and on our website, that's to be found a d w dot com. ah, beijing says it will send a special envoy to you craig. keith is sending a new ambassador to china. the results of a phone call, the 1st between the president of ukraine and china since the russian invasion began last year. how important was this phone call and why did beijing agreed to talk? now? chinese president, she's in p, reportedly said nothing of russia and its invasion of ukraine. and shyness still has its no limits relationship with russia. so what was this call all about? why did ukrainian president zalinski even bother to pick up the phone? i'm broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, eating president, she jin pings called with president lensky shows china's objected and impartial

position. and that sense of responsibility. i had alone and meaningful phone called with chinese president cheese in pink. i believe that this cold, as well as the appointment of ukraine's ambassador to china, we'll give a powerful impetus to the development of our bilateral relations. young pitts hoped that all sides will reflect on the ukraine crisis and seek the new weight for everlasting piece in europe. together. also coming up inside the trenches and on the front lines with ukraine's citizen soldiers known as as, and says to be mister, what you have to keep positive to keep your spirits up. i loathed otherwise. he won't last long on it. it's not like we can corner mothers to come and pick us out . he has one in one me, possess of amenities as of it. all. those are the things that they would to our viewers watching on p b. s. in the united states,

into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with diplomacy between ukraine and china. the ties that bind or perhaps the ties that blind on wednesday, chinese president, she's in ping spoke with ukrainian president zalinski on the phone. their 1st contact since the russian invasion began last year, 4 months zalinski have said publicly that he would like direct talks with president she, for months there was no response. so why now? china's stance as a neutral party in the russian war against ukraine. that stance has not changed. it's 12 point piece plan offered earlier this year. it went nowhere in china and russia remain more than just allies, thanks to their no limits relationship without mentioning russia orange invasion of you rain season paying reportedly told zalinski that china will not add fuel to the fire or take advantage of the crisis to profit. it sounds like an attempt at more ambiguity by china. how does that help ukraine?

we'll discuss that in just a moment. but 1st here is what shine is. a foreign ministry said about the phone call and diplomacy with ukraine. to found that when it comes to the ukraine crisis in china has always stood on the side of peace. and its core position is to promote peace talks. don't fall. china will send a special representative of the chinese governmental yeah. to visit ukraine and other countries to conduct talks with all parties for a political settlement of the crisis on to go to my 1st guess tonight is alexander schubert, ambassador at large at ukraine's ministry foreign affairs. he's also the former ukranian ambassador to austria, and better it's good to have you back on the program. i want to start by asking for your read on this phone call between presidents zalinski and she well my read is that what we should so very carefully look at the wording that's a president zaleski shows what use he my emphasis on

a long conversation. and he didn't manson for peace talks. he mentioned the strengthening of bullets. we'll relation. so my understanding is that probably of course of the piece plan to change the plan was this cost, but it was just the 1st step of many i'm so we just the beginning ambassador, if you could put us inside the mind of president zelinski a, why would he think that a phone call with the chinese president at this moment in time. why would it be of any positive significance for you crate? oh, the time was chosen which i now so hm. you sprained ankle 2 months ago or a year ago? prisons landscape. definitely would have picked up the phone because china is big

enough on board and now, and we moved and they are the despite this so called no limit to operation with russia. martin friendship with russia a see and understand who is the occupier this. ready or, and who is the victim? so of the time was owned by china. they should be as the one that she's being, as we understand it did not mention russia by name or it's invasion of ukraine in this phone call with president zelinski. in fact, the read out that was given by beijing of this phone call shows that china remains rather ambiguous as ever when it comes to the war in ukraine. to it, do you think there's an ulterior motive here? then in this phone call? hello. i think is some, are you craigs interest for it's i not to be ambiguous,

quite frankly, because it will be good, a strong well, it will be very damaging for your graham and i think it will be the softening for the world's and it will be a very, very big mistake child, for some reason would have decided to do in the occupier this. oh, this absolutely horrific or a war answer? no, just it. okay. fire and the rest of the aggressor who is not winning this war. so i think, i think it will be just logical prudence of china, or to be a big is about the countries in the global self. and that includes the bricks, countries, brazil, russia, india, and china, and south africa. and they have not criticized russia for its invasion of ukraine. with any mind i want you to take

