets cut, it could disrupt our entire lives. and this is something that policy makers have known about for a long time. but i think they just didn't realize how vulnerable they were, or perhaps how, how much they're the russian ships were actually doing this espionage. and i think we all really have to credit these teams of scandinavian journalists because they spent a year looking into this. and they tracked years of russian ship traffic, and that's how they finally brought to light. just how prevalent this practice is and how worried everybody should be a you, you become a good point. the vulnerability is there in has been there for a long time. but let's just assume a bunch of cables under the north sea were to be suddenly severed. and what would some of the possible effects be? well, as i mentioned, if the internet were cut off. c we'd all be in a lot of trouble, but some of the other traffic that goes the under see cables is for example,
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banking information. the swift system connects between europe and the united states, sending everything from from wire transfers to, to sort of a t m transactions. that kind of thing, i mean, it's hard to imagine something that wouldn't be affected if these under see cables were cut to the documentary, it says that this kind of alleged snoopy. but it's been going on for years. and, and hardly anyone noticed really well, i think they just didn't put it together because you know, only after this documentary came out. so just in the last couple of weeks then the people started remembering that we'd actually seen a ship, a russian ship sailing way down here by the netherlands and by belgium. and they started to think, my gosh, it's all linked to this sort of north sea ghost lead this, this number of ships that are, are, you know, masquerading as fishing trawlers or ocean ocean,
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a graphic research vessels. and again, these journalists found out after tracking 50 set ships that several 100 may actually be in the service of espionage. that's amazing that several 100 ships trawling the north sea, supposedly under, under legal, legal reasons are actually spying. i've to ask you before, when i have time and nothing has been proven that parallels here on the parallels are being drawn to the north stream of pipeline explosion blast. well, i mean, what are investigations there? what are they saying? so for that is still a big mystery and that's what makes a lot of people think that it wasn't russia because if it was russia that blew up those pipelines that would have been, you know, announced quite early. so that adds to the mystery. and in fact, brussels bureau chief, alexander vietnam, and ask the north sea leaders tonight if they can give us an update on the north stream attacks. and they said no, in fact i've had many people tell me that we may never know who blew up those
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pipelines, but those are just an example of what can be done and how apparently easily it can be done. so this is a wake up call and nato and the european union are finally putting their powers together and saying, we need to protect the infrastructure. we need to do more. we can't leave it just to those, those nations that have the cables running through their territory. so certainly this has been a wake up call the nordstrom attacks. and now this documentary, and i think we're going to see a lot more surveillance of the under see cables and pipelines now. yeah, we're good on you for putting the spotlight on this vulnerability. as you say, it's been out there all the law w's, terry shoals force on the story tonight is always terry, thank you. thank you. with these top diplomat says that he is hopeful of finalizing a deal to buy badly needed munitions for ukraine. at a summit of foreign ministers meeting in luxembourg today,
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joseph brill so the situation is one of extreme urgency no european union leaders agreed to a deal last month to purchase ammo for key, but that deal it's been stalled. due to disagreements, right here in europe. you ministers are debating a 1000000000 euro joint procurement to boost your cranes ammunition supplies. but it's not an easy deal to make. there's disagreement over how much of the business related to the purchase of arms will stay strictly what than to you. i'm sure that in the following day we will reach. but why lulu, for this legal of women don't believe that we are just sitting on wiping. the whole workers is going to whole work. as i often was, the legal lou ridge there would practical work where we finish. the joint procurement plan is part of a multi track. you deal to get 1000000 artillery shells and missiles to cream
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within the next here. track one of the plan is to reimburse 1000000000 euros to e u countries for sending munitions to ukraine from their existing stock track to involves increasing the production of ammunition to match ukraine's needs. many of you government agreed to buy the munitions from firms within the block, as well as from none e. u. member norway. but fans with a substantial arms industry of its own has insisted production should take place only within the european union, ukraine, and its staunchest allies. insist that decision should not be delayed by bureaucratic disputes. i understand those who want to see a european military industry flourishing. indeed we need that. but if we delay, currently, ukrainians might not push as far and as successfully as they could with our services. therefore, speed is the main factor,
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but we should be looking for now. for ukraine, any delay in the decision of weapons delivery means less chance of recapturing occupied territory and more of its soldiers losing their lives on the front lines. d w's rosie bird charge. she is, and she was at that meeting and luxembourg, and we asked her, will the european union be able to fully meet ukraine's ammunition needs in the future or ukraine will keep pushing. i think that is one thing that's clear, the ukrainian minister joined these talks virtually. and i think from, based on what i've heard from people in the room, it was really more of what you might describe of as a virtual dressing don't. i'm told to use harsh language to try and convince these e u members. no, i think the debate will continue over the next coming days among ambassadors at a more technical level. and certainly the european union's foreign affairs, too few except barrels told us in a press conference he expects some sorts of agreements in the coming days. and the often like the stress that it's not just when it comes to ammunition or military 8
