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its no limits relationship with russia. so what was this call all about? why did ukrainian president zalinski even bother to pick up the phone? i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day. ah, getting president, she jin things called with presidents lensky shows china's objected and impartial position. and that sense of responsibility. i had alone and meaningful phone called with chinese president cheese in pink. i believe that this cold, as well as the appointment of ukraine's ambassador to china, will give a powerful impetus to the development of our bilateral relations. young. it's hoped that all sides will reflect on the ukraine crisis and seek a new weight for everlasting piece in europe. together

also coming up inside the trenches and on the front lines with ukraine's citizen soldiers lomas as and says to be restored. if you have to keep positive that the, keep your spirits up aside load otherwise you won't last long on it. it's not like we can cola mothers to come and pick his uncle. he has one in my, me because this of the number, this is of it. all. those are the things that they would to our viewers watching on p b. s. in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with diplomacy between ukraine and china. the ties that bind or perhaps the ties that blind on wednesday, chinese president, she's in ping spoke with ukrainian president zalinski on the phone. their 1st contact since the russian invasion began last year, 4 months zalinski have said publicly that he would like direct talks with president she, for months there was no response. so why now? china's stance as a neutral party in the russian war against ukraine. that stance has not changed.

it's 12 point piece plan offered earlier this year. it went nowhere in china and russia remain more than just allies, thanks to their no limits relationship without mentioning russia orange invasion of you rain season paying reportedly told zalinski that china will not add fuel to the fire or take advantage of the crisis to profit. it sounds like an attempt at more ambiguity by china. how does that help ukraine? we'll discuss that in just a moment. but 1st here is what shine is. a foreign ministry said about the phone call and diplomacy with ukraine. found that when it comes to the ukraine crisis in china has always stood on the side of peace. and its core position is to promote peace talks go from china will send a special representative of the chinese governmental yeah. to visit ukraine and other countries to conduct talks with all parties for a political settlement of the crisis on to go to my 1st guess tonight is alexander

schubert ambassador at large, at ukraine's ministry of foreign affairs. he's also the former ukrainian ambassador to austria. it better, it's good to have you back on the program. i want to start by asking for your read on this phone call between presidents zalinski and she oh my read is that what we should so very carefully look at the wording that's a present zaleski chose for you, sweet. he made emphasis on a long conversation and he didn't mention for peace talks. he mentioned the strengthening of bullets we'll relation. so my understanding is that probably of course of the piece plan, the chinese piece plan was discussed. but it was just the 1st step of many m. ready so each of the beginning, ambassador,

if you could put us inside the mind of president zalinski a, why would he think that a phone call with the chinese president at this moment in time? why would it be of any positive significance for you crate? oh, the time was chosen by china. so the chinese sprained ankle 2 months ago or a year ago brennan's landscape definitely would have picked up the phone because china is big enough on board now. and we hope that they are the despite this so called no limit to operation with russia, party friendship with russia. again, see and understand who is the occupier this. ready or, and who is the victim? so of the time was sick. and by saying that they should be as the one that she's being, as we understand it did not mention russia by name or it's invasion of ukraine in

this phone call with president zelinski. in fact, the read out that was given by beijing of this phone call shows that china remains rather ambiguous as ever when it comes to the war in ukraine. the it, do you think there's an ulterior motive here then in this phone call? well hello. i think is some, are you crazy interest for urge? i not to be ambiguous, quite frankly, because it will be to the stroke. well, it will be very damaging for your cram, and i think it would be catastrophic what the world's and it would be a very, very big mistake if for some reason i would have decided to join the occupier. this of this absolutely horrific war answer not just today. ok. fire. and the rest of them did wrestle,

who is not winning this war? so i think, i think it will be just logical prudence of china to be a big is about the countries in the global self. and that includes the bricks, countries, brazil, russia, india, in china, and south africa. and they have not criticized russia for its invasion of ukraine. with any mind, i want you to take a listen to what brazil's new president lula what he said to day. it is useless to say who is right and who is wrong, perhaps. what needs to be done now as for the war to stop, i get them wish that the war has reached a point where a group of friendly countries as needed, which can bring the parties together, group or dial. i'm you and establish rules in each. the firstly they have to stop killing people. ambassador, so president lula, they are said