a listen to what brazil's new president lula. what he said today, it is useless to say who is right and who is wrong there. what needs to be done now, but there is for the war to stop. i get them wish that the war has reached a point where a group of friendly countries as needed for which can bring the parties together, group, or dialogue you and establish rules in each the firstly they have to stop killing people. ambassador, so president lula there said a group of friendly countries have to come together. do you know what countries the president has in mind? i don't know what sort of the presence of mind, but of course one thing the most important thing is for people to stop dying or should be thinking about russia withdrawing from the grain because he thinks about, you know, buying these because of them that he's talking about fractions,

stop the store, not dying anymore, but your premiums keep it, keep dying under your face, on the rush and basically. so it's a little bit critical. if this is what it means, any cost piece of any up it will be, will be just for a big decision just to be thousands and thousands of thousands of the premiums today. so crocodile and moscow, that's something we thrive all ready and be doing that again. do you think ukraine can view a country like brazil as a friend right now? well, we need to stop. so talking with brazil because of the bus. there was some from there from where to, while just like from china. and so we need to at least try to persuade them that this is the most indeed, no colonial war. oh,

our time. and the brazil is against imperialism. it should be against those who conduct this kind or worse, namely against bullying. last friday in china's ambassador to france ignited a fire storm when he claimed that the former soviet republics do not have legal claims to sovereignty. which of course would mean that the annexation of crimea was legal and at the invasion of eastern ukraine by russia. it's not really an invasion at all. do you think president, she's in pink of china? do you think he called president zalinski in an attempt to defuse that situation? frankly, by yesterday the station was, rather if you at least can you bring a media and bring an expert in circles, the premium, the prevailing opinion was that it was just the just, the ambassador was being tired or maybe not

detached with this conversation. because when you read the warning, him denying the solar and the the right for 15 both. so this whole post august countries including russia including 70. wow. it's just some particular i think, and it was just flip off and they've asked me before we let you go, i want to ask you, do you see china at some point in the future, taking on the role of piece mediator. i mean, is it the only power that can bring both ukraine and russia to the negotiating table? well, it's not bringing the 2 powers to the table well, on what to discuss, what?

because right now, both, both sides are ready. when negotiation just russia is ready to discuss the objective of social special military operation, then we basically and we are ready to discuss. it was the role of russian troops from our territory and russia, the damages they owe us. so it's just the question on what basis because you bring all ready and warm just feeding anymore them to people and freedom. so the grain most investor alexander, share but we appreciate your time and your insights tonight as always. thank you. thank you. on the ground and ukraine, hundreds of thousands of citizens have been called up, drafted to fight against russian forces. now, for most of these young men, it's their 1st experience being part of the military. he w. nick connelly went to the front lines in the eastern. don't best region to find

out how ukraine's citizen soldiers are coping in the trenches. a spring turns wet, snow to mud, keeping upright is even harder than it looks as forest might seem empty, but it's actually full of soldiers, old on the lookout. sort of people who sit down because near here the russians are just a matter of a few 100 me to a yvonne and his friend are in a ford position. without leaves on the trees, it feels exposed. but at least they can see russian units when they approach soon they'll be better hidden. but so will the other side. i call it the hook. the hardest thing is when it's too quiet, it means the russians could be coming on foot. let the utensils be so at least when they're firing at us, it means i not sending any of them people away. luckily with the whole summer to care circle in will be posted. you yvonne will be here for 2 days,

