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ah, my name is melissa chan, thanks for joining us. we take a closer look today at 2 of the world's most populous countries. india and china. china has claimed the top spot since the 1950s, but india is forecast to finally overtake china's population. they are both neck and neck at 1400000000 citizens. but india's population is set to keep growing, kicking in the 20 sixty's or china's appears to be already declining. keep in mind that because china and india collect census data differently, and we're talking about large numbers here that we do not know precisely when india surpasses china. but demographers say it is happening sometime this month. it may have actually already happy. now, despite india surpassing china's numbers,

both countries have the daunting task of a growing elderly population that their economies will need to take care of. and both governments currently have inadequate social safety nets to ensure a dignified life. for many of those getting older between 20232015, the number of persons aged 65 are over, is expected to nearly double in china and to more than double in india. these trends, whole attention to the challenges of providing social support and protection to growing numbers of older persons. china's population boom and projected decline paints a fascinating picture of an authoritarian state that 1st pushed people to have children. then reversed course, to implement a family planning policy that limited many couples to just one child, and now it faces this demographic dropped while simultaneously seeing its elderly population grow. urine, remember that in the 1009,

his young chinese workers from the countryside, flooded cities to take a factory and construction jobs. fueling the boom that saw china become the world's 2nd largest economy. that liverpool is shrinking and like it did in 19 fifties. the government is now encouraging women to have more children. again, that's why you have baiting playing down this demographic milestone. dismissing it, as unnecessary hype, officials are privately worried, even though they are publicly staying up beat through toyota sign is still has one point. 4000000000 people, newton 900000000 of working age torture drug work. we've implemented a national strategy to actively respond to the aging population poacher to torture children. as premier li chung pointed out, china's demographic dividend has not disappeared on how talent dividend is taking shape and development momentum remain strong. moderate to eat your child. so there's much excitement in india, but even back in the year,

2000 when the country marked it's 1000000000 baby with great fanfare, the conversation was already shifting, especially among educated urban elites who like their counterparts around the world, were wanting fewer children today. many people equate population growth with a declining quality of life, either with a chip on it either way or the progress is of them. but he's mia the countries making of his, of his in technology. and does he have really, whatever unemployment, while we're living in as it is, is the 2 of the problems, the hunger are hungry. my hunger can be our biggest challenge because there's not adequate food for everyone in this country. people need more housing facilities as the population is increasing, but it's not available in india because our land area is much smaller as compared to china. how much i know a lot of people should know that having children is not the issue, but raising them is the focus should be on a healthy upbringing. g 7. honda,

having fewer children, is a trend also playing out among muslims. the country's largest minority group with the highest fertility rate by birth control, options and education are pushing more in the community to make the decisions for smaller families. i thought likes been founded by family. she'd grew up in a conservative with them household in new delhi with 6 other siblings. decades ago, it was the norm for muslim parents to have 7 children. but masters degree holder reisa decided to have only do i saw today, and i will. ready different people have different ideas that was with the majority of muslims, especially the clerical types believe in propagate. that these things contraception and family planning. i've been on my god and our god has said so that is why one should not practice any of them. but actually there is no such thing in the quran.

1 0, indian muslim women have, on average $2.00 children, the highest, the gross or religion, the country. but deandre has also seen the biggest decline over last 20 years, suggesting that muslim families have embraced family planning. oh, scholarship asylum, belief education has changed to muslim demographics. in india. we have been interpreting loaf tenets or so in the more than we and in the event that is more useful for the common people. so all this thing leaves us and you know, i will be in the facilities in the future that must feel that everybody is motivated and doesn't have any kind of good adopting from the valley. around 200 kilometers away from delhi is the city of motor park muslims make up 46 percent of the population here. the younger generation of this local muslim family. i've

defined orthodoxy was the cost of living. i of course higher than the or yeah, but it does not need a expense. we are not having the children right now. and this is what i think is planning based right now we are there before the goods are right now. we don't want them to be in our life right now. we want to live the life for ourselves. also, indians feet guffman happened to do separate measures to slow down population could, on average india's fidelity date has fallen due to a personal choice that could play a huge role in shaping the future of the country. joining us is putting up with treasure of the population foundation of india. thank you so much for coming on the program. so it's a big moment for india with a lot of focus on the numbers. but population growth either makes people nervous

due to questions about sustaining a good quality of life for so many or economists get excited about the future labor pool. where do you fall on this spectrum? actually in death falls on the 2nd spectrum because india has a huge young population. we have 350000000 people who are below the age 25. so there is an excitement about the prospect of economic growth. accelerated the potential of what economists and demographers of population dividend. so that is where india right now is because the population is going to grow for some time because we have a young population. and number 2, we have 25 years of window of opportunity to scale out people and have

people not only contribute to economic growth in india, but globally, because fertility is declining at an alarming rate in large number of countries. china, japan, korea, and he talk about this opportunity that these 25 years. so what is the policy suggestion? you give the indian government? what's the number one policy suggestion when it comes to handling it's new status as the world's most populous country? so without losing any time being need to start killing up people, we need higher education, better quality, higher education, which is coupled with which is combined with skills, skill development, in areas where they are economic growth opportunities and 2nd women's empowerment. because unless you invest in women and they have the agency to decide

how many children they have and not to marry early and go on to participating in the economy only then in the are really become a developed country. and no country in the world has it been able to achieve without equal participation of them and to the g d p growth and greater empowerment of them. and those are the 2 big things for india and opportunities for women to right. and so is that trending in the right direction? because sometimes you see in the news setbacks for women's equality in india. but are we seeing that it's training in the right direction in terms of women in the workforce? women in control of their reproductive reproductive capabilities know that a b, b need to do a lot more. but the real issue here is that the girls and women in india,

their aspirations have changed even because they've seen how the better half lives . and so why the government may not have invested so much and women's environment, it is that goes on aspirations that are needing them to take a goal or marrying late educating more it's extra. so are there any lessons that can be drawn from china's demographic experience for india to learn from whether these are mistakes made or a good beijing policy? the good policy made by beijing was that they invested in education and health much before they brought in that one child policy, which was the wrong policy. but in the i'm must learn from what to do. so what

we really need to do is learn from china that in that did read by not having any on democratic process like the one child put in place after to let the has the line without any cause of measures. so we are doing the right thing, not only do you have to learn, but as i can see, like africa. i learned that by investing in development, you can achieve a stable fertility decline and not have the problem. china's being china. second problem is that they suddenly have a very big line, huge decline in the young population and a huge increase in the age age. it an india will not meet the same fate in absolutely. suddenly we will do this daily and perhaps lower than china. but we will do it steadily and the balance

between the young and the elderly will remain. and 2nd, you know, the young population that we keep talking about that india has the, the know the economy of it is much longer because of the city i'm, when i'm a kid. yeah, thank you so much for joining us. that does it for today. thank you for watching and see tomorrow with can you? yeah, we are all set. we are watching closely. we all need to bring you the story behind the new a. we're all about unbiased information for free

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