a group of friendly countries have to come together. do you know what countries the president has in mind? i don't know what sort of the presence of mind, but of course one thing the most important thing is for people to stop dying or should be thinking about russia withdrawing from a grain. because if you think about, you know, buying these because you paid them for them. he's talking about brush, stop, store, not dine anymore, but you craniums keep, keep dying under your face and on the rush and like a patient. so it's a little bit critical. if this is what it means, any cost be any cop, it would be, it would be just or a big decision just to be thousands and thousands of thousands of the premiums today. so profit dial and moscow. ready that's something we tried to read and i'm

a doing that again. do you think ukraine can view a country like brazil as a friend right now? well, we needed to stop. so talking with brazil because of the best. there was some from there, from where to, while just late from china. and so we need to at least try to persuade them that this is the most in do you know colonial war, oh, or time. and the brazil is against imperialism. it should be against those who conduct this kind of worse, namely against bullying. last friday in china's ambassador to france ignited a fire storm when he claimed that the former soviet republics do not have legal claims to sovereignty. which of course would mean that the annexation of crimea was legal and at the invasion of eastern ukraine by russia. it's not really an invasion

at all. do you think president, she's in pink of china? do you think he called president zalinski in an attempt to defuse that situation? well, frankly, by yesterday, this is jason with rather use, at least in the media, bring an expert circles the premium, the prevailing opinion was that it was just, it's honestly boston just the ambassador was being tired. so, or maybe not attached with this conversation because when you read the warning, him denying the solar and the right for 15, both countries including russia, including 70. wow. it's just ridiculous. i think it was just flip off and they've asked me before we let

you go, i want to ask you, do you see china at some point in the future, taking on the role of peace mediator. i mean, is it the only power that can bring both ukraine and russia to the negotiating table? well, it's not like bringing the 2 powers to the table. well, on what to discuss, what? because right now, both, both sides are ready. when negotiation just russia is ready to discuss the objective of social special military operation, then we basically relational and we are ready to discuss. it was the role of russian troops from our territory and russia, the damages they owe us. so it's just the question on what basis because you bring all ready and warm just feeding anymore them to people freedom. so the grain

most investor alexander, share. but we appreciate your time and your insights tonight as always. thank you. thank you. on the grounded ukraine. hundreds of thousands of citizens have been called up, drafted to fight against russian forces. now, for most of these young men, it's their 1st experience being part of the military. he w. nick connelly went to the front lines in the eastern don't bass region to find out how ukraine's citizen soldiers are coping in the trenches. a spring turns wet, snow to mud, keeping upright is even harder than it looks. this forest might seem empty, but it's actually full of soldiers all on the lookout. so to keep a loose it down because near here the russians are just a matter of a few 100 me to a. yvonne and his friend are in a forward position without leaves on the trees, it feels exposed,

but at least they can see russian units when they approach soon they'll be better hidden up. so we'll the other side. i call it the hook. the hardest thing is, when it's too quiet, it means the russians could be coming on foot. let the utensils be so at least when they're firing at us, it means i not sending any of them people away. luckily with the whole summer to casual glimmers be posted. you yvonne will be here for 2 days, 2 nights. that might not seem long, but it's intense and exhausting. 2 hours on watch than 2 hours sleep and watch again, powered by heat backs and energy drinks, said u p. o, this is our forced out on the over there. that's the 3 star. it's still a work in progress. i said on the 1st day we got here in the shells, hit 2030 meters away. it was incredibly loud, and you could feel everything around you. shaky. well, those individually like hundreds of thousands of ukrainian service people,