2 nights. that might not seem long, but it's intense and exhausting. 2 hours on watch than 2 hours sleep than watch, again, powered by heat backs and energy drinks. such a few articles. oh, this is our forced out on the over there. that's the 3 dog. it's still a work in progress. i said on the 1st day we got here in the shells, hit 2030 meters away. it was incredibly loud. and you could feel everything around you. shaky will. those individually like hundreds of thousands of ukrainian service people. yvonne had never held a rifle before the russians invaded last year. citizen soldiers like him are having to learn fast, lo misses and says to do is to let you have to keep positive so. so keep your spirits up for fire, lord. otherwise, he won't last long, low on the for it's not like we can call our mothers to come and pick us onto the other one in one me, but a social number. this is about all those 3 things and 3, this is the main dug out, a cave blasted into the hillside. it's warm and dry and feel safe of the constant

stress outside this time and space here to take a breath. for small is less the yield force, we'll get children's drawings like they sent to us and why no one would ever throw them away with. we keep them with destroying is from a ukrainian child who's a refugee in germany. not there was a letter thanking us for protecting the same were lulu. hopefully these children will be able to come home soon with the lowest. she'll be able to put you on some border. lou with. busy no, no, he's not quite last year, but right at the beginning of which we found out my wife was pregnant. i became

a father during this war. this was i got leave to be there for my son's birthday, but i didn't make it in time, so it or i was still traveling from the training camp when he was born. on august the 3rd year we're recording the idea that they're fighting russian now. so that children don't have to is something you hear a lot from ukrainian soldiers. no one he believes that russia is going to negotiate in good faith. this armored personnel carrier is normally used to bring out the wounded. it knocks its passengers around so much, the soldiers joke, many of the wounded pick up new injuries on their way to safety de la virginia watts. it should be that we're here 247 wilcox waiting for coal out. go where basically an ambulance service. just know that we run the risk of being killed, doing our job to meet what not me, of china. we honey a to casualties. and more than a dozen wounded near us just yesterday

a tumble up bought out. got to deal everyone from earth. ow! shattered to come up for so stay any ocean seen in a starlight. soldiers with extreme psychological trauma are evacuated out. to ross tells us the most have to keep going with the pills or as much help as they can expect in his civilian life. to rest worked as an urologist, he knows his way around a medicine cabinet party. jessica shaw, and i'm sorry. can you? but these are all antidepressants and anxiety medication when you apply, you must use a shelf shem of i put all this together myself and provide them to anyone who needs them is the symptom which is given that we can only hope to manage the symptoms that he wash, now, as the best treatment for anxiety, depression, and stress induced condition, is to avoid the treatment that you have alive during wartime. that's just not possible. mean isn't so you're throw me, it was ship c m, i recommend these to every one or have somebody in the line up anywhere in your mouth, wash them,

let them all acumen oppose him. so he feels heavy of him and it's not just the patients that are feeling the strain. so to those working here to ross tells us he to has started taking antidepressants. kids. his will began over a year ago. he's only seen his family for a few days at a time. see how a winning unit. shes at of sierra. everyone you've met here so far. yes. we're all civilians long at all. sure. my bill is, you know, we've all been cold up yet. i did want to put a sound of hat mouse a fit. it's our professional soldiers when the floors issue shows to look at them. i mean, is it after that and out doing what? good. so for them, ah, in brazil for were president valuables and arrow has answered questions from police over his alleged role in a tax on government buildings carried out by his supporters. last january, brazil's prosecutor says that also narrow incited the violence in an effort to

reject the results of the presidential election. often aro, travel to day to police headquarters and brazil, jo. he did not an sir. questions from reporters of the attacks followed bull scenarios defeat in last year's presidential election. also, nora was in the us state of florida at the time he has not publicly conceded losing the election to louise and oscio lula da silva. many of both scenarios, supporters believe the election was rid of a more. am janelle, by correspondence m cal we he joins me now from sal palo in brazil. sh sab variables. and ours says that he had nothing to do with the violence there in brazil. yet, what about the court of public opinion? i mean, how credible is his story in the eyes of the public? well, i mean, that's a very, very interesting question. why? because you know, brazil going through the kind of political polarization where it is at the moment.