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that it's supporting ukraine, but also in other tracks, for example, welcoming millions of ukrainian refugees into the european union. and of course, the ukraine also wants one day to have a seat at this very table to one day joined the european union. as you says, it's a court in key on that front as well when it comes to reforms. but ukraine, i think you can rest assured will keep pushing for this. keep pushing for ammunition because of course what keith says is, this is really a matter of life or death. ah, for they will not be ignored. climate protection activists blocked dozens of roads right here, the german capital, berlin to day, causing traffic jams on many of the cities busy of streets. the roadblocks were in pro just of the german government climate policies, which the actors say do not go far enough to stop t y mate change. some of the protesters from the group that's known as last
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generation. you see right there, they glued themselves to the surfaces of highways. the purchase lasted about an hour causing huge snore, whoops, in berlin's traffic, and the tempers of some murderous. you can imagine. flared up. i'm not even believable. does everybody have to suffer because of them? it's unbelievable chaos everywhere. the whole city and chaos just lock them up. i work, i spend i'm janelle, by josefina shanker. she took part in today's purchase here in berlin as part of the press team for last generation. she's also a research assisted at the frown hall for institute for solar energy systems. it's good to have you where this to night. i mean, you saw that one gentleman there. he was i rate with what you guys did today. would you say that your protest was a success? yes. well, today's protest as very successful, hundreds of people to day went into peaceful civil disobedience. and by blocking
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the street to show the federal government that its climate policies is far from sufficient to protect our and especially the future livelihood. and we have protests at $20000.00 places in berlin, which is 3 times as many as the last protest base. so our movement is increasingly growing and we are really happy with this day. we josefina, you know, you're on your action today. you purposely inconvenience to a lot of drivers. i don't know if you really got to the government, but you know, you got the point across to a lot of people in their cars or was that part of the plan? yes, of course. our strategy is to use peaceful civil disobedience by blocking the streets . and of course it's not nice. it's nice for us. we really understand the anger of people when they're stopped in the day and i've been interrupted in the day life and but as i said, we are not doing these robots. but because we see the needs of peaceful,
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digital civil disobedience as a very effective strategy of bringing the urgency of kind of crisis back into the public eye and debate. and especially putting pressure not on the people but on the government so that it has to comply with their own loss, which is the basic law of the federal constitution as well as the parents agreement . but i'm wondering the of you considered some unintended consequences here. i mean, you may be getting some supporters by what you did today, but you may also be alienating people. i mean, these drivers, super just fed up with you today. don't you need people like these drivers don't you need them to be on board with you and to be behind your calls. i think you have to differentiate between protest and between the support for climate policies. and we can see that the majorities are we half public majority for climate protect. it exists in the population. there are the solutions there also that ologies and to
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achieve an ecological transformation. and but the problem is that the government does not implement these solutions. so therefore, we don't, we don't really see the problem with the popularity of climate protection, but we really see the problem in the government. and there are the ali travis, them want to put pressure on them to comply with the parents is ryland. we were looking at pictures here of people who glued their hands are good, their bodies to the pavement turned to the asphalt. the ask you give to me to have you ever super glued your hand to something in pro just yes, of course i also myself went into a peaceful civil disobedience include my hands on the streets to interrupt the day to live. and to really reminds that the climate crisis is the most dangerous crisis
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with face. and if we don't make drastic change, we will have intense global suffering, which we already have just a, i'm just a real. i'm really curious about this. what happened to you once you had glued your hand to the street, what happened? i mean usually you sit in the street until the police comes and they take you in cassidy. and sometimes you are cute and you have to pay fines. these are all very negative consequences and, but we think that we have to endure these consequences to show that they can crisis, will surpass the 3rd negative cause that consequences by far, than just paying a fine. yeah. and let me ask you just a few to what, what happens to your hand? i mean, obviously you're stuck to the pavement. what the job remove it? or did the police, how did you keep your hand with you?
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yes, the police has to remove the glue and they're doing it by adding a little bit of oil. and it's a very easy procedure actually. so, and it's not really much about it, and we only use the glue to kind of prolong the buckets. and again, increase the awareness about the climb crisis. okay, well you definitely increasing the awareness you got our attention and we appreciate you and your your hands for joining us tonight. you're on the day of finance banker with last generation on. thank you for talking with us tonight. thank you very much. or the day is almost done. the conversation continues online, you'll find us on still on twitter, either dw, do you could follow me up still on twitter at brent golf t. v. and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day, we'll see that everybody
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