yvonne had never held a rifle before the russians invaded last year. citizen soldiers like him are having to learn fast, lo misses and says to do is to let you have to keep positive to keep your spirits up for fire lot. otherwise he won't last long. low on the for it's not like we can call our mothers to come and pick us onto. yes. why me? but so, so i'm gonna leave them and all that. those are the things that for this is the main dug out, a cave blasted into the hillside. it's warm and dry and feel safe after the constant stress outside this time and space here to take a breath force more less the yield force. we'll get children's drawings like they sent to us, please. of course why no one would ever throw them away with we keep them with destroying is from a ukrainian child who's a refugee in germany. unless

there was a letter thanking us for protecting the same were lulu, hopefully these children will be able to come home soon with the lowest. but you i'm subordinate. lou too. just with reno heath law. enquire. last year, right at the beginning of which we found out my wife was pregnant. i became a father during this war. this was i had, i got leave to be there for my son's birthday, but i didn't make it in time. so i was still traveling from the training camp when he was born. on august the 3rd year we're recording the idea that they're fighting russian now. so their children don't have to is something you hear a lot from ukrainian soldiers. no one who believes that russia is going to negotiate in good faith. this armored personnel carrier is normally used to bring

out the wounded. it knocks its passengers around so much, the soldiers joke, many of the wounded backup new injuries on their way to safety. de la, virginia watts. it should be that we're here. 247 wilcox waiting for call out of where basically you can ambulances just know that we run the risk of being killed, doing our job to meet what not pay me of charge. we honey a to casualties, and more than a dozen wounded near us just yesterday, a tumble of but out got to deal. everyone's nerves are shattered. to come up for so stay any ocean season or starlight. soldiers with extreme psychological trauma, are evacuated out to ross tells us the most have to keep going with the pills or as much help as they can expect in his civilian life. to rest worked as an urologist. he knows his way around a medicine cabinet party. jessica shaw, and i'm sorry, can you? but these are all antidepressants and anxiety medication. when you apply,

you must discharge him of i put all this together myself and provide them to any one who needs them. is the symptom which is given that we can only hope to manage the symptoms that he wash. now as the best treatment for anxiety, depression, and stress induced condition is to avoid the treatment that you have alive during wartime. that's just not possible nemea, zach theater of nero ship. see, i recommend these to everyone. i thought i loved melanie up anyway. you might wanna let them all octane upwards him. so he's she'll, she'll be alone. and it's not just the patients that are feeling the strain. so to those working here to ross tells us he to has started taking antidepressants. so clever kids, his will began over a year ago. he's only seen his family for a few days at a time. c o o. when in ulysses, shes that of sierra everyone you've met here so far? yes. we're all civilians long at all. sure. my bill is, you know, we've all been cold up yet. i did want to put a sound of hat mouse

a fit. it's our professional soldiers who are in the floors issue. she'll still know that somebody's in after that and out doing what good. so for that, ah, in brazil for were president valuables and arrow has answered questions from police over his alleged role in a tax on government buildings carried out by his supporters. last january, brazil's prosecutor says that austin aro, incited the violence in an effort to reject the results of the presidential election, often aro, travel to day to police headquarters and brazil. jo. he did not an sir. questions from reporters of the attacks followed bull scenarios defeat in last year's presidential election. also, nora was in the us state of florida at the time he has not publicly conceded losing the election to louise and oscio lula da silva. many of both scenarios, supporters believe the election was rid of a more. am janelle,

by correspondence m cal we he joins me now from sal palo in brazil. sh sab variables. and ours says that he had nothing to do with the violence there in brazil. yet, what about the court of public opinion? i mean, how credible is his story in the eyes of the public? well, i mean, that's a very, very interesting question. why? because you know, brazil going through the kind of political polarization where it is at the moment. support the blue, the silver, the current president would say that she had everything to do with the violence happened on january the 8th in the capital present, which resulted in, you know, congressional building. the supreme court being like really bad. vandalized right. much worse than january, the 6th in the united states. no cause on the other hand, what support the joy of olsen aro, who say that? no, you got nothing to do there. this is all a plot. you know, he's supportive,