support the blue, the silver, the current president would say that she had everything to do with the violence that happened on january the 8th in the capital present, which resulted in the congressional building. the supreme court being read bad vandalized right, much worse than january. the 6th in the united states. no cause on the other hand, what support the valuable in our own? who say that no, you got nothing to do there. this is all a plot. you know, he's supportive, he's most radical. the claim that this is a plot invented by lulu workers party and that actually the people that invaded the building were members viewed as workers policy that were trying to credit essentially create a false flag operation to justify the repair even crackdown. you know, that, you know, for most not as much brighter who supports his belief. right? yeah, i mean, you know, the, the after taishan that he would,

that he posted what was seem to be an encouraging instagram post to grand host encouraging the violent. and he's expectation that he was on morphine at the time. and that's why he posted the and, you know, withdrew it off with regardless pat daroolen quite a few kind of snakes of disbelief here in brazil. what can have a potion i'll reward to be convicted. i mean, could this former brazilian president, could he actually go to prison? i mean, he's read the brazilian presidents to go to prison and to stay in prison. right. i mean, they have been, if you gave them reason id boss. the overall was some sure here is that this case isn't really going to go very far basically because it's very difficult to really connect the dots really directly into both in a row. that's all that's all finally in any way. what's more likely that one in one

of the other cases of which there are at least 16 altogether. again, both nora regarding online information during the pandemic. it understood that there is quite a quite chance of him being stripped of his political rights. who should mean that he wouldn't be able to run for public office in brazil for years? and that already that essentially that his party already caught a way not who could like take his place when the next presidential elections are held in 2026. right? so that's for the most likely scenario that universe in our is referred to as the brazilian donald trump. i mean, this case certainly has parallel to the january 6 insurrection of the u. s. capital, is it being reported that way in brazil? yeah, i mean there's, yeah, yeah, there's lots of para knows. yeah. and also with other kind of, you know, leaders with authority area meetings across the world are, was always a, you know,

very close a big fan of like victo, albany hungry and other kind of like will sorts harry in illegal democracy as the leaders. so. so yeah, like it's, it's definitely, it's definitely been reported in a similar, similar way that the general uprisings in the, in the united states were reported. and, you know, for the record things are much worse here in brazil than they were in the united states. why they genuinely was like an attempt to take power here or 2222. so that was a genuine coincidence. essentially one that didn't work out in the end. but yet it was, it was, it was certainly a very serious situation. let me ask you, sam, before we go to something completely different in this with the current president, president lula, brazil under his leadership. is that good news for china and russia?

not so good news for ukraine in the united states. i mean, it's an interesting question. it's, i mean like china is a huge trading partner in brazil. biggest trading paul has been for a long time. and you know, brazil has a stones of non alignment and always has had 3 votes in our presidency through the true balloon presidency through pretty much brazil. history of foreign policy is not alignment why brazil had like a significant trade relationship with, with russia to because if i had lots of russian, bertha lies that he needs for you to activate this account for a quarter of brazil gdp and trying to reach the principal buyer of that, there was also a method training wardrobe, the united states european union. and what we're seeing here, i think more in terms of, you know, obviously a few of the statements have offended the ukrainian. right. and so what we're

really seeing here is a typical kind of non aligned policy from the global in which you basically play the major power to getting each other. and i think that's what this is really about here in the actions speak louder than words and reduce has condemned, you know, the ukrainian or russian invasion of ukraine, united nations. while there have been a few comments by president luna here. and there that had been that had cause defense, grain and understand, we saw it, but again, this is a typically not a line policy from the global south, brazil, as possible. journalist sam kelly, sam, we appreciate your time in your reporting tonight. thank you. thanks so much. good . ah. and finally tonight it is late april, but in many parts of spain it feels light. late july, temperatures are expected this week to reach 39 degrees celsius. that's 86 degrees fahrenheit. this early heat wave comes in spain is already in the 3rd year of below

average rainfall. water levels in many rivers are at record lows, so low that local authorities have even been rescuing the fish. they transported fish from this river in ne spain to a nearby river that has a higher water level. spanish meteorologists are blaming this extreme early hot weather on climate change. while the day is almost done, the conversation continues on wind. you'll find it on twitter either w news. you can follow me on twitter at rent. gov tv and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody. thank

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