he's most radical. the board is claim that this is a plot invented by lulu workers party and that actually the people that invaded the building were members viewed as workers policy that were trying to credit essentially create a false flag operations adjusted by the repair incorrect down. you know, that, you know, for most not as much brighter who supports his belief. right? yeah, i mean, you know, the, the answer taishan that he would, that he posted what was seem to be an encouraging instagram post, to grand hosting coaching the violent. and he's expectation that he was on morphine at the time. and that's why he posted the and, you know, withdrew it off with regardless pat daroolen quite a few kind of snakes of disbelief here in brazil. what can have a potion i'll reward to be convicted. i mean, could this former brazilian president, could he actually go to prison?

i'm going to read the brazilian president to go to prison. i'm going to stay in prison, right. i mean, there have been a few k them reason id boss. the overall what i'm showing here is that this case isn't really going to go very far basically because it's very difficult to really connect the dots really direct into bolton road. that's all that's all finally in any way. what's more likely that one in one of the other cases of which there are at least 16 altogether. again, both sorrow regarding online information during the pandemic. it understood that there was quite a wide chance of him being stripped of his political rights. who should mean that he wouldn't be able to run for public office in brazil many years? and it was already that essentially that his party already caught a way not who could like take his place when the next presidential elections are

held in 2026. right, so 40, that's 40 mclaughlin scenario. that universe in our is referred to as the brazilian donald trump. i mean, this case certainly has parallel to the january 6 insurrection that the u. s. capital, is it being reported that way in brazil? yeah, i mean there's, yeah, yeah, there's lots of para knows. yeah. and also with other kind of, you know, leaders with authority area meetings across the world are, was always a, you know, very close a big fan of like victor albany and hungry and all that kind of michael. so it's harry, illegal democracy as the leaders. so. so yeah, like it's, it's definitely, it's definitely been reported in a similar, in a similar way that the general uprisings in the, in the united states were reported. and, you know, for the record things are much worse here in brazil than they were in the united

states. why they genuinely was like an attempt to take power here or 2222. so that was a genuine coincidence. essentially one that didn't work out in the end. but yet it was, it was, it was certainly a very serious situation. let me ask you, sam, before we go to something completely different in this with the current president, president lula, brazil under his leadership. is that good news for china and russia? not so good news for ukraine in the united states. i mean, it's an interesting question. it's, i mean like china is a huge trading partner in brazil. biggest trading paul has been for a long time. and you know, brazil has a stone sort of known alignment and always has had, you know, through the boston are a presidency through the true balloon presidency through pretty much brazil. history of foreign policy is not alignment why brazil had like as significant trade

relationship with, with russia to because it by russian, bertha lies that it needs for you to activate this account for a quarter of brazil gdp and trying to reach the principal buyer of that you know, the, for those also training water, you know, i can safely european union and you know, what we're seeing here. i think more in terms of, you know, obviously a few of the statements have offended the ukrainian. right. and so what we really seeing here is a typical kind of non aligned policy from the global in which you basically play the major power to getting each other. and i think that's what this is really about here. and that actions speak louder than words and reduce has condemned, you know, the ukrainian, or russian invasion of ukraine at united nations. while, you know, that has been a few comments by president luda here. and there that had been that had cause

defense grain and understandably so, but again, this is a typically not a line policy from the global south, which brazil is possible. journalist sam kelly, sam, we appreciate your time in your reporting tonight. thank you. thanks so much. good, ah, and finally tonight it is late april, but in many parts of spain it feels light. late july, temperatures are expected this week to reach 39 degrees celsius. that's 86 degrees fahrenheit. this early heat wave comes in spain is already in the 3rd year of below average rainfall. water levels in many rivers are at record lows, so low that local authorities have even been rescuing the fish. they transported fish from this river in ne spain to a nearby river that has a higher water level. spanish meteorologists are blaming this extreme early hot weather on climate change. while the day's almost done, the conversation continues on wine, you'll find it on twitter either eddie w. news